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threelilkids
09-24-2018, 08:43 PM
Hi, I have a baby that a few days ago when I pick her up to feed would bite me so I would say anh anh and she would stop and freeze then we would go about feeding, but today when I picked her up she bit me hard I fussed the lil anh anh at her and she put her paws together and bit herself. I have been thinking that she is blind and not knowing its me and getting scared, so I touched her eye and she didn't blink until I made contacted. She is starting to run on me but would fall off to the floor if I didn't catch her. I started putting my hand in the box near her and letting her smell me before picking her up this has been better, no bite. I have started putting blocks and cheerio's in her box but she has not ate anything yet. I have had her from 2 days old and she started fussing at me when I pick her up at about 4 weeks. Has anyone had this problem before? I always release but how can I if she is blind. Thanks

cava
09-25-2018, 06:34 AM
Babies can take time to develop and it's normal for them to be aggressive with you once they open their eyes, they are practicing normal behavior. Do you get this baby out more often than just feeding? If not, she may be startled at you when you come around every few hours.

Remove the cheerios. They are junk food and no good for her growth and development.

What formula are you feeding her? At this age they will misjudge distance and fall off of a table. They wouldn't be allowed out of a nest yet if they were with mom.

It will help for you to spend time wit her, entice her to see and play with objects, touching the eye is not an indicator and she HAS to keep them open to watch for predators, especially if she is nervous or startled, or frozen.

Can you post a photo of her eyes and body?

threelilkids
09-25-2018, 04:28 PM
Babies can take time to develop and it's normal for them to be aggressive with you once they open their eyes, they are practicing normal behavior. Do you get this baby out more often than just feeding? If not, she may be startled at you when you come around every few hours.

Remove the cheerios. They are junk food and no good for her growth and development.

What formula are you feeding her? At this age they will misjudge distance and fall off of a table. They wouldn't be allowed out of a nest yet if they were with mom.

It will help for you to spend time wit her, entice her to see and play with objects, touching the eye is not an indicator and she HAS to keep them open to watch for predators, especially if she is nervous or startled, or frozen.

Can you post a photo of her eyes and body?

Ok I'll take the cheerios out She is on the puppy formula that is recommended on this site. Thanks for the distance info, I don't know how to post a pic I will try later. I am having trouble feeding her she doesn't want to suck she fusses and fights me the whole time, I had a friend feed for a week at the time their eyes opened, my friend is left handed I am right handed, she will suck my finger when I have formula on it, the formula is all over her and me by the time feeding is over, like she is hungry but pushes it away. Went back to a syringe because she will not suck at it, don't know what happened its just her the sister is sucking fine. I am so confused with her. I had her on a formula and she got sick (see my other text) I changed to what this board told me to when they got better, but she is acting so strange, she is ok with the taste but just fights me at feeding. Yes I do take her out between feedings. Never had this trouble before.

DanC
09-25-2018, 08:34 PM
If you are using your phone to take the pics, just email them to yourself. Then open your email on the pc and save the pics to your pc. As for posting a photo, you can see here.
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?41231-Uploading-pics-in-the-upgraded-TSB

threelilkids
09-25-2018, 10:19 PM
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threelilkids
09-25-2018, 10:32 PM
Ok pics are here, lol. I am at my last straw with this girl, when I fed her just now she was fine with me but will not nurse I pet her and she picked up her leg to let me and she was loving it, then out of the blue she jumped and grunted and bit me so hard she drew blood, as I jerked my hand back she bit herself so hard she cried out in pain but kept on biting herself I had to make her let go, she then ground her teeth at me and grunted. I am getting scared to hold her. How am I going to feed her? She will not eat, I have to force feed her and I am scared she will choke, PLEASE help. I feel like she is going crazy.

VTech1
09-27-2018, 04:04 PM
I had one that acted this way. Can you wrap her in a towel with only the face exposed for feeding? She may need to feel safe and a towel does that for them.

Maybe she really does not feel well and thus, won't eat and does not want to be handled?

TamiKakes
09-27-2018, 05:08 PM
I noticed you stated that you had to go back to syringe feeding cause she wasn't sucking but her sister is.
Are you feeding her using a bottle??

threelilkids
09-27-2018, 05:36 PM
I noticed you stated that you had to go back to syringe feeding cause she wasn't sucking but her sister is.
Are you feeding her using a bottle??

No had a miracle nipple on a syringe an took it off to just use the syringe only, I do know not to use a bottle to feed the squirrels, but thanks. I saw that her teeth was very long and not lining up so I trimmed them, so now she is doing better she started sucking on the syringe and stopped biting :w00t

TamiKakes
09-27-2018, 05:48 PM
No had a miracle nipple on a syringe an took it off to just use the syringe only, I do know not to use a bottle to feed the squirrels, but thanks. I saw that her teeth was very long and not lining up so I trimmed them, so now she is doing better she started sucking on the syringe and stopped biting :w00t

OK great!
The short time I have been on the board, you can't really assume anyone, no matter how many squirrels they have helped in the past, knows the 'basics'

Glad to hear shes is doing a bit better!

threelilkids
09-27-2018, 06:28 PM
The bad thing is she is sooo small only 85g, but she was the runt of 4.

redwuff
09-28-2018, 12:44 PM
She is in rough shape. Eight weeks old and 85 grams is tiny. Her fur development is compromised. She has not gotten in the guard hairs on her fur. She has a condition that is called kitten fur syndrome.

Let's see if we can figure out what is going on. You said you are feeding her the formula recommended by TSB. Would you post a picture of that and also what her sibling looks like. Sometimes an individual does not do well on a certain diet. Maybe she needs something different.

Her behavior sounds a bit on the bizarre side. Little baby squirrel bites hurt a lot. Good for you to hang in there after getting bit like that. Something is not right. Diet is usually what we ask about first. Let's see what this sweetle shark is eating (besides your flesh) and we will go from there.

threelilkids
09-28-2018, 02:27 PM
She is in rough shape. Eight weeks old and 85 grams is tiny. Her fur development is compromised. She has not gotten in the guard hairs on her fur. She has a condition that is called kitten fur syndrome.

Let's see if we can figure out what is going on. You said you are feeding her the formula recommended by TSB. Would you post a picture of that and also what her sibling looks like. Sometimes an individual does not do well on a certain diet. Maybe she needs something different.

Her behavior sounds a bit on the bizarre side. Little baby squirrel bites hurt a lot. Good for you to hang in there after getting bit like that. Something is not right. Diet is usually what we ask about first. Let's see what this sweetle shark is eating (besides your flesh) and we will go from there.

Thanks for being nice, I was feeding her evaporated milk with = parts water, 1 egg yolk and Karo syrup. NOW please don't freak out I already got fussed at over this. She was having seizures, and I changed after she was stable, from goat milk to the puppy formula, with baby cereal and banana, going to put her on FV when it comes in. Her sister is bigger and she is white, I don't know about hair coming in but I think the father is a white male we see hanging around here. I raised the mother and she had the babies in my bird house. A friend is raising her sister. I think she was biting because my hand smelled like a kitten I am having to hand feed (foster kitten), so I fixed that. She stopped eating for a few days, I had to force feed her now she is back to eating 7cc 3times a day with Oxbow blocks, until the Henry's comes in. Hope this helps.

redwuff
09-29-2018, 09:09 AM
Thanks for being nice, I was feeding her evaporated milk with = parts water, 1 egg yolk and Karo syrup. NOW please don't freak out I already got fussed at over this. She was having seizures, and I changed after she was stable, from goat milk to the puppy formula, with baby cereal and banana, going to put her on FV when it comes in. Her sister is bigger and she is white, I don't know about hair coming in but I think the father is a white male we see hanging around here. I raised the mother and she had the babies in my bird house. A friend is raising her sister. I think she was biting because my hand smelled like a kitten I am having to hand feed (foster kitten), so I fixed that. She stopped eating for a few days, I had to force feed her now she is back to eating 7cc 3times a day with Oxbow blocks, until the Henry's comes in. Hope this helps.

Awww.... it is not a matter of being nice, we are all trying to help. Some are just gruffer in that presentation. I did go back to read your bio and I see that you have a lot of squirrel experience. Sorry if I dumbed things down too much.

Diet on squirrels is one of those things that start wars, unfortunately. We just had a little red squirrel that the finder was feeding 10% of body weight of the tried and true Esbilac and the baby was wasting away on that diet. Two weeks on a different diet and it was a different baby. So one diet does not work all the time

Don't know how long you have had this little girl, but kitten fur takes awhile of inadequate diet/poor nutrition to develop. For some reason, possibly diet, the baby you showed is not thriving. I am so glad you are willing to try another diet. I hope she does well on the FV.

I don't have your baby in my hands, have not been able to observe the behavior she is exhibiting, but I am wondering if she might have MBD, if her little body is hurting and the lack of nutrition has affected her mind a bit. Just a thought.