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    Default The many possible causes of Seizures

    http://www.alternativepethealth.com/seizures.html

    I found this tonight in an old file I hadn't looked at in sometime.

    It is a good reference as to the various causes of seizures.

    "ingestion of those "species-inappropriate" foods, gluten (wheat, notoriously, and some other grains), casein (in cow's milk - not in goat's milk; it isn't the lactose, which goat's milk has lots of too), soy, and (to a slightly lesser extent) corn that can often cause brain seizures (in humans or animals)."
    This has to do allot with Neurotoxins, aka: 'Excitotoxins', that denatured Glutamate, and Aspartates are the key sources of along with sugars, both artificial and natural.

    Soybeans also go through a process that most often includes using Hexane and organic compound, that is a toxin. Sometimes it is in the processing that foods become potentially toxic, not the compounds in the natural foods alone. For in concentrating any source, including natural sugars, lecithin, whey protein, this can occur.

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    I often wonder when I see folks using wheat flour to make boo balls where the idea to do this comes from and how safe it is.

    Thank you for sharing.

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    Wheat is a high source of plant protein. Human diets depend upon both animal and plant protein, with a higher amount of animal protein than that of squirrel diets.

    Wheat also has significant levels of oxalates, glutens, and phytates that lower calcium uptake from the meal it is included with.

    Often more calcium is added to cover the loss these anti-nutrients cause; yet when it comes to seizures extra calcium isn't going to prevent them.

    Hulled oats (not just bran) also contains glucans; hulled oats are also low in oxalates. Glucans (not to be confused with glutens) is what makes oatmeal sticky;

    this compound also helps to hold the BB non cooking recipe together, as does Chia Pumpkin Seed oil, and coconut oil.
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    In the wild gray and fox squirrels most heavily rely upon nuts, tree pod seeds, fungi, tree buds and the inner layer of bark from specific food trees for their diets, which provide them high amounts of plant protein. Animal protein sources, that they are known to also consume, are relied upon to a far lesser extent; these include: insects, insect larva, carrion, bird eggs, and most rarely birds. In captivity, ground grains, including corn, are used primarily for reason that they are lower in fat than tree grains for captive care diets; yet they are higher in carbs proportionally that the natural grain sources in the tree squirrel wild diet. Using a high amount of animal protein in the diet can work for rehabbing, but isn't an optimal main source of protein to use for use in NR diets. Hulled Oats (no bran) are a good secondary source in place of wheat.
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    The potential of alleviating, or possibly preventing epileptic seizures in rats with traumatic brain injury with natural high level plant sourced antioxidants.

    Some of the highest sources of anti oxidants on the planet include the wild berries of the Pacific NW, such as lingonberries, huckleberries, and bilberries, that are also higher levels of tannins.

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    This study in rats found that wheat protein produced erratic movement and aggressive behaviors in the group of rats fed wheat protein, that was more exaggerated than the similar behavior produced in rats fed amphetamines in the same study.

    http://orthomolecular.org/library/jo...08n02-p113.pdf

    With most rodent block diet sources, that contain denatured sources of protein that as been extracted by use of chemical detergents, solvents like hexane, which leave traces behind, and/or heating, normal squirrels fed these diet over the short term haven't been found to exhibit erratic movement behaviors, at least not to my present knowledge; non neuro squirrels over the long term haven't either, save perhaps the sudden change to being aggressive years after reaching maturity independence, which some have been found to have occurred, including myself with our then over 3 year old fox squirrel many years ago.

    Still, it begs the question as to whether these same formulas are contributing to increasing seizure activity or not in squirrels prone to seizures from having sustained a TBI (traumatic Brain Injury), or just what has been found in rat research prior showing the seizure activity increases over time. Yet perhaps this has been due to lab rats only living for a very short duration that pursuing this question may not have been considered to test in a study with this particular species. Still I will do some digging to see if there was one that was done, just to see if a conclusion was able to be drawn from the results.

    What has been found in rat studies, was that denatured protein sources that contain neurotoxic amino acids forms that cause hyperactivity in brain cells that caused the cells to be damaged; yet also that amino acids in non denatured protein were found to heal brain damage.
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    For clarification:

    Never has any new source ever been added to the diet for the squirrel that has been given it now for 7 years, save it was first carefully researched prior to doing so as to its potential health effects through present rat and squirrel research. This always towards improving the diet, which is nutritionally based in great part upon rat diet research, and squirrel research, and new findings going forward. At no time was this beloved pet squirrel used as a lab rat in a study just to determine knowledge at the expense this precious creature!

    From the very beginning of the diet, the goal was to improve the health, and appetite through developing a healthier diet geared towards reducing gross obesity, and increasing the squirrel's energy and activity levels, while providing vital nutrients, and additional nutrient sources found to improve health, and avoid potential health problems at the same time. Each time a new source was added to the diet, if observed to cause even a minor issue, or just rejected by the squirrel, even when research had shown the source to have good health benefits in rats, it was discontinued, and another source used in its place if available.

    That the final say as to a source being palatable was always regarded by the squirrel, who made it clear on a few occasions that a source was a no! That said, there were ways found to support the squirrel to eat vegetable sources that they had prior not well accepted, which resulted in increasing their intake of these less preferred food sources, while also improving the nutritional profile of these sources upon their digestion.
    As a result of this shared effort of the researcher, the squommie, and the squirrel, the squirrel is satisfied with their diet, eats it all gone every time no matter what the options fed that day that are included! DF

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    https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/d...chemistry).htm

    Denaturation is the alteration of a protein shape through some form of external stress (for example, by applying heat, acid or alkali), in such a way that it will no longer be able to carry out its cellular function.

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    History of excitotoxins, aka: neurotoxins.

    http://americannutritionassociation....ns-taste-kills

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    Methylcobalamin and Adenocobalamin, the latter a precursor of the former, are bio (body) identical forms of Vitamin B-12, that work synergistically (together) in the body.

    These forms of B-12 have been found to improve nerve function in rodents with head trauma, back nerve injuries, B12 deficiency, and to reduce nerve related pain.

    Best price for similar product online: https://globalhealing.com/b12-supplement

    The base of this vegan sourced B 12 is organic glycerin from organic mustard seed oil.

    Product tastes kind of like tart berry mixed with vegetable oil. Natural red color from the base source.

    (1) needle drop from a (1 ml) (1 cc) needle syringe added to food every other day for adult squirrels is the base dose. For weaned juveniles the daily requirement is notably higher.

    For head injuries most effective used soon after having occurred.

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    According to this vet source, though Baytril can be a very useful drug for rodents, as the below article relates, rodents with epilepsy, kidney or liver conditions should not be given Baytril.

    (This includes squirrels that have epileptic seizures; those suspected of having gotten a toxic hit from alfatoxins from a moldy nuts for food that can impairs the liver; those that have recently had MBD no matter what the age, as MBD leads to kidney disease, and lowered kidney function. Also squirrels of very advanced age) See list on page for more details on med interactions for Baytril

    https://squeaksandnibbles.com/baytril-for-rats/

    Rats who should not take Baytril

    Certain rats will always be more sensitive to medications than others.

    Rats suffering from kidney and liver issues are usually excluded from treatment with Baytril.

    Epilepsy does not mix well with Baytril because this drug can stimulate the nervous system. This wouldn’t be a problem in a healthy rat, but could lead to a potentially fatal seizure in one with epilepsy.

    Baytril cannot be used safely with some other medications. Quite a few antibiotics are included in this list.

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