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    I have a 2 1/2 to 3 week old infant, weighing 34g, with lesions on left side of his body. They started as a vague spot and have developed into horrible, crusty lesions. I will try to attach pictures from when I first noticed it to today, but not very computer literate. So far, I have done 3 days of Baytril BID at .015cc, cleaned with hibiclens, and applied diluted betadine. I changed the antibiotic to Clavamox .014cc, (the mg/ml is 3mg/30ml), on the 4th day. I am cleaning with hibiclens BID, and applying an antifungal cream on the lesions. He gets Benebac 2 x day. The lesions are not wet at this point, but very thick and look very painful.

    Today is the 6th day that this going on. What am I doing wrong and what can I do to help him? He is still taking his formula, peeing and pooping, (although a bit runny), great. Can I give him meloxicam or infant ibuprofen in addition t0 the antibiotics?

    Please help. I don't want to lose this little guy. He is fighting so hard.
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    Can you get Valtrex or Zovirax or any form of acyclovir ASAP? Maybe friends or family have some to treat a form of herpes. HE needs an antiviral and if you catch this early you can stop its progression. Poor sweetie...
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    Not sure giving any AB is needed since this is POX. Maybe other TSB members can comment on this ??

    I also wonder if its better to not put Betadine on lesions as you want them to dry up. Comment Anybody ??

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    I cannot get any of the meds suggested. I have already gone that route and begged everyone I know. I would be tickled to stop the antibiotics if it is warranted. He does have runny poops and is dehydrated from it. Is the antifungal cream doing any good? There is no infection and he is still eating his formula, peeing and pooping good. Do I need to try to find another anti viral? Where did this come from? Should I stop the anti fungal, too? Can I give infant ibuprofen to help with the pain, or meloxicam?

    Thank you for your replies.

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    Also, I am not using the iodine anymore, only the antifungal cream

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnd5 View Post
    Also, I am not using the iodine anymore, only the antifungal cream
    POX is a virus not a fungus.

    Do you have reason for AB and antifungal cream ??

    Island Rehabber is Pox pro so hope she comes back with comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by island rehabber View Post
    Can you get Valtrex or Zovirax or any form of acyclovir ASAP? Maybe friends or family have some to treat a form of herpes. HE needs an antiviral and if you catch this early you can stop its progression. Poor sweetie...
    Thank you for your reply. No one has any of those meds. Can I use Abreva?

    Also, would infant ibuprofen or meloxicam help with the pain? I am getting desperate. It seems to be starting to spread, again.

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    Can you post an updated picture. Pox is painful especially when lesions begin to erupt. (that's when infection might set in.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnd5 View Post
    I have a 2 1/2 to 3 week old infant, weighing 34g, with lesions on left side of his body. They started as a vague spot and have developed into horrible, crusty lesions. I will try to attach pictures from when I first noticed it to today, but not very computer literate. So far, I have done 3 days of Baytril BID at .015cc, cleaned with hibiclens, and applied diluted betadine. I changed the antibiotic to Clavamox .014cc, (the mg/ml is 3mg/30ml), on the 4th day. I am cleaning with hibiclens BID, and applying an antifungal cream on the lesions. He gets Benebac 2 x day. The lesions are not wet at this point, but very thick and look very painful.

    Today is the 6th day that this going on. What am I doing wrong and what can I do to help him? He is still taking his formula, peeing and pooping, (although a bit runny), great. Can I give him meloxicam or infant ibuprofen in addition t0 the antibiotics?

    Please help. I don't want to lose this little guy. He is fighting so hard.
    Hi Tnd:
    How did you happen to get possession of this Little Squirrel? What was his history before he became fortunate enough to find you? I don't want to get you confused or frustrated with multiple readers posting a number of different possibilities but I will just offer my opinion and take a chance. I am not so certain that this is Pox. From viewing your photos; it appears to me that your little Squirrel has some crusted lesions on the left hind limb with significant generalized swelling of that limb. I wonder if this may be the result of an insect bite or exposure to an allergenic plant or substance such as poison ivy! If this is the case as I suspect, the swelling may be from the allergic reaction itself and/or from development of a secondary infection!

    Again, I am not saying that I can rule-out Pox but there are other possibilities and I do suspect this. An infection can also be coexistent with Pox!

    I would suggest trying an antihistamine such as Benadryl and I will send a PM to you with a "cheat sheet" for dosing of both Benadry and Ibuprofen. Please read the specifics as to the formulations of both! The Ibuprofen dosing is based upon using the Infant Ibuprofen 50mg per 1.25ml of solution and the Benadryl is based upon the Children's solution of 12.5mg per 5ml of solution.

    **The only difference I have is with frequency of Ibuprofen dosing and I would recommend dosing Ibuprofen (or any other NSAID) NO more often than every 8 hours and even every 10-12 hours would be a consideration!**

    Also, while we don't put dosing instructions or current dosing information on the Open Board (we use Private Messages to convey this information); I am glad that you did post yours as I have some concerns and questions about this as well. An Admin can remove the dosing stuff but I would like to pose some questions right now while here as I am also at work with limited time). Please send by Private Message to me and other who are helping you the answers to the following questions ASAP; 1) Did you mix the Clavamox yourself to get the concentration of 3mg/30ml? 2) what was the original strength of the Clavamox and what was the formulation (tablets or powder), 3) Are you certain about the weight of your Squirrel and and of the dose you are giving of the antibiotic (specifically 0.014ml of a 3mg/30ml suspension)? I'm not sure how you will be able to accurately administer 0.014ml of this suspension and much more to the point is that IF this is in a concentration of 3mg per 30ml of water, there is only 0.1mg of Clavamox in each ml. IF you are giving only 0.014ml of this suspension, you are giving only 0.0014mg of the Clavamox (3mg/30ml=0.1mg/1ml, 0.014 x 0.1=0.0014mg)! If this is the case, the Clavamox is being severely underdosed! This is almost a homeopathic dose of Clavamox and will NOT be effective as an antibiotic!

    What is this little one getting for formula and how much and how often and what are his "living arrangements?" General care, hydration and nutrition are all of the utmost importance! Here is a link to Henry's Pets very valuable information on baby Squirrel Care. The one major exception would be to AVOID using Fox Valley 32/40! Please read pages 1-3 IMMEDIATELY! https://www.henryspets.com/1-baby-squirrel-care-guide/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamtheSquirrel2018 View Post
    ... I will just offer my opinion and take a chance. I am not so certain that this is Pox.

    I tend to be in agreement with Sam and am not so sure this is pox. Other possibilities may be worth exploring. Are there any lesions on the front feet or face / ears? Posting pics of the face and footsies may be of benefit.

    (I am not removing the dosing just yet... only temporarily... until the clarifications are completed as that is very important . critical).
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    Is there a possibility this baby may have gotten a very bad sunburn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky View Post
    Is there a possibility this baby may have gotten a very bad sunburn?

    Spanky, I really don't think so. He was covered in dirt and showed no signs of it when he was cleaned up. Also, sunburn would not spread, would it? Thank you.

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