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Christinaandmichael
09-30-2017, 05:46 PM
I have been caring for two baby squirrels found in my downed tree after hurricane Irma. I believe they are now about 4 weeks old. I have been feeding them esbilac puppy formula, 3-4 cc's from a ringed syringe. Unfortunately, I aspirated them during feeding a few days ago because I switched to a 3 cc syringe. Bad idea.. The boy started clicking and the girl also appeared lethargic and refusing food so I gave them both antibiotics for the past two days. I have bactrim on hand from my son. I also gave them some pedialyte and they had been doing great.
My little girl is not doing well today. I got caught up at the store and so they went 7 hours with out food and without their rice buddy being heated. When I went to feed her, she didn't want to eat. I gave her 1 cc and she immediately wiggled out of my hand, crawled around on the ground like crazy and rolled on her side and started chirping with her mouth open, I thought she was dying. I freaked out and called for my husband. He had me put her on a heating pad and give her pedialyte because she appeared dehydrated. She is resting on the heating pad peacefully now but I am still worried. Any idea what may be going on?

Nancy in New York
09-30-2017, 06:00 PM
I have been caring for two baby squirrels found in my downed tree after hurricane Irma. I believe they are now about 4 weeks old. I have been feeding them esbilac puppy formula, 3-4 cc's from a ringed syringe. Unfortunately, I aspirated them during feeding a few days ago because I switched to a 3 cc syringe. Bad idea.. The boy started clicking and the girl also appeared lethargic and refusing food so I gave them both antibiotics for the past two days. I have bactrim on hand from my son. I also gave them some pedialyte and they had been doing great.
My little girl is not doing well today. I got caught up at the store and so they went 7 hours with out food and without their rice buddy being heated. When I went to feed her, she didn't want to eat. I gave her 1 cc and she immediately wiggled out of my hand, crawled around on the ground like crazy and rolled on her side and started chirping with her mouth open, I thought she was dying. I freaked out and called for my husband. He had me put her on a heating pad and give her pedialyte because she appeared dehydrated. She is resting on the heating pad peacefully now but I am still worried. Any idea what may be going on?

How much of the antibiotic have you been giving and what is their weights.

Also what is the strength of the Bactrim.
Bactrim is a slow acting antibiotic.
Are you giving her probiotics since you stared antibiotics.

MOST importantly how much did you dose?

Do you know of anyone that has Cipro (Human) Baytril (animal) Clavamox or Augmentin
All we need is one pill and the weight of your squirrel. and the strength of the antibiotic.
Put a little molasses on her gums, she may have low blood sugar.
Go back to the 1 mL syringe.

cava
09-30-2017, 06:11 PM
If you have a heating pad you can put it under HALF of the container that they are in, which should be a plastic bin with ventilation holes, that way you wouldn't have to worry about the rice buddy getting cold.

Christinaandmichael
09-30-2017, 06:11 PM
I went back to the 1ml syringe. I don't have any molasses or real maple syrup. What else could I use? They weigh 80grams. I have been dosing .02ml twice daily. The strength of the Bactrim is 40mg per 5ml. I can see if I can get some augmentin or coavamox from family or friends

cava
09-30-2017, 06:12 PM
karo syrup, honey

Christinaandmichael
09-30-2017, 06:16 PM
Ok. I have honey. I will do that now. Also, I have azirthomycin on hand if that is safe for squirrels.

Christinaandmichael
09-30-2017, 06:23 PM
And cefdinir. My kid is sick a lot.

Nancy in New York
09-30-2017, 06:27 PM
I went back to the 1ml syringe. I don't have any molasses or real maple syrup. What else could I use? They weigh 80grams. I have been dosing .02ml twice daily. The strength of the Bactrim is 40mg per 5ml. I can see if I can get some augmentin or coavamox from family or friends

You are positive the Bactrim is 40mg/5ml?

Christinaandmichael
09-30-2017, 06:35 PM
On the bottle it says 200-40mg/5ml

Nancy in New York
09-30-2017, 06:38 PM
On the bottle it says 200-40mg/5ml

OK I'm just going to delete what I wrote above.
Give me a few minutes trying to get dinner on the table.
This will be done within the next 15 minutes.

Edit: Dosing sent

Christinaandmichael
09-30-2017, 07:14 PM
Nancy, thank you so much for your message. A appreciate you taking the time out of your dinner to work on this.I am not able to respond in private messaging. The dosage is pretty similar to what I have been giving them. I haven't been giving a probiotic but I will start. Since I was pretty close with the antibiotic dosage, it is reasonable to think the little one's behavior is a result of pneumonia or something else?
She did happily take the honey but is still listless. He breathing does seem different than her brother's. There is a YouTube video with breathing that looks like hers and it says very sick squirrels.

Nancy in New York
09-30-2017, 07:23 PM
Nancy, thank you so much for your message. A appreciate you taking the time out of your dinner to work on this.I am not able to respond in private messaging. The dosage is pretty similar to what I have been giving them. I haven't been giving a probiotic but I will start. Since I was pretty close with the antibiotic dosage, it is reasonable to think the little one's behavior is a result of pneumonia or something else?
She did happily take the honey but is still listless. He breathing does seem different than her brother's. There is a YouTube video with breathing that looks like hers and it says very sick squirrels.

Sorry I just put you on as a member. I saw the urgent thread and never checked to see if you were a member.
Never a problem to help, I only wrote that so you wouldn't think I deserted you.
Can you post a link to the You Tube Video. If this is aspiration pnemonia, she really does need the
best drugs to fight this. That's why it's imperative to find Cipro or Baytril, Clavamox or Augmentin.
Bactrim is slow acting as I said.
If you can post the video link, we can see what you'r talking about.
OR get a video of your baby, post that on YouTube and send us that link. :)

Christinaandmichael
09-30-2017, 07:31 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ymoVqSxvkdI

I am getting augmentin tonight from my friend. I will post the strength once I get it. Thanks again! I don't want her to die :(

UDoWhat
09-30-2017, 07:48 PM
This is definitely AP. She needs antibiotics tonight ASAP. She is clicking with every breath. This is life threatening if she can't get antibiotics soon. Please start the antibiotics tonight.

UDoWhat
09-30-2017, 07:52 PM
She looks pretty little. That may just be the video. What does she weigh? Are you feeding Esbilac liquid or Esbilac powdered kind ?

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Nancy in New York
09-30-2017, 08:17 PM
This is definitely AP. She needs antibiotics tonight ASAP. She is clicking with every breath. This is life threatening if she can't get antibiotics soon. Please start the antibiotics tonight.

UDoWhat this isn't her little one, this is a squirrel on YouTube.
Her's weigh 80 grams.


There is a YouTube video with breathing that looks like hers and it says very sick squirrels.

UDoWhat
09-30-2017, 08:48 PM
Oh that's better. Scared me !!! I can relax a little now. Sorry ! :Love_Icon

Nancy in New York
09-30-2017, 08:50 PM
Oh that's better. Scared me !!! I can relax a little now. Sorry ! :Love_Icon

I know right? Phew! :w00t

Christinaandmichael
09-30-2017, 09:24 PM
125mg per 5ml

Nancy in New York
09-30-2017, 09:31 PM
125mg per 5ml
What drug?????????

Christinaandmichael
09-30-2017, 09:37 PM
Augmentin

Nancy in New York
09-30-2017, 09:46 PM
Augmentin


OK your strength is 25mg/ml
Our strength is 62.5 mg/ml (according to the WMB book)
The dose is 0.064 but round it down to 0.06 twice daily for 5-7 days.
Always give probiotics 2 hours prior or 2 hours after.

Here's where the dose should be on your syringe.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-FLr8dqG/0/8d4e2335/O/i-FLr8dqG.jpg