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    Good afternoon, TSB! Does anyone know if this is urine scald? My neuro squirrel, Jacob, first developed this rash on the inside of his left leg and the back of his scrotum on the left side, on January 5th. That is when the second picture you see here was taken. The black part you see on his leg in the second picture is his fur matted together. Jacob mostly sleeps on his left side, and urinates on himself when he sleeps. Sometimes when he gets up in the morning, or after a nap, his entire left leg is just soaked with urine. This rash is only on his left leg, and the back of his scrotum on the left. It is not anywhere else on his body. For these reasons I thought this was most likely urine scald.
    So, I started treating it with A and D ointment, and it cleared right up in 2 days. Since then, I have just been putting either A and D ointment, a different all natural baby ointment, or coconut oil on Jacob twice a day on all his exposed skin to keep his skin from drying out, and to create a barrier between his skin and the urine. Jacob got this same rash again, in the same places, earlier this month. So I just started putting the A and D ointment on the rash more often than twice a day. Again, it cleared right up in 2 days. And now, he’s got the same rash AGAIN, in the same places, but the A and D ointment is not clearing it up one bit this time. He’s now had this approximately a week. The first picture you see here was taken this morning.
    I read on here the best thing for urine scald is Silvadene. Someone also posted a link to where you can buy it without a prescription. So I ordered it, and it will be here Saturday. I am not putting any kind of ointment on the rash anymore because it seemed like it was actually just making it a little worse. I also read somewhere on here you can put Neo Pedef powder on it. I do already have that so I am putting that on the rash while I wait for the Silvadene to arrive. It maybe helps a little, but not much, though. I have tried finding pictures of what urine scald in squirrels looks like, but I cannot seem to find any. Could this possibly be something other than urine scald? I cannot find any pictures on the internet that look exactly like this rash Jacob has.
    I keep him as clean and dry as possible, and I keep his bedding as clean and dry as possible. I have been keeping the fur on his left leg trimmed really short, so it doesn’t get matted together and ball up anymore, like it is in the second picture. I do not keep Jacob in a cage. He likes to sleep under a blanket or a pillow on my bed, or on the floor beside my bed, if he’s feeling particularly independent. But underneath him are doggie whelping mats, or other materials, that are designed to quickly absorb liquid and keep the area dry. They do work pretty well. And when he urinates in his sleep, he scoots away from that spot onto a clean, dry spot. I just don’t think it wakes him up every single time he urinates in his sleep. And when he sleeps on his left side like he does, the urine still gets all over his left leg, and absorbs into his fur, before it gets absorbed into his doggie whelping mat, and away from his body.
    I know this has got to be so uncomfortable for my sweet little man, and it just breaks my heart that nothing is working for him. If this is urine scald, how often should I put the Silvadene on Jacob? Thank you for any help and advice anyone can give me.❤����
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    A couple of things jump out at me...the first, stop using puppy pads. There have been instances where the chemicals inside the pads have caused problems for squirrels. Here is a link from the post. https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/...as-Cage-Liners! If you need something absorbent for him to sleep on buy some bed pads for people and use them.

    Second, this almost looks like it could be a yeast infection, similar to thrush. Whether it’s fungal or bacterial, get a bottle of betadine (generic is fine). Dilute about 25 drops in 1/4 cup of warm water. Use a cotton pad and apply it to the areas several times a day. There’s no need to rinse it, it will dry and not be sticky. Until your silvadene arrives don’t put anything else on it and see what it does. If it’s fungal, ointments like A&D can cause it to get worse because it traps the moisture in.

    Poor baby. . Please keep us updated and we’ll recommend something else if you see no improvement in 24 hrs.

    I also have a vet I can send the picture to and see if she has an idea of what it can be, if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1959 View Post
    A couple of things jump out at me...the first, stop using puppy pads. There have been instances where the chemicals inside the pads have caused problems for squirrels. Here is a link from the post. https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/...as-Cage-Liners! If you need something absorbent for him to sleep on buy some bed pads for people and use them.

    Second, this almost looks like it could be a yeast infection, similar to thrush. Whether itís fungal or bacterial, get a bottle of betadine (generic is fine). Dilute about 25 drops in 1/4 cup of warm water. Use a cotton pad and apply it to the areas several times a day. Thereís no need to rinse it, it will dry and not be sticky. Until your silvadene arrives donít put anything else on it and see what it does. If itís fungal, ointments like A&D can cause it to get worse because it traps the moisture in.

    Poor baby. . Please keep us updated and weíll recommend something else if you see no improvement in 24 hrs.

    I also have a vet I can send the picture to and see if she has an idea of what it can be, if you like.
    I read the link you posted about the pee pads, and oh my gosh! That is such a heartbreaking story! I had no idea those things were so harmful. This is life saving information to have, and I know we can never be too careful about having such precious, delicate little lives in our hands, such as squirrels.
    That being said, after reading the link you posted, I am a little confused. It is my understanding that the post is referring to those disposable pads that come with a whole bunch of them in a package, you just use one time, then discard. For lack of better words that come to mind, at this moment, to describe them, but the ďpadĒ side (the side you lay on) looks like itís made of a cotton type material, kind of like diapers and feminine hygiene products are made of, correct? If so, thatís not what Iím using for Jacob to sleep on. I would describe these as more of a mat than a pad. These came four in a pack, but you can also purchase them individually. They have a quilted top made of 100% brushed polyester, a polyester/rayon middle, a non slip PVC bottom, and they donít have any chemicals in them. They are also reusable, and machine washable. The washing instructions say they can go in the dryer, too, but I just hang mine over the shower rod to dry. I just donít want to take the chance of the PVC bottom accidentally melting. They dry pretty quickly hanging over the shower rod, as they are almost completely dry, anyway, when they come straight out of the washing machine. Yes, I do have to wash them a lot, instead of just throwing them away. But after reading that post, it sounds like the disposable ones are really, really bad for squirrels.
    A yeast infection?? If it is, I wonder how in the world Jacob would have gotten a yeast infection?! Yes, that would be awesome if you could send these pictures to your vet to see what she thinks, if itís not too much to ask. I do have an awesome exotic vet that I take Jacob to, and his care is the most important thing to me. But if this is something I can treat at home, I need to do that, at this point, because Jacob had to have surgery in late February to have part of a toe amputated due to his right back foot getting caught in the carpet. My vet was gracious enough to allow me to make payments on that surgery, and I am still trying to pay that off. So, thank you so much for offering to send Jacobís pictures to your vet. I really appreciate it. Poor Jacob just canít catch a break, it seems lately.
    I donít have any Betadine here at home. But my boyfriend is going to pick some up on his way home from work. He wonít get home until around 6pm, so I wonít be able to try the Betadine on Jacobís owies until he gets home. In the meantime, I gently cleaned him up again, and dried him off as best I could before he went to bed, but I didnít put anything at all on him. Jacobís poor skin on his left leg and groin area is so red, raw and irritated. Now that you mention it, it does seem like the A&D ointment was tapping moisture, definitely making it worse. Thank you so much for your response. I really, really appreciate it!😁
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    Yes, those puppy pads should be fine. I have sent the picture to my vets office. I will post when she responds.

    In the meantime what antibiotics do you have on hand? This could be a staph infection that will require treatment with antibiotics.

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    Silvadene works miracles on urine scald. Keep it on and replenish as often as possible. You'll see results within 24 hrs, usually. I have seen urine scald like this -- so bad it looks like squirrel pox! But it can be treated very effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by island rehabber View Post
    Silvadene works miracles on urine scald. Keep it on and replenish as often as possible. You'll see results within 24 hrs, usually. I have seen urine scald like this -- so bad it looks like squirrel pox! But it can be treated very effectively.
    Yes! That's exactly what I was thinking the owies kind of looked like, is squirrel pox! When I was searching the internet for pictures that even came close to looking like Jacobs's owies, squirrel pox is the closest thing I saw that looked similar. But he only has those owies on his left leg, and underneath the left side of his scrotum, which is the area that gets peed on all the time. Which is why I suspected it might be urine scald.

    The Silvadene is arriving sometime tomorrow (Saturday). When it gets here, I will definitely put it on him, and keep it on him as often as possible. Thankfully, I work from home so I am here with Jacob all day and all night. Thank you so much for your response. I really appreciate it!❤

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1959 View Post
    Yes, those puppy pads should be fine. I have sent the picture to my vets office. I will post when she responds.

    In the meantime what antibiotics do you have on hand? This could be a staph infection that will require treatment with antibiotics.

    Betadyne wipe down's will kick staph's butt. When I first moved to Maine all those years ago, I lived for a while with a dear friend and her husband who were, to my great surprise and horror, absolute...I want to say pigs but that isn't fair... Just nuts. I woke very early one morning from what I thought was a dream with this odd, swishing noise next to me. It wasn't a dream. It was a good sized rat, on the pillow next to my head, trying to jump from the pillow to the windowsill above and not making it and landing back on the pillow. The swish was it's little nails on the pillowcase. So yeah, nice place. I also got a raging case of staph all over my legs there, and the doctor prescribed me Betadyne wipedowns for it. It worked like magic and is another reason I am povidone iodine's biggest booster!

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    OMG! Iíd have heart failure! I REALLY donít like rats. My daughter canít understand how I can adore squirrels and dislike rats so much. I donít know, but to me a squirrel is NOT a rat with a fluffy tail and a better suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CritterMom View Post
    Betadyne wipe down's will kick staph's butt. When I first moved to Maine all those years ago, I lived for a while with a dear friend and her husband who were, to my great surprise and horror, absolute...I want to say pigs but that isn't fair... Just nuts. I woke very early one morning from what I thought was a dream with this odd, swishing noise next to me. It wasn't a dream. It was a good sized rat, on the pillow next to my head, trying to jump from the pillow to the windowsill above and not making it and landing back on the pillow. The swish was it's little nails on the pillowcase. So yeah, nice place. I also got a raging case of staph all over my legs there, and the doctor prescribed me Betadyne wipedowns for it. It worked like magic and is another reason I am povidone iodine's biggest booster!
    Oh, my gosh!! That's so terrible! That's definitely good information to know...but I'm sorry that happened! I would have FREAKED out if I woke up to a rat on the pillow next to my head! Rats can be nasty, filthy little creatures, obviously. It's not their fault. They can't help it. They just are! When I was in my early 20's, I had 2 pet rats, who I loved dearly. But these were domestic rats. Wild rats are another story, entirely. In 2017, when I was living in a different house, a couple of rats got into the house, even though we kept the house clean. Well, 2 rats multiplied very quickly, and then there were dozens of them living in the walls, the sunroom, and the garage!! It was so disturbing and disgusting!! They peed and pooped on everything, they chewed up everything, and utterly destroyed the walls, parts of the house, and a lot of my personal property before we could get them all out of the house!! And it took a long time to get them all out! I have never in my life smelled anything worse than their pee!! We were very lucky we didn't get sick with anything because of those rats!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1959 View Post
    Yes, those puppy pads should be fine. I have sent the picture to my vets office. I will post when she responds.

    In the meantime what antibiotics do you have on hand? This could be a staph infection that will require treatment with antibiotics.
    Oh, thank you so much for sending the pictures to your vet's office. I really appreciate it! I do have Baytril so I can start treatment with antibiotics if need be. I have been using the Betadine and water solution you recommended since 6pm last night (Thursday night). So it's been over 24 hours now, and there is no change in the appearance of Jacob's owies. They haven't gotten any better, but thankfully, they haven't gotten any worse, either. The Silvadene is arriving sometime tomorrow (Saturday), so I will just keep using the Betadine and water solution on him until the Silvadene gets here, if you think I should keep trying it. Thank you, again, for your responses, and for sending the pictures to your vet!❤

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