Please help me guys

[Simona1994]

Please help me guys.. My squirrel have MBD.
Treatment on good way now,but he dont moving tail...
Im verry afraid, or its good or no :(( cause back legs he try stand normal... We giving for him calcium with vitamin D.. But tail not move... I hear that tail verry important for him :(

P.s: Sorry that i make mystakes with English language

[island rehabber]

Simona, don't worry your English is fine. Go to this link,and begin the MBD protocol IMMEDIATELY.. It is your only hope of curing your squirrel of this deadly disease. Start now! And do not give him Vitamin D -- it is toxic for squirrels when given in human doses!

https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?32122-MBD-Treatment

[SophieSquirrel]

Hello my squirrel have MBD ,treatment on good way, but he not move tail... :(( Im afraid, please or its good or no?

Simona, I got your PM and sent a reply. PLS give details on here about your squirrel: red, gray, age, specifics about what's going on, and if you have vet support in the UK. Island Rehabber or other senior members can talk you through this.

Here is THE diet for pet squirrels: https://www.henryspets.com/healthy-diet-for-pet-squirrels/

[Simona1994]

We rescue little squirrel ,United Kingdom veterinary for me say: That we dont know anything about squirrel and we killing him! Yes its not illegal
Im a lot of cry... Cause its my life ,its my children :Love_Icon
I love him so much!
He healthy,just We have MBD...
We treatment with Calcium and vitamin D3
Treatment on good way,but he dont like vegetable..... Its verry important for him ...just tomato,avokado..... He verry like Fruits... But fruits needs sometimes... ;/ Verry difficult with diet,when for him need calcium.. And if you know more info please write please... I read everything about squirrel,but he don’t like this, don’t like this..... :(
Tail sometimes to get up,but just sometimes..
Its my life,my everything.. My boss’s :hug

[Simona1994]

I don’t given a nuts , just sometimes.
My baby growth for adult :Love_Icon
He 3month with us :)
And 3week before for him start seizures with paralyzed..
and Now he try stand up on he legs.
He not distress, he happy with Me...
I him mum And i want just healthy him

[CritterMom]

Simona,

Squirrels and rats have similar food needs. This helps because while you won't find squirrel food in a pet store, people keep rats as pets and the pet stores do sell food for them.

You want to look for rat food, but not just any rat food. Do not buy food that is full of corn and seeds. You want the kind that has been manufactured kind of like dry dog food. The pieces of food look like little round rods about an inch long and about as big around as your finger. If you look at them you cannot see any seeds or corn or anything else - just a bag of these little "rods".

He probably will not like them, BUT we can help you to use them as part of a recipe for food he WILL like. They have vitamins and minerals in them that you can't really get just feeding him vegetables. So go to the pet store and see if they have anything like this.

And do not worry about your English. I don't know what your native language is but I bet none of US could do as well trying to write it as you are with English! You have all WE need to try to help you - you have a squirrel you love and he needs help. We can work through any language difficulties together.

[Chickenlegs]

Can you find calcium without the vitamin D? If you can find a good rat block it will have vitamin D in it. How are you giving your squirrel calcium and in what quantities? MBD takes months to reverse and the key to keeping your darling healthy is diet. CM is exactly right--your English is full of love for a special little squirrel. We speak squirrel!

[Simona1994]

I give ZOLCAL-D liquid calcium and vitamin D3 supplement. But i ordered now calcium carbonate, cause need without D3? Yes?
Ok thank you for more information im try find rat blocks... Cause unhappy but we can ordering in Uk Healty blocks...
i really hope so that i can help for my beautiful boy :glomp
But we have second problem , he sometimes shake head! And i dont understand why...
im verry afraid cause in England no illegal, i call everywhere,he nothing know about squirrels! Im so sad, cause for me dasntmatter or its paralyzed or its never can’t will be normal! Im take care for him always :Love_Icon

[Simona1994]

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[TubeDriver]

The head shaking could be a seizure due to the MBD! KEEP UP WITH THE MBD PROTOCOL!!! If you see this, try putting some molasses on his gums and lips and make sure he is well hydrated with water!

You should order some rodent blocks. He will not like them at first but he will start to eat them after a few days if you do not feed him other things. They should be the foundation of his diet. You can give veggies but nuts and fruit are treats that should only be given a few times per week (after he has eaten his rodent block)

You can order it online at Amazon UK:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Supreme-Petfoods-Science-Selective-Food/dp/B007ZYR9S0

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oxbow-Regal-Rat-Food-3-Pound/dp/B000GABM1K





I give ZOLCAL-D liquid calcium and vitamin D3 supplement. But i ordered now calcium carbonate, cause need without D3? Yes?
Ok thank you for more information im try find rat blocks... Cause unhappy but we can ordering in Uk Healty blocks...
i really hope so that i can help for my beautiful boy :glomp
But we have second problem , he sometimes shake head! And i dont understand why...
im verry afraid cause in England no illegal, i call everywhere,he nothing know about squirrels! Im so sad, cause for me dasntmatter or its paralyzed or its never can’t will be normal! Im take care for him always :Love_Icon

[CritterMom]

I wish you could order the block we have here but the shipping costs would be just insane. He is very cute!! What is his name?

You were able to order calcium carbonate without vitamin D? That is great! Is it a powder or are they pills of some sort?

He was young when you first got him, right? Did you feed him formula? What kind? Do you have access to a powdered puppy formula? I know Royal Kanin is sold in the UK and they make something called "Babydog" formula. A powdered puppy milk replacement formula would be another good "ingredient" for making some food he will like and will help him so he gets over MBD and then never gets it again. You can look for it while you look for the rat food.

[Simona1994]

Thank you so much. I ordering this one..
We found him when he have only 5week, we given for him esbilac formula...
He was healthy,but i think so we little so much given for him nuuts, large pieces food and anything..
I ordered calcium carbonate powder without vitamin D.. Its all right ?
He now its big boy :)) Not a baby! But we hope so that really help for him, we do everything!

[Simona1994]

Name: Neil :glomp296940

[Simona1994]

The head shaking could be a seizure due to the MBD! KEEP UP WITH THE MBD PROTOCOL!!! If you see this, try putting some molasses on his gums and lips and make sure he is well hydrated with water!

You should order some rodent blocks. He will not like them at first but he will start to eat them after a few days if you do not feed him other things. They should be the foundation of his diet. You can give veggies but nuts and fruit are treats that should only be given a few times per week (after he has eaten his rodent block)

You can order it online at Amazon UK:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Supreme-Petfoods-Science-Selective-Food/dp/B007ZYR9S0

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oxbow-Regal-Rat-Food-3-Pound/dp/B000GABM1K
What you mean mollasse? What its this?

[Simona1994]

I wish you could order the block we have here but the shipping costs would be just insane. He is very cute!! What is his name?

You were able to order calcium carbonate without vitamin D? That is great! Is it a powder or are they pills of some sort?

He was young when you first got him, right? Did you feed him formula? What kind? Do you have access to a powdered puppy formula? I know Royal Kanin is sold in the UK and they make something called "Babydog" formula. A powdered puppy milk replacement formula would be another good "ingredient" for making some food he will like and will help him so he gets over MBD and then never gets it again. You can look for it while you look for the rat food.
You mean what again for him need give formula?

[TubeDriver]

Molasses. Used to cook and flavor food? It has electrolytes that can help to stop a seizure. During a seizure, rub a little bit on your finger and rub it onto his lips.



What you mean mollasse? What its this?

[CritterMom]

You mean what again for him need give formula?

No. If you can find the rat blocks you will probably have to use them to MAKE him a food he likes because he probably won't just eat them for you. They aren't real tasty. One of the things you can add to your recipe is the puppy formula.

BUT!! If you have some left over from when he was small, mix some up and offer it in a little dish and see if he will eat it.

[Simona1994]

Okey. Im order your link, from amazon.
My squirrel dont have seizures anymore.. just when he start first week..
But i dont know if we doing everything allright, cause in my pet store we dont gave electrolytes , minerals... Im everything purchase in ebay..

Im just afraid , cause verry long term treatment.. and he just sometimes stand legs near himself... :/ tail sometimes get up, but no more..

[LR]

This is Simonas squirrel

https://youtu.be/8fJ2NSS0y4M

[LR]

Simonas 2nd video

https://youtu.be/__ZFQ_Eez-o

[TubeDriver]

Please continue with the MBD treatment and get him on a good diet (mainly rodent block and veggies).

It is the ONLY way to help him.

It will take several months before he really recovers but right now is the critical period!

He still has some limited use of his rear legs, it is not too late to save him!




Okey. Im order your link, from amazon.
My squirrel dont have seizures anymore.. just when he start first week..
But i dont know if we doing everything allright, cause in my pet store we dont gave electrolytes , minerals... Im everything purchase in ebay..

Im just afraid , cause verry long term treatment.. and he just sometimes stand legs near himself... :/ tail sometimes get up, but no more..

[LR]

This is molasses. It is used mainly for sweetening baked goods. Sometimes seizures are caused by low blood sugar and putting syrup of some kind on their tongue will help them recover.

[Diggie's Friend]

We have that one locally; it is the "Full Flavor" that tastes better, as it is sweeter due to its lower iron content than that of the Blackstrap Mollasses, which is a bit on the bitter side. Save for those that suffer from anemia, the healthier source is the full flavor, know as "2nd or Dark Molasses, which is made from the 2nd boiling reduction. Blackstrap Mollasses, also dark dark in color, is made from the 3rd boiling reduction.




LynnRobbins wrote: Sometimes seizures are caused by low blood sugar and putting syrup of some kind on their tongue will help them recover.

Very true; seisures also cause bloodsugar to drop further, and are known to lower magnesium also.
Magnesium in the whole diet in closer ratio with Calcium, is best supported by at least a (3:1) Ca:Mg ratio; which is even more crucial to support in squirrels with neuro issues, that are more susceptable to having seisures.

[LR]

These are all types of rodent block that the squirrels seem to do well eating.

[LR]

Some squirrels are given what we call "boo balls". Sometimes it's because the squirrel won't eat the block plain, can't chew the hard block or as a way to get extra calcium and vitamins they need.

Making boo balls is easy and starts with grinding the block into small pieces or powder.

There are as many recipes for boo balls as you can imagine. Most include ground block, powdered formula, ground nuts, and enough fruit/vegetable puree as necessary to make the dough hold together and be able to roll it into balls.

If you decide to try making them, let us know and we can post some recipies for you.

[Simona1994]

I give for him, o,10mg 5time on day its = 500miligrams.. Its true? But i dont know what vitamins for him need ? I order rat eat for him Selective a balanced diet for rat... im nervous allways cause we give normal,treatment its good way,but now he cant stund up on back legs he legs its dicky...(weak)

[LR]

Home > Products > Science Selective Rat
Science Selective Rat

Recommended by vets, a nutritionally complete and balanced diet that perfectly suits rats to help keep them healthy and well.

It includes fruits such as apple and blackcurrant for their antioxidant properties and high vitamin content to promote optimum health. It is also high in polyunsaturated fatty acids and low in both saturated fatty acids and cholesterol to assist cardiovascular and circulatory health. Selective is specially formulated to help keep you pet’s skin and coat in great condition.

But it is what we don’t put in to Selective that is important too…
Have you checked the label on your rats’ food lately? Take a look, because some rat foods contain molasses or syrup or other sugary ingredients. This extra sugar in a rat’s diet can lead to overeating and obesity. It can also lead to dental problems too.

Feeding Selective for the first time?
If you are feeding Selective to your rats for the first time, make sure you change from one food to another, gradually over 10-14 days. At first, you should mix a small amount of Selective with your rats’ current food, slowly decreasing the old diet, whilst gradually increasing the quantity of Selective. A sudden change in diet can cause digestive upsets – even when you are changing to a better quality diet – so take care!

If your rats are used to a sugary diet, you may find it takes them a while to change, but persevere as it will help to benefit your rats’ health in the long term.

And don’t forget fresh water! Your rats should have an unlimited supply at all times.

Helps sustain healthy skin & coat
Zero Added Sugar
Rich in Natural Ingredients
Prevents Selective Feeding
Balanced diet
No artificial colours
Highly palatable
Helps maintain a healthy heart
Promotes dental wear
Supports digestive health
Suitable for all breeds
COMPOSITION

Wheat, soybean meal, barley, oats, soya oil, dried apples, dried blackcurrants, wheat feed, limestone flour, salt.

NUTRITIONAL ADDITIVES/Kg

Vitamin A 15000 IU, Vitamin D³ 1500 IU, Ferrous sulphate monohydrate 152mg, Calcium iodate anhydrous 1.5 mg, Copper sulphate pentahydrate 20 mg, Manganese oxide 38 mg, Zinc oxide 62 mg, Sodium selenite 0.2 mg.

ANALYTICAL CONSTITUENTS

Protein 14.0%, Crude fibre 4.0%, Fat content 4.0%, Inorganic matter 5.0%, Calcium 0.6%, Phosphorus 0.4%.

[LR]

I posted the ingredient list for the food you are giving him so that other eyes could give you an opinion on the feed also.

[Simona1994]

And we got for him calcium carbonate but today is 3day how he use ,but all day he sleep again... He weak... Im not understand whyyyy :( :(

[Simona1994]

What i should to do??? Im dont understand why hes not active... :((

[Simona1994]

Whe have this one297060...

[CritterMom]

What i should to do??? Im dont understand why hes not active... :((

Please make sure he is drinking plenty. You can give him water through a syringe just like he used to take formula. If he doesn't like it, you can add a TINY bit of sugar or honey to make it just slightly sweet. Try warming it up before you give it.

Do you have this calcium powder right now?

Does it tell you how to measure it out? You want him to have 500 mg per day right now, but not all at once - a little bit all through the day until he is done.

[Simona1994]

Yes i got right now, cause before we give liquid with vitamin D.
Big problems is that my Boy don’t like water...
he dont want drink anymore...

Please make sure he is drinking plenty. You can give him water through a syringe just like he used to take formula. If he doesn't like it, you can add a TINY bit of sugar or honey to make it just slightly sweet. Try warming it up before you give it.

Do you have this calcium powder right now?

Does it tell you how to measure it out? You want him to have 500 mg per day right now, but not all at once - a little bit all through the day until he is done.

[Simona1994]

Can you explain why need water? Cause he dont drink water, im try add sugar, honey... nothing! he dont want..

[LR]

Crittermom, I don't think the dosing on the calcium is right. Can you take a look at post #26? My math isn't what it used to be but this doesn't sound right.

[Simona1994]

Can you explain please, why need water?

[CritterMom]

Crittermom, I don't think the dosing on the calcium is right. Can you take a look at post #26? My math isn't what it used to be but this doesn't sound right.

I don't know the strength of the calcium. Am I missing something? I want to see the serving size info to know what we are dealing with.

[CritterMom]

Can you explain please, why need water?

When they don't feel good, they stop drinking water - and it makes them MUCH SICKER. He needs fluids even if he doesn't want them. Keep trying different things like sugar or fruit juice in the water, try warming it up, keep trying. Getting dehydrated is really bad and it can happen fast.

[LR]

Simona, water keeps all of his organs functioning. He has to drink even if you need to syringe feed it to him. Will he still drink formula? The formula would be even better than just water if he will drink it.

[LR]

Simona, can you post a picture of the back of the calcium bag please? We need to see the amount of calcium and serving size along with any directions they printed...

[LR]

Crittermom, it's made from ground limestone and is essentially pure calcium from what I am reading. The only directions I can find say to to dust or sprinkle on food.

[Simona1994]

Im try everything,he dont want cause before we give water with fluids and he smart dont want anymore..
On calcium bag only this label..
and im confused... Im try everything, but he dont like water,he dont drink... :((

About formula, we finished when for him was 12week..



Simona, can you post a picture of the back of the calcium bag please? We need to see the amount of calcium and serving size along with any directions they printed...

[Simona1994]

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[LR]

Do you have a syringe still that you could feed him water from? Do you have Tums? The medicine people get for upset/acid stomachs? If you do try feeding him one, they have calcium in them. They usually will eat the berry flavored one straight from the package.

You have got to get water into him and get more calcium into him.

Is he eating anything? Maybe try grapes ar berries to get fluid into him. Try a piece of ice. Some squirrels will eat pieces of ice cubes.

[LR]

I found this dosing information on a different brand of the limestone flour.

39.4% elemental calcium – 10g contains 3.94g of Calcium.

[Simona1994]

We this calcium powdered buy in ebay, but yesterday he again feel sleepy, weak...
Omg... We give for him exactly 500mg per day... But he again repeat first symptoms, im afraid cause maybe we buy fake?! :// Im so sad...
Yes im give water for him with syringe, he don’t want drink and angry on me..



I found this dosing information on a different brand of the limestone flour.

39.4% elemental calcium – 10g contains 3.94g of Calcium.

[LR]

Bump! Simona needs help...

[LR]

Simona, the best I can tell from what I've been able to find is that you should be giving him about 1/2 teaspoon of the calcium broken up into four or five feedings/doses per day.

Are you giving him that much?

Make sure you keep giving him water. Even if he gets mad at you. Wrap him up in fleece or flannel so that just his face shows if he is trying to bite or scratch at you.

[Mel1959]

Simona, what you bought is probably not a fake. I’m not sure the amount of elemental calcium in the product you have, though. Lynn is right. You want to dose 500mg of elemental calcium per day administered in 5 doses. Try mixing the DAILY dose of calcium powder into some peanut butter and then dividing the peanut butter into 5 little balls. Then you can give one little ball every 3 or 4 hours. You will need to give the calcium for a long time to cure the mbd but you should see some improvement in your squirrel soon.

[Nancy in New York]

Simona, the best I can tell from what I've been able to find is that you should be giving him about 1/2 teaspoon of the calcium broken up into four or five feedings/doses per day.

Are you giving him that much?

Make sure you keep giving him water. Even if he gets mad at you. Wrap him up in fleece or flannel so that just his face shows if he is trying to bite or scratch at you.
Lynn you are right.
I found this on Henry's site.
1/2 teaspoon would equal 600 mg of elemental calcium, so a little
less would be 500 mg.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Xsj7dH9/0/acb8fbad/XL/i-Xsj7dH9-XL.jpg

[LR]

That's where I finally found it too Nancy. It's nice they even give you a gram weight.

Didn't dawn on my slow brain till last night to look at the bag sitting on the top of the cage till last night. Geesh! Actually, what didn't connect was that they are from the same source....

[Simona1994]

Thank you my friend...
But today ita verry big problem.. Maybe you know, my Squirrel yesterday going out,he eat old pear, get up on cage and falling up down...I come from city and find he on the floor... I check all body,everything allright, didn’t broke anything... but he verry weak, maybe for him paint full something... Lie down on one side and don’t move..
eat normal,walk slowly ,but lie down and dont move like statue

[LR]

Simona, it sounds like the MBD is getting worse. Maybe try increasing the amount of calcium ? Nancy or some one more experienced with MBD might be able to help you with how much more is safe to give him.

[Nancy in New York]

Thank you my friend...
But today ita verry big problem.. Maybe you know, my Squirrel yesterday going out,he eat old pear, get up on cage and falling up down...I come from city and find he on the floor... I check all body,everything allright, didn’t broke anything... but he verry weak, maybe for him paint full something... Lie down on one side and don’t move..
eat normal,walk slowly ,but lie down and dont move like statue

You need to keep this baby in a low cage so that he does NOT risk falling.
Are you following the MBD protocol?
How much calcium are you giving throughout the day?
It's suppose to be a little less than 1/2 teaspoon throughout the whole day.

[LR]

A heating pad set on the lowest setting under where he is wanting to be might help.
He can also have the baby/infant ibuprofen if he seems to need it.

Hold him and give him snuggles all you can. Your body heat and closeness will

[Nancy in New York]

A heating pad set on the lowest setting under where he is wanting to be might help.
He can also have the baby/infant ibuprofen if he seems to need it.

Hold him and give him snuggles all you can. Your body heat and closeness will

Excellent suggestion on the heating pad Lynn.
Yes, as suggested, UNDER where there is no possibility of him biting the cord.

[Simona1994]

Yes everything do for him,but accidentally yesterday forget close the cage...
And now again he have seizures :((( im all shake ,im afraid. We give for him calcium 0,100mg per one time, all day 500mg

[Simona1994]

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[Nancy in New York]

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What is this a photo of?

[Simona1994]

Calcium on size one dose

[Simona1994]

Guys what i should to do?? 4time he have sizures, again now!!

[Simona1994]

I give for him normal calcium powder dose,but i see that worse.. and worse...
When i give for him calcium liquid with vitamin D everything was allright

[Nancy in New York]

You are giving him WAY too little calcium!
He should be getting 1.5 grams throughout the whole day.
That would be 600 grams of elemental calcium.

You are giving .1
That's about 41 mg of elemental calcium!
WAY too little.


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It's suppose to be a little less than 1/2 teaspoon throughout the whole day.

[Nancy in New York]

For the seizures rub some molasses on his gums.
If you don't have that do maple syrup.
You need to get his blood sugar levels up.

[Simona1994]

How make sugar level up? Please guys cause now he have 6time

[Nancy in New York]

For the seizures rub some molasses on his gums.
If you don't have that do maple syrup.
You need to get his blood sugar levels up.

How make sugar level up? Please guys cause now he have 6time

Take a little amount of molasses OR maple and rub it on his gums.
THAT will bring up his blood sugar levels.

[Simona1994]

I cant take him cause he start seizures..

[Simona1994]

Take a little amount of molasses OR maple and rub it on his gums.
THAT will bring up his blood sugar levels.

I dont have molasses, i search on my shop,we dont have :(

[Simona1994]

And you for me write that need 1,5grams per day Calcium. But in henry pets : That need only 500miligrams calcium per day

[Simona1994]

I dont understand all people say different story..

[Nancy in New York]

And you for me write that need 1,5grams per day Calcium. But in henry pets : That need only 500miligrams calcium per day

1.5 grams (the weight) will equal 600 mg. (the dose) of elemental calcium.
Do 1.25 grams of calcium, on your scale and you will get 500 mg. (daily dose of elemental calcium).
When you weighed it, (your photo) you got .10 (weight)which equals ~ 41 mg. of calcium. WAY TOO LITTLE.

[Simona1994]

Okey, now im understand. I give for him now warm water with sugar,he drink .
Just need wait :(

[Simona1994]

Sezures again paralyzed back legs.... :((

[Simona1994]

Guys... Im here again, he again have seizures...

[Simona1994]

Guys... Im here again, he again have seizures...

[Ernestas]

Someone can explain how much calcium we must give to our squirrel now ???? We got calcium carbonate powder wich one contains 98% of calcium so how much we must give to him??? We got scales and we can give him exactly weight

[Ernestas]

Can somebody help how much calcium we must give in emergency every 10 min he got seizures again and again maybe 9 times already . Help!!!!

[TubeDriver]

Take your scale and pour the calcium on it till the scale reads 1.25g. This amount should be given each day, spaced out morning to night.


For now, since he is seizing, try mixing a tiny bit of sugar and table salt with warm water, and see if he will drink from a syringe. Keep him on low heat and in a quiet, dark place without noises.






Can somebody help how much calcium we must give in emergency every 10 min he got seizures again and again maybe 9 times already . Help!!!!

[Simona1994]

Take your scale and pour the calcium on it till the scale reads 1.25g. This amount should be given each day, spaced out morning to night.


For now, since he is seizing, try mixing a tiny bit of sugar and table salt with warm water, and see if he will drink from a syringe. Keep him on low heat and in a quiet, dark place without noises.


Thank you so much,TubeDrive... We give only sugar with warm water, he cant help for him?
12time Have seizures... yet...

[CritterMom]

Actually, use more sugar. Pour some sugar in a little dish and add one drop of water to make a thick mixture, and put a small amount of that in his mouth when he seizes. It will work like the molasses and you HAVE some. He can absorb the sugar through his gums and tongue.

Do you understand that you must increase the calcium?

[Ernestas]

We will do it now. Thank you so much. Our mistake was that we gaves him 0.1 gram pure calcium carbonate couse we did not know it contains only 40% of elemental calcium.

[CritterMom]

Yes. We ALL made that mistake which is why we ask to see labels.

[Squirrel-inAround]

Ok I'm worried, been following this lil guys story and wondering how it is now? Sending BIG HUGS!:hug

[Trooper]

Hi Simona: I don't know if you found molasses in the UK, but over there it is known as "Treacle", light or dark treacle is the UK version of molasses in the USA. Hope this help.

Trooper's dad

[LR]

Is he doing any better yet?

[Ernestas]

We giving him normal dose like you sad . But one thing that he sleeping all days from that day when he had seizures. He eating ,sometimes he trying to stand on hes back legs but we dont understand why he still sleeping a lot. We giving calcium with fruits and crushed nuts and avocado. He dont whant eat vegetables and rat blocks ,only sometimes broccoli. Maybe some one know what wrong with him?

[TubeDriver]

Each and every seizure injures his brain a little bit.

If he is sleeping and NOT seizing now, that us probably a good sign. Sleep generally is a healing process. Have you seen any seizures recently?


Keep up with the MBD treatment and cut out ALL nuts. He must not get any nuts right now. He will eat the rat blocks if that is all he has. Just rat blocks, broccoli, veggies, some fruit.




We giving him normal dose like you sad . But one thing that he sleeping all days from that day when he had seizures. He eating ,sometimes he trying to stand on hes back legs but we dont understand why he still sleeping a lot. We giving calcium with fruits and crushed nuts and avocado. He dont whant eat vegetables and rat blocks ,only sometimes broccoli. Maybe some one know what wrong with him?

[cava]

If he is being treated for MBD, discontinue all nuts (and seeds) from his diet. Even with the calcium added. You can try to make boo balls with the blocks (crush them, add some baby food, bit of coconut oil, no nuts) and see if you can get him to eat that. There are many recipes, some with formula, some with yogurt, some raw, some baked, etc. You can google boo ball recipes. He has to eat to heal and regain strength. The nuts are going to keep him in a bad, sick place right now.

[Ernestas]

Thank you so much guys. Im very happy for your help!

[Ernestas]

But its still strange couse he sleeping already four days

[Ernestas]

And one big question . Why he skaking head. Its not simple head shaking. Its like quick shake. Like something in him ears

[TubeDriver]

This could be seizures.


Can you post up a video of this behavior?


And one big question . Why he skaking head. Its not simple head shaking. Its like quick shake. Like something in him ears

[Ernestas]

We will put the video at the moment. We got a lot of questions. Help us . We realy need more information

[Ernestas]

We giving calcium every day 4 times per day and around 130mg each. Our mistake that we giving him calcium only with fruits and crushed nuts. Ok ,he sleeping and weak already 4 days after he had seizures. We dont know how feed him only with vegies when we must to give him calcium ,he dont eating vegies only sometimes broccoli.

[Ernestas]

https://youtu.be/vQ-ynUp5e_M look at video. Its how he shaking head

[Mel1959]

Do you have any type of rat/rodent block? If you do grind it up till it’s a powder and mix it with some vegetable or fruit baby food and a little coconut oil. Just enough so that the powder can be mixed into a ball. See if he will eat this. Do you have powdered peanut butter in the UK? You can put a little powdered peanut butter on the ball to make it more appetizing. He has to eat and drink.

[Mel1959]

https://youtu.be/vQ-ynUp5e_M look at video. Its how he shaking head

That head shake does not look like a seizure. I hope others will chime in as to what it looks like to them.

[cava]

I wonder if this is the result of not being able to use the rear legs to scratch her head. You could try giving her some head and neck scratches and a little rub on her ears. (I may be totally off here...she looks like she isn't using them.)

[Simona1994]

We got organic peanut butter crunchy,but he dont eat this..
Yes we give for him pulverize rat blocks with food.
But now important 2 questions...
Why he still weak .. :/
And why he shake head(Shaking head starting at 6th when he have MBD, and we given for him calcium liquid before,we thought that problem in liquid... But he still shake head)

[Simona1994]

He have seizures 5days ago,but he still weak right now.. He sleeping a lot...
We not understand why, cause with calcium is allright...But he look tired ...

[Simona1994]

I for him always stroke head , and he verry like ,he close the eyes and he sleep,he like when i stroke him.. <3
When touch him ears ,he moving .. :/
We assure that another’s problem.

[TubeDriver]

That does not look like seizures to me. I do not know why he is shaking his head?


Keep up the calcium, he needs it. It is good that he is not seizing!:great


In terms of food, the suggestions to make booballs are are good ones.

Grind up rodent blocks, add some ground up nuts and then use apple sauce to bind together. There are many different recipes fir booballs, any of them are fine.

65% rodent block/ 35% nuts and just enough apple sauce to bind together. Keep refrigorated and scoop out blocks when you need to feed him. It will take many weeks for him to strart recovering, and many months befire he is really strong again.

[LR]

It could be something not related to to the calcium problem.

Take a close look inside his ears. Are they smooth and clean inside?

Smell them carefully. I know this sounds odd but sometimes you can't see an ear infection but you can smell it.

[LR]

Don't worry about him sleeping a lot right now. For a couple of reasons:

It's winter. Squirrels will naturally sleep longer.

Your squirrel went through a lot of seizures last week. Imagine having hard cramps in your body as long as he did. His muscles were probably very sore after they finally stopped and his small body is going to take a long time to get well.

[CritterMom]

His head shaking:

Squirrels use their hind feet to clean their ears. They will lick the claws on the foot and dig them into their ears. Your squirrel cannot do that now because his hind legs are not working.

Go to the pet store and see if they have any drops meant to clean little kitten's ears. Usually you will put a drop in the ear and then rub and mush the ear around to work it through the inside of the ear. You may need to do this until he regains use of his legs. You will at least need to rub and scratch his ears for him several times a day.

[Simona1994]

Yes we thought you can be right. Thank you so much .
But guys you thinking that he can sleep cause its winter? :O
He eat , he today a little bit played.. But sleep a lot

[Simona1994]

Don't worry about him sleeping a lot right now. For a couple of reasons:

It's winter. Squirrels will naturally sleep longer.

Your squirrel went through a lot of seizures last week. Imagine having hard cramps in your body as long as he did. His muscles were probably very sore after they finally stopped and his small body is going to take a long time to get well.


But he feeling winter? If the take care for him in home..
Thank you so much. Its verry good forum! :Love_Icon

[Simona1994]

His head shaking:

Squirrels use their hind feet to clean their ears. They will lick the claws on the foot and dig them into their ears. Your squirrel cannot do that now because his hind legs are not working.

Go to the pet store and see if they have any drops meant to clean little kitten's ears. Usually you will put a drop in the ear and then rub and mush the ear around to work it through the inside of the ear. You may need to do this until he regains use of his legs. You will at least need to rub and scratch his ears for him several times a day.


297318
Do you think this good?

[Simona1994]

297319
I found in ebay,but im not sure.

[LR]

Crittermom, will these be ok or do the ear cleaning drops need to be specifically for kittens?

[CritterMom]

Crittermom, will these be ok or do the ear cleaning drops need to be specifically for kittens?

I think it will be okay. I went for kittens only because those are usually the gentlest. You won't need much.

[Simona1994]

Thank you for everybody :Love_Icon:hug
Big hug from Our Squirrel :*
Today he feeling amazing!
:hug

[LR]

Great to hear this wonderful news!

[TubeDriver]

Great, keep up the hard work! It will take a while for him to heal but it sounds like he is on the right path!:great

[Simona1994]

Hello, my squirrel shaking body..
He again weak...
Not moved.
We dont know how for him give normal food,
He dont want eat any vegetable... only tomatoes and broccoli thats it...

What you giving for your squirrel guys? :/


We giving with avokado calcium,cause he eating everything...But we hearing that avocado not suitable..
He do not like vegetable .. We dont know ...
And today he shaking body...
He feel verry bad :/

[Chickenlegs]

Is he still on the MBD protocol? You mght need to resort to a syringe to get the calcium in.

[TubeDriver]

He will eat rodent block and healthy veggies if you only give him those. Tough love is important now, his diet must be improved and the MBD treatment continued. There is no alternative to this, without he will only get more sick and eventually he will be beyond help.



Hello, my squirrel shaking body..
He again weak...
Not moved.
We dont know how for him give normal food,
He dont want eat any vegetable... only tomatoes and broccoli thats it...

What you giving for your squirrel guys? :/


We giving with avokado calcium,cause he eating everything...But we hearing that avocado not suitable..
He do not like vegetable .. We dont know ...
And today he shaking body...
He feel verry bad :/

[Mel1959]

Are you still giving him pulverized rat block mixed with food? If he likes avocado try mixing it with some mashed avocado and making it a little thinner with some formula. You can then feed it to him with a syringe. Or see if he will eat it by himself, either with or without the added formula. He must eat and drink in order to recover, but don’t give him nuts!

I believe the recommended formula that can be found in the UK is Royal Canin powdered puppy formula.

[Simona1994]

Are you still giving him pulverized rat block mixed with food? If he likes avocado try mixing it with some mashed avocado and making it a little thinner with some formula. You can then feed it to him with a syringe. Or see if he will eat it by himself, either with or without the added formula. He must eat and drink in order to recover, but don’t give him nuts!

I believe the recommended formula that can be found in the UK is Royal Canin powdered puppy formula.


Yes we pulverized, but he dont want eat this..
But we will try do everything, we purchase puppy formula, and can mix with rat block ? Cause he dont like drink from syringe... he dont want drink absolutely