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    Laverne and Shirley went for a vet visit today. Laverne had developed what I thought to be an abscess above her eye the last 5 - 7 days that was not improving.
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    Yesterday I noted a "skin tag" kinda thing on her torso.
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    Fed them just before taking them into the vet and noted what looked to maybe be a rash on her lower abdomen.
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    At the vets I noticed another lesion / bump on her ankle.
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    Also today, here sister Shirley's eye lids started to swell up today.
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    The doc's best guess is pox and he gave me a script for acyclovir liquid (but he was unsure of dosing) and I do have valacyclovir tables.. not sure which is most effective.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky View Post
    Laverne and Shirley went for a vet visit today. Laverne had developed what I thought to be an abscess above her eye the last 5 - 7 days that was not improving.
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    Yesterday I noted a "skin tag" kinda thing on her torso.
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    Fed them just before taking them into the vet and noted what looked to maybe be a rash on her lower abdomen.
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    At the vets I noticed another lesion / bump on her ankle.
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    Also today, Shirley's eye lids started to swell up.
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    The doc's best guess is pox and he gave me a script for acyclovir liquid (but he was unsure of dosing) and I do have valacyclovir tables.. not sure which is most effective.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy in New York View Post
    Contact CritterMom she is the pox expert.
    Thanks Nancy, I sent her an IM with a link to this thread.

    I should have mentioned the other, lessor possibility the vet suggested was ringworm... I dunno. None of the telltale fungal rings have presented on me though... at least not yet?

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    Doesn't look like ringworm to me. Unfortunately, it does look like pox. Many years ago I was feeding lots of wilds and there was a major outbreak of pox with my wilds. The eyes always seemed to be affected.

    As for acyclovir vs. valacyclovir, I really have no idea which would be better or how the two work. I'm not sure if one works faster or lasts longer. It would be great to know, though, if Crittermom has the answer.

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    I would say YES to pox -- it appears initially on the face, genital area and paws. You are catching it in the early stage, when acyclovir works really well.
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    Looks a lot like it to me. I still have the acyclovir that's left from my 3. Do you need me to send it to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meirby View Post
    Looks a lot like it to me. I still have the acyclovir that's left from my 3. Do you need me to send it to you?
    What a wonderful offer, I thank you for your generous offer. The vet has provided my a script for the acyclovir so we are all set here at Sandy's Squirrel Spa!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky View Post
    What a wonderful offer, I thank you for your generous offer. The vet has provided my a script for the acyclovir so we are all set here at Sandy's Squirrel Spa!!
    I figured you were already set. It's been so long since I even got on. Best of luck! Pox=no fun

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    It is with a heavy heart that I report Shirley has left us overnight, sometime between midnight and 6AM. She was not long gone this morning when I checked in on her...

    Last week the vet had suggested optimism (an optimism I had not had at the time, but his optimism was contagious) that she may just need more time for the paralysis; she had recovered the use of her tail fully and there was this one little toe... she'd started moving it last week. You know when you are feeding them and they get excited and they stretch their legs behind them and flex their toesies, spreading them apart? Shirley had one little toe that started having that same response consistently at feeding times...

    But that was when the damn Pox was just starting to develop in both Laverne and Shirley. Life was unfair to this sweet girl, first the injury and then the pox. But she was a fighter and never seemed in any distress until last night around 9PM. Her breathing seemed labored so I held her for a while but then I actually thought maybe I was imagining it since she seemed okay after some snuggles.

    FWIW Shirley's response to the pox was much different than her sister's. She was more puffy overall, her fur became much courser.. of course, the prednisone and gabapentin certainly exacerbated the issue. But what may be worth noting is the development of the pox on her paralyzed legs. It was not the same "wart-like" pox development as on her torso (and her sister), but elongated swelling running the lengths of her legs. They had only started weeping the past day or two while Laverne's pox is already drying up (yeah for Laverne). If this is the typical of the way pox will ravage a paralyzed baby, I would suggest it is a fight that likely unwinnable...

    RIP Shirley, your life was much too short and denied you ever the chance of knowing the brilliant squirrel life in the tree tops....

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    I am heartbroken that Shirley lost her fight.
    It was a tough one, but with you helping her every
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    you helped her carry that load.
    Thank you for loving her, holding her, and allowing
    her to cross over with compassion, love and tears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky View Post
    It is with a heavy heart that I report Shirley has left us overnight, sometime between midnight and 6AM. She was not long gone this morning when I checked in on her...

    Sorry to read this, unfortunately it was just not meant to be, what empty words that all seems but
    I know you gave her the best care, love and chance to overcome.

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    If this is the typical of the way pox will ravage a paralyzed baby, I would suggest it is a fight that likely unwinnable...

    I have not read of another surviving paralyzed squirrel with pox, it would be interesting to learn
    if this is the pattern pox takes with paralysis. If this is so with such an already compromised baby
    I am inclined to agree with you.
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    As Step said, it was just not meant to be.

    But you both put up a noble front and Shirley went down fighting it to the very end.


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    I'm so sorry.

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    So sorry to hear about your baby.

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    Very sorry to read this. Rest in Peace Shirley.

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    Thank you for caring for her, the love and warmth you gave her were the one good thing life ofered her. I'm sure this is what she took with her and will remain your angel forever now.

    R.I.P. sweet Shirley. You can go free and join all other angels now.
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    Laverne is next up in the rotation for the very busy RC. She still has some spots /scars from the pox lesions. Can any pox experienced folks reassure me that these are nothing to worry about? Here is a pic of her muzzle where you can clearly see where once there was a pox sore. She has another on her thigh where a very large pox once existed and some smaller areas as well.
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    It takes a long time for the fur to finally grow on the lesions, especially the really bad ones. It looks like she has whiskers right in the middle of that scarring though. I thinks she's good to go!

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