Well, I am technically the author. I don't know what you mean in terms of "laying claim" to it.Originally Posted by Ardilla
Well, I am technically the author. I don't know what you mean in terms of "laying claim" to it.Originally Posted by Ardilla
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How about, "Each food should be fed in moderation, meaning no more than a few times a week and along with a variety of others. No one food should be considered a "staple" food to be fed daily."Originally Posted by 4skwerlz
I understand that. My dad has diabetes (as do several other relatives) and he has to maintain a certain balance in his diet. It's about proportions, not equal amount of everything.Originally Posted by 4skwerlz
However, that doesn't change the fact that certain foods high in beta-carotene have been red-flagged in the Healthy Diet Chart and limited when they really don't need to be.
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If, as you said, this is the result of a team effort, then you are not the sole author of the content.Originally Posted by 4skwerlz
But you said it was devised by board collaboration. In that case, you are not the only author, TSB is. If you are copyrighting it under your company name you are, in fact, laying legal claim on it. That's what copyright is.Originally Posted by 4skwerlz
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I think this is a good statement and should be added. However, I don't think it takes the place of suggested quantities whenever possible or appropriate.Originally Posted by PBluejay2
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Other than rodent blocks, were there suggested quantities?Originally Posted by 4skwerlz
Anyhoo, if you feel this is an important issue I suggest a separate thread or that you take it up with Admin so we can stay on topic here.Originally Posted by PBluejay2
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(trying to address your points one by one...)Originally Posted by PBluejay2
If a person is following the Healthy Diet, including limited quantities of certain foods like seeds and nuts, they do not need to worry about calcium/phosphorus ratios. All of the foods have been carefully prescreened as to their ratios and/or limited in quantity. Therefore, the differences between one veggie and another calc/phos-wise is insignificant, by which I mean "incapable of affecting the overall calc/phos ratio of the diet in a negative way."
As for pumpkin seeds, that is one food that I don't agree with having on the list. I brought up the issue of eliminating pumpkin seeds from the Diet, it was discussed, everyone shrieked like boiled owls , and so on the Diet they stayed, in limited quantities of course.
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Not nearly enough. Like I said, I'm constantly asked to suggest quantities for everything. I'd really like to figure out some kind of rubric or language to address that. Former versions of the Diet did have suggested quantities but I wasn't happy with the format. The pyramid does suggest overall quantities for each "food group," but it seemed most important to have quantities where there was a required minimum (like the blocks) or an area where we need to limit intake, like nuts and maybe avocado, as an example.Originally Posted by PBluejay2
I'm currently working on a new version of the Diet and would like to address that if I can.
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I whole-heartedly disagree with this one, 4s. Then why don't we include corn in the list and do away with the caution to avoid sunflower seeds and pine nuts?Originally Posted by 4skwerlz
That's what "prescreened" means.Originally Posted by PBluejay2
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I guess I don't know what that means, then. Explain?Originally Posted by 4skwerlz
Originally Posted by PBluejay2The goal of the Diet was to present the "best of the best"; an "ideal diet" or as close as possible. So every food there was looked at carefully....All of the foods have been carefully prescreened as to their ratios and/or limited in quantity. Therefore, the differences between one veggie and another calc/phos-wise is insignificant, by which I mean "incapable of affecting the overall calc/phos ratio of the diet in a negative way."
1. What does it contribute nutritionally to the overall diet? vitamins? minerals? fiber? good for the teeth? etc.
2. Will squirrels EAT it? (healthy foods aren't much use otherwise)
3. Can people find it at the grocery store/will they be comfortable buying it? For example, chayote is a fantastic veggie nutrition-wise, but since folks aren't familiar with it, few buy it for their squirrels. It's THERE but you could argue it's just taking up space.
4. Do squirrels love it so much that they might eat TOO MUCH of it? In that case, even a healthy food might need a limit.
5. Though generally healthy, is there some other aspect of the food that suggests a limit? High in starch, sugar, or fat?
6. Is the calc/phos ratio within range so that it will not create an imbalance? Some foods, like nuts, may be so important to the diet that they need to be included anyhow, with limits. I did however, screen out the worst nuts.
7. I checked the glycemic load of almost every fruit you can think of and selected the ones with the lowest GLs (I believe my upper limit was 5 or 6, but I'd have to check.)
This is not exhaustive or in any particular order, but you get the gist I think.
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Well, for a later discussion you'll have to fill me in on why pine nuts and sunflower seeds were nixed (I know your argument about corn) and others, such as pumpkin seeds. weren't.Originally Posted by 4skwerlz
It's as I said: The GROUP didn't agree to pumpkin seeds being nixed.Originally Posted by PBluejay2
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But you and I went around and around about them about a year or so ago, remember? You couldn't decide because of the shell/husk? I suppose you decided to keep them in then? Doesn't matter.Originally Posted by 4skwerlz
About the copyright. . . .
And is the issue settled regarding what to do with the high Beta carotine veggies. For someone who's not "the decider," it seems everything depends on your decision.
Re: the pumpkin seeds, it wasn't an issue of whether I could "decide"; as you'll recall, I was trying to get a definitive answer on the calc/phos ratio, as the conflicting info didn't make sense to me. Since that was never resolved, I presented the issue to the group (this was probably before you were involved in that level of discussion, if you know what I mean), including the confusing calc/phos ratio. I argued for eliminating them, but as I said, the group as a whole (especially the flyer folks) felt strongly they should stay in. Let me spell it out, once more: I didn't decide, the group decided. In fact, they went against my recommendation.Originally Posted by PBluejay2
As for the vitamin A, I don't think you and I are exactly a quorum, so unfortunately, it looks like we'll have to await more input from others.
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You heard her, folks--put down the popcorn!
And the copyright?