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Somya
03-13-2023, 07:10 AM
The thing is i gound three Indian palm squirrels yesterday and it was more like they have been separated by their momma as there are garages where i found them and they were on ground squeaking loud voice so i took them in i found out they are just two weeks old and first hydrated them by mixing 1teaspoon of salt with 1 tablespoon of sugar in warm water and feed them also read that within 3 hours they need to be feed formula so we weren't sure about the formula as it wasn't available so i used goat milk with curd and heavy cream they are doing well they even started pooping but here comes emergency they are pooping after i stimulate them but they are not peeing i tired searching but didn't found results so came on this site and saw here people help so please guide me what i have to do and how to make them pee.

Mel1959
03-13-2023, 07:33 AM
Continue hydrating them with water. They may be dehydrated and therefore there’s no urine. Also if they’re dehydrated they can’t digest any formula so hydrate them. Here’s the homemade hydration formula: 2 cups warm water, 1.5 Tablespoons sugar, 1/2 teaspoon salt. And the homemade Goats milk formula is: 3 parts goats milk, 1 part heavy cream, 1 part full fat yogurt.

Here’s the link for caring for them: https://www.henryspets.com/1-baby-squirrel-care-guide/

And here’s a link specifically for Palm Squirrels: https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?69215-Link-to-Info-on-Palm-Squirrels

Please let us know if you need more help.

Somya
03-13-2023, 07:55 AM
Continue hydrating them with water. They may be dehydrated and therefore there’s no urine. Also if they’re dehydrated they can’t digest any formula so hydrate them. Here’s the homemade hydration formula: 2 cups warm water, 1.5 Tablespoons sugar, 1/2 teaspoon salt. And the homemade Goats milk formula is: 3 parts goats milk, 1 part heavy cream, 1 part full fat yogurt.

Here’s the link for caring for them: https://www.henryspets.com/1-baby-squirrel-care-guide/

And here’s a link specifically for Palm Squirrels: https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?69215-Link-to-Info-on-Palm-Squirrels


Please let us know if you need more help.


Thanku so much i will keep the hydrated than also please let me know how much I have to give them the hydration formula and for how long i need to continue it also can I use curd instead of yogurt because i have been mixing curd so please let me know I will keep u updated

CritterMom
03-13-2023, 08:10 AM
Thanku so much i will keep the hydrated than also please let me know how much I have to give them the hydration formula and for how long i need to continue it also can I use curd instead of yogurt because i have been mixing curd so please let me know I will keep u updated

Make sure you change to the hydration formula that Mel1959 suggested. What you described in your original post has WAY too much salt.

Here is an additional site about palm squirrels from a rehabber in your part of the world that is extremely helpful:

http://rehabbersden.org/index.php/36-pages/pricing-table/simple/261-hand-rearing-and-rehabilitation-of-orphaned-palm-squirrels-funambulus-sp-revised-contd

Somya
03-13-2023, 08:56 AM
Thanku so much i will keep the hydrated than also please let me know how much I have to give them the hydration formula and for how long i need to continue it also can I use curd instead of yogurt because i have been mixing curd so please let me know I will keep u updated


Make sure you change to the hydration formula that Mel1959 suggested. What you described in your original post has WAY too much salt.

Here is an additional site about palm squirrels from a rehabber in your part of the world that is extremely helpful:

http://rehabbersden.org/index.php/36-pages/pricing-table/simple/261-hand-rearing-and-rehabilitation-of-orphaned-palm-squirrels-funambulus-sp-revised-contd

Thanku so much i will change their hydration formula also now i have doubt the thing is i followed this diet chart and in it it was 1cc (ml) feed which i was following but what u shared me is great help and it says not more than 0.4ml now that's huge difference so how much amount is appropriate also please let me know can I use curd instead of yogurt.

https://henryspets.com/3-how-to-feed-a-baby-squirrel/

Mel1959
03-13-2023, 08:59 AM
Thanku so much i will keep the hydrated than also please let me know how much I have to give them the hydration formula and for how long i need to continue it also can I use curd instead of yogurt because i have been mixing curd so please let me know I will keep u updated

Baby squirrels are fed by a percentage of their weight in grams. We feed 5-7% of their weight in formula or hydration. Example 100gr x .05= 5ml and 100gr x .07= 7ml. These amounts are per feeding. Increasing amounts should be done slowly. Overfeeding causes diarrhea. Once they are completely hydrated feed the formula. Then you can give hydration BETWEEN feedings if you think they need it.

I’m not familiar with curd, but if it’s similar to yogurt that’s fine. This recipe for goats milk is really only a temporary food source. Im unfamiliar with what other formula options are available to you. Please check out the resource links Crittermom posted.

Mel1959
03-13-2023, 10:02 AM
Thanku so much i will change their hydration formula also now i have doubt the thing is i followed this diet chart and in it it was 1cc (ml) feed which i was following but what u shared me is great help and it says not more than 0.4ml now that's huge difference so how much amount is appropriate also please let me know can I use curd instead of yogurt.

https://henryspets.com/3-how-to-feed-a-baby-squirrel/

Just substitute the amount of yogurt for the curd. It’s only one part of the recipe added to one part heavy cream and 3 parts goats milk.

What do the babies weigh?

Somya
03-13-2023, 12:31 PM
Just substitute the amount of yogurt for the curd. It’s only one part of the recipe added to one part heavy cream and 3 parts goats milk.

What do the babies weigh?

I just weighted them on digital scale all three (2 baby girls and 1 baby boy) are of 15gm
And like u explained me mel.. 15× 0.5 = 7.5 and 15× 0.7 = 10.5 so do i have to feed the 7.5ml or 10.5ml ??

Mel1959
03-13-2023, 12:41 PM
Are they peeing yet? If they’ve been without mom for awhile they are probably dehydrated. Please continue to hydrate them till they are urinating. Are you keeping them warm. They can’t regulate their own body temperature at this age.

Wow! 15gr. They must be tiny. :Love_Icon

Somya
03-13-2023, 03:45 PM
Are they peeing yet? If they’ve been without mom for awhile they are probably dehydrated. Please continue to hydrate them till they are urinating. Are you keeping them warm. They can’t regulate their own body temperature at this age.

Wow! 15gr. They must be tiny. :Love_Icon

Baby boy did but both the girls haven't yes i will and i have changed the formula as u guided and yesah i m using heat pad and covering it with cloth than a towel and in that soft cloth so their tiny paws don't stuck on towel and they are in it i do check their body temperature again and again ... And yes ☺️ they are way too tiny cuz my fingers are longer than them 🤭🤭

Oh yes wanted to ask should I give them hydration formula even at night like i m giving them formula at 30 mins gap between their meal (goat milk formula) but at night i give them 4-5 hours break like today i fed them around 12 am so will check them around 2 if the heating pad needs to be heated again or not and than i will directly feed them in morning 4:30 or 5 am so do i have to feed them at night too with interval of 2 hours and how i have give hydration formula at night or what i m doing is alright !?

Somya
03-13-2023, 11:04 PM
Wanted to give u updated they all have started peeing ☺️☺️
Also do i have to continue with hydration formula... There's one thing they don't poop everytime after so that's normal right?

Somya
03-14-2023, 07:31 AM
Please help one of my baby girl started having runny poop all of sudden other two are good and showing no sign of runny poop 🥺🥺🥺 is my baby having diarrhoea??what should I be doing

Mel1959
03-14-2023, 07:59 AM
The diarrhea can be due to over feeding. If the others seem to be hydrated then you can back off on the hydration formula for them and only hydrate occasionally. With the one that has loose stool continue to offer some hydration to counteract the fluid loss from the diarrhea. Since they are so little I wouldn’t let them go for too long overnight without eating. When they get older the overnight feeding can be discontinued.

Do they have any fur? I assume eyes are closed, too? Can you post a picture?

Somya
03-14-2023, 12:59 PM
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Yes they have tiny bit of fur and also their eyes are closed and they are beautiful :Love_Icon.... Please do tell me they are healthy or not and what i have to do to make them healthy

Mel1959
03-14-2023, 01:06 PM
They are adorable! :Love_Icon They look healthy to me. I hope others will chime in if they see something I missed.

If you can put them on a soft blanket instead of a towel, that would be better. Their toe nails can get caught in the tiny towel loops.

Somya
03-14-2023, 01:43 PM
They are adorable! :Love_Icon They look healthy to me. I hope others will chime in if they see something I missed.

If you can put them on a soft blanket instead of a towel, that would be better. Their toe nails can get caught in the tiny towel loops.

That made me feel relaxed that they seem healthy and actually i m way to grateful because u guided me throughout i have taken care of baby squirrels before as well but they were older with eyes open and understanding environment taking care of such small babies is my first time they do require special attention. Understood i will change their bedding right away :o

Ahh yess the baby which seemed having runny poop started pooping solid poop although it's still have water content a bit and she is pooping lesser compared to yesterday and she is peeing more

Chirps
03-14-2023, 02:48 PM
I just weighted them on digital scale all three (2 baby girls and 1 baby boy) are of 15gm
And like u explained me mel.. 15× 0.5 = 7.5 and 15× 0.7 = 10.5 so do i have to feed the 7.5ml or 10.5ml ??

You multiplied by 50% and 70% respectively. You need a zero right after the decimal.

15 x .05= .75 ml

15 x .07= 1.05 ml

Best wishes to you and your beautiful babies!

JoeyToey
03-14-2023, 03:41 PM
Please what should i do..my female squirrel's kegs suddenly sstopped wirking and now she is not responding to us..she isnt peeing and is severe pain..what should we do?

Spanky
03-14-2023, 03:57 PM
Please what should i do..my female squirrel's kegs suddenly sstopped wirking and now she is not responding to us..she isnt peeing and is severe pain..what should we do?

Follow this protocol immediately:
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?17680-Emergency-Treatment-for-MBD-(Updated-3-31-09)

Once you reply that you saw this I will move your post to its own dedicated thread and send you the link...

Somya
03-15-2023, 03:48 AM
Okay so the my baby girl with diarrhoea has recovered i m not feeding her milk formula rather i m giving hydration formula and she has recovered fast so i m planning to to give her milk formula but with Little quantity but when should be doing that ...

And another problem is my baby boy has has swollen belly and it's not squishy it's rather hard and firm looks as he is bloating so i skipped his milk formula as well and didn't fed him hydration formula too the belly seems i bit less swollen i gave him messages and rubs too he has urinated but pooped very little and it seems like he is trying but seems constipated i don't understand i have him same quantity as per weight of babies but i think maybe the milk formula is yet not accepted by the body but if u know any other reason please let me know and how do I take care of him in bloated stomach as i know he is in pain :sadness :sadness

i read here in squirrel board that keeping his lower body in warm water and messaging belly helps alot but i can't do that cuz it's cold over here and i m afraid he can catch cold they also suggested (simethicone) i guess that's the name of baby medicine for gas but as u know how small they are i didn't knew what quantity i should be giving so please help me with this one he seems uncomfortable with that belly and he wants to have something but i can't take that risk so tell me when i should be hydrating him first as well

Mel1959
03-15-2023, 06:55 AM
The simethicone is the infant version. In the US it’s called GasX. It’s a very safe drug and comes in liquid form so give him a couple of drops as needed. Yes, you have to get the bloat resolved or it can be fatal. You were right to withhold food until his tummy gets squishy again, but offer some water with a little honey or sugar in it. There is another option for massaging the baby. That is to lay the baby on a warm heating pad and gently massage the sides of the baby in a downward way to try to get him to expel the gas. Bloat can be caused from over feeding or having the formula not warm enough or an abrupt change in formulas. It can be exacerbated by constipation. Sweetened water will help with the constipation. Once you get the bloat resolved gradually resume feeding by building back up to their required amounts.

You do understand your error in feeding calculation of percentage of weight, right? 5%=.05 and 7%=.07, NOT .5 or .7.

Somya
03-15-2023, 11:57 PM
The simethicone is the infant version. In the US it’s called GasX. It’s a very safe drug and comes in liquid form so give him a couple of drops as needed. Yes, you have to get the bloat resolved or it can be fatal. You were right to withhold food until his tummy gets squishy again, but offer some water with a little honey or sugar in it. There is another option for massaging the baby. That is to lay the baby on a warm heating pad and gently massage the sides of the baby in a downward way to try to get him to expel the gas. Bloat can be caused from over feeding or having the formula not warm enough or an abrupt change in formulas. It can be exacerbated by constipation. Sweetened water will help with the constipation. Once you get the bloat resolved gradually resume feeding by building back up to their required amounts.

You do understand your error in feeding calculation of percentage of weight, right? 5%=.05 and 7%=.07, NOT .5 or .7.


Yes i understood my feeding calculation also i will give him sweetened water and i also got to understand why bloating was caused as they are three babies the formula hot cold so i will make sure to reheat it again and again so that it's warm for them.

Also they have developed a bit of fur compared to the day they came and now they are more playful and also they are able to recognise my voice and scent:serene

Mel1959
03-16-2023, 06:59 AM
I’m not sure what is available to you in your country but this is what I use to keep the water warm while feeding babies. https://www.amazon.com/Coffee-Warmer-Office-Home-Birthday-Valentine/dp/B0B5Z8RJ49/ref=asc_df_B0B5Z8RJ49?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80745516670671&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584345037447610&th=1

It’s a little electric hot plate that you place a hot cup of water on. I fill several syringes with formula and put them in the water. An alternative is to use a little metal cup, fill it with formula and place it in a shallow water filled container that’s on the hot plate. Then fill your syringe as you’re feeding. Squirrels like their formula fairly warm, but take care to not scald them.

Somya
03-17-2023, 03:28 PM
I have got something similar to keep the formula warm and i use other technique where water needs to be hot and in it the formula is kept so it's warm enough :hug

And Mel this time it's not asking or anything just wanted to share u how they are :Squirrel


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They are growing more fur and also their teeth have come out :gigg

Somya
03-23-2023, 04:49 AM
My baby boy has started with light yellow poop all of sudden at first it was runny or sticky but now he is doing sticky poop ��324585
Please help is this diarrhoea??
If it's diarrhoea i know i will just give hydration formula until it won't stop although i fed him in morning after that he is on hydration formula as it started in between of noon

Tashahaven
03-25-2023, 04:59 PM
Hi Somya. I’m sorry no one has yet responded to your post.

1. How is this little guy doing today? Is he still having this type of poop?

2. What are you currently feeding? I know earlier in the thread, the 5-7% calculation was discussed. Is the formula being properly diluted? Are they staying warm throughout feeding?

3. What type of hydration are you providing, and how often? Are you doing this in between feedings or in place of a feeding?

please let us know. I hope he is doing better. 💕

SamtheSquirrel2018
03-25-2023, 06:20 PM
Hi Somya:
How are your little Squirrels doing right now? Do they have names?

One of the relatively common causes of light, loose poop is over feeding. That may be a possibility but we need the answers to the important questions that TashaHavens has asked and the answers to the questions below.

Are you weighing each Squirrel accurately first thing in the morning before beginning the daily feedings?

How often are you feeding your Squirrels?

Are you calculating the volume for each feeding based upon the weight for that particular Squirrel. The usually acceptable range of volume of formula for each feeding of the day is 5%-&% of the weight you obtained for the Squirrel that morning (new weight each day). Are you multiplying the weight in grams of each Squirrel by 0.05 (that is 5%) to 0.07 (that is 7%)?

What is the formula you are using and how are you preparing it (how and with what are you mixing the formula?). I guess even more basic would be whether or not you are using a powder or liquid as a base for your formula?

Did the baby the baby girl who had apparent problems moving her hind legs recover completely or at all? Did you start the Metabolic Bone Disease treatment for which Spanky placed a link in your thread on 3/14/2023?

Again, what specifically in your "rehydrating solution or do you have the Brand Name for your "rehydrating solution" if it is already made when you buy it?"

Any time a "rehydrating solution" is being used, it must be done separately from the formula. The formula should NEVER be mixed with anything but water per the directions for mixing formula. Powdered formula should be mixed mixed the day before or the evening before to allow the powdered formula to become mixed completely with the water. Keep it in the refrigerator until just before it is to be used. Then it should be warmed to almost to the point of being hot but not quite. It should not feel uncomfortable to you when formula is dropped as a temperature test on the skin of you inner forearm.

This is a link to the location on Henry's website where they provide excellent and concise recommendations and guidance for Baby Squirrel Care! Please look at it now!

https://www.henryspets.com/1-baby-squirrel-care-guide/

Regards,
SamtheSquirel