Eating and drinking

[Napped]

Hello to all squirrel friend here.I am new to this forum and also new to squirrels..sorry but my english is not much :D So here is the deal i have a himalayan striped squirrel that i bought from a pet shop in my town it was ok in first weeks but then propably got MBD from his diet..in my country i cant get hernys block so i tried to find foods with high calcium in them to help him and also put him feta to eat. He is doing fine now he can jump and climb around again cuz he ever strugle to urine before i chance his diet..now i have bought a caucasian squirrel(very larger tahn the himalayan)and i have her 3 days now...she doesnt eat or drink anything and doesnt move at all..i am start to worry cuz the himalayan doesnt have any problem to eat or drink water when i got him to my home he was just afraid of me didnt want to pet him ,bites,hide,etc.the new one dont have problem to pet her and if i try to pick her up doesnt bite..i dont want her to dehydrate or starving any suggest???

[Napped]

Also i think that she might be pregnant cuz she has very large belly

[Chirps]

Hi! When you say she doesn't move at all do you mean doesn't run and jump like the other or truly does no.t move? Is she paralyzed? If she can't move AT ALL she may have advanced MBD. Maybe a few drops of syrup or something sweet in water may get her to drink? I hope she is not too far gone. Was she not moving from when you first got her or did she become less active after you got her home? Is there a way to find out how she was cared for before you bought her?

[Chirps]

Do you have antacid tablets available? Like Tums? You would want the ones that are just calcium carbonate, NOT with Vitamin D. It can keep your Himalayan from getting MBD again, just sprinkle some on his food. But if the new squirrel won't eat, I don't know how to get it into her. There are many people here who can help you. Keep checking for replies from the experts.

[Chirps]

Also i think that she might be pregnant cuz she has very large belly

Oy!

[Napped]

Hi! When you say she doesn't move at all do you mean doesn't run and jump like the other or truly does no.t move? Is she paralyzed? If she can't move AT ALL she may have advanced MBD. Maybe a few drops of syrup or something sweet in water may get her to drink? I hope she is not too far gone. Was she not moving from when you first got her or did she become less active after you got her home? Is there a way to find out how she was cared for before you bought her?

Hello i didnt put it right before so in her cage she goes in a corner and stay there if i put her in front of ther nest she will go in and dont come out if i take here out of cage and leave her on floor she will go in a corner and stay there i dont see samples of MBD like the himalayan...i dont know if she behave like that cuz she is in an new place,cage, in pet shop she was with one male caucasian months now..and they was cudle all day..i dont know if she is pregnant.. in my country vets dont know much for squirrels so i dont have somewhere to take her to see

[Napped]

https://ibb.co/PZ3BVM4


Here is a picture of her


She can stay like that for hours

[Charley Chuckles]

What a sweet baby.
So many things could be going on here. Scared and not adjusted to her home yet.
Diet of course could be a big issue.
Like chirps said, others here with that type of experience should weigh in soon.
All I can offer is this, do you have watermelon?
If so she may like it and it is good for keeping them hydrated, may even get her to eat again.

[Napped]

What a sweet baby.
So many things could be going on here. Scared and not adjusted to her home yet.
Diet of course could be a big issue.
Like chirps said, others here with that type of experience should weigh in soon.
All I can offer is this, do you have watermelon?
If so she may like it and it is good for keeping them hydrated, may even get her to eat again.

I have tried grapes that my himalayan goes nuts to but she doesnt even flick in the smell of it...

[Spanky]

If I understand, you do not believe she is showing signs of MBD and this is something else?

Do you know what her diet was while she was in the pet shop? And if she drank water from a dish or bottle?

Hopefully she is still adjusting to being taken aware from her companion and placed in new surroundings. I'd suggest you keep her in a warm, dark and quiet space while she is adjusting to all the huge changes in her life recently. I have to do this (warm, dark and quiet) with wild squirrels I am treating for injury... they do not do well in bright, loud and busy areas (won't eat, won't drink etc.). It usually takes several days for them to get even a little comfortable... but I find them sneaking food when they think they can do so unnoticed.

Trying watermelon is a good suggestion to help her remain hydrated and I would offer avocado and sugar snap peas.... even fresh corn (temporarily) to see if she will eat those items.

[Napped]

If I understand, you do not believe she is showing signs of MBD and this is something else?

Do you know what her diet was while she was in the pet shop? And if she drank water from a dish or bottle?

Hopefully she is still adjusting to being taken aware from her companion and placed in new surroundings. I'd suggest you keep her in a warm, dark and quiet space while she is adjusting to all the huge changes in her life recently. I have to do this (warm, dark and quiet) with wild squirrels I am treating for injury... they do not do well in bright, loud and busy areas (won't eat, won't drink etc.). It usually takes several days for them to get even a little comfortable... but I find them sneaking food when they think they can do so unnoticed.

Trying watermelon is a good suggestion to help her remain hydrated and I would offer avocado and sugar snap peas.... even fresh corn (temporarily) to see if she will eat those items.



I dont know for her diet but they have a bowl there with water and most of time fruits like apple and orange with a bowl of seeds i have put her a bowl and a bottle with water for her to choose plus yes i dont see MBD syptoms she can walk and run fine in floor and dont get stuck in clothes and etc but she just goea to a corner and stay there doing nothing

[MrsTubeDriver]

Hi, I saw that member Spanky is helping you. Spanky is an excellent squirrel rehabber and I would follow his advice. I will alert another rehabber who will check your thread as well.

[Napped]

Hi, I saw that member Spanky is helping you. Spanky is an excellent squirrel rehabber and I would follow his advice. I will alert another rehabber who will check your thread as well.

Thank you very much if i have news i will post..if someone have any other suggest from their expirience i will be glad to hear him the problem is that i am working and cant watch her full time to see if she will eat or drink �� like right now i am ta work and try to find solution

[Scooterzmom]

Poor little thing. Getting adjusted to an entirely new environment is always very difficult for them. I agree with keeping her in a dark, quiet and warm place for a few days - maybe 30 minutes, then 1 hour then gradually more time uncovered each day as you offer her some food she is already familiar with. Make sure she has water available at all times. If she's not used to a water bottle, p lace a shallow dish of water in her cage near a spot she often goes to.

Crazy question maybe - but since I can't tell from a picture only - are you sure she does see? Does she have any reaction to selling your hand through the bars of her cage?

I would also get her familiar with the sound of your voice by going over and talking to her gently, even while covere. Get her used to the smell of your hands, placing your hand near the bars and offering her a little treat through the bars... just dropping it there even if she doesn't pick it up from your hand.

Start with little things to get uher used to you and her surroundings... the soft sound of your voice can become a powerful lure over time.

[HRT4SQRLS]

Napped, I think your girl is dealing with several problems. As others mentioned, I think stress over a new home and anxiety over losing her companion is just one of the problems. Squirrels can exhibit extreme reactions to stress and have actually been known to die from stress. I would put a blanket over the top of her cage. Leave the front open. This will make her feel more secure and less exposed. It will help her settle a little. She needs a box on the cage so that she can hide away until her stress lessens. You can purchase a small bird nest box or even a small cardboard box with a door cut into it will work. It should have soft fleece or T-shirt material inside so she can burrow under it. Don’t use a towel as they can get entrapped with the loops on the towel. The standing in the corner motionless is certainly related to stress and anxiety.

Another issue is without a doubt calcium deficiency. We see squirrels that are sold in pet stores around the world occasionally. Pet stores can’t sell tree squirrels in the US. Many were raised on a “formula” that isn’t even dairy based. They are extremely calcium deficient or totally lacking in calcium. Just because she doesn’t show the symptoms of MBD doesn’t mean she doesn’t have it. With the diet you mention... fruit and seeds... I would assume that she does have calcium deficiency and start calcium supplements. If she is pregnant it is even more critical that she receives calcium. I’m not sure what is available in your country as far a calcium supplements. Most calcium supplements have Vitamin D. Squirrels do need some Vitamin D but the problem is that Vitamin D in large amounts is toxic to squirrels. You can buy calcium carbonate powder on Amazon. I will get a link to the MBD treatment. Because she isn’t showing symptoms, I would give her dosing based on a small squirrel which is half the dose of an adult squirrel. The easiest way to dose calcium is on a cube of avocado. If she refuses the avocado you will have to syringe feed her the doses. Be careful.... she will bite you very hard. Another method is peanut butter balls. I think reducing her stress will make her more willing to eat. Cover the cage except the front.


https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?32122-MBD-Treatment

I would minimize her environmental stress like noise. It will take time to win her over. Even going slow, she will be afraid for a long time. In her DNA she is a wild animal and she is a captive so her instincts are fear. You probably can win her affection with time but she probably won’t be a cuddly pet like a dog. You will have to accept her on her terms.

Thank you for rescuing her from the pet store. She had little chance of survival there.

[Napped]

Poor little thing. Getting adjusted to an entirely new environment is always very difficult for them. I agree with keeping her in a dark, quiet and warm place for a few days - maybe 30 minutes, then 1 hour then gradually more time uncovered each day as you offer her some food she is already familiar with. Make sure she has water available at all times. If she's not used to a water bottle, p lace a shallow dish of water in her cage near a spot she often goes to.

Crazy question maybe - but since I can't tell from a picture only - are you sure she does see? Does she have any reaction to selling your hand through the bars of her cage?

I would also get her familiar with the sound of your voice by going over and talking to her gently, even while covere. Get her used to the smell of your hands, placing your hand near the bars and offering her a little treat through the bars... just dropping it there even if she doesn't pick it up from your hand.

Start with little things to get uher used to you and her surroundings... the soft sound of your voice can become a powerful lure over time.
I cant tell ether if she i blind or something i have put her both dish and bottle to be sure if she want to drink she will drink from one or the other..her behavior is far the oposite from the himalayan and that confuse me

[Napped]

Napped, I think your girl is dealing with several problems. As others mentioned, I think stress over a new home and anxiety over losing her companion is just one of the problems. Squirrels can exhibit extreme reactions to stress and have actually been known to die from stress. I would put a blanket over the top of her cage. Leave the front open. This will make her feel more secure and less exposed. It will help her settle a little. She needs a box on the cage so that she can hide away until her stress lessens. You can purchase a small bird nest box or even a small cardboard box with a door cut into it will work. It should have soft fleece or T-shirt material inside so she can burrow under it. Don’t use a towel as they can get entrapped with the loops on the towel. The standing in the corner motionless is certainly related to stress and anxiety.

Another issue is without a doubt calcium deficiency. We see squirrels that are sold in pet stores around the world occasionally. Pet stores can’t sell tree squirrels in the US. Many were raised on a “formula” that isn’t even dairy based. They are extremely calcium deficient or totally lacking in calcium. Just because she doesn’t show the symptoms of MBD doesn’t mean she doesn’t have it. With the diet you mention... fruit and seeds... I would assume that she does have calcium deficiency and start calcium supplements. If she is pregnant it is even more critical that she receives calcium. I’m not sure what is available in your country as far a calcium supplements. Most calcium supplements have Vitamin D. Squirrels do need some Vitamin D but the problem is that Vitamin D in large amounts is toxic to squirrels. You can buy calcium carbonate powder on Amazon. I will get a link to the MBD treatment. Because she isn’t showing symptoms, I would give her dosing based on a small squirrel which is half the dose of an adult squirrel. The easiest way to dose calcium is on a cube of avocado. If she refuses the avocado you will have to syringe feed her the doses. Be careful.... she will bite you very hard. Another method is peanut butter balls. I think reducing her stress will make her more willing to eat. Cover the cage except the front.


https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?32122-MBD-Treatment

I would minimize her environmental stress like noise. It will take time to win her over. Even going slow, she will be afraid for a long time. In her DNA she is a wild animal and she is a captive so her instincts are fear. You probably can win her affection with time but she probably won’t be a cuddly pet like a dog. You will have to accept her on her terms.

Thank you for rescuing her from the pet store. She had little chance of survival there.
Thank you very much for yor advises.. if you see in the photo in the back its her nest box i have put cottom in is there a problem with cottom?

[HRT4SQRLS]

Thank you very much for yor advises.. if you see in the photo in the back its her nest box i have put cottom in is there a problem with cottom?

Sometimes cotton can cause issues with the fibers getting wrapped around a limp but that’s usually babies. For now, the cotton is fine.

[Napped]

Sometimes cotton can cause issues with the fibers getting wrapped around a limp but that’s usually babies. For now, the cotton is fine.

Ok so i cover the cage and leave 1/2 of the front side put her both bowl and bottle of water and a mix of defferent nuts almongs peanuts seeds dehydrated fruits i will leave her for today to see if she will calm at least a bit..i only want her not to get sick or die and its not about the money i spent for here i rly love squirrels..if you see above i have a himalayan striped male i bought a female for him to make a couple and in the 20th day she just pass out in the night...woke up in the morning and found her in the nest not having any injury from tha male.. never saw something worry she was full of energy and curiosity but all of suden...so i dont want to lose her too ..i expect anither female himalayan from the pet shop i got here cuz was differnt from the male one.i called them and tell them what happend and they told me they would replace her with no charge and i waitng her in the end of september.

[Rock Monkey]

Everyone has given you very good suggestions.

I would spend time with her talking with calmly and from the heart. She will be able to hear what you are feeling. Start talking to her before you get anywhere close to her cage.

If I was going to make a sound that would startle her I would mimic that sound first, so she will learn the sound is coming next and hopefully not be startled. It will take time for her to get to know you and trust you.

You must be relaxed in order for her to be relaxed, even if she startles. A squirrel monitors the emotions and behavior of the creatures around them and uses that in part to decide if you are a predator.

Most fruit has a very high water content so if she will eat fruit she is getting water. For example an apple is 85% water.

You might Google "The diet of a Caucasian squirrel" because they may have some special preferences.

[HRT4SQRLS]

Ok so i cover the cage and leave 1/2 of the front side put her both bowl and bottle of water and a mix of defferent nuts almongs peanuts seeds dehydrated fruits i will leave her for today to see if she will calm at least a bit..i only want her not to get sick or die and its not about the money i spent for here i rly love squirrels..if you see above i have a himalayan striped male i bought a female for him to make a couple and in the 20th day she just pass out in the night...woke up in the morning and found her in the nest not having any injury from tha male.. never saw something worry she was full of energy and curiosity but all of suden...so i dont want to lose her too ..i expect anither female himalayan from the pet shop i got here cuz was differnt from the male one.i called them and tell them what happend and they told me they would replace her with no charge and i waitng her in the end of september.

You have to get them on a healthy diet. Nuts and seeds are SUPER unhealthy. They have a high amount of phosphorus in them. The body has a delicate balance between calcium and phosphorus. If high phosphorus foods are fed, the body will pull calcium from the bones to achieve the balance. This is what causes Metabolic Bone Disease. In the later stages of MBD, squirrels become paralyzed in the hind legs and will start having seizures. Death follows. Nuts should only be given as a treat... one per day. Here is a link to the healthy diet. https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?44440-Healthy-Diet-for-Pet-Squirrels

I know you can’t get Henry’s block but maybe you can get a rodent (rat) block at a pet store. Get the type for rats. It will look like an extruded brown/tan block. Don’t get other type rodent food that looks like a seed/nut mix. You will probably have to use it as a base to make a palatable block. Some crush the blocks and add Apple baby food, avocado, peanut butter, etc. The goal is to find a mix they will eat yet maintain the nutrients of the block.

You will have a hard time getting them to eat healthy because the ‘junk’ food tastes better. They will hold out for nuts but their life depends on getting them on a healthy diet.

[Napped]

You have to get them on a healthy diet. Nuts and seeds are SUPER unhealthy. They have a high amount of phosphorus in them. The body has a delicate balance between calcium and phosphorus. If high phosphorus foods are fed, the body will pull calcium from the bones to achieve the balance. This is what causes Metabolic Bone Disease. In the later stages of MBD, squirrels become paralyzed in the hind legs and will start having seizures. Death follows. Nuts should only be given as a treat... one per day. Here is a link to the healthy diet. https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?44440-Healthy-Diet-for-Pet-Squirrels

I know you can’t get Henry’s block but maybe you can get a rodent (rat) block at a pet store. Get the type for rats. It will look like an extruded brown/tan block. Don’t get other type rodent food that looks like a seed/nut mix. You will probably have to use it as a base to make a palatable block. Some crush the blocks and add Apple baby food, avocado, peanut butter, etc. The goal is to find a mix they will eat yet maintain the nutrients of the block.

You will have a hard time getting them to eat healthy because the ‘junk’ food tastes better. They will hold out for nuts but their life depends on getting them on a healthy diet.
When the male start to cant walk well with his back feet i rearch for the mbd and what to do i bought calcium carbonate in piles powder them and put them in his food also got vitame d in liguid for rodents from pet store and put to his water and i search for the closest thing to a henrys block in pet store in my country the best (from the ingridents)was rodent pelet style food and i bought the highest calcium one after all that he seems pretty better.before coudnt walk straight and now climbing and jump easy also he eat and drink more. To him i give like a grape or a slice of fruit in night before sleep like a treat..now i am rly worry for the female..

[Napped]

Is possible that she want to hibernation?

[HRT4SQRLS]

I’m not familiar with Caucasian squirrels. When I looked it up I saw that Caucasian squirrels are ground squirrels. I really don’t know a thing about ground squirrels. I might be mistaken but I think ground squirrel do hibernate.

I wouldn’t rule out the other issues we talked about. Stress and diet.

[Napped]

I’m not familiar with Caucasian squirrels. When I looked it up I saw that Caucasian squirrels are ground squirrels. I really don’t know a thing about ground squirrels. I might be mistaken but I think ground squirrel do hibernate.

I wouldn’t rule out the other issues we talked about. Stress and diet.

In the first day i got her (from my exitement) i take her to my bed to cudle and i think that after some minutes of pet her as smoother as i could i think she relax a little..do you suggest that for a little betwen the day or let her to be confutable in the cage and room first?

[CrazyCatLady]

In the first day i got her (from my exitement) i take her to my bed to cudle and i think that after some minutes of pet her as smoother as i could i think she relax a little..do you suggest that for a little betwen the day or let her to be confutable in the cage and room first?

I think if cuddling with her seems to relax her there is nothing wrong with that. Maybe your company gives her comfort and you could offer her some fruit while cuddling with her. There have been times when my boy would only eat from my fingers and not his dish.

[Napped]

Does any of these provides enough minerals and nutriciens for a healthy diet of a suirrel?


https://ibb.co/hfNr1Dv


https://ibb.co/JqTQBr6


https://ibb.co/jRZP3BD


https://ibb.co/KXtJxsW

[Charley Chuckles]

In the first day i got her (from my exitement) i take her to my bed to cudle and i think that after some minutes of pet her as smoother as i could i think she relax a little..do you suggest that for a little betwen the day or let her to be confutable in the cage and room first?

That's pretty great she let you cuddle with her on the first day you got her:grouphug

[TubeDriver]

Hi HRT, I looked up Caucasian Squirrel and it seems like it is a tree squirrel? It seems to most closely resemble a larger version of our American Red squirrel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_squirrel

https://animaldiversity.org/accounts/Sciurus_anomalus/

https://arasbaran.org/en/news.cfm?id=483





I’m not familiar with Caucasian squirrels. When I looked it up I saw that Caucasian squirrels are ground squirrels. I really don’t know a thing about ground squirrels. I might be mistaken but I think ground squirrel do hibernate.

I wouldn’t rule out the other issues we talked about. Stress and diet.

[TubeDriver]

Assuming your Caucasian squirrel is similar to our Red squirrel, I don't think that food will be correct. The protein level (18%) is correct but it has much more grass type ingredients which would be better suited to a rabbit. You can make some squirrel rodent block from raw ingredients:

This formula is curtesy of Henrys Healthy Pet Formula

Dry ingredients:
80 g Pure Whey Protein Isolate for adult formula (for growth formula, use 160 g).
130 g finely ground nuts (any kind; peanuts, pecans, or almonds work well)
1/3 cup wheat flour (optional)
1 tsp aluminum-free baking powder
1 package (45 g) Henry's Healthy Vita-Mins*

Wet ingredients:
1 whole egg
1 tsp vanilla or almond extract (optional)
1/2 cup water, or a little more, as needed (this is for growth formula only; do not add water to the adult formula unless the dough is too dry when mixed)

Instructions:
Place dry ingredients in a large bowl and mix well.

Add all the wet ingredients to the dry ingredients and mix with a fork until dough sticks together. It will be fairly dry, like pie crust dough. Wearing gloves or with your bare hands (oiled), press the dough down and then start to knead it. Once the dough forms a ball, place it onto a lightly greased surface and knead a few more times until smooth and uniform in color. Roll dough out into a roll or flatten into a square, and place on a lightly greased baking sheet. Bake for 1 1/2 hours. While still warm, cut into 60 pieces with a sharp knife

Allow the blocks to cool for at least 2 hours. Then place in zip-lock bags and store them in the fridge or freezer. They will keep in the fridge for several weeks. They will keep in the freezer for several months (unopened and with as much air as possible removed from the bag before sealing). Some squirrels enjoy eating them cold or frozen, but you can also put a cold block into the microwave for about 5-10 seconds to warm it up.

Feed 2-3 per day for a 1-pound (453 g) squirrel. Different squirrels will have different energy requirements.

*If you want to make your own vitamin/mineral premix, please consult the Nutrient Requirements of Laboratory Animals-Rats, or one of the standard nutrient profiles for rats, such as those used in commercial rodent blocks.

Copyright 2009 Henry's Healthy Pet Foods, Inc.




Does any of these provides enough minerals and nutriciens for a healthy diet of a suirrel?


https://ibb.co/hfNr1Dv


https://ibb.co/JqTQBr6


https://ibb.co/jRZP3BD


https://ibb.co/KXtJxsW

[Napped]

Assuming your Caucasian squirrel is similar to our Red squirrel, I don't think that food will be correct. The protein level (18%) is correct but it has much more grass type ingredients which would be better suited to a rabbit. You can make some squirrel rodent block from raw ingredients:

This formula is curtesy of Henrys Healthy Pet Formula

Dry ingredients:
80 g Pure Whey Protein Isolate for adult formula (for growth formula, use 160 g).
130 g finely ground nuts (any kind; peanuts, pecans, or almonds work well)
1/3 cup wheat flour (optional)
1 tsp aluminum-free baking powder
1 package (45 g) Henry's Healthy Vita-Mins*

Wet ingredients:
1 whole egg
1 tsp vanilla or almond extract (optional)
1/2 cup water, or a little more, as needed (this is for growth formula only; do not add water to the adult formula unless the dough is too dry when mixed)

Instructions:
Place dry ingredients in a large bowl and mix well.

Add all the wet ingredients to the dry ingredients and mix with a fork until dough sticks together. It will be fairly dry, like pie crust dough. Wearing gloves or with your bare hands (oiled), press the dough down and then start to knead it. Once the dough forms a ball, place it onto a lightly greased surface and knead a few more times until smooth and uniform in color. Roll dough out into a roll or flatten into a square, and place on a lightly greased baking sheet. Bake for 1 1/2 hours. While still warm, cut into 60 pieces with a sharp knife

Allow the blocks to cool for at least 2 hours. Then place in zip-lock bags and store them in the fridge or freezer. They will keep in the fridge for several weeks. They will keep in the freezer for several months (unopened and with as much air as possible removed from the bag before sealing). Some squirrels enjoy eating them cold or frozen, but you can also put a cold block into the microwave for about 5-10 seconds to warm it up.

Feed 2-3 per day for a 1-pound (453 g) squirrel. Different squirrels will have different energy requirements.

*If you want to make your own vitamin/mineral premix, please consult the Nutrient Requirements of Laboratory Animals-Rats, or one of the standard nutrient profiles for rats, such as those used in commercial rodent blocks.

Copyright 2009 Henry's Healthy Pet Foods, Inc.
I have seen all these recipes for homemade blocks the problem is that here in greece i cant order nether from henrys(blocks and vitamins powder) and fox valley formulas..i dont know i i can go to a pharmasy for human and buy pure calcium carbinate,pure phosphorus,etc and mesuring them to the correct mg will be fine?like to make a perfect copy of henryw vitamins powder

[Napped]

316456

https://ibb.co/Jz9MPhM
Is it possible to make this my own?

[Napped]

316456

https://ibb.co/Jz9MPhM
Is it possible to make this my own?

Or any big company like oxbow that has a decent squirrel food bag that provide the nessecery to search in my country?

[Rock Monkey]

316456

https://ibb.co/Jz9MPhM
Is it possible to make this my own?

I would not try to make your own vitamin powder. In my opinion there are too many ways for that to go wrong. You might end up killing her.

I think if you feed her a variety of healthy human food items and are able to take her outside in her cage for some sunshine I think she can be plenty healthy. It is important that you only take her outside when she is in the cage or you may loose her and I don't know if where you live will be a safe environment for her. That depends on where you live.

Whole milk, plain (no sugar added, no fruit added) Greek yogurt is a good substitute for formula. She will get calcium and plenty of calories.

I know grey squirrels love avocado.

[Napped]

I would not try to make your own vitamin powder. In my opinion there are too many ways for that to go wrong. You might end up killing her.

I think if you feed her a variety of healthy human food items and are able to take her outside in her cage for some sunshine I think she can be plenty healthy. It is important that you only take her outside when she is in the cage or you may loose her and I don't know if where you live will be a safe environment for her. That depends on where you live.

Whole milk, plain (no sugar added, no fruit added) Greek yogurt is a good substitute for formula. She will get calcium and plenty of calories.

I know grey squirrels love avocado.

Human food like?

[Spanky]

Whole milk, plain (no sugar added, no fruit added) Greek yogurt is a good substitute for formula.

I disagree that this is anything near a good substitute to a squirrel appropriate formula FWIW.

[Spanky]

I am wondering if Zupreem Primate Block might be available in Greece? This is a decent block to use for squirrels... here is a link to their page. There is customer care email address that maybe you could inquire as to availability in Greece?

https://zupreem.com/zoo-animals/primate-diet-dry/

[Napped]

I am wondering if Zupreem Primate Block might be available in Greece? This is a decent block to use for squirrels... here is a link to their page. There is customer care email address that maybe you could inquire as to availability in Greece?

https://zupreem.com/zoo-animals/primate-diet-dry/


Do you have any suggest in vitakraft?i find this company a lot in pet stores here
Like any sugar glider bag would be ok at least for the himalayan that is a small squirrel like gliders like this316457

[Rock Monkey]

I disagree that this is anything near a good substitute to a squirrel appropriate formula FWIW.

To clarify, if he can't get a healthy, squirrel appropriate formula the Greek Yogurt would be better than nothing. That's all I was trying to say.

[Rock Monkey]

Human food like?

https://www.henryspets.com/healthy-diet-for-pet-squirrels/

This list is a good place to start. Try some items and see what she likes.

[CrazyCatLady]

Since there doesn't appear to be a lot to choose from in Greece, what about this? It's one of the few items available strictly for rats. Another one available uses chicken as a source of protein. Any thoughts?

[mel_la_fee]

So SquirrelRefuge.org (https://squirrelrefuge.org/squirrelblock.html) provides this recipe that sounds pretty legit. At least starting out with this gives you some time to find a food that is available in Greece and can be ordered if it turns out it's not available in a store nearby:

Preheat oven to 205o Fahrenheit (96 o Celsius). Prep time 25 Minutes, Bake time 90 Minutes

3 cups nuts (300g)*
1 3/4 Cups 100% Whey Protein Powder (Plain or vanilla)(150g) **
3 Large Eggs (50g each, total 150g)
2/3 Cup Whole Wheat Flour or ground rodent block (100g)
2 tsp Vanilla
2 tsp Aluminum-Free Baking Soda
1-2 Tbs water
Vitamins***
Total food weight approximately 700 grams or .70 kilograms
(Important for calculation vitamin and mineral supplementation)
Notes:

* Nuts without shells. Pecans, Walnuts and Hazelnuts (filberts) are generally preferred; however, Peanuts and Almonds may also be used for variety. Mixing Pecans and Walnuts with one of the other nuts ensures balanced Vitamin E.

** Pure Whey protein can comes as a concentrate, an isolate, or a combination of the two. Any formulation will work. Isolate is a more pure form than concentrate and has lower levels of lactose and fat; however, pure isolate can be more difficult to find, more expensive and result in a very high protein product. We use a combination of 80% concentrate/20% isolate that reduces the block’s protein level to a level closer to rodent block. We find the squirrels prefer the vanilla flavor.

*** Calcium (3 grams (or 3000 mg) calcium without added Vitamin D, Magnesium 1 gram (or 1000 mg) ,50 IU Vitamin D3 (if no natural or full spectrum lighting provided a minimum of 20 minutes per day) Do not over supplement vitamin D. Serve with foods rich in Vitamins A, C, E & the B vitamins

Squirrel block is higher in calories and fat and lower in carbohydrates than rodent block, but lower in fat and protein, and higher in carbohydrates then straight nuts. Squirrels cannot thrive on a diet of nuts, seeds and corn and are at much higher risk for serious illness, such as metabolic bone disease, when these make up the bulk of the diet.

[mel_la_fee]

Forgot to add that you should avoid Brazil nuts. Some people have reported health issues when feeding too many of these (I think it has something to do with the selenium content).

[Spanky]

SquirrelRefuge.org is top notch! :thumbsup

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So SquirrelRefuge.org (https://squirrelrefuge.org/squirrelblock.html) provides this recipe that sounds pretty legit. At least starting out with this gives you some time to find a food that is available in Greece and can be ordered if it turns out it's not available in a store nearby:

Preheat oven to 205o Fahrenheit (96 o Celsius). Prep time 25 Minutes, Bake time 90 Minutes

3 cups nuts (300g)*
1 3/4 Cups 100% Whey Protein Powder (Plain or vanilla)(150g) **
3 Large Eggs (50g each, total 150g)
2/3 Cup Whole Wheat Flour or ground rodent block (100g)
2 tsp Vanilla
2 tsp Aluminum-Free Baking Soda
1-2 Tbs water
Vitamins***
Total food weight approximately 700 grams or .70 kilograms
(Important for calculation vitamin and mineral supplementation)
Notes:

* Nuts without shells. Pecans, Walnuts and Hazelnuts (filberts) are generally preferred; however, Peanuts and Almonds may also be used for variety. Mixing Pecans and Walnuts with one of the other nuts ensures balanced Vitamin E.

** Pure Whey protein can comes as a concentrate, an isolate, or a combination of the two. Any formulation will work. Isolate is a more pure form than concentrate and has lower levels of lactose and fat; however, pure isolate can be more difficult to find, more expensive and result in a very high protein product. We use a combination of 80% concentrate/20% isolate that reduces the block’s protein level to a level closer to rodent block. We find the squirrels prefer the vanilla flavor.

*** Calcium (3 grams (or 3000 mg) calcium without added Vitamin D, Magnesium 1 gram (or 1000 mg) ,50 IU Vitamin D3 (if no natural or full spectrum lighting provided a minimum of 20 minutes per day) Do not over supplement vitamin D. Serve with foods rich in Vitamins A, C, E & the B vitamins

Squirrel block is higher in calories and fat and lower in carbohydrates than rodent block, but lower in fat and protein, and higher in carbohydrates then straight nuts. Squirrels cannot thrive on a diet of nuts, seeds and corn and are at much higher risk for serious illness, such as metabolic bone disease, when these make up the bulk of the diet.

I would go for this repice if icl could get those vitamins*** but from where?
Thats my top problem i cant find a solution for that

[Spanky]

Vitamins***

*** Calcium (3 grams (or 3000 mg) calcium without added Vitamin D, Magnesium 1 gram (or 1000 mg) ,50 IU Vitamin D3 (if no natural or full spectrum lighting provided a minimum of 20 minutes per day) Do not over supplement vitamin D.

In this formula, to "vitamins" are calcium, Magnesium and small amounts of Vitamin D3 (no need for vitamin D if they get decent sunlight daily). Not the VitaMin package from Henry's.

The calcium and magnesium (and Vit D3) could be found here in a health food store of even a pharmacy.

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In this formula, to "vitamins" are calcium, Magnesium and small amounts of Vitamin D3 (no need for vitamin D if they get decent sunlight daily). Not the VitaMin package from Henry's.

The calcium and magnesium (and Vit D3) could be found here in a health food store of even a pharmacy.

So let me get this right cuz will be a huge progress and helpful

If i get this
https://ibb.co/jrJtN7c

This
https://ibb.co/sJ0VYGJ

And this
https://ibb.co/YjBFF9W

I am able to make the blocks with the correct measurs??

I guy from here suggest me this https://ibb.co/rQcCXc0 cuz its they only i can possibly get from pet shops here and that i can make boo balls with that and gonna search for it tomorrow

I also have some vitamin c for rodents in drops and i put in the water

[Spanky]

Yes, No, Yes.

The Calcium Citrate you posted has Vitamin D3 added.... it is a human form and as a "human" product in contains too much Vitamin D for your squirrel. Try to find some plain (no other ingredients) Calcium Citrate or Calcium Carbonate.

The Oxbow Rat food is a good food for squirrels, but it would need to be about 75% or more of everything they eat. It would be okay to "freely feed" (be available all the time) the Oxbow and it would be wonderful if they actually would eat it.

I feel like you are making good progress, I commend you for your tenaciousness to get them a proper diet !

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Yes, No, Yes.

The Calcium Citrate you posted has Vitamin D3 added.... it is a human form and as a "human" product in contains too much Vitamin D for your squirrel. Try to find some plain (no other ingredients) Calcium Citrate or Calcium Carbonate.

The Oxbow Rat food is a good food for squirrels, but it would need to be about 75% or more of everything they eat. It would be okay to "freely feed" (be available all the time) the Oxbow and it would be wonderful if they actually would eat it.

I feel like you are making good progress, I commend you for your tenaciousness to get them a proper diet !

THANKS GOD FINALLY SOME PROGRESS!!!I AM VERY VERY HAPPY TO FINALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO BE SURE!!! I will try to find calcium carbonate without vitamin c or at least citrate.. would the drops be a problem?

Ι propably can get this too
https://ibb.co/Lxw5rvT

[Spanky]

THANKS GOD FINALLY SOME PROGRESS!!!I AM VERY VERY HAPPY TO FINALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO BE SURE!!! I will try to find calcium carbonate without vitamin c or at least citrate.. would the drops be a problem?

Ι propably can get this too
https://ibb.co/Lxw5rvT

Posting a picture of the vitamin c drops product would be helpful to get guidance.

This Calcium Citrate without Vit D3 would work for the rodent block recipe.

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Posting a picture of the vitamin c drops product would be helpful to get guidance.

This Calcium Citrate without Vit D3 would work for the rodent block recipe.
Here

https://ibb.co/2hrncrz

https://ibb.co/JrMczmT

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Update for oxbow
So my bad luck continues as ADULT RAT ITS THEY ONLY THAT THEY DONT BRING IN GREECE(cuz ppl dont buy it) They bring guineas big chinchila and rabbit petshops saw me the portfolio of the company and they cant order it...i am searhcing for a online order now for it..

I decide that i will force give her water today so she dont dyhadrate at least..last night she just take 2 tiny bites from a apple but i cant know if she drunk any water...also she propably have mbd regardless she doesnt show symptoms cuz her diet in pet shop was terrible..

[Charley Chuckles]

Can you order from Amazon?

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Can you order from Amazon?

No cuz greece isnt in delivery options for oxbow on amazon BUT only 1 guy from 10 pet stores i talk for it told me he spoke with his dealer and he will have it in 2 days but i am not sure cuz in another pet store that a guy worked for oxbow here in greecee told me that they wont bring it so i have my fingers crosed for that 1 guy..

[Charley Chuckles]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075H349QL/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_fab_1UFAFbEZTV0TC
Not sure you can get this, but this is what I use.
I sometimes crush it up add a little baby food in a jar like apple, form in small balls freeze them and give, mine seem to like it that way.
If they take them right from the bag that's great too, but when they get tired of that I give the frozzen treats😉

[CrazyCatLady]

Posting a picture of the vitamin c drops product would be helpful to get guidance.

This Calcium Citrate without Vit D3 would work for the rodent block recipe.


No cuz greece isnt in delivery options for oxbow on amazon BUT only 1 guy from 10 pet stores i talk for it told me he spoke with his dealer and he will have it in 2 days but i am not sure cuz in another pet store that a guy worked for oxbow here in greecee told me that they wont bring it so i have my fingers crosed for that 1 guy..

Have you ever ordered through ubuy? I'm not real familiar with it but see that they have it for different countries including Greece. Here is a link for Teklad rodent blocks. They also have Mazuri and some Oxbow, but I didn't go through all the search results.
https://www.ubuy.com.gr/en/search/index/view/product/B00N0EPSLO/s/nesom-distributing-envigo-formerly-harlan-teklad-global-rat-food-pellets-2018/store/store

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Have you ever ordered through ubuy? I'm not real familiar with it but see that they have it for different countries including Greece. Here is a link for Teklad rodent blocks. They also have Mazuri and some Oxbow, but I didn't go through all the search results.
https://www.ubuy.com.gr/en/search/index/view/product/B00N0EPSLO/s/nesom-distributing-envigo-formerly-harlan-teklad-global-rat-food-pellets-2018/store/store
I think that yeah i can order it from there but right now doesnt have that much in my card cuz it doubles the money value(weight + sone extras) and goes from 27 to 62 € for 5lb and doesnt have less than 5lb.GOD BLESS YOU THAT YOU PROVIDE ME THIS LINK.
if that guy that told me he will get the oxbow doesnt bring it i will order the teklab from here.
They also have the oxbow too
The meanwile progress was that i give her some water with a syringe to avoid dehydration (water i little honey and a very little amount of salt )also she take a tiny bite of melon from my hand but she havent touch the bowl with her food.
She is not aggresive at all.
As it seems she can walk,crawl,cratch with ease if she want to but she mostly dont ,she pick a corner and lay.

I will update if something happen and the progress we doing and specialy when the food arive.
If anyone have any other idea please share

Crazycatlady I own you a big THANKS for helping me so.much AND OF COURSE TO ALL OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT POST AND SHARE THEIR WISDOM WITH ME AND CARE
THANK YOU ALL GUYS

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What do you guys think for my cages ?
I build the big one my own for the couple of himalayans now only kodi(the male)take advantage of it as the first female is not with us anymore.. :(
in a few days the new female arives..
Any suggest how i must introduce each other so they not have problem to live together happy?
I have a bird cage that i can out inside the large one so they can smell each other and be familiar with


https://ibb.co/S7qZYsP

And one with kodi out of nest

https://ibb.co/WykFk5n

[Charley Chuckles]

Keeping my fingers crossed the pet store can get supplies for you.
Yes introduce separate cages so they get to know each other.
They may want their own sleeping quarters, mine do😉

[CrazyCatLady]

If you search through the ubuy website, some stuff is listed more than once and one of the foods I mentioned comes in a 2 lb. size. I can message you the links.

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The little angel has just arive :) :)
https://ibb.co/RjqkNH3

[CrazyCatLady]

The little angel has just arive :) :)
https://ibb.co/RjqkNH3

She's a cutie. I'm so glad your other girl is starting to eat. Have you named her yet?

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She's a cutie. I'm so glad your other girl is starting to eat. Have you named her yet?

Caucasian named sally

For the mew one i am thinking..
Any suggest?

[CrazyCatLady]

Caucasian named sally

For the mew one i am thinking..
Any suggest?

She's so tiny I would call her Pixie based on that, but sometimes they need a name based on personality which is how my cats Little Monster and Nuisance got their names.😂

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Update for sally(caucasian)

So again today give her water via syring so she dont dehydrate BUT SHE DONT EAT!!!

I CANT PROSSES IT LIKE WHAT SHE GONNA DO STARVING WITH THE FOOD NEXT TO HER???

Am i need to force feed too?

She also sometimes make a tremple with her mouth and make a smooth whistle sound

She is in rhe same spot near 10 hours now
I will try to make a video later to show you

[CrazyCatLady]

Update for sally(caucasian)

So again today give her water via syring so she dont dehydrate BUT SHE DONT EAT!!!

I CANT PROSSES IT LIKE WHAT SHE GONNA DO STARVING WITH THE FOOD NEXT TO HER???

Am i need to force feed too?

She also sometimes make a tremple with her mouth and make a smooth whistle sound

She is in rhe same spot near 10 hours now
I will try to make a video later to show you

If you're able to syringe her water, maybe try syringe feeding her baby food if you don't have any formula.

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If you're able to syringe her water, maybe try syringe feeding her baby food if you don't have any formula.

I am not sure ether if she drink water cuz i dont want to choke her i have never did this before so i dont now how much pressure to put to stabelize her and how much to giver her to her mouth..some water gets wasted also trying to so i am not rly sure i do this right

[mel_la_fee]

Use a syringe to give her just a few drops at a time and then wait a few seconds for her to swallow before giving her a few more drops. It can take a while but going slower is better. Also, here is a recipe for a hydration solution so that she also gets some electrolytes and her blood sugar doesn't drop too low while she's not eating:

Homemade Rehydration fluid:
1 cup warm water
1 tablespoon honey, molasses, syrup, or sugar
1 pinch salt

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Use a syringe to give her just a few drops at a time and then wait a few seconds for her to swallow before giving her a few more drops. It can take a while but going slower is better. Also, here is a recipe for a hydration solution so that she also gets some electrolytes and her blood sugar doesn't drop too low while she's not eating:

Homemade Rehydration fluid:
1 cup warm water
1 tablespoon honey, molasses, syrup, or sugar
1 pinch salt

That what i give her.. i read it somewhere here maybe from you

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Update sallys behavior and movement



https://youtube.com/watch?v=zbh1Mpdjn-A


https://youtube.com/watch?v=-iy3UXbt9oA


https://youtube.com/watch?v=imnCz3NY8lU

And when i put her back to her cage she always dose this
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Upadate..

So today i give her water again with syringe
She seems a liitle more energetic and this time was a little easier cuz she drink a little bit by own also lick some from the wasted that was droped
Try to feed her solid food but unsuccesfully..
I am thinking of grinding some mix of nuts and seeds with fruits to make a pasta like babies food go give her

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Hope i did this right..

316490

Fingers crossed!

2 blocks for the big one(caucasian/persian) and 1 for each small one (himalayans)?

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Aaaaand the results
They are looking pretty good
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[Charley Chuckles]

Good job, they look yummy 😁

[Nancy in New York]

Update sallys behavior and movement



https://youtube.com/watch?v=zbh1Mpdjn-A


https://youtube.com/watch?v=-iy3UXbt9oA


https://youtube.com/watch?v=imnCz3NY8lU

And when i put her back to her cage she always dose this
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Just a couple of things with these videos.
They LOVE to hide in cut pieces of blankets or old sweatshirts.
Nothing with any kind of loops because they get their nails hung up.
Make sure the container she is in is deep enough so that she cannot crawl out
if you aren't using the cage.

Never let her be able to get to the ground, or to fall.
She should never be around exposed wires, ever.
We have seen too many squirrels electrocuted with one bite.

Her diet is way off.
Please go to the following link and follow the pyramid.


Upadate..

I am thinking of grinding some mix of nuts and seeds with fruits to make a pasta like babies food go give her

Is this their typical diet in your country, or are you just guessing.
She is absolutely adorable, by the way. :klunk
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?44440-Healthy-Diet-for-Pet-Squirrels

[Rock Monkey]

I am not sure ether if she drink water cuz i dont want to choke her i have never did this before so i dont now how much pressure to put to stabelize her and how much to giver her to her mouth..some water gets wasted also trying to so i am not rly sure i do this right

Below is a description of proper technique from Ms. Cummins. It is important that you learn the safe way to feed a squirrel with a syringe (no needle, of course) if not you can cause the water or food to go into the lungs which is very bad.

You can use the syringe to dispense baby food from a jar. Just buy the baby food with no sugar added.

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Feeding Technique

While holding the baby upright but leaning slightly forward with the oral syringe angled slightly upward and forward to form a 90 degree angle with the baby, you can place the tip of the oral syringe right to the babies lips then gently and slowly squeeze one drop for them to taste. (Photo below) When babies are 4 weeks of age and older they may prefer to lie prone on their stomachs while grasping the syringe in their paws. They may start to make suckling, licking or lapping motions with their mouths and tongue then you can slowly squeeze out more drops of fluid. Do not squeeze out a regular stream, instead squeeze a tiny bit then allow them to swallow that amount before squeezing more. With pinkies I go drop by drop because they are so easy to aspirate, i.e. to take fluids into the lungs by suction. If they become aspirated, they can die of pneumonia without proper treatment. Proper treatment is the use of antibiotics, generally Clavamox liquid. With older babies I will squeeze fluid slowly for one second, let them swallow that, then squeeze more. If fluids dribble out the mouth or come out the nose, you are going too fast. If fluids come out the nose, stop feeding immediately, hold them upside down for a few seconds, blot their nose with dry tissue paper then let them wait a few minutes before resuming feeding.

If the baby does not immediately suck, lick or lap the fluid, you can gently place the tip of the syringe into their mouth. It's sometimes easier to enter from the side of the mouth especially if they already have teeth. Then gently squeeze out a drop of fluid into their mouth for them to taste. It sometimes takes a feeding or two for them to catch onto the new feeding method.

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Below is a description of proper technique from Ms. Cummins. It is important that you learn the safe way to feed a squirrel with a syringe (no needle, of course) if not you can cause the water or food to go into the lungs which is very bad.

You can use the syringe to dispense baby food from a jar. Just buy the baby food with no sugar added.

316497

Feeding Technique

While holding the baby upright but leaning slightly forward with the oral syringe angled slightly upward and forward to form a 90 degree angle with the baby, you can place the tip of the oral syringe right to the babies lips then gently and slowly squeeze one drop for them to taste. (Photo below) When babies are 4 weeks of age and older they may prefer to lie prone on their stomachs while grasping the syringe in their paws. They may start to make suckling, licking or lapping motions with their mouths and tongue then you can slowly squeeze out more drops of fluid. Do not squeeze out a regular stream, instead squeeze a tiny bit then allow them to swallow that amount before squeezing more. With pinkies I go drop by drop because they are so easy to aspirate, i.e. to take fluids into the lungs by suction. If they become aspirated, they can die of pneumonia without proper treatment. Proper treatment is the use of antibiotics, generally Clavamox liquid. With older babies I will squeeze fluid slowly for one second, let them swallow that, then squeeze more. If fluids dribble out the mouth or come out the nose, you are going too fast. If fluids come out the nose, stop feeding immediately, hold them upside down for a few seconds, blot their nose with dry tissue paper then let them wait a few minutes before resuming feeding.

If the baby does not immediately suck, lick or lap the fluid, you can gently place the tip of the syringe into their mouth. It's sometimes easier to enter from the side of the mouth especially if they already have teeth. Then gently squeeze out a drop of fluid into their mouth for them to taste. It sometimes takes a feeding or two for them to catch onto the new feeding method.
Thanks a lot for advises the problem when i give her water is that she not a baby and he push me hard to release her and i do t want to harm her by keeping her still a try to put as less power in grip i can.. i make the blocks and put her remove all other seeds and nuts and i am gonna buy baby food to syrigne feed her if she still havent eat the block

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Update
Milly (female himalayan)eat almost immidenlty the block so i think i will not have problem with her
Kodi (male himalayn)was already eat much before i made them and he doesnt touch it yet but i think he will eat it tommorow that he will be hungry
Sally (caucasian) still be very very unactive laying all time also when i get her out to coudle with me shes ok but when i get her close to her cage to out her in she struggling to let her and goes staight in
Feed her baby food with no add sugar via syringe and she ate a little bit but not much.
I am starting to thinking if she need any medicine to boost her.
I am reading many different medicines here that guys give but i dont know what is for what.
Her belly is squizy as water ballon and on air and she had poop and pee but not much ether.
Any recomentetion for medicine?

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+I have one friend vet but ofc doesnt take on squirrels but he gave me ivermectin for kodi cuz then i got him was very very ichy to he stage that he got rid all the fur in spots until the hole spot was red and then bites it but now he has all his fur again not as healthy as millys but much better than before now he cratch him self again but he has no same effect

[Spanky]

I curious why the YouTube videos of Sally look like a different picture that was posted about her arrival. The arrival picture looks like a striped squirrel while the you tube looks like more like the pictures I see when I google Caucasian squirrels.

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I curious why the YouTube videos of Sally look like a different picture that was posted about her arrival. The arrival picture looks like a striped squirrel while the you tube looks like more like the pictures I see when I google Caucasian squirrels.
She is the same squirrel

[CrazyCatLady]

I curious why the YouTube videos of Sally look like a different picture that was posted about her arrival. The arrival picture looks like a striped squirrel while the you tube looks like more like the pictures I see when I google Caucasian squirrels.

I think you are referring to the photo of his female Himalayan he was waiting for to go with his male. The Caucasian is the squirrel in the video.

[Nancy in New York]

+I have one friend vet but ofc doesnt take on squirrels but he gave me ivermectin for kodi cuz then i got him was very very ichy to he stage that he got rid all the fur in spots until the hole spot was red and then bites it but now he has all his fur again not as healthy as millys but much better than before now he cratch him self again but he has no same effect

How much Ivermectim did you give.
This can be SO easily overdosed, and it causes death.
I suspect he is ok now, but in the future, please don't dose
without help and a weight on him. If you can't weigh we can do a low quesstimate
if you supply the picture.

[Spanky]

I think you are referring to the photo of his female Himalayan he was waiting for to go with his male. The Caucasian is the squirrel in the video.

You are right! I see it now.. you had asked about "his other girl" after the post of the "new arrival" (Himalayan) and my brain processed it as the new arrival was Sally. It gets confusing having multiple squirrels in the same thread with different issues (and in this case different species!!!)

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How much Ivermectim did you give.
This can be SO easily overdosed, and it causes death.
I suspect he is ok now, but in the future, please don't dose
without help and a weight on him. If you can't weigh we can do a low quesstimate
if you supply the picture. i gave him a niddle drop from 2cc syringe every 8-10 days for like 3 times

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You are right! I see it now.. you had asked about "his other girl" after the post of the "new arrival" (Himalayan) and my brain processed it as the new arrival was Sally. It gets confusing having multiple squirrels in the same thread with different issues (and in this case different species!!!) you are right i posted some non concept things in this thread thats why i make other one just for sallys lethargic

[CrazyCatLady]

You are right! I see it now.. you had asked about "his other girl" after the post of the "new arrival" (Himalayan) and my brain processed it as the new arrival was Sally. It gets confusing having multiple squirrels in the same thread with different issues (and in this case different species!!!)

It is a lot to keep up with ☺. I suggested he start a new thread, which he did. Hopefully that cuts down on the confusion.

[Spanky]

i gave him a niddle drop from 2cc syringe every 8-10 days for like 3 times

I hope the Ivermectin was diluted by the vet? Not a good idea to give Ivermectin to a (potentially )pregnant squirrel FWIW.

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I hope the Ivermectin was diluted by the vet? Not a good idea to give Ivermectin to a (potentially )pregnant squirrel FWIW.no no ivermectin was for male himalayan the firsts days i got him..didnt knew about tsb so i didnt search much

[stepnstone]

Ok so i cover the cage and leave 1/2 of the front side put her both bowl and bottle of water and a mix of defferent nuts almongs peanuts seeds dehydrated fruits i will leave her for today to see if she will calm at least a bit..i only want her not to get sick or die and its not about the money i spent for here i rly love squirrels..if you see above i have a himalayan striped male i bought a female for him to make a couple and in the 20th day she just pass out in the night...woke up in the morning and found her in the nest not having any injury from tha male.. never saw something worry she was full of energy and curiosity but all of suden...so i dont want to lose her too ..i expect anither female himalayan from the pet shop i got here cuz was differnt from the male one.i called them and tell them what happend and they told me they would replace her with no charge and i waitng her in the end of september.

HRT4sqrls in post #15 discussed the diet and mbd, this needs to be taken very seriously!
The diet you are continuing to feed is definitely a precursor for mbd.
Mbd is painful, it cripples, untreated it eventually will kill them.

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HRT4sqrls in post #15 discussed the diet and mbd, this needs to be taken very seriously!
The diet you are continuing to feed is definitely a precursor for mbd.
Mbd is painful, it cripples, untreated it eventually will kill them.

I make the hernys blocks didnt eat them as solid..i grinded one and mix it with baby cream food and give her via syringe..

NOTE: i dont give her nuts and fruita anymore all that was there for not starving to death by no eating until i found a solution for rodent blocks.here in greece i cant find decent rotend blocks in stores there is a fu**ing law the prevents the stores to bring in greece so i collect the infos to make them my own and i start to give her all that time she doesnt eat 1 seed or 1 nut..i am trying my best to give her all she need to make her healthy...

[Charley Chuckles]

I did see where you removed the seeds, nuts.
It's so difficult when you can't get the food in your country😕
Is she refusing to eat anything on her own?
Seeing her video she looks scared, but might have other issues as others have said.
You would think when she was left alone she would eat🤔
I think you already posted this but can you see if her teeth are ok? I know she let's you pick her up and syringe her, have you seen her teeth?
I'm just trying to think of anything that might help.
Again this might have been posted, what did they feed her at the pet store? I'm not saying what they fed her would be a good diet anyway, just wondering what she ate while in their care.

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I did see where you removed the seeds, nuts.
It's so difficult when you can't get the food in your country😕
Is she refusing to eat anything on her own?
Seeing her video she looks scared, but might have other issues as others have said.
You would think when she was left alone she would eat🤔
I think you already posted this but can you see if her teeth are ok? I know she let's you pick her up and syringe her, have you seen her teeth?
I'm just trying to think of anything that might help.
Again this might have been posted, what did they feed her at the pet store? I'm not saying what they fed her would be a good diet anyway, just wondering what she ate while in their care.

Doesnt eat anything by her own or drink water even the mix seed and fruit i put her until i made the blocks
Pet store gave mix seed nuts and fruits
I have post a pic of her teeth in the other tread i made for medicine advice if there is any
Now i desolve calcium in water with the baby cream food and give her plus plain water
Tried to give her tiny bites of the block but droped them from mouth
Only this morning i see the block in other place that i put it(not far away but a little moved
She also some times make a trembling with her mouth for like 3 secs

[Spanky]

I have post a pic of her teeth in the other tread i made for medicine advice if there is any


Here is the teeth picture from the other thread where they were posted... they look fine to me, but if you see something say something!
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=316509&d=1601141131





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[Spanky]

She also some times make a trembling with her mouth for like 3 secs

A video of this would be great but it almost sounds like you are describing their "chattering" behavior. When squirrels are scared or agitated they will quickly click their teeth together (their lower jaw moves quickly, as if trembling) and it can make a chattering noise (sometimes this is very loud, others times muted)... they are doing this as a warning. For example, if they are eating and your hand gets too close to them they may do this to warn to to back away from them and their food. Or even when you reach out to pet them and they are not welcoming to the petting. I get this a lot when i reach into their nests (cubbies) for a stash check. It often happens just before they bite... :hurt

[Napped]

A video of this would be great but it almost sounds like you are describing their "chattering" behavior. When squirrels are scared or agitated they will quickly click their teeth together (their lower jaw moves quickly, as if trembling) and it can make a chattering noise (sometimes this is very loud, others times muted)... they are doing this as a warning. For example, if they are eating and your hand gets too close to them they may do this to warn to to back away from them and their food. Or even when you reach out to pet them and they are not welcoming to the petting. I get this a lot when i reach into their nests (cubbies) for a stash check. It often happens just before they bite... :hurt


She made it more ofen in the feeding prosess or a little after that i pet her so its very possible that its what you descripe.
Making that trembling get me to think that propabky she havent some jaw issue i will try to.make a video of that to see

[Napped]

Here is small video of feeding her
I am pushing very slightly
Am i doing this right?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0qvSUQhNrpQ

[Spanky]

I would try wrapping her up in a piece of cloth (fleece of flannel work best) like a burrito and hold her while feeding. Try covering her eyes with some of the cloth... this is what I do with juvenile squirrels that arrive with their eyes already open. It calms them down quite a bit and they relax and eat much better.

[Napped]

I would try wrapping her up in a piece of cloth (fleece of flannel work best) like a burrito and hold her while feeding. Try covering her eyes with some of the cloth... this is what I do with juvenile squirrels that arrive with their eyes already open. It calms them down quite a bit and they relax and eat much better.

Like this?
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[Spanky]

Yes, perfect and it helps them to relax to cover their eyes while feeding. This will help in the transition of her becoming more comfortable with her new surroundings and you as well.

[Charley Chuckles]

Sally is a doll😄
I will say after watching the video the NOISE scared me😨 I'm guessing your TV is really LOUD 😲
You may want to move her it's really intense 😣

[Napped]

You may want to move her it's really intense 😣
I dont get what you meaning here,sorry not your fault my english are limited can you explain it in other way?also for the tv i will turn it off in the feeding

[Charley Chuckles]

So SWEET all wrapped up :grin2
I watched the video again, may be just the way it comes out, sounds like a lot of background noise.
That's all I meant👍
Is she taking the food/ formula better?

[Rock Monkey]

I dont get what you meaning here,sorry not your fault my english are limited can you explain it in other way?also for the tv i will turn it off in the feeding

A squirrel's number one job is not to get eaten. To achieve this they monitor their environment very carefully. They use all of their senses to detect the presence of a predator in their environment. They are hyper vigilant. If not, they are dead.

These squirrels that you have are in an environment which is radically different from the outdoor, natural world. They do not understand. They do not understand that these sounds from the TV are not part of their environment, but rather a fiction created for entertainment. You understand these things. They do not.

A squirrel regards anything strange as potentially threatening. That is the safe assumption because if you are a squirrel and you assume something is not threatening, dangerous and it turns out that it is dangerous you are a dead squirrel.

Loud noises, unusual noises freak squirrels out. Quick sounds, violent sounds often accompany violent actions in a squirrel's world.

So what Charley Chuckles was trying to say was that part of the reason your squirrel(s) are unmoving is that they feel threatened. When threatened they find a small place where they can conceal themselves and then the squirrel does not move at all and the squirrel hopes that the predator can't find them and will give up the hunt. This may be part of the problem with your Caucasian squirrel who doesn't want to eat. It isn't enough that you turn off the TV when you feed. Think of humans who suffer from shell shock (traumatized by war)

In time they may come to not worry about the sounds from the TV but right now they are in shock from a complete change in their environment.

Is there a room where you can put the squirrels that doesn't have a TV?

Or maybe you can listen to the TV with headphones.

[Charley Chuckles]

A squirrel's number one job is not to get eaten. To achieve this they monitor their environment very carefully. They use all of their senses to detect the presence of a predator in their environment. They are hyper vigilant. If not, they are dead.

These squirrels that you have are in an environment which is radically different from the outdoor, natural world. They do not understand. They do not understand that these sounds from the TV are not part of their environment, but rather a fiction created for entertainment. You understand these things. They do not.

A squirrel regards anything strange as potentially threatening. That is the safe assumption because if you are a squirrel and you assume something is not threatening, dangerous and it turns out that it is dangerous you are a dead squirrel.

Loud noises, unusual noises freak squirrels out. Quick sounds, violent sounds often accompany violent actions in a squirrel's world.

So what Charley Chuckles was trying to say was that part of the reason your squirrel(s) are unmoving is that they feel threatened. When threatened they find a small place where they can conceal themselves and then not move at all and the squirrel hopes that the predator can't find find and will give up the hunt.

Is there a room where you can put the squirrels that doesn't have a TV?

Or maybe you can listen to the TV with headphones.

Thank you, you explained it much better than I 😉

[Napped]

A squirrel's number one job is not to get eaten. To achieve this they monitor their environment very carefully. They use all of their senses to detect the presence of a predator in their environment. They are hyper vigilant. If not, they are dead.

These squirrels that you have are in an environment which is radically different from the outdoor, natural world. They do not understand. They do not understand that these sounds from the TV are not part of their environment, but rather a fiction created for entertainment. You understand these things. They do not.

A squirrel regards anything strange as potentially threatening. That is the safe assumption because if you are a squirrel and you assume something is not threatening, dangerous and it turns out that it is dangerous you are a dead squirrel.

Loud noises, unusual noises freak squirrels out. Quick sounds, violent sounds often accompany violent actions in a squirrel's world.

So what Charley Chuckles was trying to say was that part of the reason your squirrel(s) are unmoving is that they feel threatened. When threatened they find a small place where they can conceal themselves and then the squirrel does not move at all and the squirrel hopes that the predator can't find them and will give up the hunt. This may be part of the problem with your Caucasian squirrel who doesn't want to eat. It isn't enough that you turn off the TV when you feed. Think of humans who suffer from shell shock (traumatized by war)

In time they may come to not worry about the sounds from the TV but right now they are in shock from a complete change in their environment.

Is there a room where you can put the squirrels that doesn't have a TV?

Or maybe you can listen to the TV with headphones.

You made that very clear :D

[Napped]

So SWEET all wrapped up :grin2
I watched the video again, may be just the way it comes out, sounds like a lot of background noise.
That's all I meant👍
Is she taking the food/ formula better?
Better than the first times but still nothing special

[Rock Monkey]

One more observation I have discovered.

As you try to get the squirrel's to trust you, don't stare at the squirrel. Look at out of the side of your eye, then look away, almost like you are little bit indifferent. Predators stare at their prey and I have seen the fear rising in the squirrel if I look at it directly, especially the longer I look at it.

Talk to her casually, in a relaxed way, the way you would with a good friend.

Yes, the symptoms of MBD can vary significantly. The extreme symptoms are the most obvious but lack of appetite and slight lack of coordination are some of the more subtle symptoms. The Caucasian might have some MBD.

[Napped]

One more observation I have discovered.

As you try to get the squirrel's to trust you, don't stare at the squirrel. Look at out of the side of your eye, then look away, almost like you are little bit indifferent. Predators stare at their prey and I have seen the fear rising in the squirrel if I look at it directly, especially the longer I look at it.

Talk to her casually, in a relaxed way, the way you would with a good friend.

Yes, the symptoms of MBD can vary significantly. The extreme symptoms are the most obvious but lack of appetite and slight lack of coordination are some of the more subtle symptoms. The Caucasian might have some MBD.

Thanks for advises i have started mdb treatment hope she will recover

[seahorse]

Update sallys behavior and movement



https://youtube.com/watch?v=zbh1Mpdjn-A


https://youtube.com/watch?v=-iy3UXbt9oA


https://youtube.com/watch?v=imnCz3NY8lU

And when i put her back to her cage she always dose this
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She is very, very scared, maybe the people at the pet store or the humans who handled her were not nice to her. That is typical behavior when they are frightened.This makes me so sad. Can you put a hammock in the top of the cage for her to sleep/rest? She needs someplace soft to feel comfortable. All you have to do is cut a piece of fleece or blanket in a square (maybe 12"), snip the corners about 2" so you can tie them at the top of the cage. . I would add some soft blanket or fleece at the bottom of her cage too, nothing with loops or it will get caught in her nails... talk softly, pet her softly.

[Rock Monkey]

Update sallys behavior and movement



https://youtube.com/watch?v=zbh1Mpdjn-A


https://youtube.com/watch?v=-iy3UXbt9oA


https://youtube.com/watch?v=imnCz3NY8lU

And when i put her back to her cage she always dose this
316478

Some suggestions when you open the cage:

Don't put your hand in right away. Move back and see how she responds. She may take minutes to explore the door and consider leaving the door. It is always preferable for the squirrel to come to you rather than you physically approaching her.

You consider changing how you pick her up. Rather than grasp her around the middle with your thumb and fingers (which is very similar to what a predator will do) slide your hands, palm up, under her feet. Doing so gently and slowly. This leaves her free to run away if she chooses.

Squirrels have been know to chew on electrical wires. I believe that they see them as branches that are in the way, so they chew on them to clear out their preferred location to hide. Installing a GFCI just in case might be a good idea. Bottom line, keep an eye on her. Chewing is more likely when a squirrel feels agitated.

[Napped]

Some suggestions when you open the cage:

Don't put your hand in right away. Move back and see how she responds. She may take minutes to explore the door and consider leaving the door. It is always preferable for the squirrel to come to you rather than you physically approaching her.

You consider changing how you pick her up. Rather than grasp her around the middle with your thumb and fingers (which is very similar to what a predator will do) slide your hands, palm up, under her feet. Doing so gently and slowly. This leaves her free to run away if she chooses.

Squirrels have been know to chew on electrical wires. I believe that they see them as branches that are in the way, so they chew on them to clear out their preferred location to hide. Installing a GFCI just in case might be a good idea. Bottom line, keep an eye on her. Chewing is more likely when a squirrel feels agitated.

She is not so active to explore the cage even if i dont open the door she stay in the same corner all day
Only when i feed her she have some movement
Also what is this GFCI ? xD

[seahorse]

She is not so active to explore the cage even if i dont open the door she stay in the same corner all day
Only when i feed her she have some movement
Also what is this GFCI ? xD


GFCI is a circuit breaker to automatically cut off electricity. She is not active because she is scared to death. I have not been able to stop thinking about this poor thing. I feel so sorry for her situation right now. She needs a quiet room (no tv, no loud noises), she needs branches from a safe tree, she needs soft blankets, a hammock up high to sleep in, she needs quiet and calm....that cage looks so inhospitable. I understand you mean well but I find it sad that they sell these squirrels in pet stores, they should not be sold to people who have no idea how to care for them. It is extremely important that they are cared for appropriately or they will die from not being cared for, they will also die from stress or depression. The only reason some people have them as pets is because they are too injured or disabled to survive in the wild and they know how to care for them. This one belongs in the wild.

[Mel1959]

I tend to agree with seahorse. If a squirrel is stressed you need to do whatever is necessary to reduce the stress. This is not the squirrel that you have in a small cage with another squirrel, is it? If it is you should remove it from the other cage and allow it time to decompress and adjust to its new surroundings. She needs to be in a quiet atmosphere till she can adjust. Squirrels have the ability to “check out” and die when they are overly stressed or traumatized. Please give her the necessary time to adapt to you and her new surroundings.

[Rock Monkey]

Also what is this GFCI ? xD

A GFCI is a type of electrical outlet. The letters stand for Ground Fault Circuit Interrupt. If a device plugged into a GFCI outlet experiences a ground fault, meaning the electricity is escaping the closed system, then the outlet immediately cuts the power. These outlets have a Test and a Reset button. The purpose of a GFCI is to prevent someone from getting shocked.

In the United States these type of outlets are usually found in kitchens and bathrooms and other damp locations. I suspect that there is something similar in Greece. You may be able to find a power strip that has a GFCI built in.

I don't know what the rules are regarding doing electrical work in the place you live. The breaker for the circuit would need to be turned off in order for it to be worked on safely.

That info should help you get started.

[mel_la_fee]

Poor Sally is definitely stressed, but I do think it's in part because of losing her partner. I don't like the idea that they're sold in pet stores, but it obviously happens and it sounds to me like you want to learn about them and take care of them. I'm glad you found our board! IMO, the fault lies with the pet shop that obviously didn't learn enough about these animals to feed them correctly (so now you have to make up for the deficit)...and then they didn't even offer to sell them cheaper as a pair despite the fact that they are usually sold that way. I don't know much about caucasian squirrels but I assume they are raised and shipped to the pet stores in pairs for a reason and the least the store owner could do is offer a discount.

In any case, the blocks you made look good and treating for MBD, at least until you know she's well and especially right now while she's not eating, is definitely a good idea. Unfortunately, if she is pregnant, the pregnancy is likely adding bodily stress and there's a good chance it won't end well if she doesn't start getting valuable nutrition soon.

If she is not comfortable in her nesting box try adding soft material like cotton strips from a t-shirt to the box and moving the nesting box to the right corner where she prefers to hang out. Also add cover to part of the front of the box:

316554

I read that caucasian squirrels typically nest lower than other tree squirrels, including in tree roots and stumps sometimes, so I don't think it needs to be crazy high but if you have a higher table or can get the cage lifted higher, it may help a little. I would place a block in the nesting box with her and if it gets quiet and she feels safe, she may nibble on the block you placed in her nesting box. I've noticed that older wilds that are injured will never eat in front of me, but they will nibble at food if they don't have to venture very far to get it.

Leaving the cage at least partially covered is also a good idea. Ideally the shadow will fall over the nesting box, with some sunlight coming in to the other side, so that she can venture into the light, but has a dark safe space to retreat to.

She absolutely adorable BTW! It's amazing to me that a squirrel from a pet store would let you hold them like that. Have you tried offering a piece of avocado yet? They're too high in fat to feed regularly, but I think it would be safe to try in her case. Or maybe there's another fruit that's native to her habitat? I wouldn't add nuts or seeds but something with natural sugars would be fine to try.

I really hope everything works out. She's an absolute doll :Love_Icon

[Napped]

I tend to agree with seahorse. If a squirrel is stressed you need to do whatever is necessary to reduce the stress. This is not the squirrel that you have in a small cage with another squirrel, is it? If it is you should remove it from the other cage and allow it time to decompress and adjust to its new surroundings. She needs to be in a quiet atmosphere till she can adjust. Squirrels have the ability to “check out” and die when they are overly stressed or traumatized. Please give her the necessary time to adapt to you and her new surroundings.

No she is alone in her own cage not coming in even close with the littles i have her a nest too but she doesnt go in at all..if i fill that cage with cloth it will stink from the pee and i dont think its healthy for her ether

[seahorse]

No she is alone in her own cage not coming in even close with the littles i have her a nest too but she doesnt go in at all..if i fill that cage with cloth it will stink from the pee and i dont think its healthy for her ether

She NEEDS something soft. All you have to do is wash the blankets/fleece/clothing every other day. Or you don't have to completely cover the floor of the cage but at least half of it. She will learn not to urinate on the cloth very quickly. That cage looks so harsh and cold. The box with cloth in it is a very good idea as well.

[Napped]

Update
I have bought i bigger nest and put some soft staff so she can be more warm
Your thoughts?
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[Rock Monkey]

Update
I have bought i bigger nest and put some soft staff so she can be more warm
Your thoughts?
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That should help.

Generally, they don't poop and pee where they live, but she might make an exception if she is still feeling very shy. In the long run you shouldn't have to work to hard to keep the fabrics clean.

Regarding her water bowl. I would put less water in it. Not more than 1 cm deep, maybe less. Given the depth of her water bowl her head will be tilted downward when she drinks. What you don't want is for her nose to go underwater when she drinks because this can cause her aspirate, meaning swallowing water into her lungs. (This can be a fatal problem.) So, if the water in the bowl is shallow, this is much less likely to happen.

Her water should be changed everyday to prevent bacteria growing. It should be washed and rinsed in hot water periodically. Generally, wild animals prefer to drink from moving water. But that isn't an option, but just trying to say they can be picky about water too. You might want to add a quality water bottle as well. (It shouldn't be made of plastic given a squirrel's nature to chew on things.)

[seahorse]

Update
I have bought i bigger nest and put some soft staff so she can be more warm
Your thoughts?
316558

That is somewhat better. I still think you should put some loose cloth (old t shirt pieces, fleece, blanket pieces) so she can burrow. They love to burrow, it makes them feel safe. You should also do everything Rock Monkey said. She will need a larger cage, this is still too small for a squirrel but will do. Can you have someone build a larger one with wood and screen? They have a hard time climbing these vertically spaced metal cages, horizontally spaced metal would be better but wood and screen would be best like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJxgAL6SFM She will need some branches and toys, a swinging something to play with, it's extremely important that they have A LOT of stimulation. Thank you for continuing to try to make everything better for her.

[Napped]

That is somewhat better. I still think you should put some loose cloth (old t shirt pieces, fleece, blanket pieces) so she can burrow. They love to burrow, it makes them feel safe. You should also do everything Rock Monkey said. She will need a larger cage, this is still too small for a squirrel but will do. Can you have someone build a larger one with wood and screen? They have a hard time climbing these vertically spaced metal cages, horizontally spaced metal would be better but wood and screen would be best like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJxgAL6SFM She will need some branches and toys, a swinging something to play with, it's extremely important that they have A LOT of stimulation. Thank you for continuing to try to make everything better for her.
I am trying and will try to do everything she needs step by step cuz some stuff cost too and i am not in the best economic time right now

[Napped]

Who are the save branches for squirrels to chew?

[seahorse]

I am trying and will try to do everything she needs step by step cuz some stuff cost too and i am not in the best economic time right now I hate to say this but squirrels are very expensive to care for and they sometimes have health issues that need to get taken care of by a veterinarian which can run into thousands of dollars. They may need treatments such as antibiotics for urinary tract infections and other issues, they may need x rays, they may need bloodwork. A person who doesn't have money to meet the basic needs of a squirrel should not have one, I'm sorry but it's true. A cat or dog would have been much easier and much cheaper.

About the safe branches: Always provide clean young branches untreated by pestisides. The following trees are safe for squirrels: acorn, apple, aspen, birch, bottlebrush, cherry, dogwood, filbert, fruit, hickory, locust, magnolia, maple, mulberry, oak, orange, pine, pear, pecan, pine, poplar, portulaca, raintree, spruce, torenia, and walnut.

[Napped]

I hate to say this but squirrels are very expensive to care for and they sometimes have health issues that need to get taken care of by a veterinarian which can run into thousands of dollars. They may need treatments such as antibiotics for urinary tract infections and other issues, they may need x rays, they may need bloodwork. A person who doesn't have money to meet the basic needs of a squirrel should not have one, I'm sorry but it's true. A cat or dog would have been much easier and much cheaper.

Ok man relax a dog and a cat can also have health issues and cost many money to take care off what are you trying to say? These squirrels i have was sold in pet store i didnt catch them or take them from their nest to make them my pets,i try to give a better life than that miserable life they have in pet shops that they give them dog cookies and cookies with praline chocolate to eat and they slow dieing there

[Charley Chuckles]

I can tell you are very caring and are doing your best for these rescues.
I hate the fact they sell squirrels in pet stores and I thank you for taking them out of there.

[Charley Chuckles]

BTW have you found any branches for her to chew?
I give mine branches daily.
I also use deer antler, sterilized dog bone you can get in pet shops just not the ones filled with peanut butter.
They need to chew to keep teeth trimmed and it keeps them busy I'm sure it helps with stress too.

[Napped]

BTW have you found any branches for her to chew?
I give mine branches daily.
I also use deer antler, sterilized dog bone you can get in pet shops just not the ones filled with peanut butter.
They need to chew to keep teeth trimmed and it keeps them busy I'm sure it helps with stress too.
The branches have yo be dry or green is good too?

[Mel1959]

Green is fine as long as they are from a safe tree. I’m not sure what types of trees you have there, but please be sure they aren’t toxic.

[Napped]

Green is fine as long as they are from a safe tree. I’m not sure what types of trees you have there, but please be sure they aren’t toxic.

Yeah am not gonna grap any branch i see xD
Seahorse gave me a list of safe trees that i can give

[Charley Chuckles]

Yes green, that's why in change mine out so often as the leaves dry out., however the branches I leave since they can chew on them.. I say they make a tooth pick factory out of them 😂
Just do what you can, I have no idea what kind of trees you have we have oak here

[Napped]

Yes green, that's why in change mine out so often as the leaves dry out., however the branches I leave since they can chew on them.. I say they make a tooth pick factory out of them 😂
Just do what you can, I have no idea what kind of trees you have we have oak here

We have plenty locusts here and pines

[seahorse]

Ok man relax a dog and a cat can also have health issues and cost many money to take care off what are you trying to say? These squirrels i have was sold in pet store i didnt catch them or take them from their nest to make them my pets,i try to give a better life than that miserable life they have in pet shops that they give them dog cookies and cookies with praline chocolate to eat and they slow dieing there

I wasn't trying to put you down. I did say I appreciate you trying to care for her in a previous post. I also did say that I don't like that they are being sold in pet stores. I admire the fact that you really are trying. I just made a suggestion in case you felt you were in over your head. Yes, cats and dogs can be expensive as well but they are easier to care for and less likely to have issues if they're not getting the proper nutrition and environment unlike a squirrel. Exotic animals are more expensive to care for. There are also not many places that care for them. My first priority is the squirrel, I felt so bad for her cowering in the corner, I cried for her...I cry for creatures if I see them afraid, sad or hurt...I'm just extremely sensitive to them, they are the most important things in the world to me. I apologize if I offended you, truly.

[Napped]

I wasn't trying to put you down. I did say I appreciate you trying to care for her in a previous post. I also did say that I don't like that they are being sold in pet stores. I admire the fact that you really are trying. I just made a suggestion in case you felt you were in over your head. Yes, cats and dogs can be expensive as well but they are easier to care for and less likely to have issues if they're not getting the proper nutrition and environment unlike a squirrel. Exotic animals are more expensive to care for. There are also not many places that care for them. My first priority is the squirrel, I felt so bad for her cowering in the corner, I cried for her...I cry for creatures if I see them afraid, sad or hurt...I'm just extremely sensitive to them, they are the most important things in the world to me. I apologize if I offended you, truly.
Nah its okey by me,your suggest and advises are very welcome! :D

[Napped]

Is it normal for the low jaw teeths to split a little???

[Rock Monkey]

Is it normal for the low jaw teeths to split a little???

A picture would be very helpful. We have members that have looked into the mouths of many squirrels.

The proper alight of teeth is the most critical thing. Unhappy squirrels sometimes chew on their cage which can cause serious problems.

[Napped]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD1MdxitNJw
What i say is that they are connected the one monent the other they have a mm gap
Are they are too big and need to trim?

[seahorse]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD1MdxitNJw
What i say is that they are connected the one monent the other they have a mm gap
Are they are too big and need to trim?

They seem normal to me but teeth are one thing I'm not 100% sure about.
https://www.google.com/search?q=picture+of+normal+squirrel+teeth&client=safari&channel=mac_bm&sxsrf=ALeKk01zYzGNLannULWc51TuaOjCC0v0CQ:160167996 8820&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=5e5W1h-NR0bq8M%252C3p-NezggymmgrM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSuUOmTTFI127HJ5TPT_76XQd0UxA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwib9tbsgpfsAhUGT6wKHYRmDREQ9QF6BAgRECw#i mgrc=g2234khmrrnTUM&imgdii=nyzirLjs7j8qUM

[mel_la_fee]

Squirrel's have teeth that move a little. To us they seem loose, and obviously there's a limit to how far they can be moved apart, but the front incisors wiggling a bit to either side is normal as far as I know. Different species of squirrel may have a different morphology (evolved differently), but a change in the space between the front incisors is generally typical of most squirrels.

Oh- incisors are the front teeth. You probably knew that but I know english isn't your first language so just adding it in case I was confusing in my response. Keep up the good work :)

[stepnstone]

Is it normal for the low jaw teeths to split a little???
Perfectly normal, lower incisors are designed to move independently of each other

[Napped]

Perfectly normal, lower incisors are designed to move independently of each other

Ok thats good to hear but she still doesnt eat any solid food i have her 4 days now in calcium treatment (have gain some movement and curiosity) and when we cuddle i offer her the block but she had bite it for a millisecond only 2 times..always have her a block in the nest but always untouched...

A small video of cuddling
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5f7UD6506Y4

[Rock Monkey]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD1MdxitNJw
What i say is that they are connected the one monent the other they have a mm gap
Are they are too big and need to trim?

Are there small pieces of branches in her cage?

It is good to give them something safe to chew on. Regular use of their teeth keeps them at the appropriate length. As you probably know, their teeth are continually growing, which is necessary since they get worn down by the foods they eat.

Somewhere around there is a list of branches which it is safe for squirrels to chew. This is important because there are some branches which can be toxic to them.

Chewing is also an outlet for nervous energy for them.

[Napped]

Are there small pieces of branches in her cage?

It is good to give them something safe to chew on. Regular use of their teeth keeps them at the appropriate length. As you probably know, their teeth are continually growing, which is necessary since they get worn down by the foods they eat.

Somewhere around there is a list of branches which it is safe for squirrels to chew. This is important because there are some branches which can be toxic to them.

Chewing is also an outlet for nervous energy for them.
Ι had got locust branches but only milly chewing.. kodi never trimed his teeth all that months i have him..
Sally still not intrested too

[Napped]

Are these spasms normal on sleeping???

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MtDBpFoU9D4

[seahorse]

Are these spasms normal on sleeping???

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MtDBpFoU9D4

Yes, no worries....they twitch, they jerk and they even make noises in their sleep when they dream.

[Charley Chuckles]

Sally sleeping 😍

[Rock Monkey]

Are these spasms normal on sleeping???



Sometimes they even run in place while dreaming. Her bed looks soft and cozy.

Do you have a gram scale with which you can weigh her?

This would be very useful because this would tell you if she is loosing weight or gaining weight. It is a very useful way to monitor her health.

Especially if you are still feeding her with a syringe with the baby food, it is important to pay attention to her breathing.

When a squirrel is healthy breathing is quiet and unremarkable. If you here clicks with each breath, if breathing becomes rapid or slow, or she develops a fever or gets cold, starts mouth breathing, there may be a problem.

To be on the safe side, you should do some reading about aspiration pneumonia so that you understand that condition better. If a squirrel gets such pneumonia it can get worse very quickly.

[Napped]

We have our first solid!!
Unfortunately is not the block but a cucumber but its a progress that she finally ate something solid her own!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ytguHhiBjo
Also its a relief that she dont have a teeth issue

[Charley Chuckles]

That's GREAT 👍
Nothing wrong with cucumber, maybe she will begin eating many different veggies😀

[Napped]

Sally has coughing or sneezing after eat ot drink something i cant really say what its
Could this be pneumonia ?aspiration?

[Mel1959]

It could just be her clearing her airway. Hold her up to your ear like a phone. Do you hear a clicking sound with each breath? Do you hear congestion? Has she stopped eating? It’s hard to tell what’s going on without more info?

[Napped]

It could just be her clearing her airway. Hold her up to your ear like a phone. Do you hear a clicking sound with each breath? Do you hear congestion? Has she stopped eating? It’s hard to tell what’s going on without more info?
I dont hear clicking and she dont have much apetite

[Mel1959]

Lack of appetite is one of the symptoms of pneumonia. Has she been a robust eater in the past? Or has she always not been enthusiastic about eating? In other words, is the lack of appetite a new development?

To be on the safe side can you locate any antibiotics, human or pet, just to have on hand in case they’re needed. See what you can locate and post it here.

[Napped]

Lack of appetite is one of the symptoms of pneumonia. Has she been a robust eater in the past? Or has she always not been enthusiastic about eating? In other words, is the lack of appetite a new development?

To be on the safe side can you locate any antibiotics, human or pet, just to have on hand in case they’re needed. See what you can locate and post it here.

I probably can find cipro

[Mel1959]

Post the strength of the cipro and the weight of the squirrel.

Is this the new squirrel that hasn’t been eating all along?

[seahorse]

I dont hear clicking and she dont have much apetite

Are you giving her food items besides vegetables? Many squirrels will not eat regular rodent blocks but if you grind and mix them with other ingredients they usually will. Here is a recipe for squirrel bars:

1/2 cup ground Mazuri or other rodent blocks
1/4 cup ground oatmeal
1/2 cup coarsely ground walnuts or pecans
1/4 cup loosely ground unsalted sunflower seeds
2 Tablespoons organic coconut oil (melted)
1 Tablespoon molasses
1 Tablespoon peanut butter
1 teaspoon calcium powder (hopefully you can find this and any other unavailable ingredients online through Amazon)

Blend all ingredients adding splash of coconut or almond milk if needed to create a "cookie dough" consistency.
Roll onto parchment paper or greased (with coconut oil) baking pan to 1/8" - 1/4 " (the thinner the crunchier, my squirrels always preferred the crunchier ones)
Slice with pizza roller/slicer into 1" squares, bake at 250 degrees Fahrenheit for 45- 55 minutes (until dried out).

[seahorse]

Haven't seen a recent post from you, is everything ok?

[Napped]

Haven't seen a recent post from you, is everything ok?

Yes seahorse i had taked the male too from the petshop so they are reunited..
They eat a little of the blocks each day but not very much plus a little of veggies.. i am going to get the cipro just in case of AP cuz i think sally need it the most i hear her coughing and sneazing way more than the male..
Male is way more active and energetic but for now he is in adjustment

[seahorse]

Yes seahorse i had taked the male too from the petshop so they are reunited..
They eat a little of the blocks each day but not very much plus a little of veggies.. i am going to get the cipro just in case of AP cuz i think sally need it the most i hear her coughing and sneazing way more than the male..
Male is way more active and energetic but for now he is in adjustment

Glad to hear this, thank you for replying, I was worried. I think if Sally had AP she wouldn't be here, it's a very quick downhill situation. If you hear a clicking noise on breathing (you have to hold her close to your ear) then I would worry. I had a male squirrel who sneezed a lot and he was fine. I don't know that I've heard a squirrel "cough" though, can you post a video? Yes, most squirrels are not happy with blocks, if you can find the ingredients for the recipe I sent they will love those squirrel bars....I guarantee! It's very important for them to eat blocks (more than vegetables) in some form or fashion. I'm very happy they are reunited!

[Mel1959]

Can you post a picture of Sally and her male friend? I’d love to see them.

It makes me happy that they’re reunited. That should alleviate some stress.

[Rock Monkey]

Yes, most squirrels are not happy with blocks, if you can find the ingredients for the recipe I sent they will love those squirrel bars....I guarantee! It's very important for them to eat blocks (more than vegetables) in some form or fashion. !

He baked some homemade block since what we can buy isn't available in Greece, but Sally hasn't shown much interest in it.

[Napped]

Can you post a picture of Sally and her male friend? I’d love to see them.

It makes me happy that they’re reunited. That should alleviate some stress.
Here you are guys

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[Charley Chuckles]

Both together 😍

[seahorse]

He baked some homemade block since what we can buy isn't available in Greece, but Sally hasn't shown much interest in it. Hmmm.... squirrels can be picky, they can also still be afraid or uncomfortable in their situation. Maybe try the recipe I sent or look for a different one online. Also can you throw in some branches for them to climb on and a couple of toys (they like hanging things), a tiny stuffed animal on a shoestring maybe, a soft furry ball. They need stimulation or they will not thrive. Just don't give up, keep trying things until something works. Is their room quiet? Do you have an old t shirt or two you can throw in that corner that they're in so they can burrow?

[Mel1959]

Tree limbs are a definite must. Squirrels live in the trees so you want to replicate their normal habitat as much as possible. You can secure the tree limbs to the cage with screws and washers. Mounting the nest box off the floor or providing a hanging cube would also be nice for them.

Hanging fleece cubes can be found on Amazon or other online places. Here’s a picture of a cube.
https://www.amazon.com/Exotic-Nutrition-Cozy-Cube-Cheetah/dp/B071225MXC/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=Hanging+rodent+cube&qid=1602365886&sr=8-10

[Charley Chuckles]

Just checking on Sally and friend.
Hope things are going well🤗

[Napped]

So i have manage to get this cipro its ok to use?
Can anyone help with the dose if its ok to use?
I will also provide sallys weight later cuz i am in work now
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[seahorse]

So i have manage to get this cipro its ok to use?
Can anyone help with the dose if its ok to use?
I will also provide sallys weight later cuz i am in work now
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Are you wanting to give this to Sally because you think she has AP from a few days ago? If she did she would have gone down quickly and probably not survived by now. Please be sure she has AP before you give any cipro to her. I will defer to the more experienced rehabbers on this. I found this "If formula comes out baby's nose, he may have inhaled some, causing aspiration pneumonia. Symptoms are loss of appetite, lethargy, and a clicking noise when the baby breathes. Hold the baby's chest to your ear and listen carefully. The clicking is with each breath, in and out." I also found this on squirrel board "If you hear a 'pfft' or a click every once in awhile, it is normal squirrel noises. If you hear regular clicking (does not have to be every breath but fairly regular) then he needs Cipro ASAP. This can kill a baby in 36 hours." I found this video on you tube (clicking sound), if she's not doing this she most likely doesn't have AP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtqWQKTOeRI

[Napped]

Are you wanting to give this to Sally because you think she has AP from a few days ago? If she did she would have gone down quickly and probably not survived by now. Please be sure she has AP before you give any cipro to her. I will defer to the more experienced rehabbers on this. I found this "If formula comes out baby's nose, he may have inhaled some, causing aspiration pneumonia. Symptoms are loss of appetite, lethargy, and a clicking noise when the baby breathes. Hold the baby's chest to your ear and listen carefully. The clicking is with each breath, in and out." I also found this on squirrel board "If you hear a 'pfft' or a click every once in awhile, it is normal squirrel noises. If you hear regular clicking (does not have to be every breath but fairly regular) then he needs Cipro ASAP. This can kill a baby in 36 hours." I found this video on you tube (clicking sound), if she's not doing this she most likely doesn't have AP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtqWQKTOeRI

So far i have checked it like 4 times (take sally and put her chest in my ear) and only thing i can hear is her heart bit and no clicking at all..the reason i want to give her antibiotics is her lethargic behavior..she has started drinking water her own from the dish but her apetite for food is awful

[seahorse]

So far i have checked it like 4 times (take sally and put her chest in my ear) and only thing i can hear is her heart bit and no clicking at all..the reason i want to give her antibiotics is her lethargic behavior..she has started drinking water her own from the dish but her apetite for food is awful

I don't think it's a good idea to give cipro if she's not sick. As I said before I will defer to the experts on this. You may want to send a message toone of the experts that responded to you earlier about the cipro, I don't know that they will keep coming back to this thread. What exactly are you offering her for food?

[seahorse]

I don't think it's a good idea to give cipro if she's not sick. As I said before I will defer to the experts on this. You may want to send a message toone of the experts that responded to you earlier about the cipro, I don't know that they will keep coming back to this thread. What exactly are you offering her for food?

It's good that she's drinking water, that shows that she has some will to live and also, she will not get dehydrated. Can you get a water bottle made of glass from the pet store? She may need to be have bloodworm done and be checked over by a veterinarian to make sure she doesn't have anything wrong with her mouth or teeth or any other underlying issue. (I read somewhere about a rare disease where they can't eat because it hurts them and their mouth stays shut but I can't remember where I read it....I'll look for it). Is she eating ANYTHING at all? Is she losing weight? You should weigh her daily on a gram scale until she is doing better.

[seahorse]

It's good that she's drinking water, that shows that she has some will to live and also, she will not get dehydrated. Can you get a water bottle made of glass from the pet store? She may need to be have bloodworm done and be checked over by a veterinarian to make sure she doesn't have anything wrong with her mouth or teeth or any other underlying issue. (I read somewhere about a rare disease where they can't eat because it hurts them and their mouth stays shut but I can't remember where I read it....I'll look for it). Is she eating ANYTHING at all? Is she losing weight? You should weigh her daily on a gram scale until she is doing better.
I meant bloodwork not bloodworm.
I also want to emphasize the 5 most important things a (house) squirrel needs to thrive:
1) A variety of healthy food and treats that they love (such as nuts in shells) throughout the day, clean fresh water daily
2) A quiet and safe environment, no loud or startling noises, no constant handling when they are afraid, no dangerous things to chew on such as cables, sharp objects, poisonous objects
3) An enriching and comfortable environment with lots of stimulation, toys and things to play with, safe things (such as wood) to chew on, limbs to climb, lots of soft cloth pieces to burrow and sleep with
4) Space....they need to run and jump and leap to keep their muscles strong and to satisfy their natural instincts
5) Love and reassurance (but not forced)

[Napped]

My thoughts about the antibiotic was that she probably can have any type of bacteria from all that animals that was in the pet shop and not only for the AP or Ulti
I am still wait for any expert to answer if its ok to give her antibiotic even if she have not any symptoms of AP and could make her feel better like if she have any issue with PH in her stomach or any other issue thats not visible

[Napped]

Also mealworms are ok for treats?

[seahorse]

Also mealworms are ok for treats?
yes, they like them. Are you giving them nuts in shells? They especially need them for their teeth....almonds, walnuts, pecans and hazelnuts but NO brazil nuts!

[seahorse]

My thoughts about the antibiotic was that she probably can have any type of bacteria from all that animals that was in the pet shop and not only for the AP or Ulti
I am still wait for any expert to answer if its ok to give her antibiotic even if she have not any symptoms of AP and could make her feel better like if she have any issue with PH in her stomach or any other issue thats not visible

you can also (for stomach health) give her a probiotic....they should sell it at the pet store or you can order it on line....it's called Bene-bac.

[Rock Monkey]

you can also (for stomach health) give her a probiotic....they should sell it at the pet store or you can order it on line....it's called Bene-bac.

Or he could just give her some plain, whole milk Greek yogurt, which also be supplying probiotic, as well as fat and calcium.

[Napped]

sally weights 200 - 205 grams
her belly has full debloated from when i first got her and i think that she pee too much like 5-6 times a day..is that a normal amount?

[seahorse]

sally weights 200 - 205 grams
her belly has full debloated from when i first got her and i think that she pee too much like 5-6 times a day..is that a normal amount?

I'm glad she is not bloated anymore and glad you are able to weigh her. How old is she again? If she's full grown she should weigh between 250 to 410 g. She is not peeing too much, squirrels eliminate multiple times throughout the day.

[Napped]

I'm glad she is not bloated anymore and glad you are able to weigh her. How old is she again? If she's full grown she should weigh between 250 to 410 g. She is not peeing too much, squirrels eliminate multiple times throughout the day.

i cant tell for sure what her age is but i think her and konan(male) are between 1-2 years old cuz i have seen them at least 5-6 months in pet store and when i went to get konan i ask if they get them as babes if they are form the same birth and he told me that they came together(dont know if they are from same birth)and was a little more young and small that they are now so i cant be accurate very much on this..he could possible lied to me ofc to avoid any complainment from me

[Rock Monkey]

sally weights 200 - 205 grams
and i think that she pee too much like 5-6 times a day..is that a normal amount?

Squirrels pee to mark their territory, as well as the usual reasons. So, you are the caretaker of four squirrels, you are going to have to deal with some pee.

Does the pee smell strongly? For a healthy squirrel it doesn't smell like much much.

You should weigh her every day and keep a log to see if the weight is going up or down.

Any improvement in her appetite?

Is she still sneezing?

Did the pet store tell you whether she was still growing or that she was an adult?

[Napped]

Squirrels pee to mark their territory, as well as the usual reasons. So, you are the caretaker of four squirrels, you are going to have to deal with some pee.

Does the pee smell strongly? For a healthy squirrel it doesn't smell like much much.

You should weigh her every day and keep a log to see if the weight is going up or down.

Any improvement in her appetite?

Is she still sneezing?

Did the pet store tell you whether she was still growing or that she was an adult?
firsts days pee smell very much but now its not the same
i will weigh her daily from now until i am sure she is ok and eating normaly yesterday i bought same mealworms and she ate 2 as i give them to her
still doesnt eat much of the block but drinking water normally i think
as for the petstore i really dont know what to believe from them as i see they dont care much for the animals last time i went to get konan i couldnt believe that they put him DOG biscuits and biscuits with CHOCOLATE from supermarket for food...
they really dont have a clue how to take care of them right now they have 2 indian palm that they are in extrme small cage 1 by 1 and they are always freaked out and 2 white palms that seems better and more calmed but i really dont know what to think...

[Rock Monkey]

Is she still sneezing?

Have you tried giving her avocado or plain, whole milk Greek Yogurt?

[seahorse]

i cant tell for sure what her age is but i think her and konan(male) are between 1-2 years old cuz i have seen them at least 5-6 months in pet store and when i went to get konan i ask if they get them as babes if they are form the same birth and he told me that they came together(dont know if they are from same birth)and was a little more young and small that they are now so i cant be accurate very much on this..he could possible lied to me ofc to avoid any complainment from me

Oh gosh, so they are older. They definitely should weigh more. I also suspect that she is acting the way she is because she was not cared for properly over a period of months. Only time will tell if she recovers to become more comfortable. Just please follow those 5 things I stated in a previous post and don't give up. Poor baby....so for most of her life she hasn't been loved or cared for, I'm so thankful you have her now.

[Napped]

Is she still sneezing?

Have you tried giving her avocado or plain, whole milk Greek Yogurt?
She do that(whatever is that)every day but not in like suspisious way i just got curious cuz the other 3 never do something like this i will tey to record it cuz its a couple of secs to be more accurate

[Napped]

Oh gosh, so they are older. They definitely should weigh more. I also suspect that she is acting the way she is because she was not cared for properly over a period of months. Only time will tell if she recovers to become more comfortable. Just please follow those 5 things I stated in a previous post and don't give up. Poor baby....so for most of her life she hasn't been loved or cared for, I'm so thankful you have her now.
Yeah they dont care at all..i am trying my best hooefully konan isnt in the same stage i have him today an extra time off cage he explore the room for a while but he is more scared than sally. I take sally to my bed every morning when i wake up to cuddle and she stays for a while(like 15-20 min) but then she want to go in her nest and i let go

[Napped]

Soooo i have a question
Does anybody in history of rehabing and caring has used cannabis(with THC)/CDB(no TCH in) oil for like pain reliefs,anxiety relief, appetite grown in squirrels????

[Mel1959]

Yes, folks have successfully used it, but I have not, so I couldn’t tell you what to get or how to dose.

I think you need to start a new thread with a title like “CBD for squirrels” so folks that are familiar with its use can help you.

[Charley Chuckles]

I actually have a SQUIRREL who is 7 years old, she has seizures. She has been on Phenobarbital most of her life.
Knowing the damage that drug can do to her body I chose to slowly ween her off the Phenobarbital by adding CBD OIL DROPS. The CBD oil I use contains a small amount of THC. They actually make one for dogs, but I've been told it's the same as for humans, just the dose is different.
I've SLOWLY cut the Phenobarbital back and added the CBD oil drops. I put 2 small drops on a pecan and let it soak in for awhile then give her the nut.
My goal is to possibly get her completely off the Phenobarbital.
She is more active as I'm sure that RX was making her somewhat drugged out.
She has not had any seizures in over a year.
She has been on the CBD oil for over a year.
I do see the calming effect it has without being drugged. I wouldn't hesitate to suggest it in small doses and make sure it's from a very reliable source so it is natural not synthetic 👍

[Napped]

I actually have a SQUIRREL who is 7 years old, she has seizures. She has been on Phenobarbital most of her life.
Knowing the damage that drug can do to her body I chose to slowly ween her off the Phenobarbital by adding CBD OIL DROPS. The CBD oil I use contains a small amount of THC. They actually make one for dogs, but I've been told it's the same as for humans, just the dose is different.
I've SLOWLY cut the Phenobarbital back and added the CBD oil drops. I put 2 small drops on a pecan and let it soak in for awhile then give her the nut.
My goal is to possibly get her completely off the Phenobarbital.
She is more active as I'm sure that RX was making her somewhat drugged out.
She has not had any seizures in over a year.
She has been on the CBD oil for over a year.
I do see the calming effect it has without being drugged. I wouldn't hesitate to suggest it in small doses and make sure it's from a very reliable source so it is natural not synthetic ��
Thank you for replying
What %comprehensiveness of cbd has that one you use?
I can find only cbd oil and not thc included of 5% and 10% comprehensiveness
Guys in shop told me that ppl who use it for dogs and cats use 5%
I can find 5%
Also what is the dosage you have him?
Did you dilute it?

[Napped]

Guys i think she losing weight..
Yesterday scale goes to 200-205
Today 196-200...

[Rock Monkey]

Guys i think she losing weight..
Yesterday scale goes to 200-205
Today 196-200...

What food is she eating? Are these things she picks up and eats or feeding her with a syringe?

Also, what foods have you tried to give that she has refused to eat?

Have you tried avocado?

Have you tried plain, whole milk yogurt?

How about baby food?

I am wondering if she is sick with some worm or infection. I think the antibiotics may be worth exploring and would like to hear what the senior members think. These issues (lack of appetite) have been going on for some time and suggest that something other than fear is inhibiting appetite.

[Napped]

What food is she eating? Are these things she picks up and eats or feeding her with a syringe?

Also, what foods have you tried to give that she has refused to eat?

Have you tried avocado?

Have you tried plain, whole milk yogurt?

How about baby food?

I am wondering if she is sick with some worm or infection. I think the antibiotics may be worth exploring and would like to hear what the senior members think. These issues (lack of appetite) have been going on for some time and suggest that something other than fear is inhibiting appetite.
I give them both homemade blocks from this recipe they eat some but very little
http://squirrelrefuge.org/squirrelblock.html
Today i am gonna buy avocado to try
Yogurt and milk doesnt work also from a stage and later she refuse to take anything from syringe (baby food and calcium)
I also want to try the goats milk formula as i cant get FV
Until now only cucumber works but when i sparkling it with calcium the dont touch it
Now for the antibotic(cipro that i have) i am wating from some more expert to tell me so..
I will try boo balls too

[Rock Monkey]

I give them both homemade blocks from this recipe they eat some but very little
http://squirrelrefuge.org/squirrelblock.html
Today i am gonna buy avocado to try
Yogurt and milk doesnt work also from a stage and later she refuse to take anything from syringe (baby food and calcium)
I also want to try the goats milk formula as i cant get FV
Until now only cucumber works but when i sparkling it with calcium the dont touch it
Now for the antibotic(cipro that i have) i am wating from some more expert to tell me so..
I will try boo balls too

Unfortunately, the cucumber is mostly water, very few calories.

Avocado has lots of good fat, lots of calories.

If she likes the avocado you mix the calcium into it, just putting a little so it doesn't alter the taste too much. I would taste it yourself to be sure it tastes okay. First give the avocado without calcium and if she eats that then maybe subsequently, out of view, try adding the calcium.

Also, try some winter squash. Try adding some honey so see if that increases interest. I have added a little bit of cinnamon too.

I still think hunger should be leading her to eat. I think something else may be wrong.

[Charley Chuckles]

Thank you for replying
What %comprehensiveness of cbd has that one you use?
I can find only cbd oil and not thc included of 5% and 10% comprehensiveness
Guys in shop told me that ppl who use it for dogs and cats use 5%
I can find 5%
Also what is the dosage you have him?
Did you dilute it?

I'm sure that would be fine.
I started her without the added THC, I use a TINY DROP , like the size of a pin head, from the dropper. So small hard to measure. I'm sure I could give more but it's working so don't feel I need to change.
I'll get the specifics from the bottle later, sorry I have to head out door😉

[Napped]

Unfortunately, the cucumber is mostly water, very few calories.

Avocado has lots of good fat, lots of calories.

If she likes the avocado you mix the calcium into it, just putting a little so it doesn't alter the taste too much. I would taste it yourself to be sure it tastes okay. First give the avocado without calcium and if she eats that then maybe subsequently, out of view, try adding the calcium.

Also, try some winter squash. Try adding some honey so see if that increases interest. I have added a little bit of cinnamon too.

I still think hunger should be leading her to eat. I think something else may be wrong.
And how i measure the cipro dosage?
They both havent touch avocado 2 hours now...
I also think something is wrong with sally cuz i always find her in very weird positions than konan when she is sleep or just relaxing and i am confused..

[Clare]

Hello. A few questions:

1. What is the strength of the Cipro and the weight of the squirrel.

2. Also, do you have peanut butter with you? Don't give it to the squirrel yet. I just want to know if you have peanut butter or if you can buy it now?

3. Have you ruled out malocclusion by taking a scan or x-ray.

4. Have you ruled out UTI?

[Mel1959]

Please post again the strength of the cipro and the weight in grams of your squirrel. Both are needed for dosing.

[Rock Monkey]

Hello. What is the strength of the Cipro and the weight of the squirrel.

Also, do you have peanut butter with you? Don't give it to the squirrel yet. I just want to know if you have peanut butter or of you can buy it now?

He has posted a picture of the Cipro on page 9 of this thread.

[Rock Monkey]

Please post again the strength of the cipro and the weight in grams of your squirrel. Both are needed for dosing.

He has posted multiple pictures of what medication he got on page 9 of this thread. He said that today Sally weighed 196-200, that info is given earlier this page.

[Mel1959]

He has posted multiple pictures of what medication he got on page 9 of this thread. He said that today Sally weighed 196-200, that info is given earlier this page.

Thank you. There’s a lot of different directions going on in this thread. I have reached out to an admin for help with dosing based on the strength and weight already stated.

[Mel1959]

Hello. A few questions:

1. What is the strength of the Cipro and the weight of the squirrel.

2. Also, do you have peanut butter with you? Don't give it to the squirrel yet. I just want to know if you have peanut butter or if you can buy it now?

3. Have you ruled out malocclusion by taking a scan or x-ray.

4. Have you ruled out UTI?

The weight and strength have been given.

Im not sure if the questions about malocclusion and UTI have been answered or asked. Both would be good to know, especially about the teeth. If Napped can open the mouth and look at the alignment of the teeth it would be helpful since eating is an issue.

[Rock Monkey]

If Napped can open the mouth and look at the alignment of the teeth it would be helpful since eating is an issue.

He has already posted a picture of her teeth in this thread. Page 5, Comment number 94, by Spanky. Senior members concluded that they look fine.

I don't know if UTI has been discussed. Napped has mentioned that she is peeing six times a day, he wondered if this was too often and he mentioned that initially her urine smelled funky but now smells unremarkable.

[Clare]

The weight and strength have been given.

Im not sure if the questions about malocclusion and UTI have been answered or asked. Both would be good to know, especially about the teeth. If Napped can open the mouth and look at the alignment of the teeth it would be helpful since eating is an issue.

https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?65567-Medicine-needed-in-this-case

The above link has a pic of the squirrel's teeth. They seem to be alright visually. But what I'm thinking of is, a malocclusion can occur due to cage chewing as well and it won't be seen even if the front 4 teeth are perfectly aligned which is why a scan is suggested.

[Clare]

He has already posted a picture of her teeth in this thread. Senior members concluded that they look fine.

I don't know if UTI has been discussed. Napped has mentioned that she is peeing six times a day, he wondered if this was too often and he mentioned that initially her urine smelled funky but now smell unremarkable.

Exactly. In the following thread, a few symptoms of UTI are mentioned:
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?65567-Medicine-needed-in-this-case

From what Napped has posted here, the squirrel seems to have had many of those symptoms of UTI. So maybe she can be treated for that as well along with Cipro and Calcium. Waiting for Mel or any other experts opinion.

[Rock Monkey]

https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?65567-Medicine-needed-in-this-case

The above link has a pic of the squirrel's teeth. They seem to be alright visually. But what I'm thinking of is, a malocclusion can occur due to cage chewing as well and it won't be seen even if the front 4 teeth are perfectly aligned which is why a scan is suggested.

It is a mystery as to what is going on. There could be parasites in her gut. She has eaten a cucumber and he has force fed her some baby food and goats milk, or something, however the sum total impression is that there are very few calories going in and that can only go on for so long.

He has never reported cage chewing, but who knows what occurred at the pet store. The store doesn't seem to care much about the proper diet for a squirrel.

[Mel1959]

I really appreciate Rock Monkey’s and Clare’s input here. :hug As I said, thIs thread has been all over the place and frankly it’s been hard to follow. :shakehead

A UTI is a definite possibility, but I’m not sure that would completely explain the lack of wanting to eat.

We in the U.S. are at a disadvantage because we don’t know what resources (vets, xrays, etc) are available in places like India.

If a vet is an option for xrays or other diagnostics that’s always our first choice. This board was created for those folks that don’t have that ability.

There would be no harm in trying an antibiotic to see how, or if, it helps. The worst side effect from the antibiotic is gastrointestinal issues, so some type of probiotic would be recommended.

As I said in an earlier post, I have reached out to an admin for dosing.

[stepnstone]

Dosing for Cipro will be sent to your private messages. ~ thanks Mel

[Napped]

Hey guys thanks a lot all of you for caring but with all that post i am a little lost and my english is not very good i will try to give as more info i can in this

Then i first got sally she was very bloated to the point i thought she was pregnant and just put her in the cage in the first days to calm
Fisrt days didnt eat and drink anything and some days later she pie the first very very smelly pee,after that she start to pee time by time more offer and also i didnt found many poops
I was worry for dehydration and starving and start guve her home made pedialyte(water honey salt)
after ther i start give her baby food and calcium with syringe and thought that might with the teeth are wrong i have a pic somewhere in the topic i dont know why the video from youtube was removed...
She started to deflate but now i can the bones of her chest i change them the blocks every morning to be fresh and water also(she drink from her own now from bowl in cage)
When she pee she climb to the front of the cage and pee all over the floor but i dont know if his is normal(my hymalaians pee standing so this is also a alert for me)
Other food i try are
Peanut butter(seems to dislike it )
Orange(gave her calcium with orange juice)
Watermellon(dislike)
Avocado(didnt touched)
Block with organic coconut oil drop on(no interest)
Cucumber(first solid food i see her eat as i bring it to her)
I am really not sure what medical issues she can have and i dont have vets here that take on squirrels to take blood test or x rays
The things a want to try now are
Antibiotics or any other medicine seems to feet in for appetite,lethargic,pain,stress
She is not paralyzed she move all feets and walk and jump but the ways i find her laying sometimes worry me so much that i think that something happened to her and i check it to see if she is good and can stand move all feets etc.
I didnt she her have any seizure all this time
I didnt hear her yell,cry,roar or make any noise then pet her lift her or even squise her genlty to check spots or when she walk run jump

[Mel1959]

All good info, thank you. Access your private messages under the “notifications” at the top of the page and your private message will be there with dosing for the cipro.

Thank you, Step.

PM with dosing has been sent......

[stepnstone]

You mentioned your using a 2cc syringe, if the picture
does not resemble what you have let me know.

316686

[Rock Monkey]

When she pee she climb to the front of the cage and pee all over the floor but i dont know if his is normal(my hymalaians pee standing so this is also a alert for me)


That is normal, she wouldn't be the first squirrel to pee out of the cage. This is actually a small, good sign. She is trying not to pee where she lives, I believe for both reasons of hygiene and making the location of the nest less obvious to predators.

[Rock Monkey]

Have you tried giving her local pine cones?

At this point, in my opinion, with ribs showing, I would willing to give her a raw nut (no salt, no sugar, no spices, no roasting) just to get some calories in her. Almonds have the best ratio calcium to potassium. At this rate she will starve and her organs shut down before MBD gets her. The idea would be that eating a nut or piece of a nut should jump start her appetite for other foods.

Keep trying things until she eats something. She needs to get some calories as soon as possible.

[Rock Monkey]

There would be no harm in trying an antibiotic to see how, or if, it helps. The worst side effect from the antibiotic is gastrointestinal issues, so some type of probiotic would be recommended.



Napped, yogurt is going to be your best, readily available source of probiotic.

[Napped]

Ι have start giving her the antibiotic from today and also she ate some of avocado and some of the block atfer second dose of antibiotic i will wieght her

[Rock Monkey]

Ι have start giving her the antibiotic from today and also she ate some of avocado and some of the block atfer second dose of antibiotic i will wieght her

That is awesome news!!! :w00t

I am hoping that once she starts eating that will get her digestion going, spurring more hunger.

(I am assuming you know this, but I am just saying it to be certain, feed her the ripe avocado, they taste the best. Here in the stores what they sell usually won't be ripe for several days and sometimes I have a very disappointed squirrel when I forget to have an avocado ripening as I work through the one I am currently feeding her.)

With the antibiotics just be sure to follow the dosing directions carefully and be sure to give the full recommended dose over the number of days specified. This way you will sure to fully get rid of/eliminate what is bothering her.

[Rock Monkey]

Her poop may become a little soft because of the antibiotic which is why it is recommend to also feed her some yogurt to restore good, necessary bacteria to her digestive system.

[Napped]

Her poop may become a little soft because of the antibiotic which is why it is recommend to also feed her some yogurt to restore good, necessary bacteria to her digestive system.

I will give her yogurt too for the probiotics
Just weight her and she is 190gr

[Mel1959]

That is awesome news!!! :w00t

I am hoping that once she starts eating that will get her digestion going, spurring more hunger.

(I am assuming you know this, but I am just saying it to be certain, feed her the ripe avocado, they taste the best. Here in the stores what they sell usually won't be ripe for several days and sometimes I have a very disappointed squirrel when I forget to have an avocado ripening as I work through the one I am currently feeding her.)

With the antibiotics just be sure to follow the dosing directions carefully and be sure to give the full recommended dose over the number of days specified. This way you will sure to fully get rid of/eliminate what is bothering her.

Please be sure there is no skin or pit (seed) on the avocado.

[Napped]

I think that i hear clicking today from sally and i think that one of her nostril is closed from boogers can it be just cold or effect of antibiotic that i start giving her???

https://ibb.co/VS5FFgV

[Rock Monkey]

I think that i hear clicking today from sally and i think that one of her nostril is closed from boogers can it be just cold or effect of antibiotic that i start giving her???


Is the clicking present all of the time? Is she open mouth breathing?

Squirrels make a ticking sound with their pallets when they purr, but this is usually very brief, lasting fewer than 10 seconds.

The boogers could be something clearing from her lungs. You know the way when you are getting over a cold and you hack up green/yellow phlegm. (I don't know if squirrels do this.)

Be sure you don't aspirate her when you are giving the antibiotic. Small, O-ring syringes are preferable.

What size syringe are you using and does it have an o-ring?

Regarding the avocado, be sure you are only giving her the fruit, not the skin or the big pit in the middle. Those part contain some toxins. They are not acute toxins but the squirrel shouldn't be given that part of the fruit, as Mel1959 has already mentioned.

[Rock Monkey]

As far as the antibiotic is concerned, are you following the time schedule (frequency) that you were advised to use?

[Rock Monkey]

How is her appetite and activity level currently?

If they get aspiration pneumonia both of these will decline substantially.

Is she warmer or colder than normal?

If the clicking is occurring with each breath you want to keep her warm and upright (with her head above her chest) and I wouldn't leave her unattended if possible. Maybe put her in a shirt pocket. If there is fluid in the lungs this will keep the fluid at the bottom of the lungs so that air can still go in and out of the top of the lungs.

The antibiotic should be clearing any lung infection, not causing it, unless she aspirated when the antibiotic was administered.

[Mel1959]

You might be hearing a noise from her breathing if she’s congested. Yes, they can get respiratory infections. I do not believe the antibiotic would cause this reaction. Continue with the antibiotic for the length of time recommended....usually 7-10 days. Use a warm cloth to clear her nostrils so breathing is easier. You can also take her in a bathroom and run a hot shower to produce steam and sit in there with her.

[Napped]

Her mood has not change form the usual and i am not sure if its clicking or noise from breath out air the blocked nostril..the weather have changed rapidly from yesterday and temp has fall..i will she how she is doing for today and i will update
Also for the syringe i have a 2.5 cc to give her the antibiotic and the dose is so little that its 2 small pushes so i dont think i aspirate her

[Rock Monkey]

Also for the syringe i have a 2.5 cc to give her the antibiotic and the dose is so little that its 2 small pushes so i dont think i aspirate her

A smaller syringe would be much better. Can you get a 1 cc or 1/2 of one cc syringe? Preferably one with an o-ring.

Also, practice with the syringe with plain water by yourself, trying to get one drop to come out at a time.

[Napped]

A smaller syringe would be much better. Can you get a 1 cc or 1/2 of one cc syringe? Preferably one with an o-ring.

Also, practice with the syringe with plain water by yourself, trying to get one drop to come out at a time.

Any smaller syringe is for insuline treatment and pharmacy dosent sell smaller if tou dont have doctor paper for insuline so i cant get smaller than 2.5

She also losing weight now is 182 gr

[Rock Monkey]

Any smaller syringe is for insuline treatment and pharmacy dosent sell smaller if tou dont have doctor paper for insuline so i cant get smaller than 2.5

She also losing weight now is 182 gr

Damn on both counts!

If your syringe doesn't move smoothly you can lubricate the rubber part of the plunger with a little bit vegetable oil and see if that makes it move more smoothly. Most important, just practice with the syringe with just water trying to get just one drop to come out.

Is she eating today?

Is she pooping? And, if so, how is the consistency?

[Napped]

Damn on both counts!

If your syringe doesn't move smoothly you can lubricate the rubber part of the plunger with a little bit vegetable oil and see if that makes it move more smoothly. Most important, just practice with the syringe with just water trying to get just one drop to come out.

Is she eating today?

Is she pooping? And, if so, how is the consistency?
For pooping and eating i cant be 100% sure everyday if i dont see them in that exact moment pooping or eating coz they are 2 in the same cage..

[Rock Monkey]

For pooping and eating i cant be 100% sure everyday if i dont see them in that exact moment pooping or eating coz they are 2 in the same cage..

This is apparently what nanny (baby sitter) cameras are for. :grin3 (I am being sarcastic.) I sometimes wish I had one, for the same reason.

Well, at least somebody is eating. Her weight is dropping fast and that has me worried.

[Rock Monkey]

I would give her a small nut, with the shell removed, and see if she will eat it, making sure that he doesn't take it. Usually they will eat a nut right away, especially if they are hungry. She needs calories of any kind at this point.

[Napped]

This is apparently what nanny (baby sitter) cameras are for. :grin3 (I am being sarcastic.) I sometimes wish I had one, for the same reason.

Well, at least somebody is eating. Her weight is dropping fast and that has me worried.
Me too..
Yesterday i see her when i weak up that she was on the dish and ate avocado but when i move a little she went in the nest
That makes me think that she may eating when i am off the room

[Rock Monkey]

Me too..
Yesterday i see her when i weak up that she was on the dish and ate avocado but when i move a little she went in the nest
That makes me think that she may eating when i am off the room

I would just watch her from a distance, casually looking out of the corner of your eye, as you go about something else quietly, so as to not spook her.

They are very alert and sensitive.

[Napped]

I would just watch her from a distance, casually looking out of the corner of your eye, as you go about something else quietly, so as to not spook her.

They are very alert and sensitive.
most of the time she is in the nest so i cant see her..the if times i see her is when she get out climbing in the front of the cage pee drink water and back in its is.or when i get her out to spent time together
Konan spent more time in the cage than sally and i am 100% sure that he eats the blocks first days not much but now he gets more and i see him he has more energy and can move way better but he is a little uncomfy yet but he is starting to calm too

[Mel1959]

Be sure he is not taking all the food. Squirrels can bully other squirrels and prevent them from getting food when caged together.

Have you tried mashing up avocado and mixing it with baby food and a little formula and feeding her by syringe? It’s not ideal, but it will ensure that she is getting some food. The antibiotic may be upsetting her stomach and she still sounds very afraid. Both of these things may affect her willingness to eat.

[Rock Monkey]

How much does she weigh today?

How is her appetite today?

Is there still a discharge from her nose today?

If her nose is congested this will make it difficult for her to breath when you administer the antibiotic or try to give her food with the syringe. You need to push out the smallest amount possible and back off and allow her time to process that, swallow and take a few breaths before you try to get more into her. Observe her very carefully as you do this and you be better able to be sure she is safely processing what you give her. Be slow, be very patient.

With the antibiotic you might try having the full dose mixed, but only pull up the smallest amount possible into the syringe. That way if the plunger sticks a little she will only have to cope with a little fluid. A little bit of fluid going the wrong way is always better than a lot of fluid going the wrong way. Then just keeping going that way, giving the smallest possible amount, until the full dose is given.

Below is a video which may help you with your technique with using the syringe with a squirrel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLjRlzTOGHY&ab_channel=squirrelsandmorellc

I don't know how it is in your country, but sometimes drug rehabilitation programs will give out free syringes to prevent the addicts from getting sick from reusing the same syringe. (I am just trying to think of ways to get you a smaller syringe.)

[Napped]

How much does she weigh today?

How is her appetite today?

Is there still a discharge from her nose today?

If her nose is congested this will make it difficult for her to breath when you administer the antibiotic or try to give her food with the syringe. You need to push out the smallest amount possible and back off and allow her time to process that, swallow and take a few breaths before you try to get more into her. Observe her very carefully as you do this and you be better able to be sure she is safely processing what you give her. Be slow, be very patient.

With the antibiotic you might try having the full dose mixed, but only pull up the smallest amount possible into the syringe. That way if the plunger sticks a little she will only have to cope with a little fluid. A little bit of fluid going the wrong way is always better than a lot of fluid going the wrong way. Then just keeping going that way, giving the smallest possible amount, until the full dose is given.

Below is a video which may help you with your technique with using the syringe with a squirrel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLjRlzTOGHY&ab_channel=squirrelsandmorellc

I don't know how it is in your country, but sometimes drug rehabilitation programs will give out free syringes to prevent the addicts from getting sick from reusing the same syringe. (I am just trying to think of ways to get you a smaller syringe.)
She is 175g
And i notice in some spot starting losing fur

[Mel1959]

Have you been back to the store that you got her from? Have you asked what she was being fed and gotten some of whatever it is? The rate that she’s losing weight is very concerning so I think finding out what she had been eating is a priority.

Keep her nose clear by wiping it gently with a warm cloth.

How many doses of medicine has she had?

Losing fur can be nutritional or seasonal.

[Napped]

Have you been back to the store that you got her from? Have you asked what she was being fed and gotten some of whatever it is? The rate that she’s losing weight is very concerning so I think finding out what she had been eating is a priority.

Keep her nose clear by wiping it gently with a warm cloth.

How many doses of medicine has she had?

Losing fur can be nutritional or seasonal.
Until now she got 7 doses
Pet store gave seeds nuts in mix with fruits
I have made some boo balls and replace FV with yogurt.. hoping she will eat

[Mel1959]

Can you locate a different medicine called Clavamox (animal version) or Augmentin (people version) in case it needs to be added in addition to the Ciproflaxin or in case she needs to have the antibiotic switched?

[Napped]

Can you locate a different medicine called Clavamox (animal version) or Augmentin (people version) in case it needs to be added in addition to the Ciproflaxin or in case she needs to have the antibiotic switched?

If those are better i will

[Rock Monkey]

Have you tried giving her any nuts?

[Napped]

Have you tried giving her any nuts?

No i dont have nuts now i put them in the blocks
today i grind some fruits mix it with boo balls and give her from syringe

[Napped]

Do you guys recommend to give her the goats milk/heavy cream/egg recipe?

[Charley Chuckles]

I really don't know, but I'm sure someone will respond to let you know👍

[Mel1959]

I think you should give her anything that she will eat. If you can get her to drink the goats milk, heavy cream, yogurt, egg mixture, then feed it to her. She has to have some nutrition.

[Napped]

I think you should give her anything that she will eat. If you can get her to drink the goats milk, heavy cream, yogurt, egg mixture, then feed it to her. She has to have some nutrition.

Yesterday i feed her boo balls with grind fruits and later when she was in the cage she ate cucumber so i really dont think she has a teeth issue and i cant get why she dont eat blocks...

[Charley Chuckles]

Yesterday i feed her boo balls with grind fruits and later when she was in the cage she ate cucumber so i really dont think she has a teeth issue and i cant get why she dont eat blocks...

Many squirrels won't eat blocks, even mine don't always.
Try any foods just to get her eating. Do you have corn on the cob🤔 it's more a treat since it has a lot of sugar but maybe to perk up her appitie. I've even used frozen veggies before just let them defrost naturally.
Maybe this was already suggested but can you get dried meal worms? Most squirrels love them.
Hard boil an egg, let it cool and give her small pieces, my Conker loves egg, even scrambled just not in a lot of butter, I use a small amount of avocado oil however usually he gets some of my scrambled egg and it's fried in butter😶 can always microwave scrambled egg in no oil 👍

[Mel1959]

Have you tried grinding the blocks into a powder and then mixing it with some baby food and coconut or avocado oil?

[Napped]

Have you tried grinding the blocks into a powder and then mixing it with some baby food and coconut or avocado oil? i have made boo balls with the blocks but still she doesnt touch them and then i took boo balls mix it with grind apple orange and give her with syringe