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    Default Drooling, sweating, or something else?

    Hi everyone,

    Background info: My squirrel Ziggy, who turns one in mid August, is a both inside and outside squirrel. She stays in her sheltered outside habitat while I'm at work from 10:00 - 5:30/6. Her outside habitat has both sunny areas and covered areas including a nesting box (necessities like food and water are a given ). However, like all things living in Louisiana, during the summer she seems to like spending as much time in the air conditioning as possible. Being so, right now she prefers her in door habitat. She eats a mixture of veggies, rodent block, a small amount of fruit, forest items (pinecones, branches, leaves, flowers), and one or two nuts a day.
    Right now the heat index in LA can span from the high 90s to about 105* F.

    My question: The last couple of days I brought ziggy in and noticed that the lower half of her mouth down to her neck has been wet with what I'm assuming is spit. Has anyone else seen this in their squirrels? I thought it might have something to do with the temperature. I haven't found too much on the subject. It hasn't rained nor does she have standing water in her habitat. I don't think she's been rubbing water on her face from her spout because her hands would be wet. I give her an ice cube when she comes in that she rubs against and licks. I haven't gotten a picture of it, but I feel like it's spit.

    Sorry for the lengthy post!

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    Default Re: Drooling, sweating, or something else?

    SHE IS IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF HEAT STROKE!

    http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/s...heat-in-Summer!

    If you read this thread, it mentions all the symptoms you described above. Please don't let her be out in the heat anymore like that. You are fortunate that she hasn't succumbed completely to heat stroke, which can be irreversible.

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    Default Re: Drooling, sweating, or something else?

    Thank you! I will keep her inside until temperatures cool down. We are in the process of getting her a solar powered air cooler for her outside habitat. I had my suspicions about heat stroke and attempted the cool down procedure. Unfortunately all she wanted to do once she was inside was run and climb everywhere resulting in water all over the place haha. However the ice seems to work well. She's been burying the cubes in her nesting blanket "to save for later," she's a goof ball.

    But rest assured I will take this very seriously and Ziggs will be spending the remainder of her summer mostly in doors.

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    Default Re: Drooling, sweating, or something else?

    Quote Originally Posted by island rehabber View Post
    SHE IS IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF HEAT STROKE!

    http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/s...heat-in-Summer!

    If you read this thread, it mentions all the symptoms you described above. Please don't let her be out in the heat anymore like that. You are fortunate that she hasn't succumbed completely to heat stroke, which can be irreversible.


    Just reposting the precautions here too Maura.


    Quote Originally Posted by island rehabber View Post
    Warning! Squirrels Can Overheat in Summer

    1. Never place a caged squirrel in direct sunlight.
    2. Always provide water and shade.
    3. On hot and/or humid days, indoor squirrels should be kept inside.
    4. To-be-released squirrels need to be slowly acclimated to summer temps.
    5. Never leave indoor squirrels (or unacclimated to-be-released squirrels) unattended outdoors.
    6. Take extra care when traveling. Never leave your squirrel in the car without the air-conditioning turned on, even with all the windows open.

    Symptoms of Heatstroke
    Mild--Damp fur, appears to be sweating, rapid heartbeat and breathing
    Moderate--Drooling or "foaming at the mouth," labored breathing, vomiting
    Severe--diarrhea (may contain blood or mucous), uncoordination, seizures, collapse

    If you see any of these symptoms, bring the squirrel indoors immediately and begin Emergency Cool-Down Procedures:

    Emergency Treatment for Heatstroke

    Heatstroke is a life-threatening emergency--Do not delay treatment!

    Symptoms of Heatstroke

    Mild--Damp fur, appears to be sweating, rapid heartbeat and breathing
    Moderate--Drooling or "foaming at the mouth," labored breathing, vomiting
    Severe--diarrhea (may contain blood or mucous), uncoordination, seizures, collapse

    Emergency Cool-Down Procedures

    You must get the squirrel cooled down quickly. Seconds count!

    1. Bring the squirrel inside.
    2. Dip the squirrel in cool water up to his neck.
    3. Lay the squirrel down on a damp cloth with his head slightly elevated and turn on a fan.
    4. Bathe the squirrel with a cold wet cloth, especially the head and tail areas. Ice packs can be placed around the squirrel (not on him or under him).
    5. Offer a small amount of cool water to drink.
    Note: Keep the squirrel as quiet and still as possible; exercise will cause him to become more overheated.

    For mild cases, the above treatment may be enough. For moderate/severe cases, vet care is required to save the squirrel's life. If you don't have a vet, have someone else call around while you continue the cool-down process.

    6. Don't stop the cool-down process, even for a minute.
    7. If it's a warm day, run the AC in your car before you transport.
    8. Transport the squirrel quickly to the vet, continuing to bathe the squirrel with a cool washcloth while en route (bring some cold water with you).
    9. When you get to the vet, tell them it's severe heatstroke. They should rush the squirrel to the back for emergency care immediately.
    10. No matter what happens, keep bathing the squirrel in cool water until the squirrel in the vet's hands.

    If heatstroke occurs away from home or while traveling. Use the same procedures as above. Use anything you can find to cool the squirrel down. In a pinch, a cold soda or even water from a nearby stream can be used until you can find help.

    If you have no access to a vet, try to find a rehabber. If you're on your own, you will need to monitor the squirrel constantly, including his body temperature. Take the squirrel's temperature using a rectal thermometer or a digital ear thermometer. When his temp reaches 103 degrees F, you must stop the cool-down procedures to avoid overcooling. Continue to offer cool water drop by drop.

    Most squirrels will not survive moderate/severe heatstroke without IV fluids, which only a vet can provide.


    Note: Signs of permanent organ damage may not show up for several hours or even days. The squirrel may seem to recover initially, then get worse later.

    A squirrel can develop heatstroke in as little as 10 minutes, even in the shade!

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    Default Re: Drooling, sweating, or something else?

    I tried to get a picture to show the bits around her mouth when I had first brought her inside, but this is the best I got. She won't sit still unless I'm petting her or she's sleeping. She's on her carpet tree aka "the lookout" for her supervised free-roam time.

    The spit parts are hard to see here, but they're around the frilly fur on the corners of her mouth down to the top of her neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddie View Post

    But rest assured I will take this very seriously and Ziggs will be spending the remainder of her summer mostly in doors.


    Phew. Good mamma.
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    Default Re: Drooling, sweating, or something else?

    I am so glad that you came and asked. Others are not so lucky. I had a message just today about a wild squirrel who was chased by a dog and then seemed to succumb to heat stroke. The finder tried to help him/her, but the squirrel passed from it. When I saw the title of your post, I was worried. So glad that you had some of the best helping you!
    A couple of years ago, my boy who also goes in in the afternoon and outside during the day, had this happen too. I was so thankful that I got him cooled down in time and I am thankful that you did too.
    Keep up the good work mama!

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