help needed please

[glidergals]

new to this board
i have hand raised preemie sugar gliders but not baby flyers sooooooo
i need help with 3 (aprox 2 week old) flyers i rescued tonight. my daughters husband cut a tree down around dinner time. when the tree was down he noticed a nest on the ground and they found the 3 babies on the ground right near the nest, no momma in sight so she called me
i have all the supplies to hand raise sugar gliders, so she thought they would have the best chance of survival with me. on the way i speak with a lady i know that has flyers etc,,,
1st get them and get them warm, done.
2nd after warmed up weight, try to potty and pedialite, done BUT only one pooped a tiny bit.. worried i start trying to offer warmed pedialite i have been able to get a few drops a few times into each one still no pottying (their heat is being regulated) i was told i need to worry abut hydrating them first, but not feeling very succesfull should i try to offer esbilac puppy or stay with the warmed pedialite for now??
on the sugar gliders i use biolac m100 but i have esbiolac puppy also
it is 11:10 pm here and i picked them up about 3 hours ago

[glidergals]

they are 8, 9 and 10gs

[Annabelle's papa]

they are 8, 9 and 10gs

Hi glidergals and to The Squirrel Board, Thank You for rescuing these Lil' Ones. Warm, dark, quiet is the protocol, and pedialyte until you think they are no longer dehydrated, you shouldn't offer any Esbilac until they are fully hydrated. Do you have the container they are in half on, half off, of a non shutoff heating pad set on low, and are you using a small 1 cc syringe, head down syringe up, to prevent aspiration?

[Annabelle's papa]

The pedialyte shouldn't be given much longer than 24 hours, I'm sure you are familiar with the pinch test to determine dehydration, here is a link to the proper feeding technique, and more advice will follow concerning the correct mixture of the Esbilac.


http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/s...DING-TECHNIQUE!!

[glidergals]

thank you miss annabella
i do know how to position them and feed with the tip up. (this is the way we feed sugar gliders too i have all the supplies for them atm but i am going to pick up milocon drops tomorro just in case i will need them.
i know sugar gliders are marsupials ( hand raising is simlar in some ways . however i have always used biolac m100 for the gliders and it never causes bloat).. i know flyers are not marsupials but has anyone ever used the biolac? jw

i had the heat pad under the whole diy incubator so i will make it only on 1/2 ty

i also know the tent test if they are dehydrated imo they are just a little because it doesnt stay up long
? we sometimes have to subq gliders to get the flyers more hydrated can subqs be done?

and my diy incubator is made out of a critter keeper, but i was wondering if it would be better to use our incubator hovabator 1602n that we have used for reptiles?? the heat is set and more dispursed. so i am wondering?

[Annabelle's papa]

thank you miss annabella
i do know how to position them and feed with the tip up. (this is the way we feed sugar gliders too i have all the supplies for them atm but i am going to pick up milocon drops tomorro just in case i will need them.
i know sugar gliders are marsupials ( hand raising is simlar in some ways . however i have always used biolac m100 for the gliders and it never causes bloat).. i know flyers are not marsupials but has anyone ever used the biolac? jw

i had the heat pad under the whole diy incubator so i will make it only on 1/2 ty

i also know the tent test if they are dehydrated imo they are just a little because it doesnt stay up long
? we sometimes have to subq gliders to get the flyers more hydrated can subqs be done?

and my diy incubator is made out of a critter keeper, but i was wondering if it would be better to use our incubator hovabator 1602n that we have used for reptiles?? the heat is set and more dispursed. so i am wondering?

Bless Your Heart gg, your experience with glider babies had you very prepared for these Lil' Ones, I have no baby experience myself, so I was just providing some reassurance.

From what I've read Esbilac is preferred for Baby squirrels, although the Fox Valley formulas are used with both squirrels and marsupials. I'm sure you will receive a lot of experienced information in the morning, including the correct mixing ratio for these little babies. I believe the Esbilac might also need to have some cream, etc, mixed with it to increase the fat content.

There are many members here who care for gliders as well as squirrels, and you are more than welcome to start an individual thread just for your gliders, but you have to promise to post a lot of photos.

[wolfysluv]

Hey guys! This is Michelle posting. Michelle, not sure if you want me to say your full name, who you are etc.

Anyway, as stated she is an experienced glider person. A breeder and somewhat of a go to person. I'm excited for her, but so very nervous too. I've never seen newborns like that myself. I'd panic! Lol. Can't wait for others to chime in with advice.

[Bravo]

GG, you might find the info in this thread useful... http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/s...elp-and-advice!!

and my diy incubator is made out of a critter keeper, but i was wondering if it would be better to use our incubator hovabator 1602n that we have used for reptiles?? the heat is set and more dispursed. so i am wondering?

As far as I know, the heating pad is sufficient and gives the little ones an option to self-regulate.

[glidergals]

Hey guys! This is Michelle posting. Michelle, not sure if you want me to say your full name, who you are etc.

Anyway, as stated she is an experienced glider person. A breeder and somewhat of a go to person. I'm excited for her, but so very nervous too. I've never seen newborns like that myself. I'd panic! Lol. Can't wait for others to chime in with advice.

Hey wolfy😀
So far so good with the babies. (2 boys and a girl) Me... I'm So tired already lol
I had to go to a meeting at my sons school and had to take them with me. I ordered miracle nipples. Small and reg.. Squirrel baby/adult food for later and o ring syringes.
I was using warm pedialite till (I think the 3am feeding and have been using 1part esbilac to 3 parts water and a lil pedialite now every 2 hours. And if I think they need more I give a lil pedialite in between. I have all the supplies to subq reg and lactated (spelling) ringers. but do not know if I should with flyers? One min I think they look good then I question when tenting. OMG I am so nervous
The heat pad is on low under the critter keeper. In the critter keeper there is fleece, then a lil squarish container with fleece them they are in the fleece. I feel that they either get to hot or to cold. Could I use the incubator??
I'm not sure if they are going pee when I stimulate them and I have only seen a tiny bit of poo 2x.

I successfully raised 2preemie sugar glider joeys, that were about 1 1/2- 2 weeks premature. They weighed 7.5 gs each (oop they should be 11-14gs. But I feel like this is my first time with these 3 lil flyers.

[glidergals]

Preemie babies sugar gliders after

Hey wolfy
So far so good with the babies. (2 boys and a girl) Me... I'm So tired already lol
I had to go to a meeting at my sons school and had to take them with me. I ordered miracle nipples. Small and reg.. Squirrel baby/adult food for later and o ring syringes.
I was using warm pedialite till (I think the 3am feeding and have been using 1part esbilac to 3 parts water and a lil pedialite now every 2 hours. And if I think they need more I give a lil pedialite in between. I have all the supplies to subq reg and lactated (spelling) ringers. but do not know if I should with flyers? One min I think they look good then I question when tenting. OMG I am so nervous
The heat pad is on low under the critter keeper. In the critter keeper there is fleece, then a lil squarish container with fleece them they are in the fleece. I feel that they either get to hot or to cold. Could I use the incubator??
I'm not sure if they are going pee when I stimulate them and I have only seen a tiny bit of poo 2x.

I successfully raised 2preemie sugar glider joeys, that were about 1 1/2- 2 weeks premature. They weighed 7.5 gs each (oop they should be 11-14gs. But I feel like this is my first time with these 3 lil flyers.

[pappy1264]

Hi Michelle. I am glad you made it here. How are they doing? I got two more in and the finder found a third and on their way back. I will check in later to see if there is an update.

[glidergals]

you have 2/3 you are raising now also?

i got all 3 to potty at the last feeding YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY . the next feeding is in a few min, just waiting for their syringes to warm now

[pappy1264]

I am raising 8 babies as of this evening...lol Yay...

[glidergals]

I am raising 8 babies as of this evening...lol Yay...

i dont know how you do it..............
do u have baby flyers too?

[pappy1264]

No, greys. Smallest right now is 57 grams.

[glidergals]

babies are doing ok. i am waiting for new syringes, a 10ths scale, miracle nipples and fox valley 32/40 formula to get here.

for now we are making do with what we have and esbilac.

[pappy1264]

Glad they are doing well. They look really good and seem very active.

[imgodsgirl07]

Where are you located gg?

[Mommaluvy]

She is in Mass.

[glidergals]

Where are you located gg?

Yesterday we got the supplies in.
The fox valley I missed with the eabilac for 24 hours
Now they are just on the fox valley. We are now using the miracle o ring syringes and the miracle nipples
The lack of sleep is catching up to me. No am so tired.
But. They are doing well.
I have had them for almost 1 week and They are just starting to get some fuzz.