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    Angry Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Here are better pictures of his legs. The other front doesn't look so bad so I didn't add a pic of it. He didn't seem to have any problem with me stretching his legs out either, so I don't believe there's any pain.
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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyPancake View Post
    We would like to know that a rehabber could take him in the case things get to be too much for us. If you know of someone close by that we could get in contact when the time comes, that would be great!
    I was going back to look over your thread and saw this. I am an hour and half from you, could take him. I very much would like my vet to look him over and check out those bumps.
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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    I was re-reading this thread myself and the questions that were asked about being a dwarf. When I got my dwarf his eyes were already open. My first indication that he was different was when he just wouldn't gain weight and grow like I knew he should. We don't have red squirrels in Florida, so that was ruled out.

    I think once your guys eyes are open and ears stand up it might be more obvious if he's a dwarf grey or red squirrel. Dwarf squirrels have very large eyes for their faces. The ears sit lower on the head and the legs are shorter. The fact that he has some unusual bumps on his legs, near his knees, might be significant because dwarf squirrels joints don't connect properly. An X-ray can determine whether he is a dwarf or not.

    If you can work something out with Redwuff to get the baby to her that would be awesome. She has tons of experience with squirrels and even dwarf squirrels!

    I'm very curious to find out what may be going on with your little guy.

    I've attached my dwarf's X-rays for reference. You might be able to see how his knee sits perpendicular to his leg bones.
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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Thanks for all the help guys! I actually work once a month at a vet's office out of town with some of my old clients. I will ask the vets there if they will be willing to do some xrays on him when I head up there and if they aren't willing, I'll definitely check out that vet you recommend!
    I thought it was odd that he's not furring up as quick as most. I wonder if this could be a developmental thing since he's been raised by people since the very beginning?
    Thanks for all the help guys!

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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Thanks for the additional pix.

    Based on the color of his tail I don't think this is a Red Squirrel, I'm no expert, but I do have 8 eyes just opened Reds and their tails are very red.

    Glad he doesn't have bumps on his head The ones on his hinds, I've seen it with one of my squirrels as has Sammysmom and a few other people in other groups. We treated with Clindamycin and the bumps did get smaller and are almost gone on our babies. Neither had front leg issues, so not sure what, if anything is going on with your babies fronts. Redwuff is a good rehabber you might want to take her up on her offer to rehab this baby. If you want to rehab squirrels we can find others for you, I just wouldn't recommend something like this baby as your first rehab.

    If you can put him on the Clindamycin that would be great, do you have that antibiotic? if you don't can you get it?

    As for the water, how often are you feeding and how much is he getting each feeding? If you're doing it all right and you've had him more than 2 or 3 days he shouldn't be dehydrated anymore. Can you take a video of you pinching the skin?
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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    I’m feeding babies and I took a picture of a 5 week olds leg. You can see it bends out a bit so I’m not sure if your baby’s legs are that odd. It’s hard to tell in pictures sometimes this is the right front


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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Thanks everyone!! Redwuff and I are working on things now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyPancake View Post
    Thanks everyone!! Redwuff and I are working on things now!!
    Well keep us posted so we know how it all turns out.
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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Petey has a vet appt scheduled for Tues. We can see what is going on with those bones of his. I can’t wait to meet the little guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by redwuff View Post
    Petey has a vet appt scheduled for Tues. We can see what is going on with those bones of his. I can’t wait to meet the little guy
    I can only imagine what these xrays are gonna look like! Looking forward to hearing what the vet has to say!!

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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    What formula is Petey being fed?
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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Quote Originally Posted by redwuff View Post
    What formula is Petey being fed?
    Esbilac. 2 parts water to 1 part formula

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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Here's some updated pictures of Petey from last night. His little teethers popped through and he had a little blood in his mouth last night but all is well this morning with that.
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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyPancake View Post
    I thought it was odd that he's not furring up as quick as most. I wonder if this could be a developmental thing since he's been raised by people since the very beginning?
    Thanks for all the help guys!
    Him being raised from a very early age should not make difference as long as his formula meets his nutritional needs.
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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    He is so cute! What is his weight today. He is now 4 weeks old?

    Thanks for the pictures
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    Quote Originally Posted by redwuff View Post
    He is so cute! What is his weight today. He is now 4 weeks old?

    Thanks for the pictures
    Yep! He's 4 weeks old as of Sunday-ish. We found him 4 weeks ago yesterday.

    I'm currently at work, and usually weigh him at lunch time. So when I head home for lunch, I'll be able to update everyone on that!

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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    Weighed 41g at lunchtime today

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcassidy View Post
    I'm not sure if it is a red squirrel though.

    His weight, hydration look great so good job
    Why kcassidy you are so right. Little PeteyPancake is a:





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    Quote Originally Posted by redwuff View Post
    Why kcassidy you are so right. Little PeteyPancake is a:





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    Can their tails be solid grey at this age? That's the only color difference I see! He has those little red paws and all!

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    Default Re: 3 week old--- Help Needed: back leg issues

    We did a formula change as recom by redwuff and he's up to 48g this morning and his hydration is looking so much better!!!!

    Looking forward to the vet appt Tuesday to figure out what's going on with these legs of his

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