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    Here a link to the MBD Protocol.

    https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/...-MBD-Treatment

    This is how you start:


    Emergency Treatment for MBD

    Get calcium into the squirrel IMMEDIATELY, not later, not tomorrow, NOW.
    Delaying treatment can cause death or permanent paralysis.

    You will need:

    Tums, rolaids, or calcium supplement (any kind)*
    a syringe or spoon


    Crush one pill and add a little water or fruit juice to make a toothpaste consistency. Use a syringe or spoon to force-feed the mixture.

    After you give the initial dose of calcium, give 100 mg every 4 hours (50 mg for smaller squirrels such as red squirrels, flyers, or juveniles less than 12 weeks old). The first day, getting calcium dosed quickly is more important than the type of calcium or the amount. Going forward, most squirrels will need around 500 mg per day (250 mg for small squirrels). See the “Long-Term Treatment for MBD.”

    *Any kind of calcium pill is okay for the first dose, and you can use Tums for a few days, but long-term it's best to use plain calcium carbonate (without Vit D).

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    FROM 4skwerlz
    You need to find what the elemental calcium is on the tums you get.
    When we suggest giving X amount of calcium,
    it's elemental that we're talking about.




    Hi everyone,
    Tums has changed some of their dosing and labeling. What it says on the label may NOT be what you think! Below is a sort of pictorial guide to the actual elemental calcium contained in the new Tums formulas. NOTE: People may have older versions of Tums, which might have different labeling/dosing, so check carefully and have them read the back label, including what the serving size is. The amount of elemental calcium listed on the back may well be for either ONE or TWO tablets.

    Attachment 249584 Contains 200 mg calcium per tablet


    Attachment 249585 Contains 300 mg calcium per tablet


    Attachment 249586 Contains 400 mg calcium per tablet

    Back label for Tums Regular:
    Attachment 249588

    Back label for Tums Extra 750:
    Attachment 249589

    Back label for Tums Ultra 1000:
    Attachment 249587

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    Yes. We had him on tums 1000mg for the first 3 days. Now he's on calcium 600mg with calcium carbonate. So far he's taking it like a champ. The tums were another story. Little doses every 3 hours. No nuts nor seeds since Thursday. Broccoli, snap peas, kale, and mushrooms. He's very picky

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey joe View Post
    Yes. We had him on tums 1000mg for the first 3 days. Now he's on calcium 600mg with calcium carbonate. So far he's taking it like a champ. The tums were another story. Little doses every 3 hours. No nuts nor seeds since Thursday. Broccoli, snap peas, kale, and mushrooms. He's very picky
    Oh perfect. Have you noticed any change?
    As crappy as his diet was, we still aren't 100% sure MBD
    is his problem. So I would like to start him on Tramadol
    and Gabapentin. chickenlegs is sending the Metacam overnight.
    We cannot give him ibuporfen if he is going to be taking Metacam/Meloxicam,
    so not to worry about getting that tomorrow. We will give him Tramadol
    for pain once we get a weight.

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    Yes, noted positive changes per his mother (my husband)

    Increased appeitite
    Urinates and poops
    More alert and stays awake a little longer
    Drinks and eats well ( but he's picky)
    No crying unless he is trying to pull himself up to hide.

    The not so good news
    No movement in back legs or tail
    Seems like a lump to the left of his pocket rocket. Tight mass ( paranoia??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey joe View Post
    Yes, noted positive changes per his mother (my husband)

    Increased appeitite
    Urinates and poops
    More alert and stays awake a little longer
    Drinks and eats well ( but he's picky)
    No crying unless he is trying to pull himself up to hide.

    The not so good news
    No movement in back legs or tail
    Seems like a lump to the left of his pocket rocket. Tight mass ( paranoia??)
    Is he sensitive in that area?
    He's pooping alright, correct?
    Glad that he's responding to the MBD treatment.
    When they have MBD they are very achey.
    Can you put a heating pad under half the container he's in
    and set it on low?

    I will be going off line for a while, but I'm sure that others will
    be on to answer your questions.

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    Have his testes descended? Can you post a photo of the bulge?

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    237 grams. We have infants Motrin. Should we give him that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    Is he sensitive in that area?
    He's pooping alright, correct?
    Glad that he's responding to the MBD treatment.
    When they have MBD they are very achey.
    Can you put a heating pad under half the container he's in
    and set it on low?

    I will be going off line for a while, but I'm sure that others will
    be on to answer your questions.
    Yes. No issues pooping or urinating.

    He does sleep with a heating pad on low.

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    No. No Motrin if they are going to start him on Tramadol.

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    Oh, I didn't see that they were starting Tramadol. Tramadol is for pain, Motrin will treat inflammation thereby reducing pain. Choose one or the other please.

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    Sorry. It's because of the Meloxicam. Look at Nancy's last coupe of posts.

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    That makes much more sense, Lynn.

    Yes, you cannot give two NSAIDs at the same time. Do not give Ibuprofen if you are already giving Meloxicam.

    Edit: I deleted the dosing info for ibuprofen

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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    Have his testes descended? Can you post a photo of the bulge?
    The pen is pointing at the lump. He's 237 grams just weighed.
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    I'm sorry, I can't really tell what's there. On a side note, wash and dry his skin and fur when he potties on himself, otherwise he'll get skin breakdown and sores and you'll have a whole other thing to handle. Warm water and fluff dry with a dry washcloth should suffice. Keep him warm.

    He sure is a handsome fella!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post

    We well need a weight on him in grams to dose any meds.
    We will also need the strength/mg of the Gabapentin and the tramadol.
    Can you check around for anyone that may have Prednisone OR Metacam.
    These two drugs are actually the best for relieving swelling
    .
    Prednisone often used by those with asthma and most keep it on hand,
    do you friends or family know anybody like that you can call?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stepnstone View Post
    Prednisone often used by those with asthma and most keep it on hand,
    do you friends or family know anybody like that you can call?
    Unfortunately no. I do have infant motrum, tramadol, and gabapentin though

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    Any suggestions on these meds? He's. 237 grams. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    I'm sorry, I can't really tell what's there. On a side note, wash and dry his skin and fur when he potties on himself, otherwise he'll get skin breakdown and sores and you'll have a whole other thing to handle. Warm water and fluff dry with a dry washcloth should suffice. Keep him warm.

    He sure is a handsome fella!
    Just had a bath and looks relaxed
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    He seems to be bloated. It's not always that full so just not sure if this is normal

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