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    Default The many possible causes of Seizures

    http://www.alternativepethealth.com/seizures.html

    I found this tonight in an old file I hadn't looked at in sometime.

    It is a good reference as to the various causes of seizures.

    "ingestion of those "species-inappropriate" foods, gluten (wheat, notoriously, and some other grains), casein (in cow's milk - not in goat's milk; it isn't the lactose, which goat's milk has lots of too), soy, and (to a slightly lesser extent) corn that can often cause brain seizures (in humans or animals)."
    This has to do allot with Neurotoxins, aka: 'Excitotoxins', that denatured Glutamate, and Aspartates are the key sources of along with sugars, both artificial and natural.

    Soybeans also go through a process that most often includes using Hexane and organic compound, that is a toxin. Sometimes it is in the processing that foods become potentially toxic, not the compounds in the natural foods alone. For in concentrating any source, including natural sugars, lecithin, whey protein, this can occur.

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    I often wonder when I see folks using wheat flour to make boo balls where the idea to do this comes from and how safe it is.

    Thank you for sharing.

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    Wheat is a high source of plant protein. Human diets depend upon both animal and plant protein, with a higher amount of animal protein than that of squirrel diets.

    Wheat also has significant levels of oxalates, glutens, and phytates that lower calcium uptake from the meal it is included with.

    Often more calcium is added to cover the loss these anti-nutrients causes.

    Hulled oats (not just bran) also contains glucans; hulled oats are also low in oxalates. Glucans (not to be confused with glutens) is what makes oatmeal sticky;

    this compound also helps to hold the BB non cooking recipe together, as does Chia Pumpkin Seed oil, and coconut oil.

    Although extra calcium is vital to address the underlying cause for MBD; from current research in rats, magnesium has been confirmed to lend greater support to calcium uptake into the bones when included in the diet daily in close ratio vs. the high ratio noted prior for the 1995 Rat Requirements.

    A closer Calcium to Magnesium is also crucial towards inhibiting seizures during stressful handling, that includes transport, surgical procedures, and post surgical recovery, and even shorter procedures I was told according to a veterinarian that was in the past a member of the board.

    By circa 2000, the FDA changed the RDA for calcium to magnesium (Ca:Mg) ratio in support of preventing the long term development of osteoporosis in humans. Since, veterinarians have started coming out to lend their support of providing a closer (Ca:Mg) ratio in the diets of small pets.

    The form of magnesium found to best cross the blood brain barrier, and so best inhibit seizure activity, yet also lend good support to the uptake of calcium from the diet into the bones, is Magnesium L Threonate.

    'Magnesium L Threonate' by, "Double Wood" contains 36 mg. of elemental magnesium in each capsule. Adding one capsule split fed AM and PM into a wet food in the diet daily, brings up the (Ca:Mg) ratio to the minimum of (3:1) ratio of (Ca:Mg) when rodent block is included at the main source of nutrition.
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    The potential of alleviating, or possibly preventing epileptic seizures in rats with traumatic brain injury with natural high level plant sourced antioxidants.

    Some of the highest sources of anti oxidants on the planet include the wild berries of the Pacific NW, such as lingonberries, huckleberries, and bilberries, that are also higher levels of tannins.

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    This study in rats found that wheat protein produced erratic movement and aggressive behaviors in the group of rats fed wheat protein, that was more exaggerated than the similar behavior produced in rats fed amphetamines in the same study.

    http://orthomolecular.org/library/jo...08n02-p113.pdf

    With most rodent block diet sources, that contain denatured sources of protein that as been extracted by use of chemical detergents, solvents like hexane, which leave traces behind, and/or heating, normal squirrels fed these diet over the short term haven't been found to exhibit erratic movement behaviors, at least not to my present knowledge; non neuro squirrels over the long term haven't either, save perhaps the sudden change to being aggressive years after reaching maturity independence, which some have been found to have occurred, including myself with our then over 3 year old fox squirrel many years ago.

    Still, it begs the question as to whether these same formulas are contributing to increasing seizure activity or not in squirrels prone to seizures from having sustained a TBI (traumatic Brain Injury), or just what has been found in rat research prior showing the seizure activity increases over time. Yet perhaps this has been due to lab rats only living for a very short duration that pursuing this question may not have been considered to test in a study with this particular species. Still I will do some digging to see if there was one that was done, just to see if a conclusion was able to be drawn from the results.

    What has been found in rat studies, was that denatured protein sources that contain neurotoxic amino acids forms that cause hyperactivity in brain cells that caused the cells to be damaged; yet also that amino acids in non denatured protein were found to heal brain damage.
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    https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/d...chemistry).htm

    Denaturation is the alteration of a protein shape through some form of external stress (for example, by applying heat, acid or alkali), in such a way that it will no longer be able to carry out its cellular function.

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    History of excitotoxins, aka: neurotoxins.

    http://americannutritionassociation....ns-taste-kills

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    Methylcobalamin and Adenocobalamin, the latter a precursor of the former, are bio (body) identical forms of Vitamin B-12, that work synergistically (together) in the body.

    These forms of B-12 have been found to improve nerve function in rodents with head trauma, back nerve injuries, B12 deficiency, and to reduce nerve related pain.

    Best price for similar product online: https://globalhealing.com/b12-supplement

    The base of this vegan sourced B 12 is organic glycerin from organic mustard seed oil.

    Product tastes kind of like tart berry mixed with vegetable oil. Natural red color from the base source.

    (1) needle drop from a (1 ml) (1 cc) needle syringe added to food every other day for adult squirrels is the base dose. For weaned juveniles the daily requirement is notably higher.

    For head injuries most effective used soon after having occurred.

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    According to this vet source, though Baytril can be a very useful drug for rodents, as the below article relates, rodents with epilepsy, kidney or liver conditions should not be given Baytril.

    (This includes squirrels that have epileptic seizures; those suspected of having gotten a toxic hit from alfatoxins from a moldy nuts for food that can impairs the liver; those that have recently had MBD no matter what the age, as MBD leads to kidney disease, and lowered kidney function. Also squirrels of very advanced age) See list on page for more details on med interactions for Baytril

    https://squeaksandnibbles.com/baytril-for-rats/

    Rats who should not take Baytril

    Certain rats will always be more sensitive to medications than others.

    Rats suffering from kidney and liver issues are usually excluded from treatment with Baytril.

    Epilepsy does not mix well with Baytril because this drug can stimulate the nervous system. This wouldn’t be a problem in a healthy rat, but could lead to a potentially fatal seizure in one with epilepsy.

    Baytril cannot be used safely with some other medications. Quite a few antibiotics are included in this list.

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