My little squeaky needs help

[Bean]

Hello, I am new here...but I need help. My squirrels name is squeaky, he is 3 years old, and recently over the past month he has been sick..I noticed his teeth were growing backwards and were so far back they were in his throat, I didn't realize cuz he is hard to see from being so skittish..I took him into the vet thinking he had pseudo odontoma on his top teeth..his x rays showed he has 1 small one starting on 1 bottom tooth and the tops are fine, but are now thick and growing faster and the bottoms are different length. I had them trimmed 2 times now. While getting x rays I had them x ray his whole body and their realized he had a chest contusion and so he was on antibiotics to help, which is did. He quit sneezing, and his milky eyes went away and I had him resting in a smaller cage for a week. He went for update x rays yesterday and the vet isn't sure what it is...but he has an abnormality in his chest, and he thinks it may be an abnormal heart. He doesn't know a lot about squirrels so he was going to look into their anatomy more and get back to me...but my baby is sneezing a lot again, and his 1 eye keeps going milky like he's in pain. I don't know what to do... I have already spent about $1000 in vet bills trying to figure it out and living in Canada, vets don't know anything about them and this vet is the only guy who was willing to help me. But he needs help cuz he doesn't know much about them. I'm desperate, I love squeaky with all my heart and I'm worried about him. Every morning I come in his room, and he's standing on his tree and he's breathing very wierd. Like big movements, and then goes away...I'm not sure if he's just excited for a minit cuz I just walked in and he's getting ready to go crazy for his food, but it makes me scared. I'm trying to stay positive, and I'm trying to help him as much as I can. I hope I can afford all that it brings me cuz I would pay whatever to save my baby. Please help. What does my baby need...he was just on trimthoprim and metacam, and it cleared his lung but his symptoms are still there

[SamtheSquirrel2018]

Hi Bean & Squeaky:
I have been out of the Country on a vacation and have had little contact with TSB or anyone else for that matter as I have very limited internet access until I return home in a couple of days. That being said, I read your post and wanted to make some comments and suggestions. I don't know if the internet service will be maintained long enough to get my post made but I'll try as best I can.

Questions with comments:
1) When did Squeaky get his first x-ray studies performed?
2) Was the film that you posted showing the chest and the skull among the studies that were performed at first or was this film obtained on 5/5/2023 when the Discharge Summary and "discharge" Chest x-ray films were obtained?
3) Were any other skull films obtained other than the single view that was taken either Ventro-Dorsally or Dorso-Ventrally (top to bottom or bottom to top-you can't tell by looking because the x-ray beam passes throught the same areas with both) such as lateral views (x-ray films taken directly from the side)? At least both of these views are essential for adequately evaluating for odontomas and for most other radiographically visible problems as well!
4) Disclaimer: I am not a Vet nor am I a radiologist (a specialist in interpreting x-ray studies). I will give my opinion however but it must recognized that this is only my opinion! Moving on; while looking at the Discharge Summary from 5/5/2023 that has Chest x-ray (CXR) films pasted to it; there is mention of "the lungs having cleared themselves up" but the "major abnormality in the chest is still there." I am not certain as to what the Vet has referring to as this "major abnormality" but it appears from it says beyond that on the Discharge Summary that they believe it may be the heart. This to me implies that the Vet is referring to the white centrally located, broad density with a blunt L-shape pointed leftward. This is the Heart "shadow" and the upper part of that is what is called the mediastinum which contains some major blood vessels and other "stuff" (to use a medical term!). This Heart "shadow" does appear at first glance to be quite wide in its relation to the lateral width (side to side dimension) of the chest but it is essential to recognize that unlike primates such as monkeys and humans where the broadest dimension of the chest is indeed the lateral dimension; Squirrels and most quadrupeds (those that walking on four legs) have there broadest chest dimension in Ventrodorsal line (from bottom to top) and not from side to side! The heart shadow appears to me to be relatively unremarkable and normal (but again, I am not a radiologist or Vet.
5) you mentioned that you had asked that an x-ray study of the whole body be obtained and with this a "chest contusion" was somehow identified. A contusion is essentially a bruise and is a mechanism of injury rather than necessarily the injury itself. For instance, being his in the head by brick is also a contusion but but whith that particular injury there may be a skull fracture, bleeding in the brain, a laceration, etc. By looking at a CXR it may be able under certain situations especially where the history is known to surmise that a contusion occurred but this "diagnosis" does not define or imply what the actual extent of injury might be. What in particular did the Vet see on the film that suggested a contusion? (on this CXR. my feeble eyes and Squirrel Block sized brain do not see an fractures, abnormal fluid accumulations or air in the chest where it shouldn't be (called a pneumothorax). It may be very important to know specifically what the abnormality was that was seen!
6) In regard to the "milky eye;" my concern about this is always that any milky fluid may actually be pus or when from the eyes; be pus mixed with tears. When a Squirrel has signs of breathing problems it certainly could be an Upper Respiratory Tract Infection, allergy, pneumonia and many other possibilities but, just you recognized; one of the very common culprits for breathing issues with Rodents has to do with dental problems and among those, odontoma is extremely common. Squirrel cannot easily change from their normal nose breathing to mouth breathing and any mouth breathing by a Squirrel must be considered abnormal and indicative of an evaluation.

Please describe what has actually been going on with Squeaky other then the milky eye that has seem abnormal or unusual?

7) It may be that Squeaky does have an odontoma or dental abscess. Antibiotics will do nothing for an odontoma and surgery is what is required BUT if there is an infection still going on in the root regions of a tooth or teeth, further antibiotics my be beneficial in that they may be able to cure an infection and help prevent spread of an infection IF there is still infection remaining. Even if antibiotics are not going to be restarted at this time, I would recommend trying to obtain antibiotics to keep in reserve. One of the antibiotics that I would consider among the best for a dental infection would Amoxicillin plus Clavulate (this is a combination medication. A veterinary brand is Clavamox and a Human brand is Augmentin but it is available as a generic). Please post whatever antibiotics you may have available and the strength of the particular tablets, powder or capsules you have.

I just wanted to get as much of my concerns expressed in this post as I am not sure how long my internet access with persists. I'll check back as I am able and there are many others on TSB who can help.

Regards,
SamtheSquirrel

[Bean]

Hi Bean & Squeaky:
I have been out of the Country on a vacation and have had little contact with TSB or anyone else for that matter as I have very limited internet access until I return home in a couple of days. That being said, I read your post and wanted to make some comments and suggestions. I don't know if the internet service will be maintained long enough to get my post made but I'll try as best I can.

Questions with comments:
1) When did Squeaky get his first x-ray studies performed?
2) Was the film that you posted showing the chest and the skull among the studies that were performed at first or was this film obtained on 5/5/2023 when the Discharge Summary and "discharge" Chest x-ray films were obtained?
3) Were any other skull films obtained other than the single view that was taken either Ventro-Dorsally or Dorso-Ventrally (top to bottom or bottom to top-you can't tell by looking because the x-ray beam passes throught the same areas with both) such as lateral views (x-ray films taken directly from the side)? At least both of these views are essential for adequately evaluating for odontomas and for most other radiographically visible problems as well!
4) Disclaimer: I am not a Vet nor am I a radiologist (a specialist in interpreting x-ray studies). I will give my opinion however but it must recognized that this is only my opinion! Moving on; while looking at the Discharge Summary from 5/5/2023 that has Chest x-ray (CXR) films pasted to it; there is mention of "the lungs having cleared themselves up" but the "major abnormality in the chest is still there." I am not certain as to what the Vet has referring to as this "major abnormality" but it appears from it says beyond that on the Discharge Summary that they believe it may be the heart. This to me implies that the Vet is referring to the white centrally located, broad density with a blunt L-shape pointed leftward. This is the Heart "shadow" and the upper part of that is what is called the mediastinum which contains some major blood vessels and other "stuff" (to use a medical term!). This Heart "shadow" does appear at first glance to be quite wide in its relation to the lateral width (side to side dimension) of the chest but it is essential to recognize that unlike primates such as monkeys and humans where the broadest dimension of the chest is indeed the lateral dimension; Squirrels and most quadrupeds (those that walking on four legs) have there broadest chest dimension in Ventrodorsal line (from bottom to top) and not from side to side! The heart shadow appears to me to be relatively unremarkable and normal (but again, I am not a radiologist or Vet.
5) you mentioned that you had asked that an x-ray study of the whole body be obtained and with this a "chest contusion" was somehow identified. A contusion is essentially a bruise and is a mechanism of injury rather than necessarily the injury itself. For instance, being his in the head by brick is also a contusion but but whith that particular injury there may be a skull fracture, bleeding in the brain, a laceration, etc. By looking at a CXR it may be able under certain situations especially where the history is known to surmise that a contusion occurred but this "diagnosis" does not define or imply what the actual extent of injury might be. What in particular did the Vet see on the film that suggested a contusion? (on this CXR. my feeble eyes and Squirrel Block sized brain do not see an fractures, abnormal fluid accumulations or air in the chest where it shouldn't be (called a pneumothorax). It may be very important to know specifically what the abnormality was that was seen!
6) In regard to the "milky eye;" my concern about this is always that any milky fluid may actually be pus or when from the eyes; be pus mixed with tears. When a Squirrel has signs of breathing problems it certainly could be an Upper Respiratory Tract Infection, allergy, pneumonia and many other possibilities but, just you recognized; one of the very common culprits for breathing issues with Rodents has to do with dental problems and among those, odontoma is extremely common. Squirrel cannot easily change from their normal nose breathing to mouth breathing and any mouth breathing by a Squirrel must be considered abnormal and indicative of an evaluation.

Please describe what has actually been going on with Squeaky other then the milky eye that has seem abnormal or unusual?

7) It may be that Squeaky does have an odontoma or dental abscess. Antibiotics will do nothing for an odontoma and surgery is what is required BUT if there is an infection still going on in the root regions of a tooth or teeth, further antibiotics my be beneficial in that they may be able to cure an infection and help prevent spread of an infection IF there is still infection remaining. Even if antibiotics are not going to be restarted at this time, I would recommend trying to obtain antibiotics to keep in reserve. One of the antibiotics that I would consider among the best for a dental infection would Amoxicillin plus Clavulate (this is a combination medication. A veterinary brand is Clavamox and a Human brand is Augmentin but it is available as a generic). Please post whatever antibiotics you may have available and the strength of the particular tablets, powder or capsules you have.

I just wanted to get as much of my concerns expressed in this post as I am not sure how long my internet access with persists. I'll check back as I am able and there are many others on TSB who can help.

Regards,
SamtheSquirrel

Thank you so much for your message and in great detail!

Ok so I took squeaky in on April 25 to have his 1stcx rays done. he had told me that he was concerned because it seemed to have a chest contusion as tho he fell and hurt himself or had pneumonia, he said his lungs seemed to be full of fluid. They told me the little white dots in the lung area was the bad part, but when I took him back yesterday on the 5th, it was mostly cleared up. And he was doing so much better. But recently I noticed he seems like he is breathing a little wierd and sneezing and his one eye keeps showing milkiness..he seemed better when in his small enclosure, maybe because he was rested and not running and jumping around cuz his big enclosure is huge..I don't hear his breathing like I did before, like he was having a hard time, he got to the point he was literally throwing snot from his nose when sneezing, and he sounded very nasally when breathing, and one morning I came in and he was open mouth gasping. So that is when I took him in for the 1st x rays, I was worried he needed odontoma surgery and needed it now! Which also is hard because my vet has never done that surgery, no one around this area has at all. But he was going to try. Until we looked at the x rays. I will share them, we did get a few of his skull which showed his top teeth were ok, his one bottom tooth appeared to have a small odontoma starting and his bottom teeth kind of grow different lengths, it looks like one is broken off and it's causing his top teeth to grow fast. I then sent his x rays to Dr peters in the USA and he said his x rays were great, no odontoma, but does appear to have one on the bottom but generally leave those ones alone and are very difficult to remove. He told me to continue on the medicine and see what happens from there about the lung...he was on 0.14 ml of trimethoprim every 12 hours, and then 0.35ml of metacam every 24 hours. I had him on the metacam for 8 days and the trimethoprim for 10 days. But he did waste a couple times of it cuz he didn't like the taste so I had to be creative to get it to him. He got noticably better in that time. Sneezing stopped, milky eyes went away, and he just overall looked better. But now seeming to go back the opposite again. The milky eye isn't as bad, but it is back a bit. And the sneezing is back. He thinks that the large white thing in the center and in the l shape to the side is his heart and thinks it is abnormal, but said it could also be his anatomy, cuz he doesn't know much about squirrels.im not sure how to tell the lungs or the heart, to know if this looks normal or not. But I'm not sure what is causing him to appear sick. I just want my little guy to be healthy, he did so great up until about the beginning of April this year, which is why we suspected odontoma, cuz his teeth grew very thick, hard and curved inward. But something else must be causing his sickness. I have also attached the summary from his 1st x rays and what the Dr said about it.

[Bean]

Thank you so much for your message and in great detail!

Ok so I took squeaky in on April 25 to have his 1stcx rays done. he had told me that he was concerned because it seemed to have a chest contusion as tho he fell and hurt himself or had pneumonia, he said his lungs seemed to be full of fluid. They told me the little white dots in the lung area was the bad part, but when I took him back yesterday on the 5th, it was mostly cleared up. And he was doing so much better. But recently I noticed he seems like he is breathing a little wierd and sneezing and his one eye keeps showing milkiness..he seemed better when in his small enclosure, maybe because he was rested and not running and jumping around cuz his big enclosure is huge..I don't hear his breathing like I did before, like he was having a hard time, he got to the point he was literally throwing snot from his nose when sneezing, and he sounded very nasally when breathing, and one morning I came in and he was open mouth gasping. So that is when I took him in for the 1st x rays, I was worried he needed odontoma surgery and needed it now! Which also is hard because my vet has never done that surgery, no one around this area has at all. But he was going to try. Until we looked at the x rays. I will share them, we did get a few of his skull which showed his top teeth were ok, his one bottom tooth appeared to have a small odontoma starting and his bottom teeth kind of grow different lengths, it looks like one is broken off and it's causing his top teeth to grow fast. I then sent his x rays to Dr peters in the USA and he said his x rays were great, no odontoma, but does appear to have one on the bottom but generally leave those ones alone and are very difficult to remove. He told me to continue on the medicine and see what happens from there about the lung...he was on 0.14 ml of trimethoprim every 12 hours, and then 0.35ml of metacam every 24 hours. I had him on the metacam for 8 days and the trimethoprim for 10 days. But he did waste a couple times of it cuz he didn't like the taste so I had to be creative to get it to him. He got noticably better in that time. Sneezing stopped, milky eyes went away, and he just overall looked better. But now seeming to go back the opposite again. The milky eye isn't as bad, but it is back a bit. And the sneezing is back. He thinks that the large white thing in the center and in the l shape to the side is his heart and thinks it is abnormal, but said it could also be his anatomy, cuz he doesn't know much about squirrels.im not sure how to tell the lungs or the heart, to know if this looks normal or not. But I'm not sure what is causing him to appear sick. I just want my little guy to be healthy, he did so great up until about the beginning of April this year, which is why we suspected odontoma, cuz his teeth grew very thick, hard and curved inward. But something else must be causing his sickness. I have also attached the summary from his 1st x rays and what the Dr said about it.

I don't have any medications right now aside from what was prescribed to him. I'm not sure I could get the ones I mentioned, if they need to be prescribed or anything or if they can just be grabbed over the counter. But from what my vet said and the vet I showed his x rays to, they both said he appears to not have infection in his teeth. Just a small odontoma growing on one bottomed tooth which won't affect his breathing. But the chest contusion he was saying was the center white part that goes off to the side, I am pretty sure ..but then when I took him for updated x rays, the other doctor or receptionist came out and told me that the issue in his lung was the little white specs showing in his lung on the x ray but the new x rays it was cleared up mostly and a lot better. That is what I got from it..but again, he doesn't know squirrel anatomy so he wanted to look into it cuz he wasn't sure if it was normal. I'm worried he may have a heart problem or something wrong inside. And nobody is able to figure it out. And then I am told in order to know for sure he may need further diagnostic and cuz he is so little, it would be hard to do. I don't know what else to do or how to tell exactly what it is that is wrong with him. I was told milky tears means hes in pain. The metacam really helped with that, it all cleared up but now it's back again. And I just want to bunch of people's opinions to figure out what it is. Maybe he does have some sort of a cold, I'm not sure if that is a thing. But maybe his lungs or heart or whatever is causing him to sneeze a bunch and have pain. I feel bad for the little guy. He still plays and acts normal, but some days he just breathes wierd it looks like or he just hides in his bed

[Bean]

Hi Bean & Squeaky:
I have been out of the Country on a vacation and have had little contact with TSB or anyone else for that matter as I have very limited internet access until I return home in a couple of days. That being said, I read your post and wanted to make some comments and suggestions. I don't know if the internet service will be maintained long enough to get my post made but I'll try as best I can.

Questions with comments:
1) When did Squeaky get his first x-ray studies performed?
2) Was the film that you posted showing the chest and the skull among the studies that were performed at first or was this film obtained on 5/5/2023 when the Discharge Summary and "discharge" Chest x-ray films were obtained?
3) Were any other skull films obtained other than the single view that was taken either Ventro-Dorsally or Dorso-Ventrally (top to bottom or bottom to top-you can't tell by looking because the x-ray beam passes throught the same areas with both) such as lateral views (x-ray films taken directly from the side)? At least both of these views are essential for adequately evaluating for odontomas and for most other radiographically visible problems as well!
4) Disclaimer: I am not a Vet nor am I a radiologist (a specialist in interpreting x-ray studies). I will give my opinion however but it must recognized that this is only my opinion! Moving on; while looking at the Discharge Summary from 5/5/2023 that has Chest x-ray (CXR) films pasted to it; there is mention of "the lungs having cleared themselves up" but the "major abnormality in the chest is still there." I am not certain as to what the Vet has referring to as this "major abnormality" but it appears from it says beyond that on the Discharge Summary that they believe it may be the heart. This to me implies that the Vet is referring to the white centrally located, broad density with a blunt L-shape pointed leftward. This is the Heart "shadow" and the upper part of that is what is called the mediastinum which contains some major blood vessels and other "stuff" (to use a medical term!). This Heart "shadow" does appear at first glance to be quite wide in its relation to the lateral width (side to side dimension) of the chest but it is essential to recognize that unlike primates such as monkeys and humans where the broadest dimension of the chest is indeed the lateral dimension; Squirrels and most quadrupeds (those that walking on four legs) have there broadest chest dimension in Ventrodorsal line (from bottom to top) and not from side to side! The heart shadow appears to me to be relatively unremarkable and normal (but again, I am not a radiologist or Vet.
5) you mentioned that you had asked that an x-ray study of the whole body be obtained and with this a "chest contusion" was somehow identified. A contusion is essentially a bruise and is a mechanism of injury rather than necessarily the injury itself. For instance, being his in the head by brick is also a contusion but but whith that particular injury there may be a skull fracture, bleeding in the brain, a laceration, etc. By looking at a CXR it may be able under certain situations especially where the history is known to surmise that a contusion occurred but this "diagnosis" does not define or imply what the actual extent of injury might be. What in particular did the Vet see on the film that suggested a contusion? (on this CXR. my feeble eyes and Squirrel Block sized brain do not see an fractures, abnormal fluid accumulations or air in the chest where it shouldn't be (called a pneumothorax). It may be very important to know specifically what the abnormality was that was seen!
6) In regard to the "milky eye;" my concern about this is always that any milky fluid may actually be pus or when from the eyes; be pus mixed with tears. When a Squirrel has signs of breathing problems it certainly could be an Upper Respiratory Tract Infection, allergy, pneumonia and many other possibilities but, just you recognized; one of the very common culprits for breathing issues with Rodents has to do with dental problems and among those, odontoma is extremely common. Squirrel cannot easily change from their normal nose breathing to mouth breathing and any mouth breathing by a Squirrel must be considered abnormal and indicative of an evaluation.

Please describe what has actually been going on with Squeaky other then the milky eye that has seem abnormal or unusual?

7) It may be that Squeaky does have an odontoma or dental abscess. Antibiotics will do nothing for an odontoma and surgery is what is required BUT if there is an infection still going on in the root regions of a tooth or teeth, further antibiotics my be beneficial in that they may be able to cure an infection and help prevent spread of an infection IF there is still infection remaining. Even if antibiotics are not going to be restarted at this time, I would recommend trying to obtain antibiotics to keep in reserve. One of the antibiotics that I would consider among the best for a dental infection would Amoxicillin plus Clavulate (this is a combination medication. A veterinary brand is Clavamox and a Human brand is Augmentin but it is available as a generic). Please post whatever antibiotics you may have available and the strength of the particular tablets, powder or capsules you have.

I just wanted to get as much of my concerns expressed in this post as I am not sure how long my internet access with persists. I'll check back as I am able and there are many others on TSB who can help.

Regards,
SamtheSquirrel

I don't have any medications right now aside from what was prescribed to him. I'm not sure I could get the ones I mentioned, if they need to be prescribed or anything or if they can just be grabbed over the counter. But from what my vet said and the vet I showed his x rays to, they both said he appears to not have infection in his teeth. Just a small odontoma growing on one bottomed tooth which won't affect his breathing. But the chest contusion he was saying was the center white part that goes off to the side, I am pretty sure ..but then when I took him for updated x rays, the other doctor or receptionist came out and told me that the issue in his lung was the little white specs showing in his lung on the x ray but the new x rays it was cleared up mostly and a lot better. That is what I got from it..but again, he doesn't know squirrel anatomy so he wanted to look into it cuz he wasn't sure if it was normal. I'm worried he may have a heart problem or something wrong inside. And nobody is able to figure it out. And then I am told in order to know for sure he may need further diagnostic and cuz he is so little, it would be hard to do. I don't know what else to do or how to tell exactly what it is that is wrong with him. I was told milky tears means hes in pain. The metacam really helped with that, it all cleared up but now it's back again. And I just want to bunch of people's opinions to figure out what it is. Maybe he does have some sort of a cold, I'm not sure if that is a thing. But maybe his lungs or heart or whatever is causing him to sneeze a bunch and have pain. I feel bad for the little guy. He still plays and acts normal, but some days he just breathes wierd it looks like or he just hides in his bed

[Charley Chuckles]

I did send my vet your x-ray from your first post in old thread, I didn't have the info on odatoma. Only the x-ray of chest area. I'm sorry but I haven't heard back from her yet.
I hope to hear from her and I will put it up here if I do.
I know how agonizing it is not knowing and how much it cost😭

[SamtheSquirrel2018]

Hi Bean:
Thanks for your detailed posts! Any restriction to nasal breathing in a Squirrel is very noticeable as Squirrels are obligate nose breathers and do not easily go from nose breathing to mouth breathing even though it would make breathing much easier if the nose is stopped up! I do not know who Dr. Peters is but others on TSB may know of him.

Another Squirrel Vet who has many years of very extensive experience with Squirrel conditions and especially dental conditions is Dr. Alicia Emerson at the Ravenwood Veterinary Clinic in Port Orange, Florida. A number of our members have taken their Squirrels to her for odontoma surgery, malocclusions and dental abscesses. This is their number: (386) 788–1550. I would like to suggest that you ask your Vet to contact Dr. Emerson and discuss Squeaky's case with her. He could send the x-ray films and other records to her as well and she hopefully would be agreeable to reviewing those and rendering an opinion and make some recommendations. I would recommend doing this Monday morning when the Ravenwood Clinic opens.

With Squeaky's persistent nasal issues, I still suspect a dental condition such as an abscess. On an x-ray study, an odontoma appears as a white mass. An abscess or decay of a tooth appears dark and is much less evident on a x-ray or not evident at all even if quite extensive!

As far as milky or cloudy tears being a sign of pain; there are many on TSB who feel quite strongly about this and it is quite ok to treat Squeaky's presumed pain! All I would really like to suggest is that while doing so; it is still worth keeping an open mind and consider other possibilities for the cloudy tears which would certainly include drainage of pus or diluted pus. Most likely if pus, this would be originating from a draining abscess.

No antibiotics other than topical antibiotics are available OTC in the States and while I don't know definitively, I suspect the same is true in Canada. You can check with a pharmacy. Other things that may help breathing with through a "stuffy" nose would be to humidify the air Squeaky breathes utilizing a cool mist vaporizer placed near his home.

Please continue to post updates on Squeaky and thank you for coming to TSB!

Regards,
SamtheSquirrel

[Charley Chuckles]

Yes it was Dr Emerson I sent the chest x-ray to 👍

[SamtheSquirrel2018]

Another Squirrel Vet who has many years of very extensive experience with Squirrel conditions and especially dental conditions is Dr. Alicia Emerson at the Ravenwood Veterinary Clinic in Port Orange, Florida. A number of our members have taken their Squirrels to her for odontoma surgery, malocclusions and dental abscesses. This is their number: (386) 788–1550. I would like to suggest that you ask your Vet to contact Dr. Emerson and discuss Squeaky's case with her. He could send the x-ray films and other records to her as well and she hopefully would be agreeable to reviewing those and rendering an opinion and make some recommendations. I would recommend doing this Monday morning when the Ravenwood Clinic opens.

Hi Bean:
How is Squeaky doing this morning? I had intended to provide a link to the Ravenwood Veterinary Clinic website in my recent post but only posted their phone number. Here is the link: https://ravenwoodvet.net
Regards,
SamtheSquirrel

[Bean]

Squeaky was doing good this morning. It's kind of a hit and miss. He doesn't seem to have any issues breathing since his medicine he was on. Just sometimes his chest moves quite wierd some mornings when I walk in, I don't know if it is to do with excitement or something because he normally goes crazy soon as I come in cuz he knows he is getting his food. His chest movements go on for a few seconds and then he is normal. But other than that, I haven't noticed any nasally breathing or gasping like before. He seems to be breathing ok. And only the 1 eye seems to get milky only for a second and then is gone. Like when the dr asked me to put him in something smaller than the kennel he was in, I put him in a really small carrier, and he went nuts, he didn't like it at all, his eye showed some white stuff at the bottom for a second and when I took him back out and decided I wasn't gonna travel him in something he wasn't happy in, his milky eye went away. It's wierd. It's almost like if he blinks a certain way or moves it a certain way and goes nuts, it shows a little, but then is gone completely. I'm not sure what it is. His eyes before the medicine, were both milky and often, and his fur and everything just looked sick..il attach some photos of him before and after the meds. He seems to be doing ok, just sometimes the little things worry me, like the sneezes, which some days isn't very much, and some days are quite often, and then the little milky tear in 1 eye.

[Bean]

These are photos of him before his medications. He even lost his fur there, but it grew back before his medication started..and his teeth were really long and growing inward...but the x rays showed no odontoma, just the bottom tooth.

[Bean]

This is how squeaky looks now. He looks much healthier, and his teeth are trimmed, there even a little shorter than in this pic I just posted, but that was the 1st trimming, I don't have a updated pic. But he looks much better.. just the odd thing he does makes me worry. And his x ray I'm not sure about. I did talk to the owner of the squirrel called little thumbelina girl on instagram, and she took her squirrel for multiple surgeries by dr Emerson and also recommended her. I tried messaging her on Facebook weeks ago but got no reply, I was told she is very hard to get ahold of, otherwise I would have loved to have her message me with some input to help me out and my dr on what is wrong with my baby.

[SamtheSquirrel2018]

This is how squeaky looks now. He looks much healthier, and his teeth are trimmed, there even a little shorter than in this pic I just posted, but that was the 1st trimming, I don't have a updated pic. But he looks much better.. just the odd thing he does makes me worry. And his x ray I'm not sure about. I did talk to the owner of the squirrel called little thumbelina girl on instagram, and she took her squirrel for multiple surgeries by dr Emerson and also recommended her. I tried messaging her on Facebook weeks ago but got no reply, I was told she is very hard to get ahold of, otherwise I would have loved to have her message me with some input to help me out and my dr on what is wrong with my baby.

Hi Bean:
Charlie Chuckles stated in one of her posts that she already had forwarded Squeaky's Chest x-ray to Dr. E but has not yet heard back. Please go to the Revenwood Veterinary Clinic website tonight
( here is the link: https://ravenwoodvet.net ) and send an email to Dr. Emerson including all of the films and concisely describe Squeaky's history and what has been done to this point. The tomorrow, a soon as the office opens, call them directly (if no one answers leave a message but call back) and explain breifly about Squeaky's history and your concerns and inform them that you already sent an email with the x-ray films. Tell them that you would like to talk with Dr. Emerson for her advice and recommendations as you have been referred to her by a number of people on The Squirrel Board. Your Vet may be willing to help with this or actually have the consultation with Dr. E.

Thanks for the photos!
We will be here for you and Squeaky! Please provide updates!
Regards,
SamtheSquirrel

[Charley Chuckles]

I'm so sorry to say I haven't heard back yet.
Yes do send x-rays to the info SamTS gave you 👍

[SamtheSquirrel2018]

I'm so sorry to say I haven't heard back yet.
Yes do send x-rays to the info SamTS gave you 👍

Thanks! Sorry I spelled your first name wrong, CC!

[Charley Chuckles]

Thanks! Sorry I spelled your first name wrong, CC!

Charley Chuckles won't mind😂

[Bean]

I'm so sorry to say I haven't heard back yet.
Yes do send x-rays to the info SamTS gave you 👍

I did send all of the pics and info to that link and asked for Dr Emerson..she is away for quite a while I'm told...I have tried getting a hold of her before cuz I always hear about her, she wouldn't respond. I need answers soon, it's hard to find someone willing to be there fully and help through it. The rehabber I talk to hasn't been answering my messages much lately, My baby is sick and it makes me upset, I stress so much daily about it and it's starting to make me sick it's like my son is not doing well and there's nothing I can do for him. Nothing more upsetting than that. last night he had white fluid come out of his mouth like he threw up, but then was gone, and lots of sneezing again today. I need opinions, ideas? He seems ok, and then the next, seems sick again, and just off and on...somethin going on with him..I need Words that will make me feel better ..he's all that is on my mind, it's effecting my daily life and work...I love animals more than anything. I'm so frustrated..

[Charley Chuckles]

I did send all of the pics and info to that link and asked for Dr Emerson..she is away for quite a while I'm told...I have tried getting a hold of her before cuz I always hear about her, she wouldn't respond. I need answers soon, it's hard to find someone willing to be there fully and help through it. The rehabber I talk to hasn't been answering my messages much lately, My baby is sick and it makes me upset, I stress so much daily about it and it's starting to make me sick it's like my son is not doing well and there's nothing I can do for him. Nothing more upsetting than that. last night he had white fluid come out of his mouth like he threw up, but then was gone, and lots of sneezing again today. I need opinions, ideas? He seems ok, and then the next, seems sick again, and just off and on...somethin going on with him..I need Words that will make me feel better ..he's all that is on my mind, it's effecting my daily life and work...I love animals more than anything. I'm so frustrated..

Do you think she is still away or do you think she was away and now back but so backed up🤔
I know how you feel I'm a wreak when my babies are not feeling well.
I keep praying for your baby🙏

[Bean]

Do you think she is still away or do you think she was away and now back but so backed up🤔
I know how you feel I'm a wreak when my babies are not feeling well.
I keep praying for your baby🙏

Thank you! All prayers are needed. I am so sad and worried. I sent the email yesterday and I got a reply today that she is out of town for a while. I tried messaging her on her Facebook weeks ago too and she never replied. I really hope my little guy gets better, he means more to me than anything.

[SamtheSquirrel2018]

I did send all of the pics and info to that link and asked for Dr Emerson..she is away for quite a while I'm told...I have tried getting a hold of her before cuz I always hear about her, she wouldn't respond. I need answers soon, it's hard to find someone willing to be there fully and help through it. The rehabber I talk to hasn't been answering my messages much lately, My baby is sick and it makes me upset, I stress so much daily about it and it's starting to make me sick it's like my son is not doing well and there's nothing I can do for him. Nothing more upsetting than that. last night he had white fluid come out of his mouth like he threw up, but then was gone, and lots of sneezing again today. I need opinions, ideas? He seems ok, and then the next, seems sick again, and just off and on...somethin going on with him..I need Words that will make me feel better ..he's all that is on my mind, it's effecting my daily life and work...I love animals more than anything. I'm so frustrated..

Hi Bean:
I called the Ravenwood Clinic moments ago and was informed that Dr. E is indeed gone for this week. She will be back in the office on Monday, the 15th. I was also informed that there is no one at there facility other than Dr. E who sees Squirrels. I have put in a call to Summertree Animal & Bird Hospital close to Dallas. They also see Squirrels and we have had several of our Memebrs take their Squirrels to Summertree with good outcomes. I am expecting a call back from them after the person I talked with discusses this with the Veterinarians. I'll let you know as soon as they return my call.

One of the problems (Dr. E seems to recognize the line and often she is willing to discuss a case) with a "phone consultation" is that a true Patient/Client-Veterinarian relationship usually requires an actual examination and some of the relatively few Vets who see Squirrels will not even give advice, let alone make a diagnosis and institute treatment. One thing that might help make a phone consultation more acceptable would be if your Vet would initiate it. Are you willing to let your Vet participate in this search for further help and advice and if so, is your Vet willing to to this.

Again, in regard to white fluid, as I mentioned before, this to me is pus until proven otherwise. I still suspect a dental associated infection as the cause of Squeaky's problems! Antibiotics may help with an infection or even cure it it but if there is an odontoma as a condition leading to this, they will not do anything for the odontoma itself! Do you have ANY antibiotics available or can you obtain any from friends or relatives? The antibiotic I would recommend is Amoxicillin plus Clavulanate (examples of a Human Brand is Augmentin and a Veterinary brand is Clavamox) but others would be better than nothing. I would recommend beginning the antibiotics ASAP! We can help you with dosing. Please try to assess the availability of antibiotics in general and find out what you can get right away and post those with the strength in milligrams. Also, an accurate and current weight of Squeaky is essential!

Regards,
SamtheSquirrel