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bednarkim77
10-12-2020, 01:05 PM
Does teklad have everything a gray squirrel needs in it? I've started making booballs and the recipe I use calls for rodent block, nuts, coconut oil , baby food fruit and fox valley 20 50 and 3 capsules of multidolphilus.
Should i be adding anything else? Also they get fresh veggies and once in a while some fruit but not daily.

bednarkim77
10-12-2020, 01:05 PM
Also its teklad 2018

SammysMom
10-12-2020, 01:17 PM
Teklad is good, healthy blocks

Charley Chuckles
10-12-2020, 01:50 PM
I just placed my order for teklad 2018 on Amazon.
I use them by crushing and adding either natural apple sauce or YoBaby yogurt to make my own blocks, I put them in freezer then give frozen.
Sometimes my kids will eat the block right out of bag, if not I go to the freezer.
My Conker doesn't have his top insissors but can eat the reconstructed frozen block which melts fairly quick.

island rehabber
10-12-2020, 07:19 PM
I used Zupreem monkey chow for the longest time but had very little success getting all my babies in a given season to eat them. After I switched toTeklad 2018 last year I got so happy -- everyone loves them and they are so economical on Ebay! They have no fish oil or fishy odor like the Mazuri's do, and they are not almost all corn like the monkey chow. :)

Charley Chuckles
10-12-2020, 10:54 PM
I used Zupreem monkey chow for the longest time but had very little success getting all my babies in a given season to eat them. After I switched toTeklad 2018 last year I got so happy -- everyone loves them and they are so economical on Ebay! They have no fish oil or fishy odor like the Mazuri's do, and they are not almost all corn like the monkey chow. :)

Patti turned me onto the Teklad 2018 some time ago and I've used it every since 👍
My kids seem to favor it🤗
I've always ordered from Amazon, I'm going to check out eBay👍

Mel1959
10-13-2020, 08:11 AM
Another place to get Teklad block is from Wee Companions online. They only ship on Saturday and Wednesday’s. Their price per pound is $1.25, but the shipping drives up the cost. If you happen to be within driving distance from where Wee Companions is located you can pick it up at their place. They are a rat rescue place. I normally shop for the best price, including the shipping, wherever it might be.

bednarkim77
10-13-2020, 07:06 PM
So teklad 2018 has everything they need in it ?

Charley Chuckles
10-14-2020, 09:02 AM
So teklad 2018 has everything they need in it ?

I believe it does👍

island rehabber
10-16-2020, 08:33 AM
So teklad 2018 has everything they need in it ?

Yes. It's the good news and the bad news. The bad news is that Teklad is actually a lab rat block, so it was developed to feed those poor lil ratties used in testing laboratories...:hissyfit

The GOOD news is because they are used for such testing, they "care" about the rats having perfect nutrition to start with. Therefore the blocks are of a very high quality. Wouldn't it be nice if companies developed rodent blocks simply because they wanted healthy rodents who would live free? *sigh* dreaming again.....

(BTW of course there are the wonderful Henry's Healthy Blocks, but those are a supplement for temporarily or permanently captive squirrels, NOT a staple food to be given freely all day long, as the Teklad blocks are meant to be. You all know that, right? Phew. )

Charley Chuckles
10-16-2020, 08:51 AM
Yes. It's the good news and the bad news. The bad news is that Teklad is actually a lab rat block, so it was developed to feed those poor lil ratties used in testing laboratories...:hissyfit

The GOOD news is because they are used for such testing, they "care" about the rats having perfect nutrition to start with. Therefore the blocks are of a very high quality. Wouldn't it be nice if companies developed rodent blocks simply because they wanted healthy rodents who would live free? *sigh* dreaming again.....

(BTW of course there are the wonderful Henry's Healthy Blocks, but those are a supplement for temporarily or permanently captive squirrels, NOT a staple food to be given freely all day long, as the Teklad blocks are meant to be. You all know that, right? Phew. )


No, I didn't know About the lab rat part😕
But like you say the good news is it's a healthy diet👍
I make my version of boo balls for my kids with them😉

Mel1959
10-16-2020, 10:14 AM
I use them for boo balls too.

Buddy
10-16-2020, 11:49 AM
Hi! What are these "boo balls"? Is there a recipe for it?

TubeDriver
10-16-2020, 12:10 PM
Been using Teklad 2018 for years. It is the stable of my mice. I use Henry's to supplement as special treats. Teklad is designed as a complete dietary replacement, in theory it is all you need. However, I highly recommend you provide fresh veggies daily as well. My little ones get Teklad blocks daily, fresh veggies each evening and bits of Henrys and almonds as treats.

Buddy
10-16-2020, 12:29 PM
Thanks! I thought Henry's blocks are supposed to be the main food/nutrition for them. Yesterday, I ordered 3 more packages from Henry's. They are expensive!

TubeDriver
10-16-2020, 01:01 PM
Henry's are really ultra high quality, people could probably eat them just fine (not really joking here). But they are expensive. If cost is not an issue, Henry's plus daily veggies is the best diet IMHO. If your budget can't handle this, Teklad with daily veggies would be second choice. Henry's can also be added as treats since they taste much better than Teklad.



Thanks! I thought Henry's blocks are supposed to be the main food/nutrition for them. Yesterday, I ordered 3 more packages from Henry's. They are expensive!

Mel1959
10-16-2020, 02:06 PM
Thanks! I thought Henry's blocks are supposed to be the main food/nutrition for them. Yesterday, I ordered 3 more packages from Henry's. They are expensive!

The problem with Teklad blocks is that if you start your squirrel on Henrys it’s much harder to get them to accept Teklad because they don’t taste as good. You can grind the Teklad and add some other ingredients to make them into boo balls which then makes it tastier and still probably more cost effective than a Henrys.

I provide boo balls to my wilds and unlimited amounts to any I’m raising, and give Henrys only once in awhile. The same for my flyer.

Buddy
10-17-2020, 11:00 AM
Got it! Thank you both! Great to know! :w00t

Buddy
10-17-2020, 11:02 AM
One more... where can I find a recipe for boo balls?

CrazyCatLady
10-17-2020, 11:56 AM
One more... where can I find a recipe for boo balls?

Boo balls
Option 1: Uncooked

If your squirrel will not eat rodent block no matter the brand or* coating, try making Boo Balls.*

The Boo Ball recipe was originally posted on the Squirrel Board’s Nutrition Forum and was found
to work well during weaning and for squirrels with teeth issues because of its soft texture.*

Ingredients

50 grams rodent block

50 grams powdered Fox Valley Day One Formula for Squirrels (either 32/40 or 20/50)

50 grams nuts, such as walnuts, pecans, or hazelnuts.

20 grams "organic" coconut oil (melted until liquid)

1 jar (approximately 100 grams) of fruit baby food (such as apples or plums), organic preferred

The squirrel board recommends adding a probiotic (beneficial bacteria) such as 3 capsules of multidophilus*

If you are unable to find this, substitute 1 capsule of acidophilus.

In a food processor, grind rodent block until its the consistency of a fine powder.* Grind nuts as finely as possible without it becoming nut butter.* Heat coconut oil until its a liquid consistency.* Warming the baby food also helps it to mix.

Combine the powdered rodent block, Fox Valley formula, nuts and acidophilus. Mix the organic baby food fruit* and coconut oil in to your dry ingredients until well blended.

Cover and place in the refrigerator for at least* 5 hours or overnight until mixture is set (the consistency of cookie dough).*

Once you are ready to serve, take out about a 1/2 tsp (5 grams) of the mixture and roll is in your hands into a small ball.**

Store in the refrigerator for up to 1 week.

Recommendation: Vary the type of nut you use to keep the squirrel interested.

Amount: 3-4 balls or as much as will be consumed in a day.

Pros: Nutritionally complete.* Soft for young, old and squirrels with teeth issues. Probiotic

Helps with intestinal issues.

Cons: More time consuming and expensive to make. Have to buy some ingredients online,

Such as the Fox Valley DayOne Formula for Squirrels

Option 2: Cooked
Some squirrels prefer a more crunchy texture in their boo ballsk. Follow the steps above (with the*

Exception of the pro-biotic, which you may sprinkle on after baking since heat kills the active cultures).

After letting the mixture set overnight, use a lightly greased rolling pin to roll the dough into a flat sheet 1/4 to 1/3 inch thick.* Bake 250 degrees Fahrenheit for 1 hour.** Let cool for 10 minutes and use a pizza cutter or knife to cut into small squares. After completely cooled, sprinkle the multidophilus, acidophilus or other probiotic over the cookies if desired or place in bag and gently shake until each block is lightly coated.** Store in the refrigerator up to 2 weeks or place in the freezer for longer shelf life.

I believe if you search boo balls on TSB, you'll find some interesting variations.

bednarkim77
10-18-2020, 08:06 AM
Yes. It's the good news and the bad news. The bad news is that Teklad is actually a lab rat block, so it was developed to feed those poor lil ratties used in testing laboratories...:hissyfit

The GOOD news is because they are used for such testing, they "care" about the rats having perfect nutrition to start with. Therefore the blocks are of a very high quality. Wouldn't it be nice if companies developed rodent blocks simply because they wanted healthy rodents who would live free? *sigh* dreaming again.....

(BTW of course there are the wonderful Henry's Healthy Blocks, but those are a supplement for temporarily or permanently captive squirrels, NOT a staple food to be given freely all day long, as the Teklad blocks are meant to be. You all know that, right? Phew. )




So are using teklad blocks good for making booballs and using them in place of Henry's blocks along with veggies good? My 5 yr old has MBD and getting her to take calcium has been a struggle so I started making boo balls and mixing her extra calcium in them. She eats Henry's blocks also but not all the time. She is and always has been the most picky squirrel I've ever seen. Some days she wont eat her veggies or blocks it's been a struggle and why she now has MBD. She is also a NR.

I also have 2 babies that will be released this coming spring and they love booballs I make using the teklad.
I have been adding more teklad and cutting back on the nuts each time I make boo balls so they are getting used to more of the teklad flavor, and they will eat some veggies.

bednarkim77
10-18-2020, 08:12 AM
Boo balls
Option 1: Uncooked

If your squirrel will not eat rodent block no matter the brand or* coating, try making Boo Balls.*

The Boo Ball recipe was originally posted on the Squirrel Board’s Nutrition Forum and was found
to work well during weaning and for squirrels with teeth issues because of its soft texture.*

Ingredients

50 grams rodent block

50 grams powdered Fox Valley Day One Formula for Squirrels (either 32/40 or 20/50)

50 grams nuts, such as walnuts, pecans, or hazelnuts.

20 grams "organic" coconut oil (melted until liquid)

1 jar (approximately 100 grams) of fruit baby food (such as apples or plums), organic preferred

The squirrel board recommends adding a probiotic (beneficial bacteria) such as 3 capsules of multidophilus*

If you are unable to find this, substitute 1 capsule of acidophilus.

In a food processor, grind rodent block until its the consistency of a fine powder.* Grind nuts as finely as possible without it becoming nut butter.* Heat coconut oil until its a liquid consistency.* Warming the baby food also helps it to mix.

Combine the powdered rodent block, Fox Valley formula, nuts and acidophilus. Mix the organic baby food fruit* and coconut oil in to your dry ingredients until well blended.

Cover and place in the refrigerator for at least* 5 hours or overnight until mixture is set (the consistency of cookie dough).*

Once you are ready to serve, take out about a 1/2 tsp (5 grams) of the mixture and roll is in your hands into a small ball.**

Store in the refrigerator for up to 1 week.

Recommendation: Vary the type of nut you use to keep the squirrel interested.

Amount: 3-4 balls or as much as will be consumed in a day.

Pros: Nutritionally complete.* Soft for young, old and squirrels with teeth issues. Probiotic

Helps with intestinal issues.

Cons: More time consuming and expensive to make. Have to buy some ingredients online,

Such as the Fox Valley DayOne Formula for Squirrels

Option 2: Cooked
Some squirrels prefer a more crunchy texture in their boo ballsk. Follow the steps above (with the*

Exception of the pro-biotic, which you may sprinkle on after baking since heat kills the active cultures).

After letting the mixture set overnight, use a lightly greased rolling pin to roll the dough into a flat sheet 1/4 to 1/3 inch thick.* Bake 250 degrees Fahrenheit for 1 hour.** Let cool for 10 minutes and use a pizza cutter or knife to cut into small squares. After completely cooled, sprinkle the multidophilus, acidophilus or other probiotic over the cookies if desired or place in bag and gently shake until each block is lightly coated.** Store in the refrigerator up to 2 weeks or place in the freezer for longer shelf life.

I believe if you search boo balls on TSB, you'll find some interesting variations.

This is the recipe I use and I have been adding more teklad and less nuts for the babies who will be released in spring , it's one way for me to get them used to the teklad flavor.

Mel1959
10-18-2020, 09:15 AM
So are using teklad blocks good for making booballs and using them in place of Henry's blocks along with veggies good? My 5 yr old has MBD and getting her to take calcium has been a struggle so I started making boo balls and mixing her extra calcium in them. She eats Henry's blocks also but not all the time. She is and always has been the most picky squirrel I've ever seen. Some days she wont eat her veggies or blocks it's been a struggle and why she now has MBD. She is also a NR.

I also have 2 babies that will be released this coming spring and they love booballs I make using the teklad.
I have been adding more teklad and cutting back on the nuts each time I make boo balls so they are getting used to more of the teklad flavor, and they will eat some veggies.

Yes, Teklad is what I use for my boo balls. All the wilds ear them and it makes me feel good to know they’re getting some decent nutrition.

Buddy
10-19-2020, 12:20 PM
Thank you all! :w00t

Kbross
12-10-2020, 02:35 PM
I have my 1+ year old on teklad 2014 for her main nutrition. I add veggies and acorns and occasionally a peanut, cashew, etc. Do I need to add any more calcium? Thank you very much!

Chirps
12-10-2020, 03:34 PM
I have my 1+ year old on teklad 2014 for her main nutrition. I add veggies and acorns and occasionally a peanut, cashew, etc. Do I need to add any more calcium? Thank you very much!
Watch them acorns. Have you been following the threads where acorns and their hazards are discussed?

Mel1959
12-10-2020, 11:03 PM
No you don’t need extra calcium. Teklad is 100% nutrition.