Do you have any Nutrical? I wonder if maybe getting a bit of concentrated calories into him might help a bit. Many prayers going up for all of you...
Do you have any Nutrical? I wonder if maybe getting a bit of concentrated calories into him might help a bit. Many prayers going up for all of you...
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Scooterzmom (05-26-2017)
Are you sure there isno intestinal blockage or UTI? I saw a squirrel go downhill very fast and one of these two things was suspected. Sometimes UTI doesn't present externally. Is he peeing?
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Scooterzmom (05-26-2017)
I can't offer any advice, but just wanted to say that I'm sending tons of positive, healing energy to you and Hami. You obviously love him with all your heart and are doing everything you can.
Scooterzmom (05-26-2017)
I've been giving him Ensure since last night, and tonight I added a bit of formula to it and some yogurt. THen I gave him his dose of calcium.
He has been peeing, big pees now, and did poop - normal looking poopies.
He went to fdrink from his bowl after his Ensure and his calcium tonight. Now, again, he's just laying there limp. I feel like we're losing the battle.
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Have you thought about treating with antibiotics 'just in case' there might be infection somewhere in the body?
I'm not sure what else to do. Praying that things turn around soon.
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Prayers for you and Hami
Scooterzmom (05-26-2017)
He is 7? It could be his heart.
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Scooterzmom (05-26-2017)
Mitch, do you have the ability to get blood work done? Some of the things you're describing he's doing/not doing are kidney related. Also a urinalysis would be very helpful right now. Most specifically with the UA we'd be looking for the casts.
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"In the midst of our lives we must find the magic that makes our souls soar."My darling Scooter, beloved Hami, sweet gentle Simon... YOU are the ones who brought that magic in my life. You've changed the way I see all things around me now and, because of you, I want to be a better person. This is not goodbye, my sweethearts. You be at peace, your work here on earth is done... now you are finally, truly free. Until we meet at the Bridge again, please remember that I will always love you.
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Mel1959 (05-27-2017), Milo's Mom (05-27-2017)
If you think it's his kidney's, fluids fluids fluids fluids. SQ, oral, osmosis, just get them into him. 60-8cc's is what I would aim for. Salt will help his kidneys, so electrostat or hydration fluid mixed with something yummy like applesauce might be accepted.
Heavy things...ensure/formula...too many heavy minerals and will cause the kidneys to have to work harder. The MBD treatment...yup, the calcium will make the kidneys work harder too. Personally, for now, I would stop the MBD treatment (unless you are seeing positive results since starting it)
UA is priority, blood would be secondary but is still very much needed
Early morning urine is the most concentrated and will give the best results in the UA.
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"In the midst of our lives we must find the magic that makes our souls soar."My darling Scooter, beloved Hami, sweet gentle Simon... YOU are the ones who brought that magic in my life. You've changed the way I see all things around me now and, because of you, I want to be a better person. This is not goodbye, my sweethearts. You be at peace, your work here on earth is done... now you are finally, truly free. Until we meet at the Bridge again, please remember that I will always love you.
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redwuff (05-27-2017)
NO NSAIDS!!!! Please!
Additionally, Hami should not get any of the following kinds of meds as they are extremely hard on the kidneys. (aminoglycoside antibiotics, sulfa antibiotics, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medications, and some others)
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Kidneys issues can be worked with depending on the levels. There are some things that can be done. Is the vet willing to do the UA and/or blood work?
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I think your getting excellent advice/suggestions
from MM and HRT4SQRLS, I will just add my prayers.
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Thinking about you and Hami all day.
Hoping and praying for a positive report.
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Thanks MM
In what way can the issues be worked with? How extensive is the different care involved? We have VERY limited vet care here you must understand and my resources are so scarce and I'm inancially I'm strapped now, which doesn't help.
I've made so many mistakes it seems, I feel horrible already and I don't want to impose a life of misery on him, I want to give him every chance at a good quality of life and for that I need to know as much as possible ahead of time what that might involve. I realize some things cannot be predicted but I'm just trying to find out what is feasible.
EDIT:We would need somebody who could interpret the numbers because my vet is not sure, being quite new at squirrels. Is there anyone qualified to do that on TSB?
"In the midst of our lives we must find the magic that makes our souls soar."My darling Scooter, beloved Hami, sweet gentle Simon... YOU are the ones who brought that magic in my life. You've changed the way I see all things around me now and, because of you, I want to be a better person. This is not goodbye, my sweethearts. You be at peace, your work here on earth is done... now you are finally, truly free. Until we meet at the Bridge again, please remember that I will always love you.
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The type of care and possible supplements and dietary changes will be based on what the UA/Sediment and CBC (blood work) indicates.
The UA would be a Urinalysis and sediment; specifically they are looking for casts that would signify kidney damage, the concentration of the urine, and signs of infection. Additionally they will be able to see if he's throwing protein, glucose, or blood in his urine.
The blood work is going to look at everything...infection, kidney and liver enzymes, glucose, blood calcium, pancreatic enzymes and a whole host of other things.
No one is going to be able to provide a recommended treatment without the information these tests will provide.
I understand the vet care is limited; a UA/Sediment and a CBC panel are not advanced veterinary care and they run them all the time. It's kind of a standard thing.
I don't know if there is a specific person here on TSB that can interpret the results, but several of us have vets that may be willing to...but we gotta get them first.
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Spoke to my vet and despite being a Sunday (tough to get vets on Sunday here) we will take Hami in tomorrow for the tests. In the meanwhile she suggested I keep him hydrated, of course, and start trying to offer some food in liquid form. It's been 3 days now since he had solids - because it was when I brought the food over that I had noticed he had left all of his previous one untouched, even his boo-ball (which he normally loves) and his blocks (even the Henry's, which he also loves). As per my vet's suggestion I've given him some organic squash diluted more than 50-50 with water and a bit of pulverized Teklad, and gave him some Gastrolyte (which will be only for today, tomorrow it'll be onlly water she said). He took 2cc of the squash mix, and 2 of the gastrolyte. She said that was good ant to try and give him some of this nourishment as well as hydration every two hours - hydration being the priority.
"In the midst of our lives we must find the magic that makes our souls soar."My darling Scooter, beloved Hami, sweet gentle Simon... YOU are the ones who brought that magic in my life. You've changed the way I see all things around me now and, because of you, I want to be a better person. This is not goodbye, my sweethearts. You be at peace, your work here on earth is done... now you are finally, truly free. Until we meet at the Bridge again, please remember that I will always love you.
The greatness of a nation can be measured by the way it treats its animals.
- Gandhi -
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