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TG715
01-22-2020, 12:34 AM
Hi
I don’t know if it’s consider emergency or not. Sorry if i has post in the wrong place
This morning my squirrel, Bobo, somehow yank out her two upper teeth. Now she keep making a sneezing sound and blood will come out. Been like this for four hours already. I took her to a vet but she isn’t a squirrel expertise. The vet just give her an anti inflammatory shot. She give me some antibiotics and anti inflammatory medicine. She don’t know how to stop BoBo from nose bleeding.
Can anyone help me please?
redwuff
01-22-2020, 07:26 AM
Your vet prescribed appropriately. It will take a few days for the bleeding to stop completely. I am so sorry to hear about your squirrels accident. Just watch her.
We would love to see a picture of your sweetheart. We don’t get a chance to see squirrels from Bangkok often, what do you feed her?
TG715
01-22-2020, 08:38 AM
Your vet prescribed appropriately. It will take a few days for the bleeding to stop completely. I am so sorry to hear about your squirrels accident. Just watch her.
We would love to see a picture of your sweetheart. We don’t get a chance to see squirrels from Bangkok often, what do you feed her?
Hi Redwuff
Thanks for replying. So it’s normal for her to keep bleeding out of her nose right now? It isn’t bleeding a lot . Just every time she sneeze, there is blood coming out. I just feed her some cerelac and yogurt since she can’t bite anymore
redwuff
01-22-2020, 09:00 AM
I went back and read your other threads. Were you able to get anything to help sedate your girl? Another drug you might see if you can get your hands on is gabapentin/nuerontin. Nuerontin is prescribed a lot for pain issues for people. Here in the states, vets use it for sedation for animals that are tough to handle.
How is Bobo and your wife getting along?
You will see a lot of tissue swelling which will cause Bobo to snuffle breath for a few days. The bleeding should gradually slow down within a few days. What kind of anti inflammatory did your vet prescribe?
TG715
01-22-2020, 09:17 AM
The photos in dark background is her condition now. Her nose look a little swollen. Should I be giving her other medicine? It’s her nose bleeding nonstop that is making me worry.
TG715
01-22-2020, 09:22 AM
I went back and read your other threads. Were you able to get anything to help sedate your girl? Another drug you might see if you can get your hands on is gabapentin/nuerontin. Nuerontin is prescribed a lot for pain issues for people. Here in the states, vets use it for sedation for animals that are tough to handle.
How is Bobo and your wife getting along?
You will see a lot of tissue swelling which will cause Bobo to snuffle breath for a few days. The bleeding should gradually slow down within a few days. What kind of anti inflammatory did your vet prescribe?
No medicine was able to sedate her. I was planning to bring her to the vet to get her teeth trim. But she decide to yank it out herself in the cage instead. I seriously don’t know how she do it. I hear her screaming from her cage. The next thing I see is both of her top teeth is laying on the cage.
I don’t know what type of anti inflammatory medicine she prescribed because she have divided into few different pieces already.
What else could I feed her ? She isn’t really eating but just keep drinking water and juice.
redwuff
01-22-2020, 09:56 AM
I am making an assumption that squirrels in Bangkok need a rodent block of some sort. If I am wrong please somebody correct me.
I am going to take a picture of what ours look like. I would think your squirrels diet might be more fruit based but since she is a rodent I would think that she would need some type of rodent block, which is what the pictures are.
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frankc
01-22-2020, 09:58 AM
No medicine was able to sedate her. I was planning to bring her to the vet to get her teeth trim. But she decide to yank it out herself in the cage instead. I seriously don’t know how she do it. I hear her screaming from her cage. The next thing I see is both of her top teeth is laying on the cage.
I don’t know what type of anti inflammatory medicine she prescribed because she have divided into few different pieces already.
What else could I feed her ? She isn’t really eating but just keep drinking water and juice.
I am so sorry about your baby! A suggestion I have is to feed her baby food, veggies, and fruits. It's good that she is drinking water, and juice but I would not over do it on the juice it contains sugar. Do you have or can you get
Pedialyte clear Not Flavored) to be sure she stays hydrated, this is important with blood loss. Do you know how to do the pinch test to check for dehydration ? if not let us know it is a very simple test you can do.
also be sure she is warm, use a heating pad if you have too, we can tell you the correct way to do this, do not just put her on the pad with out a towel folded on top of the pad and the temperature on low and monitor it to be sure it is not getting to hot and make sure she can move off the heating pad if she gets to hot.
redwuff
01-22-2020, 10:02 AM
Here is another kind that is also very good. But what you would need to do with these blocks is to grind them up and make a soft ball out of it with some other ingredients. See if you can get anything like these blocks. Let us know what you find. I can send you a recipe that most squirrels really like. If your girl grows those teeth back it will be awhile, so soft balls it is. You will need to watch those bottom teeth since they no longer have the top teeth to work the bottom to wear down.
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redwuff
01-22-2020, 10:17 AM
TG I just experienced this last fall. It looks absolutely horrible but it does not take too long for them to recover. Most likely, this turns her into a non-releaseable squirrel, at least for awhile to see if teeth grow back properly. This will be ok.
But we would like to hear the history of other squirrels you have had. If the diet is not balanced they get a condition that is called MBD or metabolic bone disease. Eventually it will kill them. Basically it is similar to osteoporosis in humans only it will quickly cause bone breaks, paralysis, seizures, and death. Sometimes you don’t even see any symptoms, you just find them dead way too early in their lives. And the worst of it is, is that most squirrels like children, want to eat just the potato chips of the squirrel world.
TG715
01-22-2020, 10:25 AM
I am making an assumption that squirrels in Bangkok need a rodent block of some sort. If I am wrong please somebody correct me.
I am going to take a picture of what ours look like. I would think your squirrels diet might be more fruit based but since she is a rodent I would think that she would need some type of rodent block, which is what the pictures are.
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Yes. I started to give her those a month ago because it aren’t easy to buy rodent block here. Took me a while to find it. But right now she can’t eat so I am just giving her cerelac with calcium powder. But she don’t have the appetite to eat.
TG715
01-22-2020, 10:27 AM
I am so sorry about your baby! A suggestion I have is to feed her baby food, veggies, and fruits. It's good that she is drinking water, and juice but I would not over do it on the juice it contains sugar. Do you have or can you get
Pedialyte clear Not Flavored) to be sure she stays hydrated, this is important with blood loss. Do you know how to do the pinch test to check for dehydration ? if not let us know it is a very simple test you can do.
also be sure she is warm, use a heating pad if you have too, we can tell you the correct way to do this, do not just put her on the pad with out a towel folded on top of the pad and the temperature on low and monitor it to be sure it is not getting to hot and make sure she can move off the heating pad if she gets to hot.
I’m not sure if I can find Pedialyte. Can I give her water mixed with sugar and salt ?
TG715
01-22-2020, 10:32 AM
TG I just experienced this last fall. It looks absolutely horrible but it does not take too long for them to recover. Most likely, this turns her into a non-releaseable squirrel, at least for awhile to see if teeth grow back properly. This will be ok.
But we would like to hear the history of other squirrels you have had. If the diet is not balanced they get a condition that is called MBD or metabolic bone disease. Eventually it will kill them. Basically it is similar to osteoporosis in humans only it will quickly cause bone breaks, paralysis, seizures, and death. Sometimes you don’t even see any symptoms, you just find them dead way too early in their lives. And the worst of it is, is that most squirrels like children, want to eat just the potato chips of the squirrel world.
Bobo is my fourth squirrel. I lost my first squirrel when he was four months old because I didn’t realize calcium is their priority until his death. Then I started to do research and found this website. I learned a lot from this website. Then when I got my second and third squirrel, I feed them vegetables and fruits along with calcium powder. Honestly, rodent blocks isn’t easy to find here. Lucky enough, my second and third squirrel grow up healthy.
Just now Bobo is the most wild one I ever own. Won’t let me cut teeth or cut nails. Very very stubborn.
redwuff
01-22-2020, 10:51 AM
I’m not sure if I can find Pedialyte. Can I give her water mixed with sugar and salt ?
My guess is that if she is drinking plain water that will be fine. Frank is correct that if a body loses too much blood they will become dehydrated. But this usually is not a huge loss of blood, just scary looking.
The cereal, if she will eat it is ok for a day or two, but anything longer then that will not give her enough nutrients long range. I will send my recipe to you but you will need a blender to grind the block and nuts to a fine powder. If I leave any nut chunks in the boo ball, I find the squirrels tear it apart to get to the small nut piece. I do not bake mine and I also add oatmeal to it. (I throw oatmeal outside for my hens to eat and saw the wild squirrels were also eating it). You can add more or less applesauce or any kind of puréed fruit to make it the consistency you want.
This was given to me nine years ago when I had my first squirrel and I fed her mostly nuts cos that’s what I though squirrels ate. Thank goodness my friend helped me get her on a life sustaining diet. She is now nine years old
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redwuff
01-22-2020, 10:58 AM
Bobo is my fourth squirrel. I lost my first squirrel when he was four months old because I didn’t realize calcium is their priority until his death. Then I started to do research and found this website. I learned a lot from this website. Then when I got my second and third squirrel, I feed them vegetables and fruits along with calcium powder. Honestly, rodent blocks isn’t easy to find here. Lucky enough, my second and third squirrel grow up healthy.
Just now Bobo is the most wild one I ever own. Won’t let me cut teeth or cut nails. Very very stubborn.
Thank you for doing the research TG. Yeah, diet is it! I would continue to make the effort to find rodent block. Just adding calcium to food is like playing Russian roulette, you never know if you have enough or too much. The website Henry’s Healthy Pet has a recipe to make the Henry’s Healthy block. Have you ever seen that?
frankc
01-22-2020, 11:18 AM
I’m not sure if I can find Pedialyte. Can I give her water mixed with sugar and salt ?
Yes you can give her that but not long term. She needs electrolytes that is in hydration fluids. I am not sure what you have available in your country, but I would look for a hydration fluid that is used to hydrate children.If you find some let us know what is in it before giving it to your baby squirrel. Do you know the amount of sugar and salt to mix with water? again if not we can help you there also. Also if you find a hydration fluid try to get some that is not flavored because that also contains sugar.
Also please follow Redwuff advice we have some excellent rehabbers on the board and she is one of them. Please keep us posted !! We all care very much for our fury friends no matter were they are in the world. :)
frankc
01-22-2020, 11:38 AM
Hi Again. I noticed in your post that you said your vet dose not know much about squirrels. I just finished classes at the Tufts Wildlife college, and it is my understanding that they (tufts) will help any vet in need of information, and guidance. I have included there contact information that you might pass along to your vet. Hope this helps.
The Tufts Wildlife Clinic is located in the Bernice Barbour Wildlife Medicine Building on the campus of Cummings School of Veterinary Medicine at Tufts University.
50 Willard St.
North Grafton, MA 01536
Campus Map
MAILING ADDRESS
Tufts Wildlife Clinic
Bernice Barbour Wildlife Medicine Building
200 Westboro Road
North Grafton, MA 01536
HOURS OF OPERATION
Monday through Friday: 8:00 am to 5:00 pm
Please try to drop off by 4:00 pm so we have time to admit the animal before we close.
Saturday and Sunday: 9:00 am to 12:00 pm
Closed: Thanksgiving, Christmas Day and New Years Day
Phone
508-839-7918
Fax
508-839-7930
TG715
01-22-2020, 11:41 AM
Thank you all for the love and caring you give to my baby girl. I will try to gather all the ingredients and try the recipe. Bobo doesn’t like to eat nuts. I try to give to her a few times but she always just ignore it.
I have found a powder drink that have electrolytes. Can you tell me if it’s suitable or not ?
redwuff
01-22-2020, 12:24 PM
Thank you all for the love and caring you give to my baby girl. I will try to gather all the ingredients and try the recipe. Bobo doesn’t like to eat nuts. I try to give to her a few times but she always just ignore it
Out of curiosity, do you offer Bobo shelled nuts. Is that what she refuses?
Nancy in New York
01-22-2020, 12:28 PM
Thank you all for the love and caring you give to my baby girl. I will try to gather all the ingredients and try the recipe. Bobo doesn’t like to eat nuts. I try to give to her a few times but she always just ignore it.
I have found a powder drink that have electrolytes. Can you tell me if it’s suitable or not ?
As redwuff said above, if your squirrel is drinking water, there is no need for Pedialyte
IF you ever have a squirrel that is dehydrated, especially due to diarrhea, use the homemade Pedialyte formula.
Homemade Pedialyte
1 cup warm water
1/4 tsp salt (teaspoon)
1 Tbsp sugar (tablespoon)
FYI Placing a salt into a solvent (such as water) also results in an electrolyte solution.
frankc
01-22-2020, 12:36 PM
Thank you all for the love and caring you give to my baby girl. I will try to gather all the ingredients and try the recipe. Bobo doesn’t like to eat nuts. I try to give to her a few times but she always just ignore it.
I have found a powder drink that have electrolytes. Can you tell me if it’s suitable or not ?
Hi. Ok I conferred with Redwuff, and it is agreed that you should give your baby girl the following.
Mix 1.5 Tablespoons of Sugar, along with a 1/2 teaspoon of salt too two cups of water. Make sure it is all mixed real good. I suggest you use hot water to mix it, it will desolve much better. Then cool it to just warm not hot and she if she will take that. This should only be given for one day ONLY.
Check her as it goes in case she dose dehydrate but I don't thin she will. Do you know how to do the pinch test for dehydration?
TG715
01-22-2020, 01:17 PM
Out of curiosity, do you offer Bobo shelled nuts. Is that what she refuses?
I offer her walnuts, almond, and cashews before. She refuse all of them. She will taste it and then throw it away. Lol
TG715
01-22-2020, 01:18 PM
I notice her nose start to swell. Is there anything I can do to help her?
TG715
01-22-2020, 01:21 PM
Hi. Ok I conferred with Redwuff, and it is agreed that you should give your baby girl the following.
Mix 1.5 Tablespoons of Sugar, along with a 1/2 teaspoon of salt too two cups of water. Make sure it is all mixed real good. I suggest you use hot water to mix it, it will desolve much better. Then cool it to just warm not hot and she if she will take that. This should only be given for one day ONLY.
Check her as it goes in case she dose dehydrate but I don't thin she will. Do you know how to do the pinch test for dehydration?
Hi Redwuff
Yes I know how to do the pinch test. She just been basically just drinking water and juice all day. I just give her some water mixed with salt and sugar. She is just look very tire and her nose is really bothering her. She can’t stop making the sneezing noise with blood coming out. Her nose start to swell too. I don’t know what else I can do to make her feel better
Mel1959
01-22-2020, 01:31 PM
What is the anti inflammatory the vet prescribed?
TG715
01-22-2020, 01:35 PM
What is the anti inflammatory the vet prescribed?
I don’t know because she already cut it into small pieces. She given Bobo an anti inflammatory shot at the clinic. Then give me medicine for her to take in the morning
TG715
01-22-2020, 01:54 PM
Should I crush anti inflammatory medicine and put in the juice for her take or should I put it in water?
redwuff
01-22-2020, 02:04 PM
Follow directions given from the vet on anti inflammatory meds. Can you call and ask the vet what it is. We might be able to suggest something but we need to know what she has already been given. She will look very rough for a few days but she will get over it.
TG715
01-22-2020, 07:01 PM
Follow directions given from the vet on anti inflammatory meds. Can you call and ask the vet what it is. We might be able to suggest something but we need to know what she has already been given. She will look very rough for a few days but she will get over it.
Unfortunately she didn’t give me any direction except it say to take after breakfast. maybe she thought Bobo can take the pill without crushing. I end up crushing it and mix it with water. Bobo won’t swallow the small piece of pill. I won’t able to call the clinic until Monday because of Chinese New Year is coming up. The pill is light yellow color. I don’t know if that helps or not.
She keep making the “pftt” noise more and more. Should I be concern? She is refusing to eat too.
Mel1959
01-22-2020, 07:10 PM
Did you try giving baby food? It should even go through a syringe so you can gently squirt it in her mouth.
TG715
01-22-2020, 08:37 PM
Did you try giving baby food? It should even go through a syringe so you can gently squirt it in her mouth.
Yes. I force fed her a little. I don’t want to stress her out more. She just want to keep drinking water.
redwuff
01-22-2020, 10:59 PM
She is really sore. I mentioned gabapentin/ nuerontin earlier. She could take that for pain if you could find any.
TG715
01-23-2020, 06:22 AM
I want to thank everyone for your advices and caring for Bobo. She seems to be better this afternoon. In the morning, she still didn’t want to eat and just want to lay down. She was making crying noises. Luckily late afternoon, she start being her old self again (being naughty) and eat a lot.
Thank you for helping me out and given me so many advices. Hopefully my baby girl will truly heal soon.
RockyPops
01-23-2020, 01:03 PM
That's good news TG715!
Please keep us posted on her progress.
Thank you for caring for her!:dance
TG715
01-26-2020, 08:25 PM
That's good news TG715!
Please keep us posted on her progress.
Thank you for caring for her!:dance
Hi everyone
My baby girl is acting normal again (crazy and wild). Thank you all again. Without you guys , I will be panicking and worry to death. Thanks again
But there is one problem. Ever since she lost her teeth, she start to make the ‘pfts’ sound a lot and keep sneezing. Otherwise than that, everything seems to be normal. She still will on antibiotics for another two days.
redwuff
01-26-2020, 08:54 PM
Hi everyone
My baby girl is acting normal again (crazy and wild). Thank you all again. Without you guys , I will be panicking and worry to death. Thanks again
But there is one problem. Ever since she lost her teeth, she start to make the ‘pfts’ sound a lot and keep sneezing. Otherwise than that, everything seems to be normal. She still will on antibiotics for another two days.
She is still swollen and inflamed. Give it more time. Glad to hear she is better.
TG715
01-27-2020, 09:13 AM
She is still swollen and inflamed. Give it more time. Glad to hear she is better.
Thank you, Redwuff. Should I ask the vet for more anti inflammatory medicine ?
redwuff
01-27-2020, 09:35 AM
Anti inflammatory meds can be hard on the kidneys and liver. Watch her and see if it resolves on its own. Is she still on antibiotics?
TG715
01-28-2020, 09:18 PM
Anti inflammatory meds can be hard on the kidneys and liver. Watch her and see if it resolves on its own. Is she still on antibiotics?
No. She finish her antibiotics yesterday. I only given her for 7 days. Should I continue? She is still doing the pfts sound but less sneezing
island rehabber
01-29-2020, 09:16 AM
Squirrels do make pffft sounds a lot -- I wouldn't be too concerned unless you see blood again.
TG715
01-30-2020, 09:49 AM
I want to thank everyone for your help and caring. Now I hope my baby girl’s teeth will come back out. Thank you all again and again
frankc
01-30-2020, 09:53 AM
I want to thank everyone for your help and caring. Now I hope my baby girl’s teeth will come back out. Thank you all again and again
She is just absolutely Beautiful. You are a lucky Mom. Thank You for caring and loving this precious little girl. :Love_Icon:serene
RockyPops
01-30-2020, 07:07 PM
She is a beautiful baby!
Keep us updated from time to time on her progress.
Thank you for caring for her!
TG715
02-15-2020, 07:38 PM
Hi everyone
Been a month since my baby girl lost her top teeth but she is still doing good. However, I don’t see any teeth growing back out yet .. lol.. She kept grinding her bottom teeth to keep it short so it’s good. Just lately she doesn’t have much appetite to eat much and look a little sad. Hopefully she will be normal again soon.
Without your caring and advice, I would have been so lost.
Thank each one of you to take the time to read and reply.
RockyPops
02-16-2020, 12:00 AM
She looks good! Thanks for caring for her!
What about diet? What does she typically eat?
And what about her bottom teeth? Are they getting too long?
TG715
02-21-2020, 02:40 PM
She looks good! Thanks for caring for her!
What about diet? What does she typically eat?
And what about her bottom teeth? Are they getting too long?
Hi
I grind the Mazuri rodent block for her to eat. I give her some mangos and oranges once a while. Her bottom teeth looks great. She is keeping it short.
Today she keep sneezing when she is sleeping. I don’t know should I be worrying or not because she does sneeze once a while when she sleep. Just tonight a bit more often.
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