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smokey joe
11-08-2017, 05:00 PM
Smokey, a few months old. Very lethargic, dark smelly urine, won't eat or drink anything. Still on mdb protocol. Help please
AgileOllie
11-08-2017, 05:13 PM
Give us a rundown of what you’re feeding plus his weight. Hoping it’s nothing serious!
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 05:18 PM
Give us a rundown of what you’re feeding plus his weight. Hoping it’s nothing serious!
He has paralized back end from MBD. He is on Henry's blocks, Henrys vitamins/protein/calcium shakes, and broccoli. We give him all sorts of vegetables but he doesn't eat anything but broccoli. He hasn't eaten or drank anything today and very little yesterday. He is 226 grams.
Since he got sick about 4 weeks ago, he has more down days than good days. wasn't sure if thats normal. but today is by far the worst.
3 days ago he was doing great, very active, alert, eating well. Next day worse. Today is just awful.
His belly also gets pretty swollen sometimes then just goes back to normal. dont know what that is about either.
he is also still on gabapentin and metcamam. the past few days we gave him tramadol because he seems to be in a lot of pain all of a sudden.
we are in illinois and would love to take him to someone who knows what they are doing. we've called everywhere and no one will see him. VERY open to ANY suggestions!!
lennysmom
11-08-2017, 06:11 PM
I'm thinking he may be a little dehydrated if his urine is darker in color. Dehydration can also cause some lethargy. Is he still urinating a decent amount? He really needs to stay hydrated, especially if he's on meds. You could try giving him some water with a little touch of honey to see if he will take it for extra hydration. Also, you could see if he might take some juicy fruit like watermelon or grapes. How long has he been on the Metacam? So is he on Metacam, Tramadol, and Gabipentin at the same time?
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 06:17 PM
I'm thinking he may be a little dehydrated if his urine is darker in color. Dehydration can also cause some lethargy. Is he still urinating a decent amount? He really needs to stay hydrated, especially if he's on meds. You could try giving him some water with a little touch of honey to see if he will take it for extra hydration. Also, you could see if he might take some juicy fruit like watermelon or grapes. How long has he been on the Metacam? So is he on Metacam, Tramadol, and Gabipentin at the same time?
He just plain will not drink. at all. he just lays there. Im sure he is dehydrated but dont know how to fix that without his cooperation. He seems to be urinating quite a bit but its really dark with red tint and smells really bad.
Can he have apple juice?
He wont eat any fruit at all.
I was told to give him gaba and metacam twice a day. Then I was told that if he seems to be in a lot of pain I could give him Tramadol every six-eight hours as needed. Hes only been on the tramadol last night and this afternoon. The other two meds he has been on since he got sick about 4 weeks ago.
lennysmom
11-08-2017, 06:21 PM
You can try mixing some apple juice with water and see if he will take it. Right now he just needs to get hydration in him ASAP however you are able to get him to take it. Many prayers for Smokey.:Love_Icon
Mel1959
11-08-2017, 06:22 PM
I don’t know how close you are to Herrick, Illinois, but there were glowing reports about Herrick Wildlife Rescue home # 618-428-5266 or cell # 217-825-7040. Please try giving them a call if your little guy has taken a turn for the worse. Keep us posted. :grouphug
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 06:26 PM
I don’t know how close you are to Herrick, Illinois, but there were glowing reports about Herrick Wildlife Rescue home # 618-428-5266 or cell # 217-825-7040. Please try giving them a call if your little guy has taken a turn for the worse. Keep us posted. :grouphug
I would seriously take him anywhere that could help him. I wouldn't want them to put him down unless it was absolutley necessary. Do you think they would help him with him being in such a bad state right now? And thank you! I will give them a call!
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 06:28 PM
He just plain will not drink. at all. he just lays there. Im sure he is dehydrated but dont know how to fix that without his cooperation. He seems to be urinating quite a bit but its really dark with red tint and smells really bad.
Can he have apple juice?
He wont eat any fruit at all.
I was told to give him gaba and metacam twice a day. Then I was told that if he seems to be in a lot of pain I could give him Tramadol every six-eight hours as needed. Hes only been on the tramadol last night and this afternoon. The other two meds he has been on since he got sick about 4 weeks ago.
In a pm I sent to you October 30th, I told you to take him off the Metacam.
Edit: I made this post in your other thread.
When Harvey was put on these drugs, my vet said that if I saw no improvement in 2 weeks, most
likely they wouldn't help. You have a ways to go, so lets keep our fingers crossed and say a lot of
prayers that this helps. :hug
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 06:32 PM
In a pm I sent to you October 30th, I told you to take him off the Metacam.
I see that now, I must have read that wrong. Do you think this is the problem?
lennysmom
11-08-2017, 06:32 PM
I also forgot to mention since he is most likely dehydrated, you can give him Pedialyte for hydration, but for no more then 48 hours.
Discontinue the metacam (meloxicam) asap. Long term use can have negative effects on the kidneys. Push fluids orally and flush out his system.
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 06:41 PM
I see that now, I must have read that wrong. Do you think this is the problem?
I think your little one definitely needs to see a vet asap.
This is not the typical MBD symptoms that we are seeing now.
He has been on the protocol and really hasn't shown much improvement.
He shouldn't be in too much pain if this is ONLY from MBD.
I worry about the fall that he took in the beginning. I'm really concerned about
that.
Being on Metacam for this length of time, isn't good for the kidneys.
I'm wondering if he has problems from that. I don't know what the
symptoms would be if the Metacam has harmed his kidneys.
I DO know that when on any meds they need lots of hydration.
Prayers for your little one, please keep us posted.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 06:50 PM
Discontinue the metacam (meloxicam) asap. Long term use can have negative effects on the kidneys. Push fluids orally and flush out his system.
Ok, thanks. I have this copied from what you sent a while ago and thats what i was going on. Must have over looked the more recent message.
You can give the Gabapentin NOW and then again in ~12 hours.
I would give him the ibuprofen today up until 6:00 pm.
ONLY give the tramadol AFTER you STOP the ibuprophen and ONLY if
he appears to be in pain.
YES you can give tramadol and metacam together when it comes, but only if he needs the additional pain med with the tramadol.
I would like to just put him on Metacam and Gabepentin, once you get it.
Ok, but do not give him Ibuprofen right now either, as it is ALSO an NSAID and hard on the kidneys. Tramadol would be the lesser of all the evils. Is he not receiving enough pain management on the Gabapentin?
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 06:55 PM
Ok, thanks. I have this copied from what you sent a while ago and thats what i was going on. Must have over looked the more recent message.
You can give the Gabapentin NOW and then again in ~12 hours.
I would give him the ibuprofen today up until 6:00 pm.
ONLY give the tramadol AFTER you STOP the ibuprophen and ONLY if
he appears to be in pain.
YES you can give tramadol and metacam together when it comes, but only if he needs the additional pain med with the tramadol.
I would like to just put him on Metacam and Gabepentin, once you get it.
Should we take him off the gabapentin and tramadol as well? Hes only had 2 doses of tramadol in the last two days and he will not be getting anymore.
Also, when we try to give him fluids with a syringe he just lays there and it dribbles out of his mouth. His eyes are open but he is very lethargic and non responsive to anything. Lights, noises, his favorite foods etc.
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 06:57 PM
Ok, thanks. I have this copied from what you sent a while ago and thats what i was going on. Must have over looked the more recent message.
You can give the Gabapentin NOW and then again in ~12 hours.
I would give him the ibuprofen today up until 6:00 pm.
ONLY give the tramadol AFTER you STOP the ibuprophen and ONLY if
he appears to be in pain.
YES you can give tramadol and metacam together when it comes, but only if he needs the additional pain med with the tramadol.
I would like to just put him on Metacam and Gabepentin, once you get it.
On the 29th you asked how much longer he should be on the meds, and this was my response.
I copied in part your question, and then, in full, my response.
Hello! We were wondering if you know how long we should keep Smokey on the meds. He's on Metacam and Gabapentin.
I would definitely take him off of the Metacam.
If he has discomfort you could give him infant ibuprofen.
They can basically stay on Gabapentin longer, though I'm not sure
it would help him at this point.
Not sure why the back legs are twitching, though I don't see that as a negative.
Perhaps you can ask on the board what the concensus is about keeping him on the
Gabapentine longer, just to see what others think.
The only drug that I've heard of that they need to be weaned off of is Prednisone, but that
may be another question you would want to raise on the board.
I know that lennysmom did NOT wean Ana off those drugs though.
So he's not swallowing? Make sure he is warmed up, you can stimulate him by rubbing him and talking to him. He could be zonked out by the meds (which can build up in the system) or he's really sick and not responding. I wish you were near someone who could give subcutaneous fluids...
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 06:58 PM
Ok, but do not give him Ibuprofen right now either, as it is ALSO an NSAID and hard on the kidneys. Tramadol would be the lesser of all the evils. Is he not receiving enough pain management on the Gabapentin?
its really hard to say. Some days are pretty good and other days, not so much. His activity/alertness level varies daily. I have no idea if any of it is working. Sometimes he cries a little when we move him so I thought he was still hurting and he gets tired really easy. The tramadol yesterday was a desperate measure because he seemed like he was so miserable. But yesterday he did drink and eat a little more, not at as much as usual, but today, nothing. Do we just force the syringe down his throat?
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 06:59 PM
So he's not swallowing? Make sure he is warmed up, you can stimulate him by rubbing him and talking to him. He could be zonked out by the meds (which can build up in the system) or he's really sick and not responding. I wish you were near someone who could give subcutaneous fluids...
No, hes not swallowing. I wish i was near someone to.
Mel1959
11-08-2017, 07:02 PM
Have you put honey or apple juice in the water to see if he likes it better. Continue to try drop by drop.
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 07:02 PM
Should we take him off the gabapentin and tramadol as well? Hes only had 2 doses of tramadol in the last two days and he will not be getting anymore.
Also, when we try to give him fluids with a syringe he just lays there and it dribbles out of his mouth. His eyes are open but he is very lethargic and non responsive to anything. Lights, noises, his favorite foods etc.
Yes I would take him off of the drugs.
Right now I worry about him being dehydrated and his kidneys.
Put a little molasses directly on his gums and see if that helps.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 07:04 PM
On the 29th you asked how much longer he should be on the meds, and this was my response.
I copied in part your question, and then, in full, my response.
Ok thanks, I see that now. There has just been so much information from the forum and searching/reading everything I can find on the web. It all gets a bit confusing. A lot of information is very contradicting so I really just bury my face in this forum for the most part. It has been very informative! We are first time squirrel parents and we love him dearly. We really want whatever is best, especially to make it so he isnt so miserable. In the last four weeks though, he hasn't shown much improvement at all. A "good Day" here and there, thats about it. Very sad for the little guy.
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 07:06 PM
Ok thanks, I see that now. There has just been so much information from the forum and searching/reading everything I can find on the web. It all gets a bit confusing. A lot of information is very contradicting so I really just bury my face in this forum for the most part. It has been very informative! We are first time squirrel parents and we love him dearly. We really want whatever is best, especially to make it so he isnt so miserable. In the last four weeks though, he hasn't shown much improvement at all. A "good Day" here and there, thats about it. Very sad for the little guy.
We know you love your little one dearly. We are here with you, and
want to help.
I understand how it can get confusing and overwhelming being
first time parents.
We are here for you.:grouphug
Can you just refresh me what city you live in?
I just want to see if we have a member nearby that may be able
to help you.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 07:08 PM
We know you love your little one dearly. We are here with you, and
want to help.
I understand how it can get confusing and overwhelming being
first time parents.
We are here for you.:grouphug
Can you just refresh me what city you live in?
I just want to see if we have a member nearby that may be able
to help you.
Ive called just about everyone i can find online. They either wont look at him at all or they say they will put him down because of his paralization.
Ohio, Il. 61354
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 07:09 PM
Have you put honey or apple juice in the water to see if he likes it better. Continue to try drop by drop.
gonna try that now! Thanks! How much should I put in? I have honey and apple juice.
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 07:12 PM
Ive called just about everyone i can find online. They either wont look at him at all or they say they will put him down because of his paralization.
Ohio, Il. 61354
Is that anywhere near Chicago?
I can send you a phone number of a member who is near
Chicago and perhaps she knows of someone closer.
Mel1959
11-08-2017, 07:15 PM
gonna try that now! Thanks! How much should I put in? I have honey and apple juice.
Just a tad to make the water taste better.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 07:15 PM
Is that anywhere near Chicago?
I can send you a phone number of a member who is near
Chicago and perhaps she knows of someone closer.
We're 2 hours from Chicago.
Anything would be welcomed
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 07:18 PM
We're 2 hours from Chicago.
Anything would be welcomed
I just sent you her phone number.
Please keep us posted.
I will try to see if we have other members
close by that can help. :hug
Edit: I just sent an email to a member from Kankakee,
hopefully they can help if the other member can't.
Still looking.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 07:45 PM
[QUOTE=Nancy in New York;1244425]I just sent you her phone number.
Please keep us posted.
I will try to see if we have other members
close by that can help. :hug
Edit: I just sent an email to a member from Kankakee,
hopefully they can help if the other member can't.
Still looking.[/QUO
should we still push calcium in his water or back off that too? he hasnt eaten anything including blocks in 2 days
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 07:51 PM
[QUOTE=Nancy in New York;1244425]I just sent you her phone number.
Please keep us posted.
I will try to see if we have other members
close by that can help. :hug
Edit: I just sent an email to a member from Kankakee,
hopefully they can help if the other member can't.
Still looking.[/QUO
should we still push calcium in his water or back off that too? he hasnt eaten anything including blocks in 2 days
This is just my opinion. The less the better for now.
Up until today, has be still be on the protocol and the healthy diet?
If they are dehydrated, they become lethargic and uninterested in food.
Right now hydration is key and the MOST important thing.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 07:56 PM
[QUOTE=smokey joe;1244437]
This is just my opinion. The less the better for now.
Up until today, has be still be on the protocol and the healthy diet?
If they are dehydrated, they become lethargic and uninterested in food.
Right now hydration is key and the MOST important thing.
yes hes been on the protocol for about 3 weeks. We bought all the blocks that Henrys has to offer plus his emergency mbd kit.
hes taking the water by putting the syringe way down his mouth. How often should we do this? I dont want to mess him up even more. seems like one step forward, two steps back with this little guy. he is a fighter though.
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 08:04 PM
[QUOTE=Nancy in New York;1244441]
yes hes been on the protocol for about 3 weeks. We bought all the blocks that Henrys has to offer plus his emergency mbd kit.
hes taking the water by putting the syringe way down his mouth. How often should we do this? I dont want to mess him up even more. seems like one step forward, two steps back with this little guy. he is a fighter though.
Just be very careful not to aspirate him.
Give him a break every now and then. and just keep offering
more periodically.
Is he fighting this, is it stressing him out?
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 08:12 PM
[QUOTE=smokey joe;1244445]
Just be very careful not to aspirate him.
Give him a break every now and then. and just keep offering
more periodically.
Is he fighting this, is it stressing him out?
he fights a little but for the most part he is so out of it he doesnt really do anything. Every time we force something... ie.. meds... he fights it and it stresses him out so i assume he doesn't care for this all that much either.
Chickenlegs
11-08-2017, 08:16 PM
Do you know any nurses? They could subQ him. Just need the ringers. Also if his urine is tinged red could he have a UTI? If you can get hold of lactated ringers or at this point sterile water. I bet someone can talk you through administering sq fuids. First time I did it was a talk through. It's certainly easier than trimming teeth and there's likely a youtube video. You Will need a sterile syringe.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 08:20 PM
Do you know any nurses? They could subQ him. Just need the ringers. Also if his urine is tinged red could he have a UTI? If you can get hold of lactated ringers or at this point sterile water. I bet someone can talk you through administering sq fuids. First time I did it was a talk through. It's certainly easier than trimming teeth and there's likely a youtube video. You Will need a sterile syringe.
Unfortunately we don't know anyone in the medical field. Everything you said sounds scary lol. what is sq fluids and is bottled water sterile? I will check you tube though, thank you!!
I have clavamox that I got for my cat when he had a UTI, should we try that?
"flying blind in the squirrel world in central Illinois"
subcutaneous (sub q) fluids are sterile fluids (the stuff you get when you get an IV) drawn up into a sterile syringe and a needle put on and then pushed right under the fur, under the skin, usually at the scruff area of an animal. It makes a bulge and the body slowly absorbs it. It should be warmed before giving and must be sterile. No bottled water will work.
I agree it is scary when you are learning and I find it easy to do to cats and dogs but ferrets and squirrels are harder for me because they have less of a scruff to put it in. ( I am a retired vet tech.)
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 09:12 PM
subcutaneous (sub q) fluids are sterile fluids (the stuff you get when you get an IV) drawn up into a sterile syringe and a needle put on and then pushed right under the fur, under the skin, usually at the scruff area of an animal. It makes a bulge and the body slowly absorbs it. It should be warmed before giving and must be sterile. No bottled water will work.
I agree it is scary when you are learning and I find it easy to do to cats and dogs but ferrets and squirrels are harder for me because they have less of a scruff to put it in. ( I am a retired vet tech.)
Wow. Do you think it could be a UTI? hes been on high calcium for a while. I have clavamox, should we try that?
red tint in urine, constant drips, no stream, strong strong smell
I think right now he needs warmth and fluids. If he isn't fully hydrated you shouldn't start any other meds. Warming the water/sweetened water you are giving by mouth may be better tolerated and would help keep his body temp from cooling.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 09:22 PM
I think right now he needs warmth and fluids. If he isn't fully hydrated you shouldn't start any other meds. Warming the water/sweetened water you are giving by mouth may be better tolerated and would help keep his body temp from cooling.
Thank you! he has been on a heating pad for the past hour, still not drinking well at all. He seems calm and keeps fighting.
Chickenlegs
11-08-2017, 09:25 PM
Can you get STERILE water and a sterile syringe. Can get insulin syringes at the pharmacy but he'll need a percentage of his body weight so you'd need something larger than a 1cc syringe so you don't need to poke hom so many times. He needs to be hydrated before he starts anything. Get water in him even if it's a drop at a time.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 09:36 PM
He's having seizures and his paralyzed back feet are gripping
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 09:52 PM
He's having seizures and his paralyzed back feet are gripping
Rub a little molasses on his gums.
OR maple syrup.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 10:03 PM
Rub a little molasses on his gums.
OR maple syrup.
ok we just did that, what is that for?
TubeDriver
11-08-2017, 10:07 PM
It gives needed electrolytes and sugars which can help prevent/stop seizures.
I would continue to give him little bits of warm water, just gently give it to him drop by drop by drop using a syringe. He needs to be hydrated.
ok we just did that, what is that for?
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 10:18 PM
ok we just did that, what is that for?
Low blood sugars can cause seizures but if you have seizures,
it raises your blood sugar level.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 10:24 PM
It gives needed electrolytes and sugars which can help prevent/stop seizures.
I would continue to give him little bits of warm water, just gently give it to him drop by drop by drop using a syringe. He needs to be hydrated.
How often should we do rub the syrup on his gums? This perked him up for a second or two.
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 10:26 PM
How often should we do rub the syrup on his gums? This perked him up for a second or two.
I would do this every 15 minutes or so a few times. Just a small amount to keep
the blood sugar levels up.
smokey joe
11-08-2017, 10:31 PM
I would do this every 15 minutes or so a few times. Just a small amount to keep
the blood sugar levels up.
how much honey or apple juice should we put in his water?
Nancy in New York
11-08-2017, 10:33 PM
how much honey or apple juice should we put in his water?
Just a touch to make it tastier, but not overly sweet.
Nancy in New York
11-09-2017, 10:16 AM
Thinking of you this morning. :grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug
SirSmokey'smom
11-10-2017, 09:49 AM
Good Morning
I wanted to pop in, say hello and with many thank you's in hand to everyone on this board for the help we received for Sir Smokey Joe. Since Smokey got sick we ventured all over the net in search of answers, help, and everything else that's involved with these remarkable animals. I wished that we would have found you guys/girls sooner so we would have know from day 1 that squirrels need more than just nuts, corn, seeds, and broccoli! I just want to say that the information on this site is worth a million dollars. To someone looking for help with their fur babies this place is amazing! Great people with great advise ready to help.... In my eyes you guys are heros.
I'm sure I won't have time to post and check back as often as I would like but I did feel the need to come by and say a few things and give a report on Mokey (Sir Smokey's nic name)
I'm very sad to report that Smokey is no longer with us. After my wife posted this message we have seen some of the worst possible situations for a mother to see with her baby. To see him so sick and hurting was tearing us apart. I reached out to a pet tech at the local animal shelter who got me in touch with a lady who rehabs wildlife but understands the feelings of the people who have taken in the animal. She would help but not take him away or call the IDNR either (Illinois Department of Natural Resources) It was advised to let him go after a lengthy inspection. His fall produced a break in the lower back and leg that was numb when he got the mbd. After rehabbing him and getting his nutrition in order that pain started coming out. Without immediate surgery he would be in a chronic state of pain/death. Added that he had a UTI infection too. NO VETS AROUND HERE WOULD EVEN LOOK AT HIM FOR THE FEAR OF THE IDNR!!!!!!!!!! (Sorry, still pissed off!!!!!) I was told he wouldn't make it through the night without surgery. He was put down with no pain and surrounded by his loved ones.
Anyways... Just wanted to share a few of Mokey's funnny moments. (This helps me as I have been a wreck since he got sick)
The sideways bounce
Mokey had a funny way of playing. He would bounce sideways like a kitten would. While remodeling he came into his new room and found the box spring we put next to the wall but half was up in the air because it was sitting on something so Mokey would run up the box and high bounce sideways all the way down. So funny to watch.
The Peanut butter Challenge
Before the MBD came into play it was so fun to give mokey a dab of peanut butter. My wife would give him the cheap stuff and he was okay with. Then one day for lunch I gave him some of my peanut butter Jiffy. He want NUTS over that stuff. LOVED IT. Since then my wife could no longer give him the cheap stuff! Anytime you would bring the cheap peanut butter in he acted like it was raw trash and ran away from it. In the same moment offer Jiffy and he was very happy! Oh and as far as the Challenge, Jiffy is the clear winner!
The Good Mornings
Walking into Mokeys room in the morning was always fun. I would walk in and say Gooooood Moooooorning! To watch that little guy light up was amazing. He would zoom around his cage, roll onto his back and let me give him some good chest rubbings. He would allow me 20 minutes of pure cuddles until his need to run and play got the better of him.
The Hat
Mokey loved my baseball caps. Anytime he would find my fitted hats it became a circle funadium. (fun stadium) Hours would be spent just relaxing and playing in those hats.
The Cage
Mokey loved his cage! 8' high X 8' long x 4' deep. His secondary cage was 5'x3'x3'. Complete with handmade rope/log bridges. 3 nests, a grassy noll, 6' log (HUGE) and the inside was covered in tree branches. More of a habitat than a cage. When mokey got sick he would just stare at his cage and try to get back there. Very hard to see! Also of note, Mokey was there watching me build this from board 1. I would be using my dewalt 20V impact (loud drill) and it wouldn't bother him one bit. Heck, he was asleep once on the 8' board I was driving the 3" screws in!! He LOVED LOVED LOVED this little world.
The Ceiling Fan
Nothing like watching him climb on my head and standing straight up and praying to the ceiling fan Gods. He was amazed at that thing going around and around. He wanted to get on that!!
Anyways.... I could write all day about some of the funny moments I had with him. for the short amount of time I had with him... I loved him a lifetimes worth. He had the ugliest mom in the world too.... 6'1" 230LBS mom with a goatee
I will miss him something awful.
SirSmokey'smom
11-10-2017, 10:28 AM
My wife and I would also like to add that if ANYONE needs help with their little one(s) we would be PROUD to pay it forward.
We have TONS of Henry Blocks frozen, plus medication that could be used to help. PM Me or Smokey Joe for information.
Nancy in NY and Chicken Legs, I will PM you two my wifes personal cell number. Call ANYTIME! I don't care if its 3AM you can call us to get these meds/food out to whomever needs them.
On Behalf of my wife Charity and I
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!
Jen413
11-10-2017, 10:54 AM
I am so, SO sorry to read this. You guys fought so hard for him. If only love alone could save them. Prayers for comfort and peace for both of you.
Run wild in the trees of heaven Smokey Joe. You are now whole. :grouphug
CritterMom
11-10-2017, 11:21 AM
Oh, I am so sorry about Smokey Joe. He had too many things happening to him all at once. He will leave a big hole for a while...
But given that you guys now know all of the ins and outs of squirrels and diet, it may also be that one day a little one that isn't really able to make it in the wild may make it's way to you. Once you have the squirrel bug it is hard to kick.
Aren't they awesome? That hopping sideways bounce which we call "popping" because they look like popcorn when they do it has an actual name - pranging. I think if people could spontaneously explode with joy like that a little more often we would have a better world...
TubeDriver
11-10-2017, 12:15 PM
Godspeed Smokey Joe. :(
Squirrels always find their way deep into our hearts, it somehow changes us for the better! I wish you could have had more time with SJ but I am glad you were with him till the end. :grouphug
There is no squirrel that could take Smokeys place in your heart. That said, boy do we know who to get a hold of come springtime if we hear a little squee in Ohio needs a family! Don't dismantle too much stuff. Once a squirrel finds you, I swear, they leave a trail others can follow...
Mel1959
11-10-2017, 12:20 PM
I’m so sorry to hear about Mokey. It is evident by the way you talk about him that he was loved and cherished. :Love_Icon. I know the squirrel size hole in your heart will be there forever. But, you never know when another little fuzz butt will bounce into it and be blessed by your care. :grouphug
Nancy in New York
11-10-2017, 01:09 PM
I am so sorry to read this post.
I remember being in awe of the love that you had for
your little Mokey (Sir Smokey Joe) through the words you wrote.
Recapping his antics brings tears and smiles knowing that you
appreciated all the "little" things he did. You found the joy
so many of us do with our little "gifts" that were placed in our hands.
There are just some members, along with their squirrels,
that grab our hearts immediately
You and Mokey are one of them.
We will never forget you, or your boy.
Rest in Peace Precious Mokey
You are so loved. 295878
When you are ready, I will respectfully move this thread to All Squirrels go to Heaven,
or if you'd rather, we can keep it here. :Love_Icon
lennysmom
11-10-2017, 01:41 PM
I am so very sorry for your loss.:sadness My heart breaks for you. It's very obvious from your writing that Smokey was a very loved.:Love_Icon And with tears in my eyes, I read through your precious memories of him.. thank you for sharing them with us.:hug I pray that you find comfort in them in the days to come, remembering what a delight he was to your lives.:grouphug His memory will live on in your hearts and in ours.:Love_Icon Godspeed precious little Smokey.:sad
Chickenlegs
11-10-2017, 02:52 PM
Sweet sleep little Smokey. An ocean of tears can't wash away the grief of your passing, but oh the joy of knowing and loving you. Run free, climb high and send your unfailing love to your folks, as they send theirs to you :Love_Icon
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