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mgeorge
03-03-2018, 04:52 PM
Hi all!

Here is the beginning of my journey with Chunky Charles:
Link to original thread when I first found him: https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?59544-Injured-adult-squirrel-possible-head-injury-and-or-internal-injury
Video of his condition when first found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag-QDoijICc

I found Chunky Charles on 1/10/18. Actually, my dogs found him after he fell out of the tree. It turned out he had already taken a greater fall at some point. He was not in good shape. With help from this forum (huge shoutout to sophiesquirrel), I took him to a vet and got him on some meds (bactrim & metacam). A rehabber friend I took him to right when I found him gave him a steroid injection so the vet said another one wasn't necessary.


Fast forward to his current condition:
Video 1: https://youtu.be/a5NjS_GicnE
Video 2: https://youtu.be/0TeZzzXsmpI

The videos are the best way to show his behavior. He can climb and hold food and run around like a normal squirrel. His issue is balance. He cannot stand upright holding food without falling over.

I know that Chunkers isn't ready for release in his current state. However, I have treated him as a wild squirrel to avoid imprinting in hopes that he will recover. It has been almost 2 months for Chunkers and I am curious to hear from everyone with experience, especially neuro experience. I've been told different things by several different rehabbers (mainly either that he needs more time, he needs to be euthanized, or he should be considered NR and transitioned to pet life).

I understand that neuro damage is tricky and can take time and that there is really no one size fits all solution. However, I do not want to start treating Chunkers as a pet and robbing him of his chance to be wild again (if there is a chance). I also do not want to continue treating him as wild if he won't improve enough to become releasable. I know that nobody can really be sure what will happen and he may be an outlier who recovers completely. I really just want as many opinions as possible from those with experience so I can make the best decision for Chunkers' continued care. I have a feeling that the best answer is that "only time will tell," but if that's the case, how much time is reasonable?


Current diet: Henry's Blocks (even though he has stopped eating them) and a wide variety of lettuces & greens, vegetables, fruits, nuts, etc. (nuts and fruits more limited as treats)

Also, fast forward and assume he is NR and needs to transition to pet life. Is it possible for him to live a good life in a home with 5 dogs with a high prey drive? Or should I be looking for a way to get him to someone who can give him an environment without dogs?

Thank you all!

HRT4SQRLS
03-03-2018, 07:01 PM
You asked for opinions so I'll share mine for what it's worth.
I doubt that he will ever be releasable. More than likely he has regained as much function as he ever will. Of course, as you said, only time will tell.

With that in mind, I would most definitely start handling him and transitioning him to be a pet. I have released several healthy pet squirrels for people. People change their mind about the 'pet squirrel' thing, life situations change, etc so occasionally people seek out help to release pets that are a year or more older. The pets that I have released have done fine after release. It might take a little longer but even pets will transition to being free in the trees. Even if your friend was to improve to the point of being releasable being a friendly pet squirrel would not disqualify him from being released.

The opposite is not always true. Although it is possible, transitioning a wild to being a pet is much more difficult. Many here have done it but it comes with challenges I'm sure. I would hope for the best but plan for the worst. I would start handling him.

The dog thing is a big problem. Unless you can provide an area separate from the dogs, it sounds like an accident waiting to happen. I'm sure the dogs are just waiting for a lapse. Unfortunately, homes for non releases are limited so are probably his best hope.

By the way, he is gorgeous.

mgeorge
03-08-2018, 10:44 AM
Thank you for sharing your opinion. It’s exacrly what I’m looking for and hoping to get as many more opinions as I can.

Mel1959
03-08-2018, 12:35 PM
I agree, I would start handling him. Obviously some time has passed since you got him. I don’t know if too much time has passed to give prednisone on a daily basis or not, and if it would help at this point. I found it to work very well with my girl that took a fall. She was on it daily for several weeks and several more weeks as I weaned her off. She made a full recovery. When I thought she was going to be a NR I began to handle her to gain her trust. Now that she’s matured and can be released she wilded up all on her own.

Your little guy is precious....even when he topples over. :blowkiss