White sore in mouth

[LaShae1995]

Hey yall so I hadn't started the treatment yet becuase I was trying to find the best probiotic and stuff yall mentioned. I also had some family emergencies to come up. Anyways I found this could this help?

I can probaly score a sample pack from my vet.

[LaShae1995]

Is there anything similar to.....Vitality Science Pet Probiotic for Cats & Dogs | Pet Flora - Great for Diarrhea, Vomiting, Gas, Skin Conditions - Additive Free (50 Caps).... but cheaper I don't really have much money. In meantime I'll see if my dad still had any Probiotic I can use.

[LaShae1995]

Can this work? And if so do I still need pet floral?

Called Florajen acidophilus probiotic supplements ***

Or Florajein Digestion gor antibiotics side effects and potent probiotic benefits multicultre supplement

I used the one with the **** beside it mixed with water and a tiny like smallest bit of honey starting Dec 17 23 at 2 34 am these are for humans


Hope this all makes sense it's late and I'm struggling typing this and trying to get all info correct.

[LaShae1995]

Can she have coconut chucks I saw it had antifungal properties.

Also I seen this post....

https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/...Won-t-eat-Help!

This isn't what hers look likes. Hers is more of the sides of her cheecks kindof looks like a tendon or something to me... maybe it's just me.. but like the skin goes over it and you can move the skin back like her skin is thin there if that makes sense.. I could try to upload a video on YouTube and post a link tommorow? Idk it's just very weird to me. I THINK I saw white dots if so veryyyy small in the back of her mouth on inside of her cheeks but let me tell you it's a STRUGGLE to open a squirrels mouth and take a video all at the same time and almost worst if you have help from someone she isn't fond of.

I'll do this treatment plan like yall recommended.. I'm using human probiotic listed up above for now and the baking soda ill get yougurt Tuesday. It isn't on her tongue at all it looks very cute and pink and fat lol .very hard to look in her mouth for her fat tongue 👅

Either way like I said it's like 3 am here I'm so tired I just hope this makes sense it worries me to death about her being any kind of sick but especially thrush or something like that. Thanks guys yall r the best

God Bless Merry Early Christmas

[Charley Chuckles]

Occasionally I will give mine some fresh coconut chunks, not a lot just as a treat.

[Diggie's Friend]

Not saying there that there isn't available a less expensive (SBO) probiotic with prebiotic capsule source like, "Pet Flora" which doesn't include (FOS), and/or various other additives (flavorings, herbs, vegetables etc.); yet so far I haven't found one.

"Pet Flora", does though offer a smaller bottle that is lower in price.

https://vitalityscience.com/product/...SABEgK4vvD_BwE

[LaShae1995]

Could I use the human probiotic I had listed instead?

[LaShae1995]

Ok so I got the meds today and I'm getting the scales hopefully tommorow I have the info I need to start her treatment thx guys

[LaShae1995]

So I noticed she also has a yeast? Infection.. her private area had white nasty stuff and swelled really big. I was told this was probaly all connected and the meds should help. Just wanted to add this tiny bit of info.

[Diggie's Friend]

It's breeding season, when female squirrels cared for in captivity are the most susceptible to developing yeast infections. This due in great part from the lack of natural soil-based organisms (SBO) healthy (biotics) , which squirrels obtain by pulling up grass tufts that they flip over to chew on the soil that surrounds the roots of grasses (geophagy). I've seen this myself with the female we raised soon after her release into our yard; as she stopped and began to pull up tufts of grass which initially she used her teeth to grip a couple of chews, but quickly flipped over to chew on the soil that surrounded the roots. A fellow member in Texas also shared with me they have seen the same thing with gray squirrels in their yard engage in over the warmer months of the year.

In captivity though, it isn't optimal to use a wild source that may be contaminated with roundworms, and/or other endoparasites from other animals have contaminated the soil. In place of a wild source of (SB0), a clean source that includes diverse forms of (SB0) has been found to best support the immune system of pets be they domestic or wilds. This not with the sugar forms of prebiotics, like (FOS) which are commonly included with dairy based probiotics, suitable for wild species that stop consuming milk at weaning. The other reason is explained here below in this quote.:

Antibiotic treatment for bacterial infections can produce yeast infections. Yeast infections due to antibiotic treatment are caused by the destruction of good and bad bacteria, and disrupts the vaginal flora.

The only other source I know of which is recommended by veterinarians to address yeast infections in pets, which just one of the key forms noted to target for dogs, is also contains in, "Pet Flora" by, "Vitality Science" along with many more. This important for the immune system functions best with the balance that is promoted by various forms rather than just one form.

Interestingly, there is another source of pretty much the same complement of forms with the same name, yet from a different company. That source though is higher in dosage and harder to reduce; whereas the source from Vitality Science is lower.

Another feature of both sources is that they have no flavoring, as to not be carnivore species, as most cat and dog probiotic sources are that contain flavor and other filler additives.

In my own history of supporting tree squirrels in the past, and others more recently also, it was Pet Flora and another similar source available in the UK. that stopped the yeast infection, not AB which in the case of my girl many years back, who was treated each time she went into heat due to the development of what you describe as sticky urine, which is in fact a discharge because of lack of the healthy bacteria that makes up oveabout 80 % of the whole body's immune system for weaned juveniles and adult tree squirrels.

[Charley Chuckles]

It's breeding season, when female squirrels cared for in captivity are the most susceptible to developing yeast infections. This due in great part from the lack of natural soil-based organisms (SBO) healthy (biotics) , which squirrels obtain by pulling up grass tufts that they flip over to chew on the soil that surrounds the roots of grasses (geophagy). I've seen this myself with the female we raised soon after her release into our yard; as she stopped and began to pull up tufts of grass which initially she used her teeth to grip a couple of chews, but quickly flipped over to chew on the soil that surrounded the roots. A fellow member in Texas also shared with me they have seen the same thing with gray squirrels in their yard engage in over the warmer months of the year.

In captivity though, it isn't optimal to use a wild source that may be contaminated with roundworms, and/or other endoparasites from other animals have contaminated the soil. In place of a wild source of (SB0), a clean source that includes diverse forms of (SB0) has been found to best support the immune system of pets be they domestic or wilds. This not with the sugar forms of prebiotics, like (FOS) which are commonly included with dairy based probiotics, suitable for wild species that stop consuming milk at weaning. The other reason is explained here below in this quote.:



The only other source I know of which is recommended by veterinarians to address yeast infections in pets, which just one of the key forms noted to target for dogs, is also contains in, "Pet Flora" by, "Vitality Science" along with many more. This important for the immune system functions best with the balance that is promoted by various forms rather than just one form.

Interestingly, there is another source of pretty much the same complement of forms with the same name, yet from a different company. That source though is higher in dosage and harder to reduce; whereas the source from Vitality Science is lower.

Another feature of both sources is that they have no flavoring, as to not be carnivore species, as most cat and dog probiotic sources are that contain flavor and other filler additives.

In my own history of supporting tree squirrels in the past, and others more recently also, it was Pet Flora and another similar source available in the UK. that stopped the yeast infection, not AB which in the case of my girl many years back, who was treated each time she went into heat due to the development of what you describe as sticky urine, which is in fact a discharge because of lack of the healthy bacteria that makes up oveabout 80 % of the whole body's immune system for weaned juveniles and adult tree squirrels.

Just a question...can bene-bac be used for a good probiotic/Flora? If so how often?

[LaShae1995]

It's breeding season, when female squirrels cared for in captivity are the most susceptible to developing yeast infections. This due in great part from the lack of natural soil-based organisms (SBO) healthy (biotics) , which squirrels obtain by pulling up grass tufts that they flip over to chew on the soil that surrounds the roots of grasses (geophagy). I've seen this myself with the female we raised soon after her release into our yard; as she stopped and began to pull up tufts of grass which initially she used her teeth to grip a couple of chews, but quickly flipped over to chew on the soil that surrounded the roots. A fellow member in Texas also shared with me they have seen the same thing with gray squirrels in their yard engage in over the warmer months of the year.
In captivity though, it isn't optimal to use a wild source that may be contaminated with roundworms, and/or other endoparasites from other animals have contaminated the soil. In place of a wild source of (SB0), a clean source that includes diverse forms of (SB0) has been found to best support the immune system of pets be they domestic or wilds. This not with the sugar forms of prebiotics, like (FOS) which are commonly included with dairy based probiotics, suitable for wild species that stop consuming milk at weaning. The other reason is explained here below in this quote.:



The only other source I know of which is recommended by veterinarians to address yeast infections in pets, which just one of the key forms noted to target for dogs, is also contains in, "Pet Flora" by, "Vitality Science" along with many more. This important for the immune system functions best with the balance that is promoted by various forms rather than just one form.

Interestingly, there is another source of pretty much the same complement of forms with the same name, yet from a different company. That source though is higher in dosage and harder to reduce; whereas the source from Vitality Science is lower.

Another feature of both sources is that they have no flavoring, as to not be carnivore species, as most cat and dog probiotic sources are that contain flavor and other filler additives.

In my own history of supporting tree squirrels in the past, and others more recently also, it was Pet Flora and another similar source available in the UK. that stopped the yeast infection, not AB which in the case of my girl many years back, who was treated each time she went into heat due to the development of what you describe as sticky urine, which is in fact a discharge because of lack of the healthy bacteria that makes up oveabout 80 % of the whole body's immune system for weaned juveniles and adult tree squirrels.

Wowwwww you must know your stuff 😳 this makes sense becuase she was in heat prior to the problems. So another words I need to get the pet floral prebiotic and just give to her daily?? Or at least when she's in heat?? And that should help to prevent this from happening again?

[Diggie's Friend]

Recently, "Benebac" added just a couple of the soil based probiotics to its primarily lactobacillus dairy probiotic forms that comprise the lion's share of their formula. Yet the probiotic is the fruit sugar source of (FOS) sugar source, which makes it at odds for knocking out resistant forms of bacteria and yeast infections.

There was a member in another Country, that used a similar soil-based probiotic formula to that of, "Vitality Science", because it wasn't available where they live. They wrote me a follow up, saying that the (SBO) source they thought to try first, knocked out the yeast infection, which after didn't return. The vet address I came across a few years back, wrote, that when it came to, 'resistant forms of bacteria', soil based probiotic was the most effective.

(PYC) paired with probiotics, was reported in a science journal to have a synergistic effect that worked with the immune system (which about 80 % is comprised of the bacterial biome in the gut) rather than against it, which can be seen in both, 'autoimmune diseases' and viruses, that turn the body's immune system against itself and prolonged or over use of AB that destroy both the good and bad forms of bacteria, thus weakening the the body's immune system, that can have a blow back effect with bacterial regrowth.

The small bottle with the lower count of capsules is lower in cost, yet the higher count comes at a reduced cost per capsule by comparison.

[Charley Chuckles]

Recently, "Benebac" added just a couple of the soil based probiotics to its primarily lactobacillus dairy probiotic forms that comprise the lion's share of their formula. Yet the probiotic is the fruit sugar source of (FOS) sugar source, which makes it at odds for knocking out resistant forms of bacteria and yeast infections.

There was a member in another Country, that used a similar soil-based probiotic formula to that of, "Vitality Science", because it wasn't available where they live. They wrote me a follow up, saying that the (SBO) source they thought to try first, knocked out the yeast infection, which after didn't return. The vet address I came across a few years back, wrote, that when it came to, 'resistant forms of bacteria', soil based probiotic was the most effective.

(PYC) paired with probiotics, was reported in a science journal to have a synergistic effect that worked with the immune system (which about 80 % is comprised of the bacterial biome in the gut) rather than against it, which can be seen in both, 'autoimmune diseases' and viruses, that turn the body's immune system against itself and prolonged or over use of AB that destroy both the good and bad forms of bacteria, thus weakening the the body's immune system, that can have a blow back effect with bacterial regrowth.

The small bottle with the lower count of capsules is lower in cost, yet the higher count comes at a reduced cost per capsule by comparison.

Just a quick question...can I give bene-bac Plus occasionally to just help the gut in a squirrel even a male nothing to do with being in heat? I just thought it would be beneficial 🤔

[LaShae1995]

Sandy is on Nystatin for her thrush and yeast and I was wondering how long should she take it for. She takes it 4 times a day every 6 hrs. Thanks

[LaShae1995]

I noticed she had some sores forming on her lips at the start of the nystatin. Now they are pretty noticeable when I check her mouth. She has been on the meds since Dec 20 I am 95% sure. When should she start to show signs of healing? The sores I think we're there forming before she started the meds. Maybe at two weeks they should look better? I'll try to upload some pictures.

[LaShae1995]

Pictures of mouth... look at the lips and cheeks

[LaShae1995]

I had been washing her dishes with dish liquid and cleaning her cage everyday but my mother said you need to use boiling water and a new dish through out the day so I'm gonna try that too.

[CritterMom]

Am I nuts or does it look like the white stuff has really diminished substantially from your earlier pics?

[LaShae1995]

Am I nuts or does it look like the white stuff has really diminished substantially from your earlier pics?

I'll try to put a college together showing before and now tonight.