TEETH ISSUES

[bdowdy420]

Hey all! Baby is doing pretty well these days. He's at 105 grams now. Hes very energetic and runs and jumps around.

He's very furry now. Here's a cute little pic of him. :)
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His top teeth are coming in crooked, specifically one of the top teeth seems to be much more crooked and is growing behind the other. I'm not sure what the best path forward is. I've been giving him stuff to chew on for a few weeks now(henrys rodent block, sticks, cardboard, calcium chew block thingy) but he's only just started to nibble on them in the last few days. He's very quick and wiggly when he doesnt want me to hold him. I managed to get some teeth pics for y'all though. I can see and feel him grinding his teeth together at times when I'm feeding him.


SO... here's a picture of his little teeth. What do I do to fix this?

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[Rock Monkey]

In previous posts, on 8/26/2020 you reported that he weighed 43 grams.

You say that he currently weighs 103 grams. Five weeks have passed since then. It seems like he should weigh substantially more.

What does his current diet consist of?

[bdowdy420]

He's almost entirely Fox Valley formula. He has a fresh Henrys block each day that he only recently has started nibbling on, i've been putting them in his cage for a few weeks though. I've offered him bits of broccoli and lettuce bits that were nibbled at lightly, but so far he's like 98% formula still.

He is gaining weight pretty fast this last week, he was definitely underweight and dehydrated when I found him. What should his ideal weight be right now?

and any advice on his teeth?

[Spanky]

He's almost entirely Fox Valley formula.

How much formula at each feeding and how frequently?

It's hard to say what the "ideal" weight is because it varies so much... especially north to south (northern squirrels are substantially larger). As a reference, most of my baby greys are over 100grams when their eyes open and this squirrel is just getting to that weight and appears to be 6 - 7 weeks old... when did he open his eyes?

The weight gain of 60 grams since August 26 is a pretty slow weight gain to be sure.

For now, keep an eye on the teeth.. watch for them to start to grow back along the rood of his mouth. If they do that they will need to be trimmed.

[bdowdy420]

His eyes opened on i believe around the 15th of September.

I've been feeding every 4 hours with a 6 hour gap at night.
Currently feeding about 6.5 percent body weight per feeding.
I've been increasing the percentage by about 0.1 percent a day on my way up to 7.


I shall keep watching his teeth.

[stepnstone]

For now, keep an eye on the teeth.. watch for them to start to grow back along the rood of his mouth. If they do that they will need to be trimmed. [/FONT]

Spanky, see bottom picture on post #1, teeth are already messed up /out of alignment,
bottoms already need to be trimmed.

[Buddy]

Hey all! Baby is doing pretty well these days. He's at 105 grams now. Hes very energetic and runs and jumps around.

He's very furry now. Here's a cute little pic of him. :)
316557

BUT

His top teeth are coming in crooked, specifically one of the top teeth seems to be much more crooked and is growing behind the other. I'm not sure what the best path forward is. I've been giving him stuff to chew on for a few weeks now(henrys rodent block, sticks, cardboard, calcium chew block thingy) but he's only just started to nibble on them in the last few days. He's very quick and wiggly when he doesnt want me to hold him. I managed to get some teeth pics for y'all though. I can see and feel him grinding his teeth together at times when I'm feeding him.


SO... here's a picture of his little teeth. What do I do to fix this?

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Super cute! :Love_Icon Hope the teeth issues get better or at least doesn't get worse!

[bdowdy420]

Spanky, see bottom picture on post #1, teeth are already messed up /out of alignment,
bottoms already need to be trimmed.

Ok so you're saying they need trimmed already? Any good resources for someone who has never done it before?

[stepnstone]

Ok so you're saying they need trimmed already? Any good resources for someone who has never done it before?

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I'm no expert on orthodontics but my opinion this baby is going to need a veterinarian with experienced hands with this.
When the incisors can't line up to grind on each other they will just continue to grow. The bottom incisors need to be
trimmed so they don't puncture the pallet but doubtful trimming alone is going to solve anything with those top incisors.
They are both out of align #1 and #2 and it appears like the tooth socket has been ripped on #2 pushing it behind #1 and
not close to where it should be. If it has been ripped I don't know if the tooth can be trimmed and lined back up with gum
possibly stitched to save it or if it will need to be removed. There could also be issues with the jaw alignment.

[Mel1959]

I see your location is Oregon. We have very limited resources in your part of the country. I think your best bet is to reach out to a very trusted member who is a rehabilitator and has a wildlife rescue in Vancouver, WA. I’m sure this is a distance from where you are located, but he might know of someone, or maybe even himself, that could help you. Since your baby’s teeth don’t seem to be a simple trim he might be able to help you find someone to help. His name is Michael (Duckman) and his refuge # is 360-836-0955.

Please keep us updated.

[Rock Monkey]

SO... here's a picture of his little teeth. What do I do to fix this?



Does he chew on his cage?

Do you feed him with a syringe? And, if so, does the syringe have a nipple attached?

[bdowdy420]

Does he chew on his cage?

Do you feed him with a syringe? And, if so, does the syringe have a nipple attached?

I havent seen him chew on the cage really, but he chews on his bedding a bit, as well as lightly on sticks, rodent block, etc.

The syringe does have a nipple attached, one of the elongated ones.

[bdowdy420]

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I'm no expert on orthodontics but my opinion this baby is going to need a veterinarian with experienced hands with this.
When the incisors can't line up to grind on each other they will just continue to grow. The bottom incisors need to be
trimmed so they don't puncture the pallet but doubtful trimming alone is going to solve anything with those top incisors.
They are both out of align #1 and #2 and it appears like the tooth socket has been ripped on #2 pushing it behind #1 and
not close to where it should be. If it has been ripped I don't know if the tooth can be trimmed and lined back up with gum
possibly stitched to save it or if it will need to be removed. There could also be issues with the jaw alignment.


Hmm well thats a bummer if it all turns out to be the case. I'm not sure of any resources close by that could deal with him, I'm not sure if hes an Eastern or Western Grey as well, and that would affect if any places here would treat him. As far as im aware if he is Eastern every place here in Oregon has to deny him or potentially euthanize and I just cant let them do that to the little guy.

[bdowdy420]

I see your location is Oregon. We have very limited resources in your part of the country. I think your best bet is to reach out to a very trusted member who is a rehabilitator and has a wildlife rescue in Vancouver, WA. I’m sure this is a distance from where you are located, but he might know of someone, or maybe even himself, that could help you. Since your baby’s teeth don’t seem to be a simple trim he might be able to help you find someone to help. His name is Michael (Duckman) and his refuge # is 360-836-0955.

Please keep us updated.


All right. I'll give this guy a call and see what he says I should do. Getting to Vancouver would be doable if necessarry, but maybe he knows someone closer like you said. Oregon laws make it harder to find treatment but it seems like Washington is a bit more open about it. (and maybe he knows a guy that knows a guy here in Oregon that would treat him anyway)

Bad timing on my part if he needs to go away for treatment, just bought a 150 dollar cage to last him from now until what would have been release time lmao

[stepnstone]

I havent seen him chew on the cage really, but he chews on his bedding a bit, as well as lightly on sticks, rodent block, etc.
The syringe does have a nipple attached, one of the elongated ones.

Very doubtful this condition was any result to bar chewing even if he had, certinally had nothing to do with type of nipple used!
At this point how this condition came about is irreverent to the more serious issue at hand!
Post #9, #10 are very relevant to the condition and seeking actual help for this baby.

[Rock Monkey]

Very doubtful this condition was any result to bar chewing even if he had, certinally had nothing to do with type of nipple used!


I was simply wondering whether a squirrel sucking down hard on a syringe without a nipple might over time push its rather mobile teeth out of position.

[Mel1959]

All right. I'll give this guy a call and see what he says I should do. Getting to Vancouver would be doable if necessarry, but maybe he knows someone closer like you said. Oregon laws make it harder to find treatment but it seems like Washington is a bit more open about it. (and maybe he knows a guy that knows a guy here in Oregon that would treat him anyway)

Bad timing on my part if he needs to go away for treatment, just bought a 150 dollar cage to last him from now until what would have been release time lmao

Michael is an awesome rehabber and just might have some connections that will help you. I’m praying that with some trimmings your baby will be good to go. :Love_Icon