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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    This sucks! . Why was a 6 week old still on Esbilac 32:40?

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    She had it in house already. Didn't think it would be a big deal.....
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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    I was wondering if the 20/50 is okay for baby squirrels? I saw another thing on esbilac being bad for them now so Iím trying to figure out what formula to use.

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    Yes, FoxValley 20:50 is recommended for baby squirrels.
    How old are your babies? If they are 3weeks or less there is a goat milk recipe that we can direct you to.

    Please DO NOT USE ESBILAC!!! The warnings you have read about are true.

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    I would like to have the goat milk recipe on hand just in case. I just received my order from Henryís and got the 32/40. I shall be emailing and asking if I can return for an exchange of another bag of the 20/50.

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    Homemade Goat Milk Formula Plus (HGMF+):
    3 tablespoons goat milk
    3 tablespoons plain yogurt
    2 tablespoons heavy cream
    Ĺ egg yolk

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40 to pinkies

    Quote Originally Posted by island rehabber View Post
    Thank you, Nancy. Having four pinkies right now, and watching their little bodies digest Esbilac just fine, thank you very much, reminded me of the horrors we all experienced with FV 32/40 a few seasons ago.

    I believe we all became complacent or just frustrated at the fact that neither FV's owner nor a few others in the wildlife nutrition field seemed to take the problem seriously. Good rehabbers second-guess themselves; many of us thought it was our fault st first, not the formula. But it was SO many babies, and SO many good rehabbers, that there is no longer any doubt in my mind......

    IT WAS THE FORMULA.



    Has anyone had this issue with 20/50? I'm having a similar issue now with 2 seven week olds. Thriving since I've had them but suddenly after about 2 weeks they seem bloated (2 of the litter, 1 first, 24 hours later another) stool is darker and harder and they're just lazy and not feeling well. I'm rehydrating now with a honey/pedialyte mix along with just water as they'll drink it. I cannot figure out what went wrong, they were PERFECT and then it's like someone flipped a switch.

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    I have heard of no issues with the FV 20/50. They are not clicking (Aspiration Pneumonia) are they?

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky View Post
    I have heard of no issues with the FV 20/50. They are not clicking (Aspiration Pneumonia) are they?
    No clicking, I've been listening every chance I get just to be sure.

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    Donít give pedialyte for longer than 24 hrs. After that time switch to plain sweetened water.

    Give a drop of infant GasX for the bloat.

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1959 View Post
    Donít give pedialyte for longer than 24 hrs. After that time switch to plain sweetened water.

    Give a drop of infant GasX for the bloat.
    Oh I wondered if Gax X was safe! Thank you so much!!

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    Question Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    I know this thread is several years old, but Iím unsure of how to proceed with 2 babies who are 2 weeks, 2 days old. Iíve had them 5 days, they are doing well on the goatís milk, full fat yogurt, heavy whipping cream, egg yolk recipe. Should I transition them to FV 32/40 now and then FV 20/50 when they reach 4 weeks? Or is it safe to keep them on the goats milk formula for a couple weeks?

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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    This is what is recommended.
    I just bought the Foxvalley ultra boost to have on hand just in case.
    Hope this helps 👍

    0-2 weeks: 1 part Ultra Boost to 3 parts Esbilac
    2 weeks to eyes open: 1 parts Ultra Boost to 2 parts Esbilac
    Eyes open to weaning: 2 parts Fox Valley 20/50 to one part UB*

    *Heavy whipping cream can be used while waiting for the Ultra Boost to arrive
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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    I'm the cheerleader here for Esbilac and Ultra Boost 3:1 for babies 2 wks old and under, having had great success with my last 3 season's pinkies. HOWEVER, if your combination is working well for your babies, stick with it and transition to Esbilac-UltraBoost 2:1 at 4 weeks old. The GM combo gives many babies diarrhea, but certainly not all, so if yours are ok stick with it and transition later. Just my .02 !!
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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    Thanks! The GM formula has not caused diarrhea, thankfully. I think I may just keep them on it for a few days since Iíll be beginning the transition to FV 20/50 in just a little over a week. Their finder held them for 3 days before reaching out to me. After 72 hours on vanilla ensure, they were very bloated and had diarrhea (weighing 17 and 19 grams at ~10 days old.) Theyíre now up to 30/32 grams at ~2 weeks, 4 days. No more bloat or diarrhea, thankfully.
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    Default Re: WARNING DO NOT FEED Fox Valley 32/40

    Last year we used 32/40 with UB and didn't have any problems. The only reason why we used 32/40 was because the esbilac we bought was all clumps and didn't mix well. We used it for 2 weeks then transitioned over to 20/50.

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