Help me please (AKA) Squirrel05

[Samyuktha]

Hello I'm from India.. My squirrel breed is Indian palm squirrel.. My squirrel is 7 months old.. She suddenly felt ill and I can feel she is having pain in her stomach and now she is eating barely.. she can't even walk properly.. She can take only a few steps and then she will fall like exhausted..someone help me please I don't know whats going on

[Charley Chuckles]

Sorry to hear this. What exactly have you been feeding her?

[stepnstone]

Hello I'm from India.. My squirrel breed is Indian palm squirrel.. My squirrel is 7 months old.. She suddenly felt ill and I can feel she is having pain in her stomach and now she is eating barely.. she can't even walk properly.. She can take only a few steps and then she will fall like exhausted..someone help me please I don't know whats going on
Please tell us what is her diet, what all does she eat?
Is she provided any type rodent block?
Reason for asking...
Her falling could be related to mbd which is directly related to a diet
that does not provide the calcium required for a squirrels nutrition.
When their body is not getting the calcium that's needed it leeches
it from their bones. Mbd does effect body function, can cause paralysis.
It is painful. It can be turned around with prompt treating if this is what
is happening.

[Samyuktha]

Today I mixed some grined eggshells in her food and I fed her... Can I give her supplements which contains calcium and phosphorus?

[Samyuktha]

Please tell us what is her diet, what all does she eat?
Is she provided any type rodent block?
Reason for asking...
Her falling could be related to mbd which is directly related to a diet
that does not provide the calcium required for a squirrels nutrition.
When their body is not getting the calcium that's needed it leeches
it from their bones. Mbd does effect body function, can cause paralysis.
It is painful. It can be turned around with prompt treating if this is what
is happening.

I used to feed her with some cooked rice, fruits like apple, pomegranate and some dry fruits... And I also used to give her vimeral syrup which was suggested by my vet

[Mel1959]

Based on that diet this is probably MBD (metabolic bone disease). You should start her on some calcium. Find some calcium carbonate powder that doesn’t contain Vitamin D. You will want to dissolve it in something she’ll eat or something that can be given to her through a syringe. Here’s the link to MBD treatment. https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?32122-MBD-Treatment Yes, ground dried eggshells can be given as a source of calcium. https://tiphero.com/eggshell-calcium-powder

MBD is painful. Her bones are fragile. Prevent her from jumping or doing things where she could fall. MBD happens when a squirrels diet doesn’t contain enough calcium. The calcium is pulled from their bones to maintain the proper ratio for bodily functions to continue. It takes a while to restore the calcium levels in their bones so you have to be vigilant about giving her the necessary doses of calcium.

Moving forward she will need some type of rodent block to eat that provides the necessary nutrients.

[Samyuktha]

Based on that diet this is probably MBD (metabolic bone disease). You should start her on some calcium. Find some calcium carbonate powder that doesn’t contain Vitamin D. You will want to dissolve it in something she’ll eat or something that can be given to her through a syringe. Here’s the link to MBD treatment. https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?32122-MBD-Treatment

MBD is painful. Her bones are fragile. Prevent her from jumping or doing things where she could fall. MBD happens when a squirrels diet doesn’t contain enough calcium. The calcium is pulled from their bones to maintain the proper ratio for bodily functions to continue. It takes a while to restore the calcium levels in their bones so you have to be vigilant about giving her the necessary doses of calcium.

Moving forward she will need some type of rodent block to eat that provides the necessary nutrients.

Can I give her supplements contains calcium and phosphorus?

[Samyuktha]

I fed her food with some grineded eggshells mixed but there is no improvement in her activities... She is still dull and she makes some sound as if its aching and she also had dysentery..

[Mel1959]

I posted the link to MBD in my previous post. You need to follow it and give her the appropriate amount of calcium on a regular basis. It will take some time for her to recover.

Place a heating pad set on low under 1/2 of whatever she is sleeping in. Take care that she can’t chew the cord. If you don’t have a heating pad you can take some dry rice, put it in a sock, warm it in a microwave. Squish it around well to be sure there are no hot spots and then wrap it in a blanket and put it under her.

MBD if left untreated can cause seizures and death, so it’s imperative that you continue treatment. It won’t hurt her if it’s not MBD.

You don’t hear any clicking with her breathing, do you? No congestion in her nose?

[Samyuktha]

I posted the link to MBD in my previous post. You need to follow it and give her the appropriate amount of calcium on a regular basis. It will take some time for her to recover.

Place a heating pad set on low under 1/2 of whatever she is sleeping in. Take care that she can’t chew the cord. If you don’t have a heating pad you can take some dry rice, put it in a sock, warm it in a microwave. Squish it around well to be sure there are no hot spots and then wrap it in a blanket and put it under her.

MBD if left untreated can cause seizures and death, so it’s imperative that you continue treatment. It won’t hurt her if it’s not MBD.

You don’t hear any clicking with her breathing, do you? No congestion in her nose?

No I don't hear any clicking sound and no congestion in her nose but she is breathing rapidly.. is that normal?

[Mel1959]

It can be a sign of pain. MBD is painful. Do you have any liquid ibuprofen, like what is given to infants?

[Samyuktha]

It can be a sign of pain. MBD is painful. Do you have any liquid ibuprofen, like what is given to infants?

No i don't have it😢...i don't know what to do now

[Mel1959]

Did you read the MBD link and are you continuing to dose her with ground eggshells? It’s going to take far more than one dose to fix her. I also posted a link for the proper way to dry out and grind the eggshells.

[CritterMom]

What pain relievers do you have there that are intended for infant children?

Don't give calcium and phosphorus. Too much phosphorus and too little calcium in the diet is the REASON that MBD starts, so more phosphorus is exactly opposite of what you are looking for. You are better off using ground eggshell.

[Samyuktha]

Did you read the MBD link and are you continuing to dose her with ground eggshells? It’s going to take far more than one dose to fix her. I also posted a link for the proper way to dry out and grind the eggshells.

Yes I read.. And I'm continuing her dose.. Please pray for her

[Samyuktha]

What pain relievers do you have there that are intended for infant children?

Don't give calcium and phosphorus. Too much phosphorus and too little calcium in the diet is the REASON that MBD starts, so more phosphorus is exactly opposite of what you are looking for. You are better off using ground eggshell.

Sorry.. I don't have any pain relievers 😞

[PattyJ]

Can you go to the store for liquid Ibuprofen? Then Mel1959 could tell you how much to give? :Love_Icon

[Squirrel05]

Hello guys... Iam having 7 months old Indian palm squirrel... She is not doing good for past 2 days... I saw her biting some woods day before yesterday and then after some times she became dull and doesn't have her appetite...and she can't even walk properly... She use to take few steps and then she will stop and take some rest.. And she makes some sound as if its aching while moving .. I thought it was mbd and I gave her some grineded eggshells mixed up with her food...and then she also had her dysentery... She can't poop and pee properly... I don't really know what's going on... I'm confused between mbd and some other... Some one help me please... She is been sick for the past 2 days.. And its getting worsening.. Please help me😭🙏

[Squirrel05]

And I also saw her bending down and doing something in her virginal area.. And she makes some sound like it's painful

[Rock Monkey]

I see four categories of possible problems.

1) Mineral Bone Disease. You have already initiated emergency calcium treated. For how many days have you been doing this?
2) She ate something toxic. The simplest solution for that is giving extra hydration to dilute any poisons. How is her thirst or appetite? What was the species of the wood she was chewing on? Would the stick have been coated with anything? Could there be some poison she ate? Is she an indoor only squirrel or is she an indoor outdoor squirrel?
3) A bacterial infection of some kind. Treatment would be to give antibiotics in the appropriate dosage if the administrators decide that is the appropriate course of action.
4) Aspiration Pneumonia. However, this is accompanied by a struggle to breathe, noisy breathing.

How long has she been struggling to pee and poop?

The MBD seems the most likely culprit. This treatment can take some days to turn things around. Have you seen any improvement from giving the calcium powder from eggshells?

However, it doesn't hurt to consider other possibilities while you continue to treat for MBD.

Can you post a photo or two or a link to a video posted on some other website? This will really help people make a better diagnosis.

The more symptoms you give and the more details about the timeline of the development of the symptoms, the easier it will be to arrive at a more accurate diagnosis.

[Rock Monkey]

She might have a urinary tract infection. That could explain the difficulty peeing and pooping and licking herself.

However, MBD when it gets bad interferes with proper nerve function and can result in painful sensations as the nerves misfire and limbs start to mis-function. They will sometimes start grooming or nibbling at the parts that are experiencing these sensations.

[Rock Monkey]

A video link is probably the single most useful thing. Though the answers to the other questions are important as well.

[Squirrel05]

I see four categories of possible problems.

1) Mineral Bone Disease. You have already initiated emergency calcium treated. For how many days have you been doing this?
2) She ate something toxic. The simplest solution for that is giving extra hydration to dilute any poisons. How is her thirst or appetite? What was the species of the wood she was chewing on? Would the stick have been coated with anything? Could there be some poison she ate? Is she an indoor only squirrel or is she an indoor outdoor squirrel?
3) A bacterial infection of some kind. Treatment would be to give antibiotics in the appropriate dosage if the administrators decide that is the appropriate course of action.
4) Aspiration Pneumonia. However, this is accompanied by a struggle to breathe, noisy breathing.

How long has she been struggling to pee and poop?

The MBD seems the most likely culprit. This treatment can take some days to turn things around. Have you seen any improvement from giving the calcium powder from eggshells?

However, it doesn't hurt to consider other possibilities while you continue to treat for MBD.

Can you post a photo or two or a link to a video posted on some other website? This will really help people make a better diagnosis.

The more symptoms you give and the more details about the timeline of the development of the symptoms, the easier it will be to arrive at a more accurate diagnosis.

I gave her eggshells since today and I don't have oven so I just boiled and fried the egg and grineded it...its not mixing up with water properly and she is not taking it too... I forced her little amount of it... And now she is in so much pain I think she is making sound whenever she makes a move...my vet asked me to give her melonex drop should I give her? Is that OK?

[Squirrel05]

A video link is probably the single most useful thing. Though the answers to the other questions are important as well.

I don't know how to upload a video... And she seems to be normal sometimes but actually when she goes to sleep or when she is climbing on the curtains she is making some sound

[Squirrel05]

She is just fine until the day I saw her biting some woods and she also ran over all the way and played joyfully but after that suddenly she felt sick...

[stepnstone]

Squirrel05 - Samyuktha
You have two forums under Life Threatening Help Needed using two different IP's under two different names
addressing same squirrel, same issue. This is deceptive and confusing to those trying to help you and totally
counter productive having scattered information in two different places when seeking help for your squirrel.


Hello I'm from India.. My squirrel breed is Indian palm squirrel.. My squirrel is 7 months old.. She suddenly felt ill and I can feel she is having pain in her stomach and now she is eating barely.. she can't even walk properly.. She can take only a few steps and then she will fall like exhausted..someone help me please I don't know whats going on


Hello guys... Iam having 7 months old Indian palm squirrel... She is not doing good for past 2 days... I saw her biting some woods day before yesterday and then after some times she became dull and doesn't have her appetite...and she can't even walk properly... She use to take few steps and then she will stop and take some rest.. And she makes some sound as if its aching while moving .. I thought it was mbd and I gave her some grineded eggshells mixed up with her food...and then she also had her dysentery... She can't poop and pee properly... I don't really know what's going on... I'm confused between mbd and some other... Some one help me please... She is been sick for the past 2 days.. And its getting worsening.. Please help me

[stepnstone]

Squirrel05 - Samyuktha
You have two forums under Life Threatening Help Needed using two different IP's under two different names
addressing same squirrel, same issue. This is deceptive and confusing to those trying to help you and totally
counter productive having scattered information in two different places when seeking help for your squirrel.


Hello guys... Iam having 7 months old Indian palm squirrel... She is not doing good for past 2 days... I saw her biting some woods day before yesterday and then after some times she became dull and doesn't have her appetite...and she can't even walk properly... She use to take few steps and then she will stop and take some rest.. And she makes some sound as if its aching while moving .. I thought it was mbd and I gave her some grineded eggshells mixed up with her food...and then she also had her dysentery... She can't poop and pee properly... I don't really know what's going on... I'm confused between mbd and some other... Some one help me please... She is been sick for the past 2 days.. And its getting worsening.. Please help me


Hello I'm from India.. My squirrel breed is Indian palm squirrel.. My squirrel is 7 months old.. She suddenly felt ill and I can feel she is having pain in her stomach and now she is eating barely.. she can't even walk properly.. She can take only a few steps and then she will fall like exhausted..someone help me please I don't know whats going on

[Rock Monkey]

I don't know how to upload a video... And she seems to be normal sometimes but actually when she goes to sleep or when she is climbing on the curtains she is making some sound

You will need to upload the video to some other website like YouTube, then provide us with the link to this video.

[Squirrel05]

Sorry I'm new to this website and I don't know how to use this properly... I just wanted to elaborate the issue so I created another post

[Rock Monkey]

I gave her eggshells since today and I don't have oven so I just boiled and fried the egg and grineded it...its not mixing up with water properly and she is not taking it too... I forced her little amount of it... And now she is in so much pain I think she is making sound whenever she makes a move...my vet asked me to give her melonex drop should I give her? Is that OK?

Baking the eggshells make them brittle, enabling them to be ground into a fine powder.

Were you able to turn the eggshells into a fine powder? Do have a mortar and pestle? You need to grind the eggshells between two hard things to make a powder.

Once you have a powder you can mix it with one of her favorite healthy foods. Maybe yogurt, or some nice, soft avocado. Then she would be more likely to eat this mixture and get the calcium she needs.

Don't force her to eat, she may choke on it and develop aspiration pneumonia.

[Rock Monkey]

Sorry I'm new to this website and I don't know how to use this properly... I just wanted to elaborate the issue so I created another post

The best way to elaborate is to hit "Reply to Thread" in the original Thread that you created. Maybe an administrator can merge the two threads so all of the information will be in one place so everyone can see everything and not say the same things twice.

[Rock Monkey]

I gave her eggshells since today and I don't have oven so I just boiled and fried the egg and grineded it...its not mixing up with water properly and she is not taking it too... I forced her little amount of it... And now she is in so much pain I think she is making sound whenever she makes a move...my vet asked me to give her melonex drop should I give her? Is that OK?

An administrator will have to decide whether the Melonex pain reliever is appropriate in this situation and if so, how much should be given.

In order to do so you will need to provide the squirrel's weight in grams.

[Tuff]

Hello I'm from India.. My squirrel breed is Indian palm squirrel.. My squirrel is 7 months old.. She suddenly felt ill and I can feel she is having pain in her stomach and now she is eating barely.. she can't even walk properly.. She can take only a few steps and then she will fall like exhausted..someone help me please I don't know whats going on


https://youtu.be/wDvpaxTr3yo

Is your squirrel making this noise?

[Squirrel05]

Baking the eggshells make them brittle, enabling them to be ground into a fine powder.

Were you able to turn the eggshells into a fine powder? Do have a mortar and pestle? You need to grind the eggshells between two hard things to make a powder.

Once you have a powder you can mix it with one of her favorite healthy foods. Maybe yogurt, or some nice, soft avocado. Then she would be more likely to eat this mixture and get the calcium she needs.

Don't force her to eat, she may choke on it and develop aspiration pneumonia.

I grineded it using hard material and it's fine powder now... She is refusing to eat any kind of food

[Squirrel05]

https://youtu.be/4c40S1LsDGM
https://youtu.be/ZXL9kPcrlAc
https://youtu.be/-acdu9YnxaE
I don't know whether you can hear the sound.. She is sleeping now.. And when she moved she made that sound

[Squirrel05]

https://youtu.be/4c40S1LsDGM
https://youtu.be/ZXL9kPcrlAc
https://youtu.be/-acdu9YnxaE
I don't know whether you can hear the sound.. She is sleeping now.. And when she moved she made that sound

In first link the one who is sitting up is the one who is sick

[Rock Monkey]

Thanks for providing links to the videos.

Refusing to eat and lethargic can mean she might have aspiration pneumonia, especially if you are hearing sounds as she breathes.

Do you hear sounds from her with each breath?

It is hard for me to tell given the back ground noise, but I do think I hear something in the breathing. For a healthy squirrel breathing should be a quiet, unremarkable event.

If she aspiration pneumonia, her best chances will be if she if she is given antibiotics as soon as possible.

Can you get any of the following medications?

Baytril (animal)/Cipro (human), Clavamox (animal)/Augmentin (human) are drugs that are used frequently for upper respiratory infections.

Here are some more details about the above antibiotics.

Baytril: Enrofloxacin, A member of the fluoroquinolone class. Made by Bayer
Cipro (Ciloxan, Neofloxin) Ciprofloxacin, a broad-spectrum antibiotic of the fluoroquinolone class. Available as a generic.
Clavamox: amoxicillin and clavulanate potassium
Augmentin: AMOXICILLIN/CLAVULANIC ACID

[Rock Monkey]

If you are hearing sounds with each breath as she sleeps that points to aspiration pneumonia, which means some fluid or food has gotten in her pulmonary system and a bacterial infection has begun.

If so, while you are waiting for antibiotics it is important that she be kept warm because if she has aspiration pneumonia her lungs will not function at full capacity. It is good that she has a sibling to snuggle with.

[Squirrel05]

Thanks for providing links to the videos.

Refusing to eat and lethargic can mean she might have aspiration pneumonia, especially if you are hearing sounds as she breathes.

Do you hear sounds from her with each breath?

It is hard for me to tell given the back ground noise, but I do think I hear something in the breathing. For a healthy squirrel breathing should be a quiet, unremarkable event.

If she aspiration pneumonia, her best chances will be if she if she is given antibiotics as soon as possible.

Can you get any of the following medications?

Baytril (animal)/Cipro (human), Clavamox (animal)/Augmentin (human) are drugs that are used frequently for upper respiratory infections.

Here are some more details about the above antibiotics.

Baytril: Enrofloxacin, A member of the fluoroquinolone class. Made by Bayer
Cipro (Ciloxan, Neofloxin) Ciprofloxacin, a broad-spectrum antibiotic of the fluoroquinolone class. Available as a generic.
Clavamox: amoxicillin and clavulanate potassium
Augmentin: AMOXICILLIN/CLAVULANIC ACID

I can't hear any clicking sound while she is breathing.. It may be because of the background sound...and I have a doubt Can mbd cause dysentery?

[Rock Monkey]

Please elaborate in your description of the sound you hear. If there is a sound with each breath, there is a problem.

Is the sound occurring in synchronization with her breathing?

[Rock Monkey]

I can't hear any clicking sound while she is breathing.. It may be because of the background sound...and I have a doubt Can mbd cause dysentery?

If she ate something toxic, that could cause dysentery.

[Squirrel05]

I can only hear her heart beat sound.. Is pneumonia painful? Because she makes some sound like it's painful

[Squirrel05]

If she ate something toxic, that could cause dysentery.

I think she ended up swallowing some wood granules will that be the reason?

[Rock Monkey]

I think she ended up swallowing some wood granules will that be the reason?

If she ended up swallowing a sharp piece of wood that could cause damage or a puncture to her intestinal tract. However, usually when they chew up wood or they just shred it and don't ingest anything. Was she eating the wood or the bark or just shredding it?

They shred lots of things that they don't eat to keep their teeth from getting too long or just because they are bored or anxious.

MBD is definitely painful.

[Rock Monkey]

Did she make a painful noise when she was chewing on the piece of wood?

[Rock Monkey]

What sort of wood was she chewing?

Did it have any man-made coating on it?

[Rock Monkey]

I can only hear her heart beat sound.. Is pneumonia painful? Because she makes some sound like it's painful

I don't think you can hear her resting heartbeat. You can definitely see the rise and fall of the chest, but I am really skeptical that you could hear a squirrel's resting heartbeat unless you had a stethoscope or you ear was pressed to her chest.

Are you sure you aren't hearing the sound of air going in and out of her lungs? Does the breathing of the sick squirrel sound any different from the healthy one?

[Rock Monkey]

When the squirrel wakes up, if you post a link of the sick squirrel moving about, that would be very helpful.

[Rock Monkey]

Some species of wood are toxic. What species of wood was she chewing on?

[Tuff]

And I also saw her bending down and doing something in her virginal area.. And she makes some sound like it's painful


https://youtu.be/wDvpaxTr3yo

Does it sound like this?

[Squirrel05]

I don't think you can hear her resting heartbeat. You can definitely see the rise and fall of the chest, but I am really skeptical that you could hear a squirrel's resting heartbeat unless you had a stethoscope or you ear was pressed to her chest.

Are you sure you aren't hearing the sound of air going in and out of her lungs? Does the breathing of the sick squirrel sound any different from the healthy one?

Yes I'm sure of ot

[Squirrel05]

https://youtu.be/wDvpaxTr3yo

Does it sound like this?

No but lighter than this... She only make sound when she moves.. like ki ki sound

[Squirrel05]

https://youtu.be/Hj309NOL00k

[Squirrel05]

She ate some amount of rice today... She is always scratching her eyers
https://youtu.be/WuVL5rrmR78

[Rock Monkey]

She ate some amount of rice today... She is always scratching her eyers
https://youtu.be/WuVL5rrmR78

I am here crackling in this video. I don't think that is the sound of her claws on the wood.

That video is helpful.

However, at least for Eastern grey squirrels, grains are not part of their recommended diet. It can interfere with healthy mineral absorption. Rice is considered a kind of grain.

[Rock Monkey]

Yes I'm sure of ot

Maybe we are having a language problem. I realize that English is not likely your first language.

They make stethoscopes so doctors can hear people's hearts. If a person is breathing hard from exercise or struggling to breathe, that can be heard. However, sitting near a person you cannot hear their heartbeat. What you hear is there breath going in and out of their mouths and nose.

So, I think your squirrel may be having a respiratory problem.

Other than the sound of pain, does the sick squirrel sound different from the healthy one?

Is the sick squirrel breathing through its mouth or nose?

My best guess, based on limited information, is that your squirrel may be having some sort of respiratory problem.

The more information that is given, the better the chance of making an accurate, correct diagnosis.

I would say that half of the questions asked have gone unanswered, but I understand the English language may not come as easily as your native language.

[Tuff]

https://youtu.be/Hj309NOL00k

So it sounds like this?

https://youtu.be/WtqWQKTOeRI

[stepnstone]

Sorry I'm new to this website and I don't know how to use this properly... I just wanted to elaborate the issue so I created another post

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Please continue to post under your registration of: Squirrel05 - This is the registration you should use to
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