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    Hi! New to the board! Have a few questions aswell.
    I have a 5-6 week old baby who I think might have AP, but I'm not too sure. She sounds like he is clicking when she breathes.
    Just yesterday she was doing fine and is a very excited eater and would move around a lot(aspirated maybe once or twice in the last three days), but now she is very lethargic and will barely eat. I've been reading through some posts on here but haven't really found out what I could give her and how much I would need to to help her before it's too late.
    Thank you to anyone who replies and help me with this situation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae022216 View Post
    Hi! New to the board! Have a few questions aswell.
    I have a 5-6 week old baby who I think might have AP, but I'm not too sure. She sounds like he is clicking when she breathes.
    Just yesterday she was doing fine and is a very excited eater and would move around a lot(aspirated maybe once or twice in the last three days), but now she is very lethargic and will barely eat. I've been reading through some posts on here but haven't really found out what I could give her and how much I would need to to help her before it's too late.
    Thank you to anyone who replies and help me with this situation!

    You need to find some antibiotics asap!
    Baytril (animal form)or Cipro (human form) are best. Clava-mox, Amoxicillian can be used.
    Check what you have, call around to family and friends. Let us know what you can find, the milligrams of it
    and the weight of the baby. We can tell you if it can be used how to break down and dose.
    Do not delay! AP takes them down and out fast!


    I'm moving this thread to emergency for more eyes on it! We do have Fla members that may be able to assist.
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    Please provide baby's weight in grams and you will need one pill of : Baytril (animal antibiotic) or Ciprofloxicin (human antibiotic) or less effective Augmentin/Clavamox or amoxicillin.

    Once you have these things tell us baby's weight, mg of the pill and someone will give you a dose for the baby who, yes, needs to be started on antibiotics.

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    @cava and @stepnstone I'm talking to my grandma now and she's going to look to see what we have out of what you said would work, she'll be home within the next hour or so and I will definitely give you the weight and what we have when she does. In the meantime, is there anything else I can do while I'm waiting for my grandma? She's warm right now in a fleece blanket, sleeping. I tried to feed her about an hour ago but she would barely eat like she used to
    Thank you for your replies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae022216 View Post
    @cava and @stepnstone I'm talking to my grandma now and she's going to look to see what we have out of what you said would work, she'll be home within the next hour or so and I will definitely give you the weight and what we have when she does. In the meantime, is there anything else I can do while I'm waiting for my grandma? She's warm right now in a fleece blanket, sleeping. I tried to feed her about an hour ago but she would barely eat like she used to
    Thank you for your replies!
    From what you described she definitely has aspiration pneumonia, ab's are it as far as what can be done to save her.
    You will only need 1 pill for treatment which they usually will respond to rather quickly if treated in time.
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    In the meantime....
    What (formula) have you been feeding her and with what?
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    Can you tell us what town in Florida you are in?
    Perhaps we have a member that can help you with antibiotics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stepnstone View Post
    In the meantime....
    What (formula) have you been feeding her and with what?
    We have been using Esbilac, it is what we used for our last baby, and right now with a 1ml dropper. She aspirated once off of a syringe we used because she sucked it right out of it too quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    Can you tell us what town in Florida you are in?
    Perhaps we have a member that can help you with antibiotics.
    Okeechobee, FL. Two hours south of Orlando

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae022216 View Post
    We have been using Esbilac, it is what we used for our last baby, and right now with a 1ml dropper. She aspirated once off of a syringe we used because she sucked it right out of it too quickly
    What size syringe were you using? With or without nipple?
    Is this the Esbilac (pictured below) you have been using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stepnstone View Post
    What size syringe were you using? With or without nipple?
    Is this the Esbilac (pictured below) you have been using?

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    It was a 6ml syringe without a nipple, which I figured it might have just been too big, and I read up on it more realizing we should have used a nipple. And that's the formula we're using

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    PLEASE order some 1 mL syringes and 3 mL syringes.
    Use the 1 mL syringe for feeding now.
    Also pick up some miracle nipples. If you don't
    want to get those, get the mother silicone nipples.
    Your little one will continue to aspirate when using a 6 mL on a baby
    squirrel no matter how slow you go.
    Is this your first squirrel?
    https://www.henryspets.com/miracle-s...ring-syringes/

    Go to this link below. It's 6 pages long very concise, and
    tells you most of what you need to know. The next arrow is on the top
    right corner.


    https://www.henryspets.com/baby-squirrel-care/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    PLEASE order some 1 mL syringes and 3 mL syringes.
    Use the 1 mL syringe for feeding now.
    Also pick up some miracle nipples. If you don't
    want to get those, get the mother silicone nipples.
    Your little one will continue to aspirate when using a 6 mL on a baby
    squirrel no matter how slow you go.
    Is this your first squirrel?
    https://www.henryspets.com/miracle-s...ring-syringes/
    We were going to order some new syringes and nipples tonight, we stopped with the 6ml syringe after it first happened and used the 1ml dropper until we could get new syringes. This is not our first squirrel, we've raised them as I was growing up. We were limited on supplies because of some old stuff we had to we've been working with what we have while we get online and get new supplies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae022216 View Post
    We were going to order some new syringes and nipples tonight, we stopped with the 6ml syringe after it first happened and used the 1ml dropper until we could get new syringes. This is not our first squirrel, we've raised them as I was growing up. We were limited on supplies because of some old stuff we had to we've been working with what we have while we get online and get new supplies.


    I just made a thread in the emergency section looking for abs for you.
    Keep looking yourself as I don't know if anyone will reply. This is life threatening,
    it will take your baby fast.

    https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/...ds-antibiotics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post


    I just made a thread in the emergency section looking for abs for you.
    Keep looking yourself as I don't know if anyone will reply. This is life threatening,
    it will take your baby fast.

    https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/...ds-antibiotics
    Thank you so much. I'm asking around right now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stepnstone View Post

    You need to find some antibiotics asap!
    Baytril (animal form)or Cipro (human form) are best. Clava-mox, Amoxicillian can be used.
    Check what you have, call around to family and friends. Let us know what you can find, the milligrams of it
    and the weight of the baby. We can tell you if it can be used how to break down and dose.
    Do not delay! AP takes them down and out fast!


    I'm moving this thread to emergency for more eyes on it! We do have Fla members that may be able to assist.
    I have a family friend who has Bactrim that I could crush up, would that be okay to use?

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    Remember we will need a weight on the baby in grams when you get an antibiotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    Remember we will need a weight on the baby in grams when you get an antibiotic.
    Will do! I'm just not sure if Bactrim would be okay to use? Still waiting on my grandma so she can show me what I could he to weigh her and where it's at

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae022216 View Post
    Will do! I'm just not sure if Bactrim would be okay to use? Still waiting on my grandma so she can show me what I could he to weigh her and where it's at
    You can use bactrim but it's a really slow antibiotic, so not the best.
    We can dose this for the time being just to get this little one on something.
    What is the strength/mg of the Bactrim and what does the baby weigh in grams?
    Keep looking for the correct antibiotic.
    Going off line for a while but will keep trying to check back to give you dosing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    Remember we will need a weight on the baby in grams when you get an antibiotic.
    The baby is around 83g and I got some Baytril that is 22.7mg tablet

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