Squirrel fell, barely moves after 24hrs - Help needed asap

[LanSeaAir]

Have raised many squirrels with pneumonia and injurys from falls as babies but this one is 230g with hair. The people who found thought it would have died but since it didn't they called us for help today since no vets where open. They did administer droplets of water So at 6pm est in Florida we treated as if it had MBD. So far have been able to administer 1cc of water along with 100mg elemental calcium AS A PASTE. Will dose tums again at 10pm. In meantime squirrel doesnt SEEM TO move at all but breathing normal and is able to move mouth to take liquid. Noticed she had some blood in urine and has pooped normal poop but a good amount has come out during last couple hours. We have on blanket with heating pad in quiet room.

Should I start antibiotics cause of blood in urine? And since I have formula would it be ok to administer some for nutrition? If so how much and how often. She does open and close eyes and is resting.

[Spanky]

Is MBD suspected because the people who found it have had it for a while?

Or is was the baby found by the only yesterday... in which case I would doubt MBD and be more concerned about a fall injury, cat caught or other trauma.

[stepnstone]

Have raised many squirrels with pneumonia and injurys from falls as babies but this one is 230g with hair. The people who found thought it would have died but since it didn't they called us for help today since no vets where open. They did administer droplets of water So at 6pm est in Florida we treated as if it had MBD. So far have been able to administer 1cc of water along with 100mg elemental calcium AS A PASTE. Will dose tums again at 10pm. In meantime squirrel doesnt SEEM TO move at all but breathing normal and is able to move mouth to take liquid. Noticed she had some blood in urine and has pooped normal poop but a good amount has come out during last couple hours. We have on blanket with heating pad in quiet room.

Should I start antibiotics cause of blood in urine? And since I have formula would it be ok to administer some for nutrition? If so how much and how often. She does open and close eyes and is resting.

If this baby is like this from a fall my first concern would be pain management
and administer a med to address pain and inflammation.
I would not jump to an antibiotic at this time, internal injuries is always a concern
however blood in urine is not so unusual after a fall. I would want to see if urine
clears up after a few hydration's before considering an antibiotic for an unknown.

[LanSeaAir]

The squirrel has no sign of external injuries, no bloody nose. Just fell out of oak tree onto there back walkway. They noticed it but didn't see the fall. They put in box and notice it flipped over on own over night while it was outside in protected area. Tomorrow will probably bring into a vet if still not moving will not have a choice. Figured it was safe to treat for MBD just in case And didn't want to take any chances since this is a wild ground squirrel. I might have something for pain management...let me see and if somebody can help with dose

[LanSeaAir]

The poop is normal and has pooped a lot. Just got her to pee again and will keep eye on color change. How often should I hydrate and if not dehydrated can I administer formula watered down? I am lucky to get 1cc every hour but takes a bit to get her to swallow

[RockyPops]

Is there a chance she could have gotten electrocuted or into poison?

[LanSeaAir]

Most vets around here won't treat they would just put down so I don't mind doing the work. So any advice is greatly appreciated to save this baby. I am not handling much except for hydrating or feeding. Figured the less I moved the better but she did like her head rubbed or under arm I got a little stretch. She has made zero sounds.

[stepnstone]

The poop is normal and has pooped a lot. Just got her to pee again and will keep eye on color change. How often should I hydrate and if not dehydrated can I administer formula watered down? I am lucky to get 1cc every hour but takes a bit to get her to swallow

I wouldn't water the formula down, she needs the nutrition.
What is the formula you will be giving?
If hydration is necessary give in between feeding.
Drop by drop if necessary, you don't want to risk aspiration if
she is slow on swallowing.
Are you addressing her pain/inflammation?

[LanSeaAir]

Is there a chance she could have gotten electrocuted or into poison?

What would be the signs of a poisoned squirrel?

[LanSeaAir]

I wouldn't water the formula down, she needs the nutrition.
What is the formula you will be giving?
If hydration is necessary give in between feeding.
Drop by drop if necessary, you don't want to risk aspiration if
she is slow on swallowing.
Are you addressing her pain/inflammation?

Ok I have Esbilac puppy milk replacement powder with probiotics.

For pain I have on hand rimadyl 25 mg chewable tablet. Would need to know dosing for that.

[RockyPops]

I'm sorry, I don't know. I'm just throwing ideas out to think about.

Do you have a scale to get a weight? For med dosing?

Thank you for caring for this baby!

She also needs a name!

[redwuff]

Can you get a weight on this guy. What is strength of rimadyl?

[redwuff]

There is a great squirrel vet in Port Orange, Florida. This baby needs to be seen by a vet. Dr Emerson is excellent!

[LanSeaAir]

I'm sorry, I don't know. I'm just throwing ideas out to think about.

Do you have a scale to get a weight? For med dosing?

Thank you for caring for this baby!

She also needs a name!

230 grams is Veda's weight. I also have baby aspirins if that helps with squirrels. ALSO HOW OFTEN should I try formula. Figured I would do one more b4 I call it a night then start again tomorrow with small amounts. I am using miracle nipples with 3 cc syringe and have a 1.0cc for med dosing

[redwuff]

Give me a min and will send dosing in a pm

[RockyPops]

There are a lot of knowledgeable on this board to help you. They have been very busy this fall. Please be patient. They WILL help you. And thank you again for helping Veda.

I am NOT an expert.

I would think that hydration is more important right now than nutrition. And the experts on here are not recommending
Esbilac any longer due to problems with a formula change from the factory.

And, I believe INFANT ibuprofen is the go to for pain for these little guys. Verify prior to giving though. I'm not sure about aspirin.

Praying for you and Veda.

Please keep us posted on her condition. And keep checking back here often.

[redwuff]

Dosing sent. Rockypops, I looked up in the rat guide and they can do rimadyl. I would prefer seeing this baby started on prednisone. Finder will let us know if they have that.

[redwuff]

I bet you have the old Esbilac. Would you take a picture of the front of your can. As RP said we have had horrible issues with Esbilac this fall. I bet your can is an older can. That would be good. Have you kept it in your freezer. If not, throw it away. Powders go rancid fast.

Your squirrel is an older baby that could do well on formula still. I bet she just came from mom. Someone said that hydration is more important. I agree. If your Esbilac is still good, start her on that in the morning. No more MBD treatment. This girl most likely has an injured spine. We will work with you on that in the morning.

Start her 50/50 water/ and give her what she will take.
Any chance getting her to a good vet.

[redwuff]

Gabapentin would also help with pain.

[LanSeaAir]

I bet you have the old Esbilac. Would you take a picture of the front of your can. As RP said we have had horrible issues with Esbilac this fall. I bet your can is an older can. That would be good. Have you kept it in your freezer. If not, throw it away. Powders go rancid fast.

Your squirrel is an older baby that could do well on formula still. I bet she just came from mom. Someone said that hydration is more important. I agree. If your Esbilac is still good, start her on that in the morning. No more MBD treatment. This girl most likely has an injured spine. We will work with you on that in the morning.

Start her 50/50 water/ and give her what she will take.
Any chance getting her to a good vet.

I will update everyone tomorrow on Veda. So far she is nibbling on block if I hold in my hand. Left in picture is one that is open and the right one is my backup in freezer. I mark dates after they are opened.

ALL I know is to get the formula with blue band across top however looks like my right can is missing writing across top which hopefully is a label error. Didn't notice til now. So are these ok?