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    Hi everyone. Ive got 4 babies right now. I'm unsure of age but they are just starting to open their eyes. One of them has become very lethargic since yesterday. I thought maybe she was just tired but now I'm getting worried. She is 54 g and I feed her 5% body weight of formula. The formula is 2 parts powdered esbilac (the probiotic one with the dog on the label) and 1part powdered ensure. The mix is 1 part powder formula mix to 2 parts water. I feed them every 3-4 hours usually. The other 3 are doing fine. The only thing I've recently changed is adding probiotics to their formula bc of loose poops. The lethargic squirrels poops are soft but better than they were before probiotics.
    She is eating but not the whole 2.5ccs anymore and she isn't as ravenous as the others.
    Please let me know if you need more info. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalokaKana View Post
    Hi everyone. Ive got 4 babies right now. I'm unsure of age but they are just starting to open their eyes. One of them has become very lethargic since yesterday. I thought maybe she was just tired but now I'm getting worried. She is 54 g and I feed her 5% body weight of formula. The formula is 2 parts powdered esbilac (the probiotic one with the dog on the label) and 1part powdered ensure. The mix is 1 part powder formula mix to 2 parts water. I feed them every 3-4 hours usually. The other 3 are doing fine. The only thing I've recently changed is adding probiotics to their formula bc of loose poops. The lethargic squirrels poops are soft but better than they were before probiotics.
    She is eating but not the whole 2.5ccs anymore and she isn't as ravenous as the others.
    Please let me know if you need more info. Any ideas?
    Is this one of the babies you were treating for aspiration pneumonia?
    Can you post this one's picture?
    Are you hydrating her?
    Did you get the proper formula? Sounds like your still feeding the mix you were left with.
    Ensure is a nutritional supplement and meal replacement. If you got/have the proper formula, there is no need for Ensure being in it.
    You had five babies, four were doing fine. Now you have four, three are doing fine.
    Do you see the pattern here?
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    Yes you're right
    So just use straight esbilac powder with 2 parts powder 1 part water?
    She feels hudrated, I did the punch test. She is not one of the pneumonia babies and does not have any clicking in her breaths. This is a pic after feeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalokaKana View Post
    Yes you're right
    So just use straight esbilac powder with 2 parts powder 1 part water?
    She feels hudrated, I did the punch test. She is not one of the pneumonia babies and does not have any clicking in her breaths. This is a pic after feeding.
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    Sorry, typos, I did a pinch test on her and she looks hydrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalokaKana View Post
    Yes you're right
    So just use straight esbilac powder with 2 parts powder 1 part water?
    She feels hudrated, I did the punch test. She is not one of the pneumonia babies and does not have any clicking in her breaths. This is a pic after feeding.
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    NO, one part powdered esbilac formula to 2 parts water.
    How were you fixing the esbilac powder before?
    No ensure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    NO, one part powdered esbilac formula to 2 parts water.
    How were you fixing the esbilac powder before?
    So sorry that's what I meant. Always 1powder, 2 water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalokaKana View Post
    So sorry that's what I meant. Always 1powder, 2 water.
    I will go buy some esbilac right now and just use that.

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    I would do baby's next couple feedings with just hydration to flush it's system.
    Then start on the proper formula, no additives!
    I would also flush the systems of the other two before they wind up the same way.
    I would defiantly get them all on the correct formula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stepnstone View Post
    I would do baby's next couple feedings with just hydration to flush it's system.
    Then start on the proper formula, no additives!
    I would also flush the systems of the other two before they wind up the same way.
    I would defiantly get them all on the correct formula.
    OK will do! How often should I feed them water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalokaKana View Post
    OK will do! How often should I feed them water?
    Do just water for the next 2 feedings, you can add just a touch/TINY of honey for flavor.
    After that, then start the esbilac formula, ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    Do just water for the next 2 feedings, you can add just a touch/TINY of honey for flavor.
    After that, then start the esbilac formula, ok?
    Yes ma'am! Thank you again ❤️

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalokaKana View Post
    Yes ma'am! Thank you again ❤️
    Anytime, we're here to help.

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    Just one other thing.
    You said that they are just about to open their eyes,
    which would make them ~5 weeks old.
    54 grams is very light for a 5 week old squirrel.
    Also the picture doesn't look like they weigh that little.
    Can you reweigh them again?
    If you have 5 quarters, weigh them too in grams.
    I just want to make sure your scale is working properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    Just one other thing.
    You said that they are just about to open their eyes,
    which would make them ~5 weeks old.
    54 grams is very light for a 5 week old squirrel.
    Also the picture doesn't look like they weigh that little.
    Can you reweigh them again?
    If you have 5 quarters, weigh them too in grams.
    I just want to make sure your scale is working properly.
    I just weighed 5 quarters and it says 28g. Is that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    Just one other thing.
    You said that they are just about to open their eyes,
    which would make them ~5 weeks old.
    54 grams is very light for a 5 week old squirrel.
    Also the picture doesn't look like they weigh that little.
    Can you reweigh them again?
    If you have 5 quarters, weigh them too in grams.
    I just want to make sure your scale is working properly.
    Ah you're right, maybe bc she was moving. I just reweighed her and it's 67. Is that better?
    The others are 70, 60, and the runt who is 48 (I have such a soft spot for him❤️)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalokaKana View Post
    I just weighed 5 quarters and it says 28g. Is that correct?
    Yes that's correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalokaKana View Post
    Ah you're right, maybe bc she was moving. I just reweighed her and it's 67. Is that better?
    The others are 70, 60, and the runt who is 48 (I have such a soft spot for him❤️)
    This still seems really light for these babies.
    Do you weigh them daily?
    At this age, they should be gaining roughly 4-6 grams daily.
    Please tell me again how much are you feeding,
    and how often.
    Are you using a 1 ml syringe?
    Sorry you didn't get an answer from others.
    I went off the board last night, and just got back on,
    and stepnstone was feeling under the weather.

    Edit: My time will be very limited today, so I hope that others
    will help get to the bottom of this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    This still seems really light for these babies.
    Do you weigh them daily?
    At this age, they should be gaining roughly 4-6 grams daily.
    Please tell me again how much are you feeding,
    and how often.
    Are you using a 1 ml syringe?
    Sorry you didn't get an answer from others.
    I went off the board last night, and just got back on,
    and stepnstone was feeling under the weather.

    Edit: My time will be very limited today, so I hope that others
    will help get to the bottom of this too.
    I'll be here after 11am for most of the day.....we do need to remember that these are deep South squirrel babies, so they are much smaller than what we're used to up North. The baby looks to be a healthy weight, but I know what Nancy in NY means. At that age, ours typically weigh about 80-100g, don't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by island rehabber View Post
    The baby looks to be a healthy weight, but I know what Nancy in NY means. At that age, ours typically weigh about 80-100g, don't they?
    Thanks Maura!

    Well to answer your question about the weight. I remember you bringing me an eyes closed baby
    weighing 197 grams. I remember writing in your thread, I didn't know if you brought him here for me
    to babysit, or to release!

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    I went back over my records to check weights upon arrival. All the babies Iíve gotten had eyes opened so I assumed them to be 5-6 weeks old. The weights ranged from 49gr. to mid 50ís. I hope this helps.

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