10 yo seizuring suspect MBD but could be too much D3

[Miss Suzy Joy Button]

She began seizuring yesterday. I have CBD in her. It has helped. She was getting biscuits but they are not good apparently. I supplement with some D3 because we moved and she can't be outside or get sun. WOuld you start MBD treament? or worry about hypercalcemia. I don't know what to do.

[Javarat]

We would need more info about her diet and any prior medical problems and medications you have used to make the best suggestions.
I note you said in the title she is 10 years old. Is she non releasable because of physical or social conditions?

[Miss Suzy Joy Button]

We would need more info about her diet and any prior medical problems and medications you have used to make the best suggestions.
I note you said in the title she is 10 years old. Is she non releasable because of physical or social conditions?

She's on squirrel nutrition biscuits recipe and now I know it is not good. MBD 4 years ago. seemed to get fine again. toenails snag. increased urination. non releasable due to physical.

[CritterMom]

With her background I would start the MBD protocol YESTERDAY. Do you have any calcium without vitamin D added? If not, get some Tums.

[Miss Suzy Joy Button]

Thank you everyone for your care and responses. I am new to this board and it has been a frightening 3 days. Miss Suzy was raised from 9 days old until release. A cat got her within the first 10 days. She came to me for help. Nursed her back to health with antibiotics and she would not leave. She would hide under my hair. I didn't force her to go. The hole in her belly healed and her tail had a chunk out of the tip. She used to eat calcium tablets, one a day. They were mint flavored and had rosemary in them. They are from a wellness company. She ate banana flavored cuttle bone too. At the age of 7 years she decided she didn't like the calcium tablets anymore and I could no longer find banana flavored cuttle bone. She wouldn't eat other flavors or plain. I knew nothing about blocks. Within a year she had a seizure one day and I got online to research why that might happen and found Henry's. I got her squared away with much work and force feeding and life was good. I tried numerous flavors of blocks and she would eat them with constant begging and restricting food on my part. It was miserable because up to this time food time was fun! When I moved, I fed them to the wildlife squirrels because I had a freezer of blocks she would not eat. I thought maybe another company might have something. I came upon squirrelnutrition.com and found a recipe. I made my own from Bill's recipe. I also found online a humane farm that harvested elk antlers and she liked those. I bought the calcium powder from Henry's and put the powder in any food she got such as avocados. She was doing well for the first year I began this new recipe. Later I purchased the bags of mix from Bill, to make myself without having to buy the ingredients separately. I think this is where things went awry. She liked the biscuits and they became the mainstay of her diet. As you can imagine, I was thrilled, thinking she liked them and was getting great nutrition. It obviously wasn't the best nutrition. By now she had turned 9 years old. I saw signs of things I was sad about but blamed on age. The reason I went to age is because I thought I was giving her almost a solid diet of these awesome squirrel biscuits with everything she needed. I supplemented with elk antlers, powdered calcium sprinkled on avocados and she got all kinds of fruits, vegetables, in season dandelion, maple leaves, clover, honeysuckle, roses, and daisies. As a treat only, she got acorns and nuts. Little did I know the mix was no good. I have not found a vet who can help me and the rehabber I knew years ago had retired. I then moved last October. She had turned 9 in August. The housing is temporary and unfortunately there was no nice place for playing outside or natural sun. There is no privacy. I bought a reptile light but then was told that would not be good for her. I knew she needed D3 from sun and she was clearly not my normal happy squirrel. I would give her D3 oil on her biscuits now and then to supplement what I thought she was not getting from being outside. When I lived in the mountains she was out or by the sunny window everyday weather would allow. This new place does not allow for that. She started out Monday, 8/5/19 normal. Although normal had become sad. She would eat and drink and sleep. She would want to play but then couldn't really do it for long. She couldn't jump like she did and her toenails snagged on everything. I blamed it on her not being able to go outside and climb. She increased urination. She lost interest in eating her favorite avocados. On Monday afternoon she came out to play in her playroom, which is in the same room as my home office. I divide it so she is safe from wires and i can work and be with her too and she can be out free to play in her playroom area. She jumped off her little porch onto the floor and that was it. She appeared to freeze. I jumped up and went to her and she had a seizure. It was horrifying. She bit her leg and her tongue and was bleeding. After the 5th seizure in the middle of the night I gave her a drop of CBD oil in half a teaspoon of water. She had two more seizures but they were 20 seconds long, as opposed to the 2 minute ones she was having. I looked for old numbers and websites and called Lee at Henry's. The one drop of CBD is for a 10 pound cat but my niece, who is an RN, was researching online for me about squirrels and contacted the vet with the CBD company that my niece sells for. I was told to do it to stop the seizures. I gave the first drop at 9 pm Monday evening and the second drop at 5 am Tuesday morning. She has not had a seizure since 7am Tuesday, morning 8/6/19. She continues to get one drop every 12 hours. I will do this until I feel her nutrition is able to sustain her. Tuesday that was all she had as she was now paralyzed in the back end and just laying there. I was trying to find a vet and rehabber to help me to get her bloodwork for calcium and D3 levels, kidney functions, etc. I didn't know if it was hypercalcemia or hypocalcemia. One needs calcium and the other needs a calcium blocker. I didn't want to treat without medical help. By late afternoon it was clear she couldn't go to Laurel, MD for the wonderful rehabber who offered to meet me at the vet's office. The outpouring of kindness has been amazing. I had to treat her in the dark. Rehabbers almost all said treat for MBD NOW. I did. She did not want the paste of calcium and applesauce (her favorite fruit). The rehabber called me to check on her. He said tough love. Mix the calcium in water and add sweetener. I said I have clover honey. He said perfect and with her having all those seizures, the sugar would be good too. I added the evening drop of CBD oil as well. I thought it would be the usual glass dropper full struggle. Well she grabbed the dropper and drank as fast as she could. From there she tried to bite the tip of the glass off because it wasn't coming out fast enough. I switched to a plastic syringe. We are now at today, Wednesday, 8/7/19. She takes her calcium clover honey water mix with ease, she gets one drop CBD oil morn and night. She ate a shelled hazelnut enthusiastically at 7:30 am. She also had 1.5 thumbnail size pieces of avocado. She held it in between her paws on the bed as she can't sit up. She tires quickly and I put her back to bed. She is in my home office with me and I have her on the daybed where I am sleeping with her for the time being. In other words it is an eat, drink, sleep situation, just like it was when she was an infant. When she wakes up, she has yawned three time today which is normal unlike yesterday and she tries to stretch. She wants massaged. I do of course. At 1:30 pm she had a half thumbnail size piece of crust and cheese from pizza. Of course the calcium water is all day as the hydration source. I put her in her litter box (a metal pan) with paper. She chewed on the side of the pan which is her normal ritual before going potty. It's also why she has a metal litter box. At 3:15 pm she responded to touch on her back legs and tail. They moved. I no sooner got her to bed and at 3:30 pm she began to move under the blankets. This doesn't happen as a rule. She had moved out of the way because she had gone poo. There were 5 pieces. One crumbled like a dry cookie but all others were perfect and no crystals that I was told to watch for. She has since made an effort to wash and she has gone poo 2 more times. The last one was small and a bit dry. NOTE: The pads on her feet had become grey and flat. I thought it was age. Today I thought they were swollen but no. They are full, round and pink. Her tongue and mouth had become pale and today her tongue is beautiful and pink too. At 7:30 pm she ate a piece of water melon, thumbnail size. That is normal size for her. She wanted the second piece but fell asleep, much like a baby would in a high chair. She had been sleeping on her side stretched out. Normal enough but she usually does that squirrel circle to sleep. She is doing it as we speak and snoring. By midnight I will wake her for a small bit of calcium water she has left for this day. I will begin at 6:30 am tomorrow morning with her food intake again. PLEASE READ THIS PART: There has been no pee. [/B] I would say there has been about 4-5 teaspoons of water since Tuesday evening given to her as her calcium water. I tried stimulating her and I hold her back legs in her potty. I left her pee on the paper from Monday before the first seizure so she can smell that is hers. That's her story. Any suggestions are welcomed. Prayers are appreciated. Professional advice is needed. I did this to her without knowing I did this to her. I told her I will make it right. I love her with my whole heart and all of my soul. She will be 10 years old on Friday, 8/9/2019. Thank you for reading about my Miss Suzy Joy Button.

[lukaslolamaus]

It sounds like she is dehydrated, you need to get her to drink.
I would offer her water (maybe adding a tiny bit of honey for flavor) by syringe, pedialyte or homemade pedialyte.
Have you ordered Henry blocks for her? They have a new hazelnut flavor block now.
Diet is crucial and she can't have anymore nuts while she is on the mbd protocol.
I love your girl's name by the way.

[SammysMom]

Keep on following the mbd treatment. You've got this! You have given her this long and I'm sure there is more to come...

[stepnstone]

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