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    Default Placement needed for six month old fox squirrel in Ohio

    Hi everyone!

    Me: I am 18 and living near Cleveland, Ohio. I work at a Veterinarian's office, though he cannot see Koba because he is not licensed to treat wild animals. I have applied for my category 1 rehabilitation permit.

    Name: Koba

    Species: Fox Squirrel

    Age: Six months (est D.O.B 10/14/14)

    How did you acquire him: I found him in the street when he was four weeks old. He was cold but not very dehydrated.

    Formula used: I raised him on esbilac for two dogs while my fox valley came.

    Cage: He is in a HUGE ferret cage with homemade hammocks and tunnels and lots of toys. He is out of the cage 4-8 hours every day. He has a "dirt box" to play in and bury stuff in. I use store bought topsoil with no pesticides or additives or anything like that. He also has a large cat tree.

    Medications?: Sentry for kittens given at 5 weeks. Only given three drops. Given Vibactra (natural baytril) for pneumonia at 4 weeks and continued for one week. Pneumonia cleared up immediately.

    Personality: He is very playful and a very good squirrel. He uses a litter box and doesn't have any accidents in the cage, though some outside of the cage. He is very tame and knows his name. He plays regularly and is starting to get a little rough, but knows when he is too rough. He has never bitten hard enough to draw blood. I clip his nails bi-weekly.

    Food? Homemade squirrel blocks (http://squirrelrefuge.org/squirrelblock.html). He gets some fruit and veggies almost every day, sunflowers seeds once in a while, in shell nuts (he can't open them yet, he just likes to play with them).

    Issue: Kobe started this thing about six weeks ago where he will grab my fingers and shove them in the back of his mouth and freeze up and just hold them there. I figured he was just teething and it was comforting. However, four weeks ago, after holding my finger, (he went off to do his own thing) he started pawing at his mouth and licking the roof of his mouth like was was choking. He was still upright, but completely fixated. He urinated and defecated also. At the time, I didn't know this was a seizure. Afterwards, he acted a little jumpy but within a half hour he was back to his normal self. He had three of these and they usually last about 15-45 seconds. He is eating and drinking normally.
    However, on December 1st, he had one on the floor. He was not chewing on my finger this time and it was completely unexpected. This one was different though. He didn't paw at his mouth. He urinated and defecated on himself as usual, but he had his legs stretched out in front of him and appeared physically calm, but was licking (almost like when you give a dog peanut butter on the roof of his mouth) and he began foaming at the mouth. He would occasionally twitch his front leg. I petted him to try to keep him calm and make sure he remained upright. About two and a half minutes of this, he sat himself up and was twitching all over kind of. He then jumped at me (not aggressively, though I moved back because I know animals are unaware during seizures and may bite unknowingly) and he began to move about panicked. This lasted five minutes before i picked him up in a towel and held him until he was no longer jerking so he didn't hurt himself. I have this all on video (except the first thirty seconds or so.)
    Once he calmed down a little, he was more clingy than usual and very, very exhausted and warm. He crawled into my lap and lay there while I stroked him (which is unlike him) and I put him in his bed to rest. About an hour and a half later he was back to his normal self and eating, drinking, and playing. I contacted every vet I could but none would help me. I am hoping it is caused by hypocalcemia and gave him about 600mg of tums and gave him a couple cuttlebones to gnaw on. I'm giving him 350mg of tums every other day since. I also gave him a rescue remedy pearl on the 2nd and the 3rd because he was still a little nervous and jumpy. They are seeming to help.

    Link to his seizure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTk3...jGiDbeY8PUkgOA

    Koba is VERY tame! He doesn't mind dogs and really likes cats. I planned on keeping him, but he is starting to get antsy in my room. He paces a lot on the windowsill and wants to be let outside. But I live on a main five way street and there are too many dogs and cats around. Also, his seizures are an issue. Since switching his diet to Henry's blocks, he hasn't had any seizures. But it's too soon to tell if they're gone for good. i would prefer he go to a home with an indoor and outdoor enclosure. He is very tame and cannot be deprived of attention. If rehomed, he will come with his large cage, large cat tree, a couple fleece cage sets, 2-3 litterboxes, his dig box (soil), his shred box (toilet paper) a month's worth of blocks, any other treats I have including in shell nuts, his tree (it's a wimpy braided ficus that's beyond dead but he likes chewing it) and his favorite stuffed animals and a parrot toy for chewing. While I wouldn't want money or Koba, I would like to get some money in turn for his items. His cage was $100 and his cat tree was just short of $100. He has probably $50-$75 worth of toys and I don't know the value of his cage sets since I make them. If you have other squirrels, I make a couple cage sets for your other squirrels as well to go with him. I am willing to drive up to three hours from Cleveland, Ohio to meet you as my car cannot handle much more. I would request pictures of your current pets, your vet information (I would like to call them for a reference.) Koba is such a sweet boy and I wish I could keep him more than anything, but I am going to be moving out of my parents house to an apartment soon and I did plan on taking him, but think he'd be so unhappy. He'll play with docile cats and probably small dogs (ours are 70lbs and 100lbs.) If you would be interested in taking Koba, please PM me and I will respond with my personal email and or phone number.
    I have over 500 pictures and videos of him on my phone, so please, ask for more and I'll send them to your phone!


    *I was not sure where to post this, so admins, please, feel free to move it where it should go.*


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    Default Re: Possible home/SR home needed for six month old fox squirrel

    I have a very blunt question and would like you to think about this before you answer. Do you want to keep Koba or have you decided that he is just way too much responsibility and really do want to rehome him?

    I ask because you have listed some things that are happening that you say are the reason, but those things are fairly temporary.

    First, I personally think that indoor/outdoor cages - which seem to be such a good idea - are not a good idea at all for an NR squirrel. If he truly cannot go out to be wild - and with the odd seizure issue he deserves to at least be observed for some time to see if he continues to seize - giving him access to the wild is simply giving him a small taste of something he will never be able to have, and in my mind, not only is that cruel to the animal; it will also result in a semi-wild that will never be comfortable in either world, and will NOT be a good companion. I very strongly believe they should either be inside with their humans or if outside, it is to wild them sufficiently to release. There are a few indoor/outdoor squirrels out there that are doing well, but in every case the "indoor" part was THEIR idea - THEY decide to come home at night and come inside. It is very, very unusual, though.

    Second, he is right now basically going through puberty, and his little body is awash with hormones. The pacing behavior slowly disappears as they get through this rough patch and six months from now he may completely stop it.

    So, you see, if this is REALLY about wanting an indoor/outdoor cage and because he is pacing, I just shot both of those arguments down.

    There is nothing to be ashamed of if you need to find him a new home, providing you do what you are speaking of - check out new humans, etc. You are 18 and rescued a little animal that may not be able to be released - you didn't steal him from a nest and then capriciously change your mind! But I wanted you to know that most of what you are seeing is temporary, and that if Koba really is not releasable, he will calm down as he gets older.

    So think about all of this and if you truly feel that your life is going in a direction that will prevent you from keeping him, we will help as much as we can so you rehome him successfully.

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    and I wake in the night at the least sound
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    I come into the peace of wild things
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    Quote Originally Posted by CritterMom View Post
    I have a very blunt question and would like you to think about this before you answer. Do you want to keep Koba or have you decided that he is just way too much responsibility and really do want to rehome him?

    I ask because you have listed some things that are happening that you say are the reason, but those things are fairly temporary.

    First, I personally think that indoor/outdoor cages - which seem to be such a good idea - are not a good idea at all for an NR squirrel. If he truly cannot go out to be wild - and with the odd seizure issue he deserves to at least be observed for some time to see if he continues to seize - giving him access to the wild is simply giving him a small taste of something he will never be able to have, and in my mind, not only is that cruel to the animal; it will also result in a semi-wild that will never be comfortable in either world, and will NOT be a good companion. I very strongly believe they should either be inside with their humans or if outside, it is to wild them sufficiently to release. There are a few indoor/outdoor squirrels out there that are doing well, but in every case the "indoor" part was THEIR idea - THEY decide to come home at night and come inside. It is very, very unusual, though.

    Second, he is right now basically going through puberty, and his little body is awash with hormones. The pacing behavior slowly disappears as they get through this rough patch and six months from now he may completely stop it.

    So, you see, if this is REALLY about wanting an indoor/outdoor cage and because he is pacing, I just shot both of those arguments down.

    There is nothing to be ashamed of if you need to find him a new home, providing you do what you are speaking of - check out new humans, etc. You are 18 and rescued a little animal that may not be able to be released - you didn't steal him from a nest and then capriciously change your mind! But I wanted you to know that most of what you are seeing is temporary, and that if Koba really is not releasable, he will calm down as he gets older.

    So think about all of this and if you truly feel that your life is going in a direction that will prevent you from keeping him, we will help as much as we can so you rehome him successfully.

    Thank you!!! This is my first squirrel, so I didn't know about a puberty thing. I thought it was him being anxious bout not being able to go outside. It is difficult because I am 18 and will be moving out on my own soon, and he may be unhappy in an apartment. Until I get an actual house where he could have his own dec'd out "squirrel room." I truly do not want to see him go to someone else, as I know I can provide the best car for him based on my knowledge of him from raising him. My biggest concern is his health, the second being his happiness. I was just worried that he was unhappy and wanted to go outside.
    I told myself when I gt him that no matter what would happen, he is my responsibility. This isn't an urgent thing either. This would be months from now, IF I decide he would be better off in another home. I just wanted to post to see my options and have it available if need be.

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    When I look at your pictures, your feelings for each other are evident. If it is possible for both of you to do it comfortably, he would likely be far happier with you than going to someone else. He won't know the difference between a house and an apartment. He will just know he is with his mama.
    I give you a whole lot of credit for making sure that you are doing the right thing for HIM. God bless...

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    Him having a "dec'd out squirrel room" is not as important to him as having quality time with you and out of cage time. Once he gets past the hormone thing, he should settle down and will want a large cage (quite doable in an apartment) and just needs out of cage time. Having his own room without interaction with you is not going to make him happy. Rex loves being out of his cage, but couldn't care less, unless I am with him during that time. The rest of the time, he is happy in his comfortable cage. My others would rather be in their cages, then being out. They all have wheels, so get their exercise. I am not saying that your squirrel is like mine, but feel him out before deciding that he won't be happy unless he has his own room in a house. You will be surprised by these little devils!
    RIP my sweet Rex , Hanzel , Gem . Wait for me at the Rainbow Bridge.

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    The last Posting's were Perfect, that's why I enjoy what everyone here has to say. Hi xcirelly, I know you can feel guilty that Koba doesn't have a mate,(Yet ), and there are many Animal specie's that Will not Thrive without a mate. But You are Koba' mate, and Hopefully for His entire Life. After all, you are the only one who will Give the Life and Love to Koba that you Know He deserves. And as was said already, His cage need's to stay close as possible to your living area regardless. Smaller Animals have a greater sense of Security when their Provider's are near by. (And when renting, It might be necessary to keep the cage in your bedroom, because "Pet deposit or not" most Landlords may not be as open to allowing a Squirrel.) Annabelle wishes Koba a Happy New Year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabelle View Post
    The last Posting's were Perfect, that's why I enjoy what everyone here has to say. Hi xcirelly, I know you can feel guilty that Koba doesn't have a mate,(Yet ), and there are many Animal specie's that Will not Thrive without a mate. But You are Koba' mate, and Hopefully for His entire Life. After all, you are the only one who will Give the Life and Love to Koba that you Know He deserves. And as was said already, His cage need's to stay close as possible to your living area regardless. Smaller Animals have a greater sense of Security when their Provider's are near by. (And when renting, It might be necessary to keep the cage in your bedroom, because "Pet deposit or not" most Landlords may not be as open to allowing a Squirrel.) Annabelle wishes Koba a Happy New Year!
    Most apartments here do not require a pet deposit for any small animals that are in cages. He's just my beloved rare ethiopian angora ferret LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckman View Post
    Him having a "dec'd out squirrel room" is not as important to him as having quality time with you and out of cage time. Once he gets past the hormone thing, he should settle down and will want a large cage (quite doable in an apartment) and just needs out of cage time. Having his own room without interaction with you is not going to make him happy. Rex loves being out of his cage, but couldn't care less, unless I am with him during that time. The rest of the time, he is happy in his comfortable cage. My others would rather be in their cages, then being out. They all have wheels, so get their exercise. I am not saying that your squirrel is like mine, but feel him out before deciding that he won't be happy unless he has his own room in a house. You will be surprised by these little devils!
    What wheel do you use? I don't have one for him. I'm worried about him hurting his big fluffy tail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcirelly View Post
    What wheel do you use? I don't have one for him. I'm worried about him hurting his big fluffy tail.
    I make my own from bicycle tires. Once you have a large cage for him, I might be tempted to build one for you, but you will be disappointed, because I don't sell them. I give them to loved squirrels who need exercise to run off all that sweetness from the love they get!
    RIP my sweet Rex , Hanzel , Gem . Wait for me at the Rainbow Bridge.

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