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Hi everyone,
I've rehabbed few squirrels only because all rehabbers near me in Toronto Canada were too busy, although a 4 hours drive wouldn't have been as much work as raising babies for 7 months lol. Anyways I've fallen in love with them and now feed them occasionally on walks. I noticed few months ago 3 squirrels with tails: 1 with no fur and 2 with very little fur. Couple days ago, I hadn't been out in couple weeks due to weather, noticed the one with no fur now has no fur around eyes and right eye is swollen. I don't notice him itching and not bleeding or scabby, still runs for food and seems good personality wise.
I spoke to a rehabber that's about hour and half away and mentioned instead of mange could be squirrelpox and either way we must catch them quickly to treat and most likely over-winterize to treat and not effect others. Problem is it's wild in a forest and there's about 30 others that are always nearby. They're all very spoiled along trail and not afraid of humans. Pretty impossible in my head, even for an expert to get the right one(s) and it's not like it's starving. I read on here to treat mange with Invermectin 1.87% regular rice sized grain size, however, I can't seem to find except in the states and Revolution is prescription only. I've posted to see if any neighbours have from vet or anyone can give so i can treat. I have help so I've person can feed other squirrels and i can give to just this 1 or all 3.
What would you experts recommend and does it look/sound like mange or squirrelpox?
You are all absolutely amazing for what you do. ❤️
Thanks so much,
Amber
stepnstone
12-04-2021, 03:03 AM
I've not dealt with Pox personally, I have many times with mange.
Unfortunately this does look like pox...
Pox can be treatable if the right med can be obtained.
Below is our forum with info on pox, different meds and results.
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?165-Squirrel-Pox
Unfortunately, i did find all the names of meds but i can't seem to find any online even natural stuff. If it because a lot of threads are outdated
Google should find anything and in an avid online shopper. Bring in Canada and no access with rehabbers far away and not able to send. I feel hopeless and for this little guy kicks it's but like has been for months. 2 others hopefully don't get as bad.
Can anyone send and help me with dosage for under 2lb guy. I'll stop giving nuts that's for sure but others won't know and feel bad for it. Help!!
Also i know it looks like it in photos but no bumps, just swollen eye but let's see if gets worse.
Mel1959
12-04-2021, 06:37 AM
I can send you acyclovir if you send me your address in a private message. It may take some time to get to you since I’m in Florida, but it’s at least something.
One of our admins, Island Rehabber, has treated pox. I didn’t go to the link that Step posted so I don’t know if it offers dosing help or what other immune support it lists. I do know that offering immune support is beneficial. You could reach out to Island Rehabber for information on dosing. The medication I will send is 1000 mg tablets.
island rehabber
12-04-2021, 09:07 AM
With all due respect to stepnstone and Mel, both of whom I adore, I don't think this is pox. Mange starts on the ears and around the eyes and face, and that's what it looks like to me. pox would have the squirrel with bumps on fingers and toes and bumps around the ears and shoulders --warty things , very visible ...again I don't believe this is pox and thank goodness it isn't,because mange can be treated with the horse wormer Ivreremectin. Pox is a much different story.
CritterMom
12-04-2021, 09:44 AM
With all due respect to stepnstone and Mel, both of whom I adore, I don't think this is pox. Mange starts on the ears and around the eyes and face, and that's what it looks like to me. pox would have the squirrel with bumps on fingers and toes and bumps around the ears and shoulders --warty things , very visible ...again I don't believe this is pox and thank goodness it isn't,because mange can be treated with the horse wormer Ivreremectin. Pox is a much different story.
I am gonna have to argue with you here. You may need to enlarge the pics to see it better but you can clearly see the warty lesions around the eye. I say pox. Most of the adult squirrels I have treated in the wild have heavy lesions around the eyes and base of the ears, exactly like this poor little one. Since it is a mosquito vectored illness, and mosquitos hang out in areas of heavy vegetation, which squirrels push their way through with their faces, I think it is often the point of the initial infection.
I have treated bunches of wild squirrels though happily not in the past couple years, and I always treat for both pox AND mange. The immune system is taking a massive hit from the pox and that is a PERFECT situation for mange to also pop up.
With all due respect to stepnstone and Mel, both of whom I adore, I don't think this is pox. Mange starts on the ears and around the eyes and face, and that's what it looks like to me. pox would have the squirrel with bumps on fingers and toes and bumps around the ears and shoulders --warty things , very visible ...again I don't believe this is pox and thank goodness it isn't,because mange can be treated with the horse wormer Ivreremectin. Pox is a much different story.
I have no idea. My Google search told me mange but then rehabber over the phone said possibly pox. It did start with just the tail, no hair, was like that for months and now the eyes with no fur and right eye was swollen. There are no lesions that I can see. The skin actually looked real clear. After taking the photo i was like these look worse than in person but this day i took it did look bit worse. K figured maybe from itching. No blood though and I'm just glad he's still being squirrel and hope with help he'll get better.
The other 2 I'll try treating as well I can't even find GNC enchinacea. Is this discontinued perhaps? Any other recommendations that you can find online?
I have no problem trying to treat for both.
The other 2 with barely any fur on tail should i treat for mange?
Here's a pic of him October 24. Just his tail.
I'll try getting pic of other 2, they have fur but just a fluff and other seems to be growing back. - which is why i thought mange.
Thanks again so much!
Please tell me i shouldn't be worried about this lil guy too? I was positive this is hereditary...
I am gonna have to argue with you here. You may need to enlarge the pics to see it better but you can clearly see the warty lesions around the eye. I say pox. Most of the adult squirrels I have treated in the wild have heavy lesions around the eyes and base of the ears, exactly like this poor little one. Since it is a mosquito vectored illness, and mosquitos hang out in areas of heavy vegetation, which squirrels push their way through with their faces, I think it is often the point of the initial infection.
I have treated bunches of wild squirrels though happily not in the past couple years, and I always treat for both pox AND mange. The immune system is taking a massive hit from the pox and that is a PERFECT situation for mange to also pop up.
So it looks worse today and more bubble-y now. Before was flat skin, just no hair, and then right eye started to swell and now left and near ears now. I feel helpless until i get the meds and find an immune booster. Is there any other brand that can work because walmart or the health planet store, strictly for that stuff, do not carry. I can't find online either, which is insane and driving me absolutely nuts.
We've already had snow here and in the negative temperatures so worried he may get frost bite since he's always out.
Should i be trying to capture him with a net since he does come close but scares easily, of course. Will stress be more harm than good?
Last 2 pics are of the others and it's just their tail. This is how the bad one started off months ago though.
Sorry last one didn't attach
With all due respect to stepnstone and Mel, both of whom I adore, I don't think this is pox. Mange starts on the ears and around the eyes and face, and that's what it looks like to me. pox would have the squirrel with bumps on fingers and toes and bumps around the ears and shoulders --warty things , very visible ...again I don't believe this is pox and thank goodness it isn't,because mange can be treated with the horse wormer Ivreremectin. Pox is a much different story.
New photos and definitely getting worse amd lesions now. Crazy how fast since his tail has been like that for I'd say 4-5months.
CritterMom
12-04-2021, 05:25 PM
I believe you were offered some acyclovir. If you can get your hands on that I can tell you how to mix it into what I call nut balls that you can use to treat him in the wild without having to trap him - as long as he shows every day for a "treat." You can't just leave them out because other squirrels will get them. I will tell you that it is a LONG treatment protocol - usually more than a month.
I usually either add some echinacea to the nut balls, or if I am treating multiple squirrels I add it to their water source as an immune booster.
His weird tail is actually unrelated and not dangerous. It is a fungus of the hair shaft that causes this. If you get close you will see that the skin of the tail is perfectly healthy. It usually disappears when they molt and grow new hair.
I believe you were offered some acyclovir. If you can get your hands on that I can tell you how to mix it into what I call nut balls that you can use to treat him in the wild without having to trap him - as long as he shows every day for a "treat." You can't just leave them out because other squirrels will get them. I will tell you that it is a LONG treatment protocol - usually more than a month.
I usually either add some echinacea to the nut balls, or if I am treating multiple squirrels I add it to their water source as an immune booster.
His weird tail is actually unrelated and not dangerous. It is a fungus of the hair shaft that causes this. If you get close you will see that the skin of the tail is perfectly healthy. It usually disappears when they molt and grow new hair.
Yes, i PM'd her this morning! Hopefully she gets and can get quickly. *Fingers crossed*
I'm here for the long run. I live right off the ravine and can go every day except dec 22 as I'll be in london for nephew's bday but my friend can do, whom I actually met to warn her about my squirrels i was releasing cuz she feeds some by hand lol
Anything i can do to make this babe better i will! I will definitely need dosage. I would say weight around 600 , maybe bit more as plumping for winter. I truly hope it'll eat because some of these wilds just want nuts since so spoiled. I've tried feeding natural peanut butter balls with kaytee thar i had left from my rehabs also fruit, no go for most lol
Seems as though the states has a lot more resources and rehabbers and willing to do anything to help. Less here the busier they are. I'm trying hard phoning around and no dice except one that couldn't come here of course as too far.
Truly appreciate everyone's help. I couldn't imagine ift ths happened to my babies. I guess if I rehab annd get a sanctuary one day i will have to learn to let go easier when need be. Strong women you all are ❤️ sorry for the blab. I hate seeing helpless animals suffer.
Any immune boosters you can recommend since I can't find the GNC brand Enchinacea. Also what to dose for that?
Mel1959
12-04-2021, 07:26 PM
I have three 1000mg tablets set to mail out on Monday morning. Is this enough medication or should I add more? I’m sorry I didn’t see the pm soon enough to get it in the mail today. :sniff
There used to be a immune booster that was available online. I think it was called Liquid Immune Barrier put out by California Academy of Health. I’m not sure if it’s still available or not.
CritterMom
12-04-2021, 08:09 PM
I have three 1000mg tablets set to mail out on Monday morning. Is this enough medication or should I add more? I’m sorry I didn’t see the pm soon enough to get it in the mail today. :sniff
There used to be a immune booster that was available online. I think it was called Liquid Immune Barrier put out by California Academy of Health. I’m not sure if it’s still available or not.
Sent you a PM. BTW, they have discontinues Liquid Immune Barrier, unfortunately. I know that IR used Nutriferon which is available at Amazon - it is a Shaklee product.
Is gnc the only one that tends to work? Unfortunately, there is non in Canada. Oh Canada 🤦🏼 will a Weber's brand or any other do?
I have three 1000mg tablets set to mail out on Monday morning. Is this enough medication or should I add more? I’m sorry I didn’t see the pm soon enough to get it in the mail today. :sniff
There used to be a immune booster that was available online. I think it was called Liquid Immune Barrier put out by California Academy of Health. I’m not sure if it’s still available or not.
It's okay i know how busy you must be! These little guys are always a handful!
Perfect! I'm not sure the dosing so not sure how much for a month long process... Someone will have to send me that info and how to make the balls so this wild guy will take. I have someone to distract the others while i make sure he's the one go get it! She also does reiki on animals interesting.
I ordered the nutriferon but shows arrival after Christmas. The struggles are real in Canada EH lol
Thamk you thank you thank you!
island rehabber
12-04-2021, 10:51 PM
New photos and definitely getting worse amd lesions now. Crazy how fast since his tail has been like that for I'd say 4-5months.
I apologize, then -- going only by these pix i did not see lesions.
Order some Nutriferon via Amazon -- pricey but effective in boosting the immune system ...mix 1 tablet in 40cc water and give 0.1ml 2x day.
Sent you a PM. BTW, they have discontinues Liquid Immune Barrier, unfortunately. I know that IR used Nutriferon which is available at Amazon - it is a Shaklee product.
Didn't get your pm for recipe but i sent you a message to make it easy to reply ��
Unfortunately, i don't receive that $100 immune booster until after Christmas or says. Coming from US lol but will need how many to add with the Acyclovir and how to make the but balls since a wild.
I apologize, then -- going only by these pix i did not see lesions.
Order some Nutriferon via Amazon -- pricey but effective in boosting the immune system ...mix 1 tablet in 40cc water and give 0.1ml 2x day.
No worries there were no lesions except the one swollen eye yesterday and now a bunch. It was completely flat skin before so others are phychic lol
I'm just waiting on recipe for nut balls since it's a wild squirrel and lives right by a creek so there's no way it'll drink my water, unfortunately.
I apologize, then -- going only by these pix i did not see lesions.
Order some Nutriferon via Amazon -- pricey but effective in boosting the immune system ...mix 1 tablet in 40cc water and give 0.1ml 2x day.
Am i reading this right....i would only need to use 1 tablet? 1 will be good for 200 days? total .2ml/day, 5 days with 1cc making 40cc total with only 1 tablet? Or do you throw out that remainder made? I feel dumb right now lol and 3 tablets 1000mgs of Acyclovir will be enough for month or so treatment?
Mel1959
12-05-2021, 07:48 AM
Crittermom asked if I could send 5, which I easily can. She knows how to break it down and dose and will get that info too you. I hope these arrive quickly. :eek
Crittermom asked if I could send 5, which I easily can. She knows how to break it down and dose and will get that info too you. I hope these arrive quickly. :eek
Aw thank you so much!
Can't wait to start treating this lil one! I am about to go check on him now 🙃 i got called snow white yesterday by an older guy lol said surrounded by all the animals in a forrest 😆
I also just found a recipe for immune balls from a lady that posted last year in Guelph ON. Rrally great recoveries for small and wild squirrels and because we don't have the resources in Canada. Good to know for future! I already bought the expensive nutriferon though and all the ingredients she uses is double and to only use few capsules out of them. So I'll await the recipefor nutriferon as well.
Again you all are truly amazing!
I apologize, then -- going only by these pix i did not see lesions.
Order some Nutriferon via Amazon -- pricey but effective in boosting the immune system ...mix 1 tablet in 40cc water and give 0.1ml 2x day.
Just double checking it's only .1ml twice/day i have to add to the nut ball I'm giving in morning for Acyclovir and then I'll give another later on. I see in another thread from 2010 that it's 1ml per 1lb though ��. If given more will it hurt him? Even though natural he's teeny compared to us lol hoping this comes in the next couple days cuz the Acyclovir may be a bit.
island rehabber
12-06-2021, 07:32 AM
Just double checking it's only .1ml twice/day i have to add to the nut ball I'm giving in morning for Acyclovir and then I'll give another later on. I see in another thread from 2010 that it's 1ml per 1lb though ��. If given more will it hurt him? Even though natural he's teeny compared to us lol hoping this comes in the next couple days cuz the Acyclovir may be a bit.
It won't hurt him; it's not like ivermectin which must be precise. Especially with a wild, eating a nut ball, you never know how much of it he's really getting in. The Nutriferon is for humans, so it's quite safe. My pox squirrels got a cocktail of Acyclovir, Nutriferon AND SMZ/TMP with no troubles whatsoever.
It won't hurt him; it's not like ivermectin which must be precise. Especially with a wild, eating a nut ball, you never know how much of it he's really getting in. The Nutriferon is for humans, so it's quite safe. My pox squirrels got a cocktail of Acyclovir, Nutriferon AND SMZ/TMP with no troubles whatsoever.
Okay, perfect! That makes me feel whole lot better. I will follow correct steps for the meds though and for nutriferon I won't be crazy OCD about it. Sorry to bombard all of you. I just want to do this correctly and help him asap!
❤️
Kind regards,
Amber
Mel1959
12-06-2021, 05:11 PM
I got your package in the mail this morning. The postal guy couldn’t tell me when it would arrive……especially because of the holidays. It will be sent by air but as an oversized envelope there is no tracking number. :shakehead:shakehead
I fear that it might not arrive in time to help your most critical guy, but because pox is contagious you should be able to help any subsequent infections in other squirrels. I’m sorry I’m so far away and couldn’t just hand off the medication to you. :sniff
I got your package in the mail this morning. The postal guy couldn’t tell me when it would arrive……especially because of the holidays. It will be sent by air but as an oversized envelope there is no tracking number. :shakehead:shakehead
I fear that it might not arrive in time to help your most critical guy, but because pox is contagious you should be able to help any subsequent infections in other squirrels. I’m sorry I’m so far away and couldn’t just hand off the medication to you. :sniff
Thank you soooo much! You're amazing! I picked up some natural ingredients (above) from that long winded recipe from a lady in guelph with a horrible baby that has pox and survived so i have hopes! This ones either a juvenile or adult but wild and always has been so i hope it kicks it's butt. I just hope others don't catch but i am keeping my eye out big time.
I get nutriferon on Wednesday in the mail!
🤞🏻🤞🏻
Thank you all!
Update he just took his first immune booster ball, but not with nutriferon because it is arriving tomorrow. I could not for the life of me get close to him but was able to throw him a ball. It's -3 here today so took 5 minutes for the squirrels in that lil area to come out. He went to the creek and i saw him licking the snow because i think he got frustrated trying to get down for water. I threw a blueberry cuz he was running away from me and another ball but he found the blueberry first and another squirrel was going after the ball lol chase the other away and grabbed and tried again. Will try before time for bed. I believe he's actually fully blind in his right eye now :( but he does tfinlly have fur growth on his tail.
Not sure if he'll make it through our harsh winter but capturing him clearly not going to happen. Poor thing, if only they could talk.
My concern is his roommate i noticed has a little bald spot. Should i just keep my eye out, feed him some immune boosters and any sign of a lesion start on meds(once they arrive)?
Mel1959
12-07-2021, 03:07 PM
Yes, I would treat any that you see that have lesions or skin/fur issues. I don’t think either the immune booster or the meds are going to hurt them if they don’t have pox.
Yes, I would treat any that you see that have lesions or skin/fur issues. I don’t think either the immune booster or the meds are going to hurt them if they don’t have pox.
Awesome!! Thank you!
To brighten up your day here's a beautiful ombré boy Winnie! My hair matches him with my horrible roots lol
Mel1959
12-08-2021, 06:41 AM
Winnie is adorable!:klunk:Love_Icon. We don’t have any unique colored squirrels where I live….just various shades of brown/gray. :(
Charley Chuckles
12-08-2021, 08:06 AM
Winnie is most handsome 😍
Update: this lil fur babe is getting worse. Unfortunately, o haven't received the meds. I'm also wondering if you all think this is also mange serving these? He has none that i can see on paws. I'm going to try again trapping him tomorrow with someone. He only likes coming out afternoon. Tomorrow is 15 out here so hoping for the best!hr doesn't tend to come out if less than 3 degrees out. Way too cold and not many squirrels out. Today was 6 degrees, rainy and counted 23 squirrels around me. This is what happens when everyone feeds them lol
It's not allowing me to post other pics so I'll post separately of ones that look similar or mange or fungal infection. Most have their nice thick coat and getting fluffy.
So the first photo (guy in the grass) is of one that hasno gur on tail as well but was fully furred elsewhere and now thinning out. Not sure if molting but looks rough.
Other photos are probably out of order but this is other one i figured is pox. Found him 4 days ago and treating with immune booster balls. He looked bloody originally and now better, was dried out more and smaller
Hoping it's working.
For my other bad shaped guy should i give some metacam? It's only thing a retired vet pharmacist has. He says his connections state they must see the animal to perscribe (typical here in Canada and wish they cared more and would come look gor themselves). What is the dosage if so for I'm guessing around 600g. Do you all think i should try ivermectin paste 1.87%? Not that i have but i can find online and calling a store tomorrow.
Anyone opposed to also treating for mange? This girl is getting A LOT worse, although her eye is more open now. Going to try catching tomorrow as seems to let me get closer and plus 2 out. Other girl seems to be getting better but wasn't as far along.
Spanky
12-28-2021, 06:08 PM
Anyone opposed to also treating for mange? This girl is getting A LOT worse, although her eye is more open now. Going to try catching tomorrow as seems to let me get closer and plus 2 out. Other girl seems to be getting better but wasn't as far along.
If you are planing to catch, make sure you have a full plan in place... cage prepared, warm, dark, quiet.
I'd treat for mange with Revolution (plain selamectin, not the "+" versions with other ingredients) versus Ivermectin if that is an option.
Do you have adequate acyclovir (Zovirax) or Valacyclovir (Valtrex) to treat her?
If you are planing to catch, make sure you have a full plan in place... cage prepared, warm, dark, quiet.
I'd treat for mange with Revolution (plain selamectin, not the "+" versions with other ingredients) versus Ivermectin if that is an option.
Do you have adequate acyclovir (Zovirax) or Valacyclovir (Valtrex) to treat her?
My plan is to drive hour and half to a rehabber/sanctuary where I drove my baby who dislocated her shoulder. They advised to capture few weeks ago but I've had no success. They have all the tools and meds seven gas to knock get out, xray machines and surgery vets to help and over-winterize her until better. She's bare on back and they advised with no fur on tail will be tough to survive winter.
Unfortunately, my resources are limited in Canada. Revolution I found online without prescription but comes from Australia so won't get for couple months.
I received 5 pills of Valacylovir just before xmas from a kind lady above, Michelle from Florida. Im treating 2 squirrels so i just made my second batch and have 3 left. I'm keeping my eye on all the other squirrels as a lot seem to have fungal infections, losing fur and look like this one did back in summer with no fur on tail and now thinning out all over... Including her roommates. But no sign of lesions of bleeding.
I'm going to post on my neighborhood app if anyone has Revolution but not sure we have here. :(
Are you able to send dosing on it inside i get? 2.7mg per lb i think i read but how to put that in a nut ball since wild?
Spanky
12-28-2021, 08:29 PM
The rehabber place you found seems like a life saver...
Unfortunately, my resources are limited in Canada. Revolution I found online without prescription but comes from Australia so won't get for couple months.
If you are ordering from Joe's in Australia, it usually arrived to me in less than two weeks, just FYI, but that was pre-pandemic. Not sure if it takes longer to CA.
Are you able to send dosing on it inside i get? 2.7mg per lb i think i read but how to put that in a nut ball since wild?
Dosing for the Revolution? Just one drop (not the entire vile) on the back of her neck if you can... it can be given orally if not. I treat wilds by drilling a hole in an almond and placing a drop in that hole.
If you are referring to doing something else, let me know what and I (or someone) will send a PM with dosing.
The rehabber place you found seems like a life saver...
If you are ordering from Joe's in Australia, it usually arrived to me in less than two weeks, just FYI, but that was pre-pandemic. Not sure if it takes longer to CA.
Dosing for the Revolution? Just one drop (not the entire vile) on the back of her neck if you can... it can be given orally if not. I treat wilds by drilling a hole in an almond and placing a drop in that hole.
If you are referring to doing something else, let me know what and I (or someone) will send a PM with dosing.
Unfortunately, they website isn't working but i found on fruugo.ca that ships to Canada. The person i found from said took 2 months. I'm afraid this girl won't make it couple weeks. Shocks me every day when i see her out. I really hope I catch her as weather is suppose to be a lil warmer so maybe she'll come out more. If i drop her off and she gets better I'll be oicking her up come spring to bring her back. Bonus I get to see my baby girls again. ❤️
I'll let you know if i get my hands on anything here. Really upsetting having such a hard time to help wild animals here in Canada.
Mel1959
12-29-2021, 07:13 AM
If you need me to send more meds, I’m happy to do that. I know it took a while for you to receive them so it would be better to get them in the mail before you run out and need them.
I’ll have to check and see that I still have your address…
island rehabber
12-29-2021, 08:42 AM
I am so sorry you're having so much trouble getting what you need to save these squirrels. The "lady from Guelph" that you mention is one kick-ass rehabber, but even she is not really rehabbing anymore due to difficulties in Canada. Any of the immune-booster ingredients that she mentions will help your guys -- I used some in treating my pox squirrels as well but some were impossible to find here in the US! :dono I am sending you all the good energies possible for curing your little friends!
CritterMom
12-29-2021, 09:21 AM
If you can lay your hands on some ivermectin, I ALWAYS use it in conjunction with the antivirals when I treat for pox. The deterioration of the immune system from being ill with the virus leaves them WIDE open to mange. I know that folks here don't like it but it truly will work. You just don't want to give a massive overdose. If Canada is anything like the US, people have likely purchased all of it from the farm stores though. Another option is to visit any stables in your area. You could stuff all of the ivermectin you need to treat a squirrel under a fingernail - giving you that much from a tube for one of their horses is going to make ZERO impact on their ability to worm them. If I still had my horse and someone asked my for that amount of ivermectin I would turn it over in a second.
It isn't quite the same as some of the other immune boosters, but surely you can find some echinacea. It doesn't need to be any particular brand.
TubeDriver
12-29-2021, 09:37 AM
I would treat with Ivermectin on top of any meds for the Pox. The easiest way to use Ivermectin is to get the horse paste type in a tube. It is 1.87% strength and comes flavored. Knead the tube to mix up the contents and give a white rice sized amount of the ivermectin orally on a nut treat. Repeat in 7 days.
Chirps
12-29-2021, 12:55 PM
I would treat with Ivermectin on top of any meds for the Pox. The easiest way to use Ivermectin is to get the horse paste type in a tube. It is 1.87% strength and comes flavored. Knead the tube to mix up the contents and give a white rice sized amount of the ivermectin orally on a nut treat. Repeat in 7 days.
I have never seen Ivermectin in a kneadable tube. I only see it in a solid plastic syringe with the dosage markings on the plunger.
Thank you so much for the offer Mel and i will let you know if need more! Right now i should have 40 days left for 2 squirrels.
The other guy is looking really good and getting better every day but he only had around eyes and started him on immune booster balls Dec 7 and once i received the meds started right away, even though he was improving without I didn't want to take a chance. When do i stop the meds? Once all lesions/bare skin gone?
The bad one i double dosed, as recommended i think by crittermom when she gave recipe and saw how bad he was (before last photos). He unfortunately, didn't come out 2 days because was snowing and so cold but i had got the double doses in before that. Weather great past couple days and he comes running to me and after he's done again comes, so appetite is up and eating faster. Tried to just catch him with my jacket this morning as I forgot blanket since he's normally only out in afternoon surprised me 2 days in a row being out early. But I'm still going to continue to try getting it because we're going into negative temperatures Sunday. I believe he has 3 roomates rather than 2 but keeping my eye out.
Quite a few are missing fur so must be a fungal infection going on as no scabbing and beautiful skin underneath. 1 lil guy i posted above no tail and thinned out is very small, not a roommate, but seems to be losing more. Others have patches usually on backs. I wish they were easy to diagnose and easier to trap.
Thank you i do know the invermectin dosing as have read on squirrel board before but can't get hands on. I am waiting for my brother's girlfriends dad who owns horses to get some in. Has been hard to get here because of covid... Also guess some idiots thought they could take and help them with covid so they don't randomly sell on shelves LOL sold out on squirrelsandmore.com, amazon.com doesn't ship to Canada and sold out on .ca. I'm waiting on a place about 40minutes away to return call if they carry it.
The struggles are real!
Oh wow, i messaged the Guelph lady and guess that's why didn't get a response. I actually called the centre she's from but no return call. I wanted someone to try and trap and she's not too far.
I have a great place but i just hope their choice isn't to euthanize, especially seeing how bad the Guelph ladies baby squirrel was who ended up surviving.
I am so sorry you're having so much trouble getting what you need to save these squirrels. The "lady from Guelph" that you mention is one kick-ass rehabber, but even she is not really rehabbing anymore due to difficulties in Canada. Any of the immune-booster ingredients that she mentions will help your guys -- I used some in treating my pox squirrels as well but some were impossible to find here in the US! :dono I am sending you all the good energies possible for curing your little friends!
Very tough here because of the sources and they aren't government funded, solely rely on donations. Is the states funded or same thing? At least easier to get a vet or medication online. Here is. Real struggle. So sad.
If you need me to send more meds, I’m happy to do that. I know it took a while for you to receive them so it would be better to get them in the mail before you run out and need them.
I’ll have to check and see that I still have your address…
Thank you so much! Sorry I replied to everyone in the thread but wanted to personally thank you. I should be good but will message you if i feel i need more woth few weeks (mailing time) to spare. :)
If you need me to send more meds, I’m happy to do that. I know it took a while for you to receive them so it would be better to get them in the mail before you run out and need them.
I’ll have to check and see that I still have your address…
Fyi Mel says you've exceeded your storage and need to delete so i couldn't reply to PM. :)
TubeDriver
12-29-2021, 03:32 PM
Yea, I just checked and my versions are solid tube. I squirt some out and then pull it back into the tube, try to mix it up a bit.
I have never seen Ivermectin in a kneadable tube. I only see it in a solid plastic syringe with the dosage markings on the plunger.
Is there anyone closer to Canada that can express ship Revolution or a bit of Ivermectin? I ordered some but states jan 18-22 arrival, which most likely will be too late. Called around to all the horse stores yesterday and they're out of stock. I can only get Revolution perscribed here. Even esbilac formula is out of stock but found for double the price on amazon. Had a break down after they said in stock online and drove in traffic to only be told it's out of stock and the other store stating only few left was out as well. Order online for same day delivery and they're all out of stock around me. I donated almost a full thing in August too and only kept 1/2 cup that i already used. I thought it was a sign saying save your money and let nature take its coarse for once. :'(
Someone said they only have 99lb dog Revolution chewables. He's a retired vet pharmacist and said could break down and dilute with nuts? Any thoughts since i can't get my hands on anything.
Chirps
12-30-2021, 10:39 AM
Hi. Did you check your private messages?
Just wanted to thank you all for taking your time to reply! Special fhanks to Mel, Spanky and Chirps!! :grouphug i have some more Valacylovir coming so I don't run out. Also Revolution and Ivermectin on the way!!! And esbilac which was in the original immune booster recipe! Today has been an amazing day and it's only noon! Things are looking up and the really bad one made it better by running up to me in excitement this morning. :bliss weather has been great past few days and just hope Poxy still has the energy come negative 5, which sounds much better in Fahrenheit to me of 23 lol
Thank you all SOSO much you are truly amazing kind hearted souls :Love_Icon it's happy tears today! :grin3
Just asking since i can grab this from someone right now... This is way too strong but is there a way to split up to give? Crumble up to 100 pieces and give 1? Lol i just wanna get something in him asap but will wait for mail if still hurt him.
TubeDriver
12-30-2021, 07:09 PM
That contains two medications, ivermectin and pyrantel. So you can't separate the doses. The problem is that while I can dose this correctly for the ivermectin, the level of pyrantel in that dose will be MUCH, MUCH too high. So I would not use this medication.
Just asking since i can grab this from someone right now... This is way too strong but is there a way to split up to give? Crumble up to 100 pieces and give 1? Lol i just wanna get something in him asap but will wait for mail if still hurt him.
That contains two medications, ivermectin and pyrantel. So you can't separate the doses. The problem is that while I can dose this correctly for the ivermectin, the level of pyrantel in that dose will be MUCH, MUCH too high. So I would not use this medication.
I thought so. Thank you so much for letting me know!
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