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    Be sure to read all of it, for in doing so you will best understand the matter.

    One thing is clear, to me that is, those in support of promoting GMO produced grains sought a few researchers to aid in criticizing the perameters of the study in order to put off potential law suits from human customers. In support of the squirrels I share this here. Just rememberr I'm just the messenger, not the author


    Warning: These photos of the rats may be upsetting to view.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-on...es-controversy

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5044955/

    http://www.ratwhisperer.net/attentio...od-might-kill/

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    These next group of articles lend much to clarifying the matter of what the research of the Monsanto GMO corn found to cause in the rats fed

    the GMO corn diet vs the rats in the control group that weren't fed the GMO corn. And although their is debate as to the techical cause,

    what is clear is what the diet with GMO corn did to the rats. Other animals fed GMO corn have shown similar outcomes.


    http://responsibletechnology.org/gen...tive-failures/

    http://www.egyptindependent.com/test...ealth-hazards/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffre..._b_544575.html

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    The study data results:

    See both charts on page: http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GM_Soya_Fed_Rats.php

    Unmistakably the GM Soya + rat diet caused deaths in rat pups at a far higher percentage than non GM corn + rat diet did.

    Thirty-six percent of the pups from rats fed GM soya were severely stunted, some 5 to 6 times the percentage in the controls. By three weeks, 55.6 percent of the pups from rats fed GM soya had died, the death rate was 6 to 8 times the controls. These results were statistically highly significant (p<0.00012).
    Once again, Oxbow has confirmed that their soya and canola oil used n their Regal Rat diet is GMO.

    http://www.ratwhisperer.net/attentio...od-might-kill/

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    The Problem With What We Feed

    Just like with people, GMO's may be harmful to pet rats. GMO stands for genetically modified organism and studies have shown that these non-naturally occurring foods can be harmful when eaten. A French study recently tested out this theory on rats and proved that non-GMO corn is much safer for our pets (but there is a lot of debate on this topic still).

    Genetically Modified Corn

    The University of Caen in France discovered that genetically modified corn that is made to be resistant to spraying of weed killer such as Roundup causes mammary tumors, and severe kidney and liver damage when fed to rats.

    They ran a study where they fed this corn to rats and 50% of the males and 70% of the females died prematurely while only 30% of males and 20% of females in the control group died prematurely.

    The company that makes the NK603 seed that was tested claims the the researchers had reached "unsubstantiated conclusions" but was published in the Food and Chemical Toxicology journal nonetheless.


    Due to concerns and the safety of GMO foods, further research is being done by the European Food Safety Authority.


    https://www.thespruce.com/rat-food-and-tumors-1238290

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    Though this website addresses foods that humans with kidney problems should not include in tehir diets, this quote also has application in the diets of older tree squirrels with impaired kidney function, or those that are aged. One key difference in tree squirrels than humans is that they are able wthi the support of (SBO) Prebiotic/ probiotic soil based organisms do degrace some of the oxalates in their diet. That said, when the diet is overloaded the good bacteria in the gut can be damaged from higher oxalic acid intake, as this acid is corrosive. If this happens then the normal degrading of oxalates in their intesines can be reduced significallt, resulting in poor digestion of nutrients from their food, and the uptake of CaOx into their bloodstream that is fodder for CaOx kidney and bladder stones. To support the good gut flora "Pet Flora" from Vitality Science offers excellent support towards this end. It is also available on Amazon.com

    https://www.top10homeremedies.com/ne...kidneys.html/3

    Genetically Modified Foods

    Any food that has been genetically modified, such as some varieties of corn, soy, rice, sugar cane, sugar beets and canola, is not good for people suffering from kidney problems. Such foods can affect the health of your kidneys due to the high levels of oxalates, which bind with calcium in the kidneys to form kidney stones.

    A 2009 study published in the International Journal of Biological Science analyzed three types of genetically modified Monsanto corn and found that they had negative health effects on the kidney and liver functioning of rats. The researchers concluded that the three varieties tested created a state of hepatorenal (liver and kidney) toxicity.

    Another study published in 2015 in Environmental Health reports that glyphosate-based herbicides, which are the major pesticides used worldwide, pose health risks to the liver and kidneys, although low environmentally relevant doses have not been examined.

    Along with genetically modified foods, you must not consume other oxalate-rich foods, including rhubarb, concord grapes, strawberries, sweet potatoes, spinach, summer squash, beets, leeks, tea, coffee, nuts and tofu. Stick to organic foods as much as possible.
    Feeding only organic sources supports lower oxalate intake, and greatly reduces pesticide contamination. Steaming summer squash lowers oxalates also. Soaking nuts in a mixture of low fat Kefir and filterred water overnight and oven drying them on low heat also supports lower oxalates, and phytates they sources contain.

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    Even the Squirrels know!
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    With evidence that rodent block diets have contributed to the death of laboratory rats, and the findings of the, "French Study" in GMOs in corn and soy, this study tested a group of rodent block diets from all over the globe for potential levels of common toxins (GMOs, PBC's, Dioxins, Furan, pesticides, and heavy metals) commonly found in animal feeds. (See Study Chart for specifics) The conclusion was that these rodent block diets contained toxins that were not properly regulated under the present industry standards.

    Laboratory Rodent Diets Contain Toxic Levels of Environmental Contaminants: Implications for Regulatory Tests
    Article: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0128429

    Study Chart: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...e.0128429.g002


    The two sources of Rodent block diets from Italy contained the highest levels of organophosphates of all the sources tested in this study. .

    One of the diets from Italy included in this study is noted as HT TD 2016 Rodent Block Diet.

    This is a summary on the results of the tests on this source:

    Contained: no GMOs


    Contained: lead and cadmium


    Contained: Pesticides Residues (toxins/poisons)

    (Levels higher than those found in most other blocks tested in study)

    https://www.msdvetmanual.com/toxicol...hates-toxicity


    Contained: PCBs (neurotoxins)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychlorinated_biphenyl


    Contained: (DL-PCBs) (Dioxins) (neurotoxins)

    http://www.afsca.be/comitescientifiq...7_Dioxines.pdf


    Contained: PcDD/Fs (Polychlorinated dibenzo(p)dioxin and furan

    http://chemistry-matters.com/chemica...furans-pcddfs/

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    More info on food contaminants:

    https://www.gov.mb.ca/inr/pdf/pubs/n..._of_canada.pdf

    4.3 Common contaminants found in food

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    https://planetpermaculture.wordpress...carlo-leifert/

    Organic food has more of the antioxidant compounds linked to better health than regular food, and lower levels of toxic metals and pesticides, according to the most comprehensive scientific analysis data.
    The team, led by Prof Carlo Leifert at Newcastle University, concludes that there are “statistically significant, meaningful” differences, with a range of antioxidants being “substantially higher” – between 19% and 69% – in organic food. It is the first study to demonstrate clear and wide-ranging differences between organic and conventional fruits, vegetables and cereals.

    In other studies in Organic produced vs. Conventionally produced:


    in a recent meta-analyses, conducted on the basis on 343 peer-reviewed publications concerning the composition of organic and conventional crops/crop-based foods, was shown that the prohibition of synthetic chemical pesticide use under organic farming standards results in a more than 4-fold reduction in the number of samples with pesticide residues (Barański et al., 2014).
    van Ruth, Alewijn, Rogers, Newton-Smith, and Tena (2011) suggested that the carotenoid content can be used to discriminate organic and conventional eggs. In fact, carotenoids are common colorants of egg yolk and their presence is influenced by the hens’ feeding. In the study the yolks of the organic eggs were subjected to carotenoid fingerprint analysis. It was found that organic eggs contained a greater quantity of lutein and zeaxanthin compared to free range and barn eggs. Lutein and zeaxanthin are important antioxidant compounds, representing about 85% of all carotenoids. These results confirm the findings of Breithaupt, Weller and Grashorn (Breithaupt, Weller, & Grashorn, 2003) which revealed a higher lutein concentration in organic eggs compared to conventional eggs..
    https://www.researchgate.net/profile...ication_detail

    The content of plant secondary metabolites beneficial for human health was the topic of great interest in recent years. 72% of studies (Benbrook et al., 2008) indicated higher level of total polyphenols in organically produced plant foods in comparison with conventionally produced ones (e.g. Carbonaro et al. 2002; Young et al., 2005; Abu-Zahra et al., 2007). Polyphenols represent a large class of plant secondary metabolites with potential antioxidative properties. Moreover, there is a large number of studies reporting the neuroprotective, cardioprotective and chemopreventive actions of these substances (Frei & Higdon, 2003; Carlson et al., 2007; Kampa et al., 2007; Ortuno et al., 2007). The important group of polyphenols identified in higher contents in organic plants are flavonols (Caris-Veynard et al., 2004; Rembiałkowska et al., 2005), which were found to diminish the incidence of heart disease, cancer, gastrointestinal, neurological and liver diseases, atherosclerosis, obesity and allergies (Frei & Higdon, 2003; Fresco et al., 2006; Ramos, 2007; Shankar et al., 2007).
    According to the meta-analysis made by Benbrook et al. (2008) organic crops, compared to conventional ones, contain also more beneficial substances, such as quercetin (acc. to 87% of studies), kaempferol (55%), vitamin C (63%), vitamin E (62%) and phosphorus (63%). They are also known to contain more sugars (Stertz, 2005; Hallmann & Rembiałkowska, 2006) what is probably one of the reasons of better sensory quality of organic produce.
    According to the meta-analysis made by Benbrook et al. (2008) organic crops, compared to conventional ones, contain also more beneficial substances, such as quercetin (acc. to 87% of studies), kaempferol (55%), vitamin C (63%), vitamin E (62%) and phosphorus (63%). They are also known to contain more sugars (Stertz, 2005; Hallmann & Rembiałkowska, 2006) what is probably one of the reasons of better sensory quality of organic produce.
    Organic crops contain also significantly lower residues of pesticides (Baker et al., 2002) which are known to exert carcinogenic, mutagenic, neuro-destructive, endocrine and allergenic effects
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    Harmful substances, such as nitrates, are found in lower contents in organic crops comparing to conventional ones according to 83% of previously published studies (e.g. Abu-Zahra et al., 2007). Organic crops contain also significantly lower residues of pesticides (Baker et al., 2002) which are known to exert carcinogenic, mutagenic, neuro-destructive, endocrine and allergenic effects.
    Nitrogen fertilized has long been confirmed to raise the level of oxalates in cultivars, thus organic crops are lower in them better support calcium and the other macro minerals than do conventionally produced cultivars.

    See rat study file pdf link below:

    Organically: low input of fertilizer without pesticides

    Minimally fertilized: low input of fertilizer with pesticides

    Conventionally: high input of fertilizer with pesticides
    Results:

    The rats fed the organic diet had an improved immune system, slept better, were less fat, had higher vitamin E than the Conventionally fed group.
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    "Laboratory Rodent Diets Contain Toxic Levels of Environmental Contaminants: Implications for Regulatory Tests"

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0128429

    The two diets from Italy (TG 2016 HT and (4RE21) were the highest in pesticides, and the lowest in GMO's.

    The 5002 LabDiet USA. , and the (R94) New Zealand Diet were the lowest in pesticides, and the highest in GMO's.
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    In my first post I wrote Harlan Teklad 2016 Diet likely includes GMO corn; I am glad that this source was not found to contain GMOs (pesticide like compounds corn has been bred for to prevent crop damage and loss), even so other sources were including 5002 LabDiet USA. That the 2016 HT TG diet was found to have higher levels of pesticide residue compared to most of the other block diets in this study doesn't make it any better, as both have been found to promote cancers in rodents.

    Whether the levels of pesticides in the rodent block diets promote it in laboratory rats, is what is discussed, which pointed out such a study was needed to support that cancer is caused in lab rats from the feed. That the GMO cause cancer in rats has been already shown, whether known toxins in various pesticides, dioxin, PCBs, PPB's etc. these block diets contain are at levels that cause cancer in rats, has yet to be determined.

    https://phys.org/news/2015-07-pesticides-lab-rat.html

    The greater concern for pesticide and heavy metal contamination is that these compounds accumulate in the liver and muscle tissues over time, which can lead to liver cancer, and other ill health conditions.

    https://www.sfadvancedhealth.com/ser...detoxification

    A natural way veterinarians recommend to detoxify the liver, kidneys of pets is to use Milk thistle seed extract and Dandelion root.

    Milk Thistle seed extract has been found to help protect the liver in rats from damage toxic compounds. Dandelion root, that contains, 'inulin', helps to regulate blood sugar levels.

    This source can be given daily; 1 needle drop from a (1 cc) (1 ml) needle-syringe added to 1 Tsp. of unsweetened plain organic oatmeal (preferably slow cooked) daily.

    These herbs can have a diuretic effect which may temporary promote looser stool. If this occurs and the stool doesn't firm up in a day, then reduce the amount by including this source every other day instead.

    The base dose for MTS to treat fungal toxicity from aflatoxin toxicosis (aspergilliosis), is about 2 needle-drops daily. Be sure to check with your veterinarian for more input should you suspect this has occurred.

    These herbs may have a diuretic effect which could cause temporary loosening of the stool. If this occurs and the stool doesn't firm up in a day, then reduce the amount by including this source every other day instead.


    https://www.amazon.com/Oregons-Wild-...9801665&sr=8-4


    Adding organic Chia Oil by, “Foods Alive”, can help to cover the bitter tastes of these bitter herbs. Yet unlike other (food grade) seed oils used for this purpose, this source of organic (food grade) chia oil has a higher of Omega-3 fatty acid to Omega-6 fatty acid. It has been recommended by Veterinarians to boost the immune system and lend help in healing.


    https://www.vitacost.com/foods-alive...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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    More on Protease inhibitors, and Monsanto testing of GMO soy protein.

    Worth the read!

    https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist....-the-pancreas/

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...568217/?page=2

    See under heading, "Reversability of Morphological changes" at the bottom left, continuing on the upper right of this page.

    The conclusion of this study in rats, that changes in the pancreas in regard to nodules that form on account of a negative impact to the function of the pancreas in rats fed a diet with soy powder, be the soy produced organically or conventionally, were in the rats reversible up to 6 months upon the discontinuation of the soy diet; yet after 6 months on a soy diet, the development of the nodules were not reversible after the discontinuation of the soy diet, which lead into their progression of the development of pancreatic cancer.

    "Administration of soy flour for longer than 6 months results in irreversible nodule formation and progress to pancreatic carcinoma, despite changes to a non-soya flour-containing diets."
    And although both fox and gray squirrels have been observed predating soya crops in years the where that the acorn crop fails, soya is not a source that tree squirrels consume on a long term basis, as rodent block that contains soya often is used to support NR tree squirrels cared for in captivity, save for exceptions (HHB rodent block diet).

    With laboratory rat research being a key reference source that is used to support the nutritional needs of tree squirrels from weaning to release, and also for NR adults long term in captivity, this study having observed that the long term impact soy diets in rats, resulting in, "irreversible nodule formation and progress to pancreatic carcinoma", should likewise be regarded as having a significant potential for the long-term development of this condition in tree squirrels. And though the lab rat is the most susceptible to developing these conditions, it doesn't entirely preclude the same to result in a similar wild rodent species.

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    In follow up research on GMO in grains, this article relates that there are researchers have spoken up in opposition to the denial of Monsanto, that was found to be negligent in not informing the public about the dangers that Roundup used in the production of corn, soy, and canola oil, that are often used in name brand animal block/pellet feeds.

    https://www.cornucopia.org/2015/07/l...ides-and-gmos/

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    Interesting read! Thank you for the research

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    Thanks, but I only looked it up, cause I'm a "Data Diggie"; the credit belongs to the researchers for their research, not me.

    "In Rats: Administration of soy flour for longer than 6 months results in irreversible nodule formation and progress to pancreatic carcinoma, despite changes to a non-soya flour-containing diets."
    It is for this reason that I can no longer recommend any other block diet presently for long-term use after the squirrels reach adulthood, than HHB; as all the others contain either corn or soya. The Harlan Teklad 2016 (Italy) contains corn that is higher in pesticides, and the Lab Diet USA 5002 is higher in GMO. Both cause cancer when fed long term.

    Two of the squirrels that we cared for long term both developed a cancer tumor on one of their toes later in later in life.
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    In summary:

    Soy oil, and canola oil are two key sources of GMO produced in grains the third is corn and corn oil. GMO produced grains contain pesticides like compounds that have been shown to promote cancer in rats.

    A must read before your feed.

    https://www.cornucopia.org/2015/07/l...ides-and-gmos/

    There is no escaping that the problem of contaminated laboratory diets are a serious regulatory issue since all of our safety regulations for toxic substances are based on the results of this kind of animal testing.

    It is also an animal welfare issue, particularly if scientists know that they are routinely feeding contaminated food to their animals and they keep on doing it anyway.
    And though as wilds, wild rats, and tree squirrels have a greater resilience to toxins than domestic bred rodents, with long-term use these contaminants in feeds can support the development of ill health conditions in tree Squirrels, as even wilds have their limits.

    For more on containments in nutrients common to feeds see, "Vital Nutrients" thread.

    Diggie's Friend, aka: Data Diggie

    https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/...l-Requirements

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    Article on switching to Organic production of crops


    https://non-gmoreport.com/articles/j...ganic-corn.php

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    Update on Glyphosates found in cereal grains

    Though most cereal grain sources that aren't soy or corn have been assumed to be non GMO, this actually isn't the case. Many cereal sources recently tested have also been found to exceed the acceptable levels of, 'Glyphosate', (GMO) content for cereal grains; and even some organic brands of cereal grains have been found to be contaminated with Glyphosates and Glyphosate like compounds. It's worth to take a few minutes to check the list of various GMO free and GMO contaminated cereal grain sources on the market

    https://www.mamavation.com/food/cere...lyphosate.html

    https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/ne...l-kids-cereals

    Glyphosate has been linked to tumors in mice and rats — and there is also what the IARC classifies as ‘mechanistic evidence’, such as DNA damage to human cells from exposure to glyphosate.
    Studies have also reported kidney and liver damage in rodents, including the potential for non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, in some cases at glyphosate levels as low as .05 parts per billion.
    https://gmofreeusa.org/research/glyp...sate-overview/

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    You know, Bill Gates is buying up a lot of farmland. Probably trying to get it all in GMO or keep it that way.
    "I hope everyone got or gets their Baby Love today"~Shewhosweptforest

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