Couple questions.....

[TamiKakes]

I finally got a gram scale (one I had was broken) and finally weighed my baby girl. Says 137 grams. So about 5 1/2 ish weeks old? Her eyes have not opened yet.
Also, she was pooping fine, was black tar like her first poo when we rescued her and then was slightly runny. Now I haven't seen anything in about a day and a half. She is on esbilac with probiotics, feeding about 7am, 11am, 3pm, 7pm and 11 PM.
Should I supplement water/salt/sugar mix between feedings?
Pee is a pale sometimes kinda bright looking yellow.

[Javarat]

Age is based more on fur and eyes than weight.

3 weeks - The baby's lower front teeth begin emerging. Hair is now slick, smooth, and shiny. Still no hair on legs and belly.
4 weeks - Has light grayish-brownish hair all over, except lower legs and belly and under tail. Some downy white hair beginning on belly and legs.
5 weeks - Thicker hair, including legs and belly. Tail hair is short, straight, and lies parallel with the bone. Eyes open.
5 to 6 weeks -Upper front teeth begin emerging. Begins curling tail over back.

As far as diet... Dark brown poop is the remnants of mother's milk. They will often go through a period of not pooping (but peeing) during transition. I just had one that did not poop for 36 hours. Then you will see a feeding or two with whitish soft poop, and then it will change to yellow hard pellets.

I would bet your baby is less than 5 weeks and should be getting 6 feedings per day. It should be eating between 6 and 9 ml per feeding. Keep stimulating to get pee and try to get poop. Feel the tummy.. it should be soft like a water balloon, white with no rash or redness. Any sign of a rash or hard tummy after more than 24 hours of no poop could be bloating and constipation. You would then want to immediately swap to a frequent (2 hours) water feeding to break the blockage.

8 hours is way too long for a nighttime... you really need to do a feeding at around 3am!!!<<<< VERY IMPORTANT
Long periods between feedings like this puts the baby's digestive system on pause, which can cause constipation, blockage, and possibly fatal bloating.

[TamiKakes]

She looks like pics of 5 weeks with all the fur though. That's why I'm confused.

[Javarat]

They are very furry at this time of year.
If she has any pink on her tummy at all.. she is less than 5 weeks.

PLEASE do a feeding at 3am tonight.
She is not stabilized yet... as she has not yet passed yellow pellets.
Right now she is probably crampy and dehydrated as her body shifts from mother's milk to formula.
We need to keep the feedings at every 3 to 4 hours, but no longer.
Three would be even better until she transitions, as we don't want her to dry up and get blocked.
Her body keeps trying to pull water from the food, but she will only poop when you stimulate her after a feeding.
If she pulls too much fluid out of her intestines it could block her up.
You may have to rub her genital area with a cotton ball, a napkin, or finger for up to 10 minutes after each feeding to get her system moving.
Watch out for any hardness of the tummy or reluctance to eat (less than 3 ml).

You will need to do a middle of the night feeding for about a week after she opens her eyes.

A baby squirrel at less than 6 weeks is like a human baby of less than 6 months.
Except they won't wake you up at 3am because they are starving.

[TamiKakes]

Okay. Thank you.

[Javarat]

Excuse me if anything I said was upsetting.
I never feel safe with a baby until I see several feedings with nice, firm, yellow pellets afterwards.
I have a 5 1/2 week old right now, furry with eyes open, and I feed it at 8am, 12am, 4pm, 8pm, midnight, and 4am.
It went for 31 hours with no poops... now that it has pooped yellow pellets several times I will probably shift it to 4.5 hour feedings.
It gets easier once they hit two weeks after eyes open... when you can go to four 6 hour feedings.

5 weeks (4 hours) 6 feedings per day
6 weeks (4->5 hours) 5 feedings
7 weeks (6 hours) 4 feedings
8 weeks (12 hours) 2 - 3 feedings
9 weeks (12 hours) 2 feedings
10+ offer once per day until release
(The more Calcium they take with them the better!)

[TamiKakes]

So I shouldn't go by this? This is the like that is posted all over this board.....

[Javarat]

I normally go with the rule of
white fur on belly, and the eyes open...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY... you are 5 weeks old today!
Then I arrange my feeding schedule based on that.

[Javarat]

If she was already passing yellow pellets you could go up to 6 hours at night.
But she is still in transition.. which is where we lose the most squirrels to bloat.
This is the period when she needs the most attention and very frequent feedings.
After she poops yellow pellets 3 to 4 times you could do a longer period at night.
But I would still not go more than 5 or 6 hours.
And a schedule of evenly distributed feeds is even better, if you can afford to lose the sleep.

[TamiKakes]

I know this is a bad pic, she ddoesnt like being on her back at all....this is her belly.

[Javarat]

From the picture.. she still has a little pink on her thighs, but is mostly grown in.
She should open her eyes any day now!

[Spanky]

She looks like a fox squirrel and she is gorgeous! She'll be a bit larger than the more common grey squirrels.

Thank you for helping her and :Welcome to TSB.

Javarat's advise about feeding overnight is good advice since she is not yet adjusted to formula. The dark poos are from mom's milk and once on Esbilac will turn to a golden color. Once she is pooping gold (LoL) regularly you can consider 7 or even 8 hours overnight. With eyes closed she is not quite 5 weeks old and Henry's "overnight" advice is assumed for a stable baby... yours will be stable once she has transitioned to Esbilac and pooing gold (could not help myself from saying that twice!).

You are using the powdered Esbilac and not the pre-mixed liquid?

[TamiKakes]

Yes I am using powdered, will start the transition to Fox when I get it in a couple days.

[TamiKakes]

And yes she is a fox squirrel. This is who I believe is her momma (there are 2 families that live in the tree)
I call her sweet pea. She comes right up to us and eats shelled walnuts and peanuts (unrolled, natural) from our hand.
I have a pic of the other female I call skitty....she gets just so close to eating from out hand but then runs away and crawls back.

[TamiKakes]

This is skitty. The other female

[TamiKakes]

She looks like a fox squirrel and she is gorgeous! She'll be a bit larger than the more common grey squirrels.

Thank you for helping her and :Welcome to TSB.

Javarat's advise about feeding overnight is good advice since she is not yet adjusted to formula. The dark poos are form mom's milk and once on Esbilac will turn to a golden color. Once she is pooping gold (LoL) regularly you can consider 7 or even 8 hours overnight. With eyes closed she is not quite 5 weeks old and Henry's "overnight" advice is assumed for a stable baby... yours will be stable once she has transitioned to Esbilac and pooing gold (could not help myself from saying that twice!).

You are using the powdered Esbilac and not the pre-mixed liquid?



Lol. I kinda laugh when I hear "more common grey squirrel" there are a few cities around here that have some grey squirrels, and even black, but around here it's all fox squirrels and they are my most favorite adorable creatures ever.

[TamiKakes]

We have Poop! I did a couple warm water "dunks" of her lower half, tad bit of apple juice diluted in water (after reading to do that, then read not to.
Today I massaged her belly with a warm washcloth and got this nugget out of her.
She does not appear to be bloated at all.
I think I want letting the milk sit long enough after making it and feeding her.
Is this a healthy looking poo?

[Spanky]

Lol. I kinda laugh when I hear "more common grey squirrel" there are a few cities around here that have some grey squirrels, and even black, but around here it's all fox squirrels and they are my most favorite adorable creatures ever.

I only meant that Grey squirrels are more populous in general and live across a wider geographical area. Those "black" squirrels are likely the same grey squirrel species... there are areas where they are white (not albino). And down here along the coasts of Carolinas, Georgia and Florida Fox Squirrels have banded eyes like raccoons and almost resemble monkeys at a quick glance.


We have Poop! I did a couple warm water "dunks" of her lower half, tad bit of apple juice diluted in water (after reading to do that, then read not to.
Today I massaged her belly with a warm washcloth and got this nugget out of her.
She does not appear to be bloated at all.
I think I want letting the milk sit long enough after making it and feeding her.
Is this a healthy looking poo?

Are you keeping the formula in the fridge and discarding any formula that is warmed for feeding but not used?

[TamiKakes]

Are you keeping the formula in the fridge and discarding any formula that is warmed for feeding but not used?[/QUOTE]

Yes I am. I want mixing 6-8 hours before hand at first, (rof the first couple days) am i safe to assume this could have caused some back up? I believe i read that somewhere. I just got my fox valley tonight in the mail so i have that mixed 25% FV 75%esbilac for tomorrows feedings the already measured the dry formula for wednesdays (50/50) and Thursdays (75/25)

Here is a pic i just snapped of her sleeping on her back. (Shes usually in a lil ball) it's about the only way I can get a belly shot cause as soon as I put her on her back in any way she twists and runs up my arm or goes into fetal position.

[TamiKakes]

Are you keeping the formula in the fridge and discarding any formula that is warmed for feeding but not used?[/QUOTE]

Wasn't waiting he 6-8 hrs I meant to say....
Anything not used is tossed.

I have had to nurse puppies in the past so I am familiar with formula ediquite. Just not squirrels.

[Spanky]

I have had to nurse puppies in the past so I am familiar with formula ediquite. Just not squirrels.

Okay, that is good.. we just sometimes can not assume anything and those poops are abnormal after being on Esbilac for days and days so I am trying to consider possible causes...

[TamiKakes]

Okay, that is good.. we just sometimes can not assume anything and those poops are abnormal after being on Esbilac for days and days so I am trying to consider possible causes...

They could be a day or so old. I had about 5 tshirts in the bin and would wash the top ones when she would pee. The bottom ones were in there for a couple days and I just washed all of them and they shook out of it

[Spanky]

They could be a day or so old. I had about 5 tshirts in the bin and would wash the top ones when she would pee. The bottom ones were in there for a couple days and I just washed all of them and they shook out of it

Ah.. that makes sense! They do darken and dry out over time... so if those were no fresh poops that is good news! My take away when reading the post was those were fresh poops!

[TamiKakes]

Ah.. that makes sense! They do darken and dry out over time... so if those were no fresh poops that is good news! My take away when reading the post was those were fresh poops!


I'm sorry I want clear from the get go.

[Spanky]

No worries, I happy that the baby is doing well and we may be worrying over nothing! Keep up the good work.

[TamiKakes]

Thank you.
I used to have chinchillas so I assume care for them is pretty similar as they are rodents. But I also never had a baby one. I know how plastic is bad and certain types of wood. I'm just a worried new squirrel mama

[TamiKakes]

To try and keep all my questions in one place, here are a couple more..... (sorry if I'm asking a lot, I have tried to do a search and I'm not finding much)


Feeding with syringe, when do/can they, if at all, can they have formula without syringe feeding?

Water bottle- when to introduce a water bottle in the crate? Henry's information states 10-12 weeks the baby is ready for full size cage..... but states at 6 weeks to add water bottle to cage....at what point to I transition from the plastic bin and heating pad combo? When do we no longer need the heating pad?

[Spanky]

Feeding with syringe, when do/can they, if at all, can they have formula without syringe feeding?

I feed with a syringe right up until release if they will take it. You can offer formula in a shallow dish at about week 9 or 10.


Water bottle- when to introduce a water bottle in the crate?

6 weeks +/-


Henry's information states 10-12 weeks the baby is ready for full size cage..... but states at 6 weeks to add water bottle to cage....at what point to I transition from the plastic bin and heating pad combo?

While plastic bins are used commonly, I will place them in a small cage at 6 weeks or so (link to an example below). I like them to start climbing in these smaller cages before they move to a larger cage... and I realize everyone does not have the luxury of 6 different size "cages" but that is my progression (small tub, larger tube, first small wire cage, multi level adolescent cage (they stay here only about 10 - 14 days), full size cage and release cage! LoL

Your transition question I underlined.. I am unsure what you are asking?

I believe Henry's is using the word "cage" generically to refer to the housing of the squirrel.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00266RHK2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1



When do we no longer need the heating pad?
Sometime after their eyes open you'll notice they tend to sleep on the opposite end of the cage from the heat. When they are choosing the unheated side of the cage (or bin) for several days you can remove the heating pad.

[TamiKakes]

I feed with a syringe right up until release if they will take it. You can offer formula in a shallow dish at about week 9 or 10.

Thank you. I need to get some of the miracle nipples as i'm terrified he is going to guzzle down too fast. I hate anything to happen and I have NO idea where I can get meds (and go figure, I'm allergic to Cipro so I can't get a RX for that :( )

I read somewhere that there is a med that works that you can get at aquarium stores? I don't remember where I read that.....

6 weeks +/-



While plastic bins are used commonly, I will place them in a small cage at 6 weeks or so (link to an example below). I like them to start climbing in these smaller cages before they move to a larger cage... and I realize everyone does not have the luxury of 6 different size "cages" but that is my progression (small tub, larger tube, first small wire cage, multi level adolescent cage (they stay here only about 10 - 14 days), full size cage and release cage! LoL

Your transition question I underlined.. I am unsure what you are asking?

I'm assuming you don't put the heating pad in the cage, only while they are in the "bin" like the picture Henry's shows.

I believe Henry's is using the word "cage" generically to refer to the housing of the squirrel.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00266RHK2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1



Sometime after their eyes open you'll notice they tend to sleep on the opposite end of the cage from the heat. When they are choosing the unheated side of the cage (or bin) for several days you can remove the heating pad.

Great. THank you. I didn't see that info anywhere.
:hug

[TamiKakes]

I know bleeding is normal when teething to bleed. But this seems like a lot of blood....
Am I just worrying too much?

Btw. Also. Poop is solid (not hard) and a dark yellow

[Javarat]

Inspect her mouth, toes, butt...every inch of her.. try to figure out where the bleeding is coming from.

[TamiKakes]

It's from her eating. Was on the syringe

[Spanky]

Looks pretty normal. Her teeth probably cut through the gums on that last feeding session. There should not be any more bleeding, at least not like this incident as the gums close up. If this continues that would be cause for concern.

[Javarat]

Okay, you bounced around several threads... I just wanted a current status.
Is she pooping when you stimulate after feeding? What color and how many pellets?
How much does she weigh today?
How much is she eating per feeding?

[TamiKakes]

Poop is yellow, about 7-10 pellets. Eating 10ish CCs every 4 hours. Only eating about 2-3ccs at night when I feed at 3am. (Feed at 7pm, 11pm, 3am, 7am ect)
Weight is 148g

[TamiKakes]

Is it common that after feeding, or during when she gets distracted and starts scurrying around, to "root around" and suck on the shirt/fleece blanket that is nearby that I have her in? (or my shirt)

[Javarat]

Yes. You may be seeing a 'grooming' instinct they get after feedings.
Or she smells spilled formula on the blanket.

[TamiKakes]

Also, she is 151 g as of this morning. Shes loving the Fox Valley formula

[TamiKakes]

Few more questions.....
IF by chance ashlie were to get pneumonia, how long after she inhales the formula in her lungs would the clicking start? Is it right away, 5 mins, hour?


What are the signs of hypoglycemia?
Some current pics of my baby girl. She is very camera shy.

[CritterMom]

No, it takes a bit. This is more or less what happens (anyone with medical background please jump in and correct anything I screw up here):

1. Baby gets so enthusiastic eating that he cannot swallow fast enough and this is when you see the milk come out of his nose. This obviously makes him snort and sputter and in the process of inhaling he manages to get some of the formula into his lungs.

2. The formula introduces all sorts of bacteria that absolutely do NOT belong in the lungs, causing infection, and the body begins trying to fight that infection by causing secretions - snot, mucous, etc. The clicking you eventually hear is their breath as it passes through the mucous filled airways.

So it takes a while before you hear the click. Any time you see sudden lethargy, loss of appetite, trying to crawl AWAY from the warm part of the "nest" you are on your way to a problem. The body's other favorite immune defense is fever and I am betting that these babies have them if one were to check.

By the way, you can prevent most of these. First, use small syringes to feed. Make sure they are O-ring type, not the cheap disposables that stick. When the babies graduate from needing you to gently and carefully press the plunger to deposit the food in their mouths to eating the nipple and the end off the syringe, you need to change your grip on the syringe - wrap your finger around the plunger - you don't need to press anymore, you need to hold it back and YOU decide when they get more food.

And lastly, if you are not squeamish, the absolute best thing to do if all else fails and you see milk coming out the nose, IMMEDIATELY drop the syringe, turn the baby upside down so it's nose is pointing to the floor and it's tail up to the ceiling, put your lips around it's nose and gently suck. Do it fast enough and you will get all of the formula OUT before it can go DOWN into the lungs and all it will cost you is having to spit out a squirrel booger or two. :grin2 I have done this any number of times and have never had a case of A/P.

So, if I had a baby that had snorted milk out it's nose and I had done my trick, I would monitor him like a hawk for a couple days. If I had a baby that I had NOT done my trick and I knew had to have snorted some down his airways, I would start him on a preventive round of Cipro or Baytril.

[TamiKakes]

Thank you. Very informative.

Any idea on the signs of hypo(hyper)glycimea?

I know if they get it, to put honey or molassis/kyro syrup on thier gums, but how do you know?

I just want to be able to be prepared and know the signs.

Also, I am having such a hard time finding friends/family that have any left over antibotics. Go figure I think I just got rid of my old ones a few months ago. I'm tempted to contact the live doctor chat and say I have something that would require a RX and just get some.....

[Javarat]

Milk in the nose is normally not a critical situation.
They will blow most of it out, and snort the rest in and swallow it.
Just like if you got milk in your own nose.

Aspiration leading to pneumonia is almost always from shooting milk directly into the lungs by
- holding the syringe at the wrong angle (it should be at a 45 degree up angle)
- using too large a syringe (only use a 1ml until they are eating about 12ml per feeding.. then only step up to a 3ml)
- pushing too fast
- or letting the baby suck too fast.

Mostly you never want a direct open path to the lungs, either by feeding at a down angle, or too horizontal.
Also you have to keep your eyes on the baby constantly... Never look away while pressing on the syringe.

Feed the baby in a quiet area where noise will not startle them.

You want to train the baby to suckle.. don't press when they pull away. Reward them by pushing when they take the entire nipple back in.
In a perfect feeding, the baby should be suckling, with you pushing just enough to help them draw the formula out. This results in the baby controlling when they get milk, and almost eliminates choking or aspiration.

[Mel1959]

Thank you. Very informative.

Any idea on the signs of hypo(hyper)glycimea?

I know if they get it, to put honey or molassis/kyro syrup on thier gums, but how do you know?

I just want to be able to be prepared and know the signs.

Also, I am having such a hard time finding friends/family that have any left over antibotics. Go figure I think I just got rid of my old ones a few months ago. I'm tempted to contact the live doctor chat and say I have something that would require a RX and just get some.....

You can order antibiotics online from JoesPetMeds without a Rx.

[TamiKakes]

You can order antibiotics online from JoesPetMeds without a Rx.

What would I order? I can't seem to find baytril on thier site.

[TamiKakes]

Will Enrofloxacin work?

[CritterMom]

Will Enrofloxacin work?

Enrofloxacin IS Baytril! Generic vs. brand name

[TamiKakes]

Enrofloxacin IS Baytril! Generic vs. brand name

Thank you. I saw that right after I asked.

I found a site I can get one tablet for like $0.95 but shipping is $4.99 :facepalm

[CritterMom]

Thank you. I saw that right after I asked.

I found a site I can get one tablet for like $0.95 but shipping is $4.99 :facepalm

LOL. Of course if you ever have a baby with A/P you would pay $499 to get one there...

There are sites that sell these meds marked for "aquarium use" (means nothing but makes it legal to sell without a script here in the US) but you would be buying bottles of 30, 50, 100...so you are paying an average of $30-$45 for bottles of a large number of pills...

[TamiKakes]

Okay, so in the spirit of being proactive and being prepared "just in case" my friend has one pill of Bactrim that expires 11/18. Would this work if needed?

[cava]

I agree but will add, when sucking milk with our mouth (which I always do), do a short, soft little suck. If you use the force of our enormous suck on a tiny baby you could collapse their lungs. I learned this when we would do c-sections and worked with tiny puppies who occasionally needed us to suck face with them, our vets taught us to just use light suction and short, little sucks. I hope I'm making sense here. :grin3

[CritterMom]

Okay, so in the spirit of being proactive and being prepared "just in case" my friend has one pill of Bactrim that expires 11/18. Would this work if needed?

Nope. It is WAY too slow acting for A/P.

The human "version" of Baytril is Cipro (ciprofloxacin) which is the go to drug nowadays for urinary tract infections. Find a girlfriend who gets these and get a single cipro capsule and tuck it away as a just in case.

[TamiKakes]

What about levofloxin?
Apparently this is what my friends have all come up with.

[CritterMom]

Maybe. It sounds like it is a fluoroquinolone, which is the same drug family as the others. I wouldn't know how to dose it. We have a member here who will hopefully chime in.

[TamiKakes]

Ok, so she has an appetite but she does not like the miracle syringes. She tried to put the whole thing down her throat and then once we get to a good place, it's like it isnt coming out fast enough and she gets pissed off and scurries away. She tried 5 times and then gives up and leaves. Trying to hold her she just runs up my arm

She has been scratching and grooming a lot too. And sneezing a bit.

I got the Henry blocks today in the mail and broke it into pieces and put it in with her. She seems to be taking to them and trying to eat them but I dont think shes strong enough to sit up on her back legs like older squirrels do. Shes trying but keeps falling forward.

[Mel1959]

Do you wrap her up in fleece like a burrito to feed her? I find that it keeps them focused on eating and less anxious.

[TamiKakes]

Do you wrap her up in fleece like a burrito to feed her? I find that it keeps them focused on eating and less anxious.

Yes, she crawls right out and latches her claws on my shirt or the outside of the fleece and climbs out.

[TamiKakes]

Couple pics from tonight.
Baby ashlie is weighing in at 161g.

[TamiKakes]

Is it normal for them to fall over when trying to sit and eat the little pieces of the squirrel blocks? I broke it up into little pieces for her, but she always falls over when trying to sit on her back legs like an adult squirrel....

[cava]

Yes, it takes time for them to build muscles and master balancing on their haunches.

[TamiKakes]

Yes, it takes time for them to build muscles and master balancing on their haunches.

Thats what I thought, I just wanted to make sure.
I want to be sure that I find something wrong I can remedy it as fast as possible.

Thank you for reassuring me.

[TamiKakes]

Ok, so I just noticed not a clicking noise, but what sounds like wet breathing....like a stuffy nose sound.
Any advice?

[cava]

You can post a vid to youtube and link to it here if you want us to listen. Any change in activity level, appetite?

[TamiKakes]

You can post a vid to youtube and link to it here if you want us to listen. Any change in activity level, appetite?

I took a video of her being active just now. There are a few sneezes and the a few scratches (shes been doing that a lot too lately, and grooming) seems like the wet breathing is only after she eats.

[TamiKakes]

Video finally uploaded. Not too much, a few sneezes were caught. I'll
try to take one after feeding.
https://youtu.be/NSj8qMl5bRs

[cleolovelee]

Regarding the site where you can get one pill at a time for meds, what is that site? I want to get a couple different antibiotics to keep on hand for future use if needed. So far, I have amoxy but want a couple of options so that I am ready just in case.. What site can you get just the one pill from? Also, I tried JoesPetMeds and all they have is heartworm and flea meds... None of the antibiotics I entered into their search engine generated any results... As for the full bottles for aquarium use, do you have any suggested sites?? I really hate being unprepared and having to scurry around when time is of the essence. I also am well aware that administering any meds is based on weight and only as needed for a particular issue. I just want to get stuff to be prepared.

[Spanky]

Ok, so I just noticed not a clicking noise, but what sounds like wet breathing....like a stuffy nose sound.
Any advice?


I took a video of her being active just now. There are a few sneezes and the a few scratches (shes been doing that a lot too lately, and grooming) seems like the wet breathing is only after she eats.

She looks good, and that wet breathing after eating is common...

[TamiKakes]

Regarding the site where you can get one pill at a time for meds, what is that site? I want to get a couple different antibiotics to keep on hand for future use if needed. So far, I have amoxy but want a couple of options so that I am ready just in case.. What site can you get just the one pill from? Also, I tried JoesPetMeds and all they have is heartworm and flea meds... None of the antibiotics I entered into their search engine generated any results... As for the full bottles for aquarium use, do you have any suggested sites?? I really hate being unprepared and having to scurry around when time is of the essence. I also am well aware that administering any meds is based on weight and only as needed for a particular issue. I just want to get stuff to be prepared.

The site is http://www.allivet.com/mobile/p-3506-enrofloxacin-227-mg-flavored-tab.aspx

I didnt find anything on the site everyone mentioned either. Maybe theres a secret to it I dont know about....

I found this site by googling enroflaxin

[cava]

I just raised my first fox squirrel who snorted like a pig when she was excited. The grays never did that!

[TamiKakes]

I just raised my first fox squirrel who snorted like a pig when she was excited. The grays never did that!

So maybe it's just a fox thing? Hmm. This is my first ever. We primarily have foxes in the area, greys and blacks are very slowly starting to make thier ways into the area.

[cleolovelee]

The Allvet website requires a prescription from a vet. How did you get around that?