Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Is it MBD?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2021
    Location
    AL
    Posts
    6
    Thanked: 1

    Default Is it MBD?

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm currently rehabbing a group of gray squirrels. All of them are great, except for one. Ever since her eyes opened, I noticed that she is having trouble using her front legs. One in particular, she drags. She ends up pushing herself around on her chest. When she stops to think about it, she can put weight on them. I've taken her into the wildlife center I'm a part of and they said there was nothing broken and wants to take a wait and see approach, but I'm afraid that if it's MBD that waiting is going to be detrimental to her. She's eating fine and seems content. Her front legs just won't cooperate. A lot of times, her little hands bend back at the wrists and she tries to walk that way. I would say she's about 6-7 weeks old. I'm not really sure what else could be wrong, and MBD was the first thing that popped into my mind. Does this sound like symptoms of MBD, and if so, what should I do?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    Rivendell
    Posts
    1,984
    Thanked: 2267

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    Hi! One of the experts will have ideas, but my first thought is, does she have any sibs in this group? Is this a litter or a mixed bag of different ages? Because if you do everything the same way for everyone and they're all thriving, that smacks of some other issue. Is she the oldest? What do you feed, and how often? If you're following all the protocols on feeding and everyone but her is doing well, it sounds like a problem specific to her. Was she ever injured/took a fall etc. that you know of that might have injured her?
    "I hope everyone got or gets their Baby Love today"~Shewhosweptforest

    https://www.henryspets.com/1-baby-squirrel-care-guide/

  3. Serious fuzzy thank you's to Chirps from:

    redwuff (10-02-2021)

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    eastcoast
    Posts
    4,810
    Thanked: 5578

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    What are you feeding? On a nutritionally sound diet she should not get mbd. If she tends to walk on the backs of her front toes, that can be a spinal issue. Chirps got all the things to look for.

    Would love to see a picture of her!
    redwuff
    State Licensed
    Master Wildlife Rehabilitator

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2021
    Location
    AL
    Posts
    6
    Thanked: 1

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chirps View Post
    Hi! One of the experts will have ideas, but my first thought is, does she have any sibs in this group? Is this a litter or a mixed bag of different ages? Because if you do everything the same way for everyone and they're all thriving, that smacks of some other issue. Is she the oldest? What do you feed, and how often? If you're following all the protocols on feeding and everyone but her is doing well, it sounds like a problem specific to her. Was she ever injured/took a fall etc. that you know of that might have injured her?
    Thanks so much for the reply! She does have other siblings... as far as I know, they are all her actual siblings. Everyone else is doing fine. They all get FV and rodent block... 5 feedings a day. I don't know much about their situation, other than that someone found their nest and brought them in. I can try and get a video if that would be helpful in determining what might be wrong. I just want to be doing everything I can for her.

  6. Serious fuzzy thank you's to Kierlyn.A from:

    redwuff (10-02-2021)

  7. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    eastcoast
    Posts
    4,810
    Thanked: 5578

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    What FV are you feeding 32/40 or 20/50? Video would be terrific!
    redwuff
    State Licensed
    Master Wildlife Rehabilitator

  8. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2021
    Location
    AL
    Posts
    6
    Thanked: 1

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    Quote Originally Posted by redwuff View Post
    What FV are you feeding 32/40 or 20/50? Video would be terrific!
    fv 20/50... here's a link to a video https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PWL...ew?usp=sharing

  9. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Northeast
    Posts
    20,697
    Thanked: 10019

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    Is that arm swollen? I can't get a good look at his other arm so I can't compare. This looks like an injury to me... Did the wildlife center x-ray? If not, can they?

  10. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2021
    Location
    AL
    Posts
    6
    Thanked: 1

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    Quote Originally Posted by CritterMom View Post
    Is that arm swollen? I can't get a good look at his other arm so I can't compare. This looks like an injury to me... Did the wildlife center x-ray? If not, can they?
    It’s about the same size as the other arm. No X-ray… I don’t think we even have the ability to. The rehab laws are so crazy in AL so more wildlife is euthanized than helped really. If she’s deemed not releasable when it’s time, then she’ll be put down. Because there aren’t many rehabbers in the state, every place stays so full and just don’t have the resources to focus on these kind of issues. I’m so scared for her and want to do whatever I can to give her a chance.

  11. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    eastcoast
    Posts
    4,810
    Thanked: 5578

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    It looks broken to me. Can you use some painters tape to put it in position and tape it. Cut it down to 1/2 inch size. Do it after she has fed and she is sleepy. Put a layer of white tape over the painters tape.

    Is the other leg the same way? Thank you for the video. That really helped. If the leg is broken/dysfunctional at the wrist joint, it can’t be fixed.
    redwuff
    State Licensed
    Master Wildlife Rehabilitator

  12. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2021
    Location
    AL
    Posts
    6
    Thanked: 1

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    Quote Originally Posted by redwuff View Post
    It looks broken to me. Can you use some painters tape to put it in position and tape it. Cut it down to 1/2 inch size. Do it after she has fed and she is sleepy. Put a layer of white tape over the painters tape.

    Is the other leg the same way? Thank you for the video. That really helped. If the leg is broken/dysfunctional at the wrist joint, it can’t be fixed.
    Thank you! Her other leg seems to be fine. Do I need to use anything under the tape to give it more stability or will the tape be enough to help?

  13. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    City Island, Bronx, NY
    Posts
    52,038
    Thanked: 18880

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    I have seen this in a squirrel many years ago (Christine ) and it turned out to be a collar bone injury. Without access to X-rays you will not be able to determine if this is also the case. I would suggest a course of Prednisone -- it can do wonders for nerve damage and inflammation. Poor girlie.

    PS: it is practically impossible for a squirrel her age, on formula, to get MBD. Something else is certainly going on.
    Island Rehabber
    NY State Licensed
    Wildlife Rehabilitator


    "Ancora Imparo" (I am still learning)
    Michelangelo


    *
    If you can't afford the vet,
    You can't afford a pet.
    NEGLECT IS ABUSE.

    "Better one day in the trees, than a lifetime in a cage."

    '...and the greatest of these, is Love. '

  14. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2021
    Location
    AL
    Posts
    6
    Thanked: 1

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    Quote Originally Posted by island rehabber View Post
    I have seen this in a squirrel many years ago (Christine ) and it turned out to be a collar bone injury. Without access to X-rays you will not be able to determine if this is also the case. I would suggest a course of Prednisone -- it can do wonders for nerve damage and inflammation. Poor girlie.

    PS: it is practically impossible for a squirrel her age, on formula, to get MBD. Something else is certainly going on.
    That’s good to know thank you. MBD has always just been one of my greatest fears so that’s what my mind always jumps to. That’s very interesting about the collar bone but it makes total sense. I’ve thought she might need a steroid all along… but how do you get access to medications when you don’t have access. *sigh* I just so badly want to help her.

  15. #13
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    City Island, Bronx, NY
    Posts
    52,038
    Thanked: 18880

    Default Re: Is it MBD?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kierlyn.A View Post
    That’s good to know thank you. MBD has always just been one of my greatest fears so that’s what my mind always jumps to. That’s very interesting about the collar bone but it makes total sense. I’ve thought she might need a steroid all along… but how do you get access to medications when you don’t have access. *sigh* I just so badly want to help her.
    Lots of people have 'extra' medications around, especially things like prednisone where they are taken on and off for flare-ups of whatever. Ask neighbors, family and friends.
    Island Rehabber
    NY State Licensed
    Wildlife Rehabilitator


    "Ancora Imparo" (I am still learning)
    Michelangelo


    *
    If you can't afford the vet,
    You can't afford a pet.
    NEGLECT IS ABUSE.

    "Better one day in the trees, than a lifetime in a cage."

    '...and the greatest of these, is Love. '

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •