Five week old squirrel with pneumonia

[TG715]

Hi

I have a five week old baby squirrel ( I think because his eyes are opened and walk fairly quick) with pneumonia symptoms. I am getting Baytril or Cipro for him tomorrow but I don’t know how to make into dosages for him. Can anyone please give me instructions ? He weighs 90 grams. He been having white musics from his nose and making sneezing noises. I really appreciate if anyone can help me. Thank you

[Spanky]

Hi

I have a five week old baby squirrel ( I think because his eyes are opened and walk fairly quick) with pneumonia symptoms. I am getting Baytril or Cipro for him tomorrow but I don’t know how to make into dosages for him. Can anyone please give me instructions ? He weighs 90 grams. He been having white musics from his nose and making sneezing noises. I really appreciate if anyone can help me. Thank you

When you listen to his breathing, does he have a "clicking" noise with every breath? When you know the strength of the Cipro or Baytril, post it so someone
can help dose a 90 gram squirrel.

[TG715]

Yes he does making clicking sound. Sometimes I hear crumbling sound inside of him too. Baytril should be 15 mg and it’s going to be a pill. I am not sure about Ciro yet . I don’t know how much of the pill I need to crush and mix how much water require to mix with the crush pills. I just want to know ahead so I can give him antibiotics as soon as possible .

[cava]

Hey there. Baytril doesn't come in a 15 mg tablet unless someone compounded it somewhere. Just a heads up so you can double check.

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[Nancy in New York]

What formula are you feeding?
What size syringe are you using?
Has he aspirated?
Here's a link to a Baby Squirrel Guide.
It's 6 brief pages long with the next button
on the top right hand side.
It's very informative.
https://www.henryspets.com/baby-squirrel-care/

[TG715]

I am not currently residing in America . I am in Thailand so things aren’t
Too similar as America. We don’t have things like Henry Blocks here, although I wish it have. I feed him with Esbilac.

I have upload the photo of Baytril. Hopefully you guys can see it. I’m sorry if I sound rush because I am in a different time zone. I worry if I respond late , everyone will be sleeping already.

[TG715]

This is the second squirrel I am raising but first time experience this situation. I am scare and worry

[Nancy in New York]

I will dose this through a pm.
Do you have the pills now?
Do you have a 1 cc syringe?

[cava]

Good, thanks for checking. Safety first! Hope your baby gets well soon.

[Nancy in New York]

Almost forgot to post, dosing sent at 6:19.

[TG715]

Thank you so much for the fast reply. Right now it is 8:20 morning. I am waiting until 10 to get to antibiotics. Thank you all. I will update later after I try the first dose on him. You guys are Rocky’s angel.

[TG715]

I have given Rocky his first dosage. Went through so much frustration just to get the Baytril. He took it without any problem. But it is suppose to make him drowsy? He just fall asleep within five minutes on my hand. Thank everyone once again

[Nancy in New York]

I have given Rocky his first dosage. Went through so much frustration just to get the Baytril. He took it without any problem. But it is suppose to make him drowsy? He just fall asleep within five minutes on my hand. Thank everyone once again

No it shouldn't make him drowsy.
How is Rocky this morning?

[TG715]

Rocky is doing much better. Still have some clickin and wheezing sound but he’s more active and eaten more. Thank you Nancy and everyone. I really appreciated your super fast response and willing to help me save my Rocky. Hopefully he will fully recover soon

[Nancy in New York]

Rocky is doing much better. Still have some clickin and wheezing sound but he’s more active and eaten more. Thank you Nancy and everyone. I really appreciated your super fast response and willing to help me save my Rocky. Hopefully he will fully recover soon

This is a great update. Keep up the antibiotics as instructed.
Baytril is a very fast acting antibiotic, so this is really great news.:w00t

[TG715]

I’m just curious. How long would it take for him to fully recover? One week?

[Nancy in New York]

I’m just curious. How long would it take for him to fully recover? One week?

As I wrote, keep him on this for 5-7 days.
They recover differently depending on the severity.
How is he this morning?

[TG715]

As I wrote, keep him on this for 5-7 days.
They recover differently depending on the severity.
How is he this morning?

Nancy, Rocky was doing fine in the morning. But all of a sudden in the afternoon, he won’t stop sneezing. He’s eating and playing ok. Just the sneezing gotten worse. What should I do?

[Mel1959]

Does it seem like he’s trying to sneeze and clear his nose of mucous?

[TG715]

Does it seem like he’s trying to sneeze and clear his nose of mucous?

Yes

[redwuff]

I am concerned because aspiration pneumonia usually does not produce mucus and sneezing. I am wondering if you have 2 different things going on at a time!?!

The most important thing to treat him for right now is pneumonia with the Baytril . Can you post a picture of the mucus or of your squirrel? Or better yet, a brief video of his sneezing?

[island rehabber]

I agree with redwuff -- not at all typical for aspiration pneumonia to present with sneezing.
I've had babies who sneezed incessantly for a few days, then recovered fully. A vet visit produced no diagnosis except "probably a virus"... on the other hand, bordatella can also include sneezing and that needs to be treated with doxycycline.
If any blood shows up in the mucus, that is a tellatale sign of bordatella.

[Mel1959]

The little ones that I had that had mucous and discharge were treated with Baytril and Clavamox stacked. I also nebulized with saline to help thin the mucous. A vaporizer or steam will help loosen the mucous, too. They recovered.

[TG715]

His mucus are white. I will try to take a photo of it. But it is going to be hard because it barely come out of his nose. Should I purchase another type of medicine for him too? Or just wait for a week? His sneezing was reduce on the first day he took Baytril. Just suddenly in the afternoon today he won’t stop sneezing. Otherwise everything else seem normal. Also he like to hide in the dark .. is this normal ? My first squirrel never hide in the dark except sleeping. This baby squirrel makes me worry because his behavior isn’t similar to my first one.

[TG715]

Rocky

[cava]

Babies this age would be in an enclosed nest and momma wouldn't let them come out yet. He probably innately understands that he's safer hiding. Also sometimes animals hide when they don't feel well. It's a way to protect themselves. Let him bury or hide when you aren't handling him. It will give him a sense of security and he needs extra rest if he is recovering from illness.

He is absolutely beautiful!:Love_Icon

[redwuff]

If another drug is needed, it would be Clavamox as Mel stated above. She went through a mucous discharge with hurricane babies from last year. Stacked Baytril and Clavamox did the trick.

Babies at 5.5 weeks should nestled under layers of fleece and mostly sleeping eating and pooping. Your baby is beautiful. I am always curious what squirrels in other parts of the world look like.

[TG715]

The best picture I can take of his mucus from his nose. Sorry not a clear photo at all

[TG715]

Here is a photo of my first squirrel, Rambo. He is 8 months old. When Rambo was five week old, he was already twice the size as Rocky. I guess they are two different type of squirrel. I don’t even know what type they are. But I love these two boys so much

[Mel1959]

A teeny, tiny drop of children’s neo-synephrine can be put in the nose to help dry up the mucous and open the nasal passage. Also if you have on hand a Rx opthamalic solution that has a steroid in it, a teeny, tiny drop of it can also be put in the nose. The steroid reduces swelling, too. Just be sure it’s a tiny drop. You don’t want to choke him.

[cava]

Rocky is very cute as well. Be very careful allowing Rocky to be around that baby. One bite could kill him.

Keep up the great job you're doing!

[Nancy in New York]

Rocky is very cute as well. Be very careful allowing Rocky to be around that baby. One bite could kill him.

Keep up the great job you're doing!

:goodpost
We don't know what we're dealing with
with the mucus.
If there is any concern at all that this might be bordatella,
that's very contagious.

[TG715]

Rocky is very cute as well. Be very careful allowing Rocky to be around that baby. One bite could kill him.

Keep up the great job you're doing!

That photo was taken when Rocky wasn’t sick yet. Ever since he sick, I have kept two of them apart and won’t let the big one go near him.

By the way, thank you all for the advises. I will wait for one more day to see if his sneezing and mucus reduce or not. If not, I will try Clavamox. I might have to bother Nancy again to help me with the doses . His clicking already has reduced. Now it’s just his sneezing bothers me

[Nancy in New York]

That photo was taken when Rocky wasn’t sick yet. Ever since he sick, I have kept two of them apart and won’t let the big one go near him.

By the way, thank you all for the advises. I will wait for one more day to see if his sneezing and mucus reduce or not. If not, I will try Clavamox. I might have to bother Nancy again to help me with the doses . His clicking already has reduced. Now it’s just his sneezing bothers me

Never a bother, just let me know when you need me. :hug
Just out of curiosity, have you checked his teeth. I really doubt at this age, they are long, but
just double check, OK? Thanks.

[TG715]

His bottom two teeth already came out. When he was sick the first day, I check and realize it was long so I trim it

[TG715]

Btw is there a human version of the Clavamox? Is Amoxicillin the same?

[stepnstone]

Btw is there a human version of the Clavamox? Is Amoxicillin the same?
Not entirely.
Clavamox is a brand name for amoxicillin + clavulanic acid.
This is in fact an antibiotic that is also prescribed for humans.
Augmentin is a Generic drug name for Amoxicillin/clavulanic acid.

[Nancy in New York]

His bottom two teeth already came out. When he was sick the first day, I check and realize it was long so I trim it

Do you think it was long enough to hit the roof of his mouth?
Is there anyway you can take a photo?
It's unusal that a 5 week old would need their teeth trimmed.
Was it only one, or both?

[cava]

Can you post a photo of the teeth?

Edit: Duh, Nancy just asked that. Sorry N.

[TG715]

Sorry I am not able to take a photo of his teeth. He’s too active now and won’t stop moving. I will upload it when I get the chance to take it. His teeth and nails actually grow pretty fast

[TG715]

Not entirely.
Clavamox is a brand name for amoxicillin + clavulanic acid.
This is in fact an antibiotic that is also prescribed for humans.
Augmentin is a Generic drug name for Amoxicillin/clavulanic acid.


How many Augmentin pills would I need? And how strong (mg)?

[Nancy in New York]

How many Augmentin pills would I need? And how strong (mg)?

If you can get a few that will give you extra just in case.
We can break down any mg that you have.
Just need the weight of your little one in grams, and the strength in mg
of the Augmentin.

[TG715]

I have upload the sound Rocky has been making that sound like sneezing. Hopefully someone will know what it is exactly. This sneezing sound haven’t been improve for the last two days

https://youtu.be/byiHomEQk7E

[TG715]

I have Augmentin but it is in powder form. Can someone help me with the doses? Rocky now weigh 100 gram. Thank you

[cava]

Post up close photos of all of the instructions for reconstituting the powder to liquid and the strength once reconstituted.

For example, 50 mg of Augmentin per X ml.

Need to see that information for someone to help you with dosing.

[Nancy in New York]

Post up close photos of all of the instructions for reconstituting the powder to liquid and the strength once reconstituted.

For example, 50 mg of Augmentin per X ml.

Need to see that information for someone to help you with dosing.

Thank you, I was just going to ask how much water it says to reconstitution the whole bottle.
As cava mentioned if you can take some close up photos that will help us a lot.

[Nancy in New York]

Dosing sent.
Thank you HRT4SQRLS for finding the info on the internet. :w00t

[TG715]

I feed Rocky with Augmentin and Baytril yesterday night and today. But today he is not acting normally. He is not willing to move. He look tire and weak. He keep twitching while he sleep. Did I do something wrong ? I have follow the instructions of the doses to give it to him. The good news is his sneezing has improved

[Nancy in New York]

I feed Rocky with Augmentin and Baytril yesterday night and today. But today he is not acting normally. He is not willing to move. He look tire and weak. He keep twitching while he sleep. Did I do something wrong ? I have follow the instructions of the doses to give it to him. The good news is his sneezing has improved

Give him extra hydration in between feedings.
Remember to keep them well hydrated when on any meds.
Are you giving probiotics 2 hours prior or after dosing
the antibiotics?

[LR]

It may take him awhile to start feeling better but your already seeing improvement if the sneezing/coughing has has subsided. Keep up with your dosing schedule and try to keep him well hydrated. Prayers for a speedy recovery!

[TG715]

Give him extra hydration in between feedings.
Remember to keep them well hydrated when on any meds.
Are you giving probiotics 2 hours prior or after dosing
the antibiotics?


Yes. I gave him yogurt

[TG715]

It may take him awhile to start feeling better but your already seeing improvement if the sneezing/coughing has has subsided. Keep up with your dosing schedule and try to keep him well hydrated. Prayers for a speedy recovery!

When he was only taking Baytril, he would still move and climb. Just today, he is not willing to move at all. Now night time, he still not willing to move. He would just lay in one spot for hours if I don’t budge him

[Nancy in New York]

When he was only taking Baytril, he would still move and climb. Just today, he is not willing to move at all. Now night time, he still not willing to move. He would just lay in one spot for hours if I don’t budge him

Double check the clavamox dose, and post it here, ok?
He's 100 grams correct?
I wonder if there is some sort of reaction to the Clavamox
since it appears to have happened right after he was started on it.
I would discontinue the use for now until we figure this out.
Hydrate him, even if it's drop by drop.

[TG715]

Double check the clavamox dose, and post it here, ok?
He's 100 grams correct?
I wonder if there is some sort of reaction to the Clavamox
since it appears to have happened right after he was started on it.
I would discontinue the use for now until we figure this out.
Hydrate him, even if it's drop by drop.

Yes he’s 100 grams. I think I will stop using the medicine. I just realized he has vomit some yogurt on his blanket. I think it was from last night and I didn’t notice. Now he wants to vomit again. Seems like having trouble breathing through nose. He’s breathing while opening his mouth too. He don’t want me to touch him and just hide inside his blanket. Did I make his situation more worse?

[Nancy in New York]

Yes he’s 100 grams. I think I will stop using the medicine. I just realized he has vomit some yogurt on his blanket. I think it was from last night and I didn’t notice. Now he wants to vomit again. Seems like having trouble breathing through nose. He’s breathing while opening his mouth too. He don’t want me to touch him and just hide inside his blanket. Did I make his situation more worse?

Definitely stop the Clavamox.
What was the dose that you gave him.
Are you sure that it was .032 like
the photo of the syringe that I pm'd you?
Is he taking any kind of hydration?

[TG715]

Definitely stop the Clavamox.
What was the dose that you gave him.
Are you sure that it was .032 like
the photo of the syringe that I pm'd you?
Is he taking any kind of hydration?


Yes. I always double check the dosage before I give him. He didn’t have any reaction taking Baytril. But seems like his body can’t accept the Augmentin. Two hours before his medicine time, I give him yogurt. Then I give him water to drink to keep him hydrate. I didn’t give him any dairy product once he take his medicine. Then give him yogurt two hours later.

[cava]

What kind of yogurt are you giving him?

Can you list the ingredients?

[TG715]

What kind of yogurt are you giving him?

Can you list the ingredients?

I give him Dutchie Bio Yogurt original flavor

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/187947395

That’s the link of the ingredients of the yogurt.

Talking about yogurt .. can squirrel eat Greek yogurt ?

[cava]

It has 15 g of sugar so I assume it doesn't have artificial sweeteners in it, but it doesn't actually list the ingredients and I was unable to find it.

How much are you giving at a time?

I don't know about Greek yogurt. I'll let someone else answer that.

I'm asking because you said he was vomiting and you are giving yogurt and new antibiotics. Nancy asked about the antibiotics but I thought I'd double check the type and quantity of the yogurt to see if that's causing trouble.

How's he doing now?

[Mel1959]

Greek yogurt is ok. No artificial sweeteners and full fat if available.

[TG715]

It has 15 g of sugar so I assume it doesn't have artificial sweeteners in it, but it doesn't actually list the ingredients and I was unable to find it.

How much are you giving at a time?

I don't know about Greek yogurt. I'll let someone else answer that.

I'm asking because you said he was vomiting and you are giving yogurt and new antibiotics. Nancy asked about the antibiotics but I thought I'd double check the type and quantity of the yogurt to see if that's causing trouble.

How's he doing now?

I’m so sorry . I got myself mix I yesterday. I just post up the nutrition instead of the ingredients. I didn’t know what I was thinking. The ingredients are in Thai and I can’t fond an English version online. Sorry I can’t read Thai yet. I am in the process of learning it. I give him about 3cc each time

Rocky is back to his normal self today since I stop giving him the Augmentin. He is still on Baytril. However his sneezing sound still exists except it has reduce. I want to try to give him Augmentin again but I scare so I just chose to stop. He still need to be Baytril for two more days. Hopefully it will help him clear his nose and stop the sneezing sound.

[Nancy in New York]

I’m so sorry . I got myself mix I yesterday. I just post up the nutrition instead of the ingredients. I didn’t know what I was thinking. The ingredients are in Thai and I can’t fond an English version online. Sorry I can’t read Thai yet. I am in the process of learning it. I give him about 3cc each time

Rocky is back to his normal self today since I stop giving him the Augmentin. He is still on Baytril. However his sneezing sound still exists except it has reduce. I want to try to give him Augmentin again but I scare so I just chose to stop. He still need to be Baytril for two more days. Hopefully it will help him clear his nose and stop the sneezing sound.


I'm glad Rocky's back to normal.
I've seen once on the board that a squirrel had a reaction to
Clavamox/Augmentin, though I forget which thread or even how
the reaction presented itself.
Keep us posted.

[TG715]

I'm glad Rocky's back to normal.
I've seen once on the board that a squirrel had a reaction to
Clavamox/Augmentin, though I forget which thread or even how
the reaction presented itself.
Keep us posted.

Rocky’s nose still seem stuffy. Now my other squirrel is getting sick too. I have started a new post regarding about my other squirrel. Can you guys continue to help me? Thank you

[Nancy in New York]

Rocky’s nose still seem stuffy. Now my other squirrel is getting sick too. I have started a new post regarding about my other squirrel. Can you guys continue to help me? Thank you

I just responded to your other thread.
I will be on and off the board today, but I'm
sure others can help you as well.

[TG715]

Thank you Nancy

Tomorrow is Rocky’s last day on Baytril. His stuffy nose and sneezing still exist. Is there another type of medicine that he can try since his body can’t accept Augmentin