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RamiS
11-20-2021, 07:34 PM
Hi everyone,
I placed an order a week ago for henry blocks, and for the first time in 7 years the package is late, by a lot. So as of two days ago I have no blocks for my boy. A while back i purchased the MBD package from Henry's so I have the Vitamin package, calcium and protein packages. What more should I go out and buy? (I heard like snow flakes, pumpkin puree)
Can someone please tell me what to put in the mix, how much should I use for each ingredient just to get him to eat it and I only need to make enough for maybe 8 blocks until I get the Henry's blocks in the mail
also please tell me how to mix it all and I have a small oven so what setting should I use, Temp and time
Thank you thank you thank you :serene
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Mel1959
11-21-2021, 07:21 AM
Here’s a link to the homemade block recipe. https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?58757-Homemade-squirrel-block-recipe&highlight=Homemade+block+recipe
RamiS
11-21-2021, 10:28 AM
Here’s a link to the homemade block recipe. https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?58757-Homemade-squirrel-block-recipe&highlight=Homemade+block+recipe
Thank you Mel. I will take the measurements from that thread, I want to add some of this stuff: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Beech-Nut-Naturals-Stage-2-Carrots-Sweet-Corn-Pumpkin-Baby-Food-4-oz-Jar/51258952
Seems good on the sugar, right?
I want to also add some coconut unsweetened flakes, just a serving :)
But I am still unsure about about the oven, I tried one yesterday and within 20 min it was toast!!!! should I keep it on the very lower level or middle? and an hour and a half seems a lot!
Mel1959
11-21-2021, 10:40 AM
Yes, you can add baby food but you might need to adjust the recipe by adding more flour. You can also purchase coconut flour and use that instead of wheat flour.
The temperature for the oven is 205 degrees. That’s a very low oven temp and why they need to be baked for 1 1/2 hours.
RamiS
11-21-2021, 10:59 AM
Yes, you can add baby food but you might need to adjust the recipe by adding more flour. You can also purchase coconut flour and use that instead of wheat flour.
The temperature for the oven is 205 degrees. That’s a very low oven temp and why they need to be baked for 1 1/2 hours.
Ok :)
I only have regular baking powder and it has aluminum in it!! and only have red mill baking flour
RamiS
11-21-2021, 11:47 AM
I just did it without baking powder and no flour.
I added the following:
Henry's Protein & Vita and a tsp of Henry's calcium
1 serving of unsweetened coconut flakes
70 grams of grounded walnuts
20 grams low sugar baby food (organic)
4 grams vanilla extract
1 egg
mix dry then mixed all and now in the foil pans in the over at 205 F and 1.5 hours
We shall see :tap
RamiS
11-21-2021, 04:47 PM
not great!!! they look great, sure they taste good, but they are so hard!!! guess I need to wait for the Henry blocks to get here! Thanks Mel.
Diggie's Friend
11-21-2021, 05:39 PM
I wouldn't recommend the Beechnut puree; it says it includes corn, which is very high in phosphorus vs. calcium. This alone disqualifes this source as a good one to use; save the total of phosphorus and the calcium in the diet including that of other foods included daily is first determined, so that an appropriate addition of calcium be added to offset the high phosphorus content of this source. For research has confirmed that a closer ratio than that of 1.4 promotes the development of kidney stones, diabetes, and supports the developement of MBD in rodents.
Frozen butternut squash has a positive (Ca:P) ratio that doesn't lower or invert the (Ca:P) ratio of the diet. Baked butternut squash is also a very good source of Beta-carotene and both soluble and insoluble.
Whether you were to choose to use Butternut squash for a recipe or just to feed by itself as a daily staple; storing baked BN squash long-term to preserve requires it be frozen, not refridgerated, for squash stored in the fridge for more than 3 days will begin to mold.
Using mini silicone cube trays like this one; place approx. (1 Tbsp.) of baked BN squash into each cube pocket; then place the entire tray with lid into a zippered freezer bag. Then close the zip down on a straw inserted at the closing end, and suck out the air, and seal.
https://www.amazon.com/Ice-Cube-Tray...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
RamiS
11-21-2021, 05:45 PM
I wouldn't recommend the Beechnut puree; it says it includes corn, which is very high in phosphorus vs. calcium. This alone disqualifes this source as a good one to use; save the total of phosphorus and the calcium in the diet including that of other foods included daily is first determined, so that an appropriate addition of calcium be added to offset the high phosphorus content of this source. For research has confirmed that a closer ratio than that of 1.4 promotes the development of kidney stones, diabetes, and supports the developement of MBD in rodents.
Frozen butternut squash has a positive (Ca:P) ratio that doesn't lower or invert the (Ca:P) ratio of the diet. Baked butternut squash is also a very good source of Beta-carotene and both soluble and insoluble.
Whether you were to choose to use Butternut squash for a recipe or just to feed by itself as a daily staple; storing baked BN squash long-term to preserve requires it be frozen, not refridgerated, for squash stored in the fridge for more than 3 days will begin to mold.
Using mini silicone cube trays like this one; place approx. (1 Tbsp.) of baked BN squash into each cube pocket; then place the entire tray with lid into a zippered freezer bag. Then close the zip down on a straw inserted at the closing end, and suck out the air, and seal.
https://www.amazon.com/Ice-Cube-Tray...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
Thanks Diggie! We will just wait 2 more days until we get the henry blocks in the mail!! For now, avocados and snap peas with henry peanut stick as a treat and 2 blueberries a day will do. I think he should be ok. It will be a total of 5 days without the blocks.
Mel1959
11-21-2021, 06:11 PM
not great!!! they look great, sure they taste good, but they are so hard!!! guess I need to wait for the Henry blocks to get here! Thanks Mel.
The lack of baking powder is undoubtedly what made them hard as with no baking powder they wouldn’t rise. He won’t eat them at all?
RamiS
11-21-2021, 07:31 PM
The lack of baking powder is undoubtedly what made them hard as with no baking powder they wouldn’t rise. He won’t eat them at all?
He ate some of one block, but now I am not sure if I should give him anymore since Diggie said the pumpkin baby food is not good.!!
Diggie's Friend
11-22-2021, 01:45 AM
Baked squash added to a recipe will soften the biscuit. Like HHB it should be frozen to preserve its use.
And though pumpkin, not when combined with corn and carrots, isn't an issue, as it is the same family of gords "curcurbita" as squash is.
For more on the differences between pumpkin squash, and butternut squash:
https://foodiosity.com/pumpkin-vs-butternut-squash/
RamiS
11-22-2021, 02:28 PM
How do you feed butternut squash? raw or baked? I gave him a few pieces raw! should I start backing it from now on?
Mel1959
11-22-2021, 04:10 PM
You have to take what Diggie says with a grain of salt. Her complaint was that the pumpkin baby food you used had corn in it which is high in phosphorous. You’re not making these blocks a steady diet for him so I don’t think it matters. Nuts are high in phosphorous too, but they’re in Henry’s blocks and the Henry’s vitamins have calcium to counteract the phosphorous. I’d feed them to him. He’s not gonna develop MBD over the next few weeks by consuming the blocks you made.
I feed squash both ways. Sometimes I put chunks of sweet potato or squash in a bowl of water and zap it in the microwave for a minute to soften it slightly.
Diggie's Friend
11-22-2021, 04:27 PM
I agree; it isn't likely he would develop MBD over the next two weeks. Should though you decide to include this source because he likes the taste; I would advise adding calcium to the recipe as that can ensure there is no issues Ca:P ratio wise. :)
RamiS
11-22-2021, 07:24 PM
Ok, No worries. I got the henry blocks today finally. :)
I did bake some butter nut squash today but he wanted nothing to do with it. He loves it raw though.
Mel1959
11-22-2021, 07:40 PM
Raw is fine. :grin2
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