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Snicker Bar
07-31-2021, 10:50 AM
Doodles my neuro has been off Amox /Clav for one week now. She was prescribed to take it 28 days per Dr. Emerson for her odontoma/extractions . I also have allowed her a few brief out of cage times in her outside play area with fat Sis Dandies. Only in evenings , it’s so hot.
Last night when I was hand feeding her, I found dried , yellow spots of discharge on her fur on rear legs and tail. I also saw a glob coming from her swollen vulva. I know they swell during heat cycles, but I’ve never seen dried goo on the hair or actually seen ANYTHING coming out. And for the fact it’s yellow, worried me it’s purulent /puss??
She ate well, didn’t feel hot. I knee jerked and mixed up some Baytril, was all I had in the house last night.
Is their estrus stuff usually colored?? And profuse enough it could stick to their hair? Granted, she’s neuro , and may not groom as well as the other girls , but still in all her 6 years I’ve never seen this on her or any of them. Even my para Victoria whom I clean /see her stuff twice daily .
Is this concerning?
Will try and get pics this AM
CritterMom
07-31-2021, 02:51 PM
So here is an outside the box thought... I couldn't quite link a UTI with a squirrel that had been on 28 days of amoxiclav up to a week ago. But what about an antibiotic induced yeast infection? That was a long antibiotic run. Can you culture for that - I know you have to look for yeast on the skin of dogs and cats when they have skin issues.
Snicker Bar
07-31-2021, 07:06 PM
I wanted to get pics but the goo wasn’t there this AM. Just a little in hair, and I cleaned that up.
It did have an odor,
She ate well and seems her normal self but I’ll do that (culture) . Maybe try som yogurt too.
It was a long time to be on antibiotic it seemed, but she was very adamant it continued 4 weeks post op, so didn’t want to let anything worse happen :(
Diggie's Friend
07-31-2021, 07:07 PM
Our female squirrel consistently developed candida yeast infections during her heats presenting with a creamy discharge that towards the end of the heat firmed up into a cheesy consistency. Our vet upon examing her explained that this wasn't a UTI, but a yeast infection aka: (Candida) meaning white, that was never resolved with AB that were given. Back then, about 20 years ago, without a source of soil bacteria available to maintain good gut bacteria level over the bad forms, I had to manually gently expel the cheesy sticky discharge towards the end of the heats when it plugged up her oriface. Now it is becoming more common to see noted on Veterinary websites that recommend using probiotics with prebiotics, aka: (symbiotics), as they are the source found consistently effective to counter candida yeast (white vaginal discharge) infections associated with heats in small mammals.
And though there are times to use AB to knock out other forms of infections; because AB may be non-specific, destroying the good bacteria with the bad including that which is located in the gut that makes up over 70 percent of the whole body immune system, resupplying the gut with a broad spectrum source of, 'soil based good bacteria' is vital to supplement when giving AB.
Recently a fellow member of this board was advised to do this by their veterinairan for their squirrel after surgery when an AB were given to prevent a secondary infection. Just make sure to give the SBO source about 4 hours apart from the AB given for infections other than candida, that they don't work on. In treating Candida yeast vaginitis, a higher dose than that for maintainence is needed, espescially when ABs have been used prior for another kind of infection to restore the good gut bacteria balance over the bad.
In research, probiotics given without prebiotic source that they feed upon, resulted in calcium bone loss in rats. Yet, probiotics with prebiotics, aka 'symbiotics' were found to increase calcium bone retention in rats.
This source of soil based probiotic with prebiotic, that contains no additives or flavors, is good to use for rodents in a reduced maintainence dose, not just cats and dogs. This same source was included in a 'research diet' provided by request for a female gray squirrel for 8 years, during which the squirrel did not develop any yeast infections or UTIs, nor other bacterial infections. At age 11, the bones and internal organs were examined under X-ray and reviewed in consultation by Dr. E. of Florida; no evidence of abnormality of the inner organs found on x-ray, nor was there any evidence of bladder or kidney stones present. The bones were also found to have good density.
The blood values were also reviewed at this time, and found to all be within normal range for the species.
For this condition begin with 1/16 Tsp. split fed with meals daily. Once the candida is gone, reduce to maintenance level at 1/64 Tsp. to 1/32 Tsp. daily. When the time of her heat approaches raise the level again to support her prophylactically by the increase.
https://www.amazon.com/Vitality-Science-Pet-Flora-Gastrointestinal/dp/B005PJN2HO/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=pet+flora+vitality+science+cats&qid=1627758814&s=pet-supplies&sr=1-4
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