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    Unhappy Young wild with coordination problems (video provided)

    Hi again everyone,

    Thank you so much for your help with Scoop and Honey! They have both made a full recovery and are toughing out the heat wave that has hit the lower mainland of British Columbia. I hope I can ask for your help with Yogurt this time ❤️

    I’ll try to be as detailed as possible with the timeline and symptoms below — but in summary, Yogurt is suddenly having issues with balance and coordination. I’ve also left a brief description of her symptoms at the very end.

    Here is a video of her — time stamps are in the video description.
    https://youtu.be/Aov6ujzOmbs

    Yogurt is a wild young Eastern Grey, she was born during the recent breeding season. She started visiting around 2–3 months ago with her sister (Pudding). Normally, she’s really full of energy (like the other young ones) and was always play fighting with Pudding. Also very clever! She was one of the first young ones to figure out that the treats on the balcony come when the doors open 😂

    She’s been her usual self up until July 26, which happened to be the beginning of the heat wave. She came in the morning with poor coordination, unusual movements, and was slower to process what was happening around her. When she was sitting still to eat, she would wobble back and forth, lean to either side, and always had her head tilted at an angle. Her jumps weren’t precise — not because of her tail, but it seemed like her depth perception is off.

    We were trying to have her drink some water or have her come just a little inside to cool off like the other squirrels had been doing, but she seemed too disoriented to drink water or cool off. She was not pancaking like the others, and only ate a little bit of almond and coconut. She didn’t stay as long as she usually does, so we couldn’t properly assess what might be wrong. At first we thought it might be the heat.

    We didn’t see her again until July 29, where her condition was relatively the same. This time she drank water, ate a leaf of kale and some coconut oiled nuts. A rehabber told me to give her a dose of selamectin. I still have Revolution from when I was helping Honey, so I gave her a pecan that had a drop of Revolution on it. She stayed longer, so I was able to check her better. Her coat and tail seemed normal, and she had no visible injuries.

    She came back again on July 31 and seemed almost back to normal. Mentally, her energy had increased a little, and her processing seemed to be like usual. Physically, she was still wobbling, leaning, and falling over. Again, she had some water, ate a leaf of kale, and took some almonds to hide.

    She came back again on August 02 and her energy levels were completely back to normal. Coincidentally this was also the first cool day since the heat wave. If I didn’t know she had been struggling for a few days, I wouldn’t think she was injured. Even though she still has poor coordination and is still off balance, she was chasing and chattering at other squirrels, jumping around without as many falls, and foraging. She even challenged Roo, an older male who usually claims the balcony when he comes. I am out of the kale she likes, so unfortunately all she got were some coconut oiled almond and hazelnut bits. She also drank some water.

    That brings us to today! Thank you for reading this far.

    I’ve been scouring the board for other people who have squirrels with similar symptoms and have come across A LOT of possible answers. I can’t tell if this is an ear infection, or a skeletal, muscular, or neurological issue. I came across Racoon Roundworm and really really really hope it isn’t that.

    What do you think is going on with Yogurt? What can I do to help her through it? Do you think I should start supplementing calcium carbonate to her since she seemed to be back to normal after eating kale?

    Here is the video again — time stamps are in the video description.
    https://youtu.be/Aov6ujzOmbs

    To sum up the timeline —
    July 26: wobbling, head tilt, lack of coordination.
    July 29: same condition, and given Revolution and calcium rich veggies.
    July 31: slight better, but still seemed unbalanced.
    August 02: high energy and behaving like normal, but still lacking coordination.

    Thank you so much for any advice you have! I love little Yogurt so much 😞 Please let me know if I have missed anything you might need.

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    Hey everyone,

    Yogurt came by! She’s looking much more stable and able to make more confident jumps. She’s still wobbling slightly when she’s sitting and does trip when she’s walking on branches. Her eyes are tracking well again. She’s still leaning very violently to her side, so now I’m wondering if she’s hurt a muscle or bone.

    The calcium-rich veggies and coconut oil seem to really be helping. She was so much more the familiar bright eyed little grey that I know.

    I’m going to keep looking out for and hope she’s on the mend! I don’t know how fast Racoon Ringworm progresses, but I really hope it isn’t that.

    I have video from today and I will upload soon! I’ll update when it’s posted.

    Thanks ❤️

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    Really quick update from today — she did a lot of round the tree chasing today and I noticed she was also tearing bark away from the tree. I don’t know what that means she still seems wobbly and she hasn’t stopped by for a nut which is a little out of the ordinary. When she did come, she ran away from me which is really strange!

    Still have to upload the video, but I’ll update when I do!

    I hope the tree bark chewing isn’t an indication of something bad and is just her being a squirrel.

    ❤️

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    I think it is much more likely that she took a fall or otherwise suffered a head blow. Raccoon Roundworm doesn't improve, BTW so I would not worry about that here. She will probably continue to slowly improve - she may never get to 100% but with the help you provide to her she will likely get close. In captivity you could have given her prednisone early on which would have probably speeded up the process, but she is looking really pretty good now.

    My squirrel has been chewing everything he can get his terrible little teeth on. Given that he lives indoors, it means my window frames are taking a beating and standing outside would reveal me repeating "ZEKE! NO!!!" over and over. This is new behavior. I am also seeing my outdoor wilds paying earlier than usual attention to stuffing extra leaves in the nests and generally seeming to be thinking of winter while it is 90+ degrees. Farmers Almanac says colder and snowier just about everywhere that gets that kind of thing. I think they know something we don't.

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    Yogurt came back yesterday! I was so
    happy to see her 😭

    She still has the same issues, so I’m going to bring her to a rehabber. It’s not necessarily worse, but it’s not better. I think it’s neurological, not an injury or a sprain. She’s falling over a lot but she’s still got her energy and she hasn’t lost any weight, so I know she’s been managing well.

    I’m going to go buy the havaheart trap today, and the rehab centre is a short drive away. My plan is to trap her, throw a blanket over the trap, and load her into the car immediately.

    I feel so bad to stress her out that way. Is there anything I can do to make it less stressful for her? Should I put water in the cage?

    At the rehab centre, I’m going to explain that I am willing to volunteer my time with her if they need any help. I will also let them know that I’m comfortable taking her back and releasing her in her territory. But I’ll leave that decision up to them and what’s best for Yogurt.

    Is there anything I can do to make this all easier on the rehab centre? I want to support them as best I can.

    I hope rehab will help her!

    Thanks again to everyone who has been following along ❤️

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    Have you heard of "Rescue Remedy"? It's a blend of Bach Flower Essences that helps calm an animal or person in shock or stress. It comes in a liquid and a spray. The spray is good because you can spray it in the carrier and they breathe it in. You don't spray it on them. This is good when it's an animal you can't handle. The liquid you can rub on ears and it will go into their system that way; if it is an animal you can touch. This is a homeopathic type item.

    The cheapest I saw it was on Walmarts website, you'd have to see if you could find it locally as ordering it would be too late.
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bach-Resc...QaAjgxEALw_wcB

    Is there any chance Yogurt got a bad case of heatstroke? I've heard that can affect squirrels differently. I had only one case of that, a wild squirrel was out of it for 48 hours. I was able to sit with it until it recovered, which it did. It could be what CritterMom suggested.

    I wish you well.

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    You need to research this rehab center 10 ways to Sunday. The vast majority will euthanize a squirrel with non-release issues, especially in the fall when they are buried with babies that have a better chance. You can't bring her in and ask, either - they will seize her from you. I am not sure how to find out their policy, but finding a rehab willing to take in non releasable squirrels is like finding a unicorn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighten-Up View Post
    Have you heard of "Rescue Remedy"? It's a blend of Bach Flower Essences that helps calm an animal or person in shock or stress. It comes in a liquid and a spray. The spray is good because you can spray it in the carrier and they breathe it in. You don't spray it on them. This is good when it's an animal you can't handle. The liquid you can rub on ears and it will go into their system that way; if it is an animal you can touch. This is a homeopathic type item.

    The cheapest I saw it was on Walmarts website, you'd have to see if you could find it locally as ordering it would be too late.
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bach-Resc...QaAjgxEALw_wcB

    Is there any chance Yogurt got a bad case of heatstroke? I've heard that can affect squirrels differently. I had only one case of that, a wild squirrel was out of it for 48 hours. I was able to sit with it until it recovered, which it did. It could be what CritterMom suggested.

    I wish you well.
    Thank you!! I don’t think it’s heatstroke because it’s persisted for three months!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CritterMom View Post
    You need to research this rehab center 10 ways to Sunday. The vast majority will euthanize a squirrel with non-release issues, especially in the fall when they are buried with babies that have a better chance. You can't bring her in and ask, either - they will seize her from you. I am not sure how to find out their policy, but finding a rehab willing to take in non releasable squirrels is like finding a unicorn...
    You’re right! I called them today and they said they would put her down if she turned out to be non-releasable. They’re under construction right now and have very limited space. So I’ve crossed them off my list for Yogurt.

    I’m going to call another centre that’s further away tomorrow. My friend brought one of her wilds to them that had the same symptoms. She said that they gave the squirrel a shot and within a couple weeks, she was allowed to take him home to release him into his territory.

    I hope I have better luck with this other rehab centre.

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    I haven’t seen her today yet I miss her so much!! Here’s some pics of her ❤️

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    I found a place that can look at her and will not put her down! I have the trap as well, so now I’ll just wait for her to come.

    I do have one question —
    If yogurt comes in the evening, is it okay to trap her and keep her overnight? Is there anything I can do for if that’s the case?

    The rehab centre I found (in Langley, BC, Canada) closes at 6, so IF yogurt came at the same time, I probably wouldn’t get to the centre in time.

    Thanks again everyone!

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    Yes, you can keep her overnight. Make sure there are blankets inside the cage that she can bury herself under and cover the cage with a sheet or blanket to keep her stress level down. A quiet dark place would also be helpful.

    I feel for you. I’m going to have to do the same thing with one of my releases in order to get her to the vet. I hate stressing her out and possibly ruining the trust we have.

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    Red face Happy yogurt news

    Hi again everyone!

    I’ve been meaning to write an update on yogurt for a while now, but life happened haha

    I’ve got FANTASTIC news though! Yogurt’s coordination problems are hardly noticeable anymore! Her head is stuck in a permanent tilt but she doesn’t seem to mind it. It always looks like she has a question for me haha

    Seriously, I’m so proud of her. She really toughed it out and persisted and now she’s completely unrecognizable from the squirrel who was laying on her side to eat because she couldn’t even sit. I was so scared for her for so long.

    I’m not sure if what I did helped her in the long run, but I made sure she had HHB’s every time she came. If she didn’t eat HHB’s, I gave her some almonds dusted in Henry’s vitamin powder. She also knew she had plenty of fresh water, fruits, and veggies here.

    I also put a BUNCH of perches, rope, and ladders everywhere so she could move more comfortably, have safe nooks to lean against in case she was wobbling too much, or have something to catch in case she was falling. Squirrel mobility aids? Whenever she came by, I made sure to clear the area of aggressive squirrels so she could eat comfortably.

    I hope having a comfortable space helped in some small way. We became very familiar with each other over time and now she will just waltz up to me.

    She’s even slowly getting her confidence back up to be that feisty little baby I met last year.

    I’m just so happy and stunned at how strong and clever this girl is! She quickly adapted and used her tail to counterbalance herself on really wobbly days. She learned how to shift her weight around. She learned leaning. I’m so so proud of her.

    Thanks to everyone here for being so supportive the whole time!!! Yogurt is a happy little squirrel now, thanks to you! Truly, the change in her personality is like night and day. She’s so bouncy and hyper now that she’s figured out how to move her body!!!!

    I’ll get video up soon! You’ll be so proud at the improvement!

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    I am so happy for you, that is truly fantastic news!

    . Yogurt

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    Awesome 😀
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