View Full Version : Hi my name is Melissa and I'm new to this but love my outside squirrels!
Mbritt7676
09-26-2017, 07:37 PM
During the hurricane I had a nest of squirrels living in my pecan tree in our front yard. The wind blew the nest out of the tree and the mom and two baby's hunkered down at the trunk of the tree. I was watching them trying to figure out how to help them when a big limb fell on the mom. I ran out and got the two baby's that were almost frozen. I towellex them off and put them under a heat lamp that I had in a makeshift nest. They have been doing great ever since except for the little girl that has a lump on her neck that we keep getting puss our of but can't seem to get it to heal. I put Neosporin on it but that's not even helping. Every day I drain it and every night it fills right back up. I. Out of ideas. I think they are around 9 Or 10 weeks old. Any help would be appreciated. I am also planing on reelsing them back into the wild if at all possible.
stepnstone
09-26-2017, 08:15 PM
During the hurricane I had a nest of squirrels living in my pecan tree in our front yard. The wind blew the nest out of the tree and the mom and two baby's hunkered down at the trunk of the tree. I was watching them trying to figure out how to help them when a big limb fell on the mom. I ran out and got the two baby's that were almost frozen. I towellex them off and put them under a heat lamp that I had in a makeshift nest. They have been doing great ever since except for the little girl that has a lump on her neck that we keep getting puss our of but can't seem to get it to heal. I put Neosporin on it but that's not even helping. Every day I drain it and every night it fills right back up. I. Out of ideas. I think they are around 9 Or 10 weeks old. Any help would be appreciated. I am also planing on reelsing them back into the wild if at all possible.
Please post a picture of the injured baby and start looking to see what antibiotics you may have or call around to family and friends to see what you can obtain.
It would only take 1 pill. Let us know what you can find and we can tell you if it can be used, how to break it down and how to dose.
... Then we need to discuss how and what you are feeding these little's.
Mbritt7676
09-26-2017, 10:42 PM
It's hard to get great pictures because they are so busy running around but I hope this helps.
Mbritt7676
09-26-2017, 11:16 PM
I looked around my house but don't have any antibiotics. I'll call my mom tomorrow and see what she may have. I'm feeding them a mixture of yogurt and hempseed in the morning and they get all the pecans they want . We also have Muscatine and scufanin vines so I feed them that and I have pair trees so I have been giving them to them along with green beans and broccoli although both of them have to be store bought because I don't grow them. I have also thrown in some walnuts.
Mbritt7676
09-26-2017, 11:19 PM
I had to start off giving them water from a dropper but now they drink straight from a small bowl.
Mbritt7676
09-26-2017, 11:34 PM
This is the brother and sister together. I think I'm in love !:Love_Icon
stepnstone
09-27-2017, 03:28 AM
I looked around my house but don't have any antibiotics. I'll call my mom tomorrow and see what she may have. I'm feeding them a mixture of yogurt and hempseed in the morning and they get all the pecans they want . We also have Muscatine and scufanin vines so I feed them that and I have pair trees so I have been giving them to them along with green beans and broccoli although both of them have to be store bought because I don't grow them. I have also thrown in some walnuts.
Baby girl needs Ab's, do let us know what you can find. Clavamox / Augmenten would be ideal. I would continue using warm
compresses and help keep open/drained then apply the neosporin. She will need the ab.
Melissa I'm not going to mince words about that "diet," your going to kill them with it! It's going to cause mbd, it has to change immediately! All the nuts and seeds are doing is canceling out any good you may be feeding and robbing their bodies of calcium, once the body is depleted it takes it from their bones. Squirrels have a high calcium requirement and a daily nutritional balance they need to keep. In captivity we have to provide that balance by feeding them the proper diet/nutrition. Others can chime in but I'm not seeing 9-10 week olds? I think maybe these babies should probably still be on formula but definitely need to be eating a quality rodent block. Rodent block is the first and only solid food a baby should be eating and eating well before other solids are introduced. I'm attaching a link below to the healthy diet and a picture of the right formula for these babies. Find an Ab, change the diet, ask whatever questions you have. Lets get all these babies on track.
Healthy diet for squirrels:
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?44440-Healthy-Diet-for-Pet-Squirrels
(https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?44440-Healthy-Diet-for-Pet-Squirrels)
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=293905&stc=1
Mbritt7676
09-27-2017, 09:10 AM
I'm sorry I'm new to this and was just going by pictures and activity. What age do you think they are? I talked to my daughter and she said she thinks she has some antibiotics and is going to check today.
stepnstone
09-27-2017, 11:53 AM
I'm sorry I'm new to this and was just going by pictures and activity. What age do you think they are? I talked to my daughter and she said she thinks she has some antibiotics and is going to check today.
No apologizes necessary, if I had to guess I'd say eight but doesn't mean I'm right either. All babies are not created equal.
I do hope you can find antibiotics for that little girl, the last thing she needs is for that infection to turn septic.
Please work on that diet, it is a gateway to mbd and often the only warning one gets is when they find their baby
laying at the bottom of their cage unresponsive or in their nest already gone.
Mbritt7676
09-27-2017, 06:50 PM
I went out today and purchased the puppy formula you sugeseted. How much should they be eating of it. They like to drink from bowls but hate the bottle and the dropper. I put it in a bowl and they started drinking it up. I'm just not sure how much they should have. Also they have both bottom and top teeth and there tail is very developed. They also like to explore outside there box Alcott. This is why I figured they were around 9 Or 10 weeks. They also jump all over.from me to the box to the chair. They are active little babys.
Mbritt7676
09-27-2017, 07:08 PM
I have a amox-clav 500-125m. Will that work?
stepnstone
09-27-2017, 07:16 PM
I went out today and purchased the puppy formula you sugeseted. How much should they be eating of it. They like to drink from bowls but hate the bottle and the dropper. I put it in a bowl and they started drinking it up. I'm just not sure how much they should have. Also they have both bottom and top teeth and there tail is very developed. They also like to explore outside there box Alcott. This is why I figured they were around 9 Or 10 weeks. They also jump all over.from me to the box to the chair. They are active little babys.
It is the powered mixed 2-1 yes??
That's great they will still take formula, you are warming it some aren't you?
Eating from a bowl is fine, just make sure they are cleaning themselves up after
or you may need to wipe them down. Formula left on fur can cause milk scald and
they can start losing fur in that area. I have formula bowl slurpers too and I give
them whatever they will consume, they appear to stop themselves when they are full.
I'd just watch the poops and make sure poo's are remaining stable. Keep the powered
formula either in freezer or at the least refrigerator.
They may very well be 8-10 weeks with the activity you describe, I'd be looking into
a larger cage adding play things they can climb and pounce on and fleece, these babies
love their fleece.
Be careful with them jumping too much, their little bones are still growing and you wouldn't
want them to misjudge and take a fall.
Now you need to be working on providing them with a good rodent block. :great
Nancy in New York
09-27-2017, 07:20 PM
Just for clarification, the Puppy Esbilac is 1 part powdered Esbilac to 2 parts HOT water.
Let it sit in the refrig for about 6 hours whisking occasionally so it all dissolves.
Mbritt7676
09-27-2017, 09:11 PM
I looked for the rodent block at two places today but couldn't find it. I'm going to pet smart tomorrow to see if they have it. I just gave them some fruit and broccoli along with the formula today I hope that was ok. I did warm it up but I don't think I mixed it correctly. I mixed it like the can said but I will make sure to mix it properly tomorrow. Thank you for all the help.
Mbritt7676
09-27-2017, 09:17 PM
They are outside on a screened in porch so they can run and play as much as they like. Mostly they like climbing me like a tree and folowinging me around. Lol even in the house.
stepnstone
09-28-2017, 01:12 AM
I have a amox-clav 500-125m. Will that work?
Don't know how I missed this, yes this will work! Do you have a way to get a weight on the girl?
Squirrels are dosed medications by body weight, we can take an educated guess but it would
be more advisable to have an exact weight. We weigh squirrels in grams but ounces, pounds, can
be converted if that's what we need to do. Can you get a weight on the girl?
I will check for answers first thing in (my) morning, will also ask Nancy to check in. She can/will write up
instructions and dose the med also. Dosing for meds are always sent in private messages as to deter
"random/public" use outside the intended party.
Rodent block...
I personally prefer the HHB's, (Henry's healthy blocks) they were developed and made specifically for squirrels
and their nutritional requirements. You will not find them in stores. They are made and shipped fresh. They can
only be ordered on line or by phone. Here is their web site; https://www.henryspets.com/squirrel-diet/
(https://www.henryspets.com/squirrel-diet/)
I'm also attaching pictures of recommended commercial rodent block so you will know which to look for at PetSmart.
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=293948&stc=1https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=293949&stc=1
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=293950&stc=1The right KAYTEE is the blue bag.
Mbritt7676
09-28-2017, 05:01 PM
The best I could get on the girls weight was 118g. Does that sound right? It showed 4.2 oz
Nancy in New York
09-28-2017, 05:31 PM
The best I could get on the girls weight was 118g. Does that sound right? It showed 4.2 oz
I will dose this, give me a few minutes and I will write it up
and send in a pm.
Edit: Dosing sent.
Nancy in New York
09-28-2017, 06:13 PM
I did warm it up but I don't think I mixed it correctly. I mixed it like the can said but I will make sure to mix it properly tomorrow. Thank you for all the help.
How did the can say to mix it?
Are you sure you have the correct formula?
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Mbritt7676
09-29-2017, 08:38 AM
The can said two Tablespoons of formula to two Tablespoons of warm water. I made sure it was the exact can. It even has the label on top that says what is highlighted on your text.
Nancy in New York
09-29-2017, 09:12 AM
The can said two Tablespoons of formula to two Tablespoons of warm water. I made sure it was the exact can. It even has the label on top that says what is highlighted on your text.
My can says 1 part powder to 2 parts water. :thinking
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TubeDriver
09-29-2017, 10:43 AM
I have always used 1 part powder to 2 parts water? I went to the esbilac website and this is what it says.
If your can of says 2 parts powder to 2 parts water, I almost wonder if it is some fake version?
Nancy in New York
09-29-2017, 11:02 AM
I have always used 1 part powder to 2 parts water? I went to the esbilac website and this is what it says.
If your can of says 2 parts powder to 2 parts water, I almost wonder if it is some fake version?
Exactly I have always done 1:2 like the can says.
stepnstone
09-29-2017, 03:31 PM
The can said two Tablespoons of formula to two Tablespoons of warm water. I made sure it was the exact can. It even has the label on top that says what is highlighted on your text.
I just went through a whole list of different brands of powered puppy formulas and did not find one with feeding directions listed like this.
Please post a picture front and back of what you are using. Something definitely is not right!
Mbritt7676
10-02-2017, 11:14 AM
Just a quick update on Precious(yes we my grandson named them) My primary goal is still to let them go in our back yard however. We have a good bit of land so except for hawks they should be safe. Precious is doing great the bump is almost gone. Now my question is the other day I went out to feed them and the boy Theodore was outside. He had found or made a hole in the screen. Does this mean they are ready for us to build the outside house and just keep feeding them? I feed them as much formula as they want. I also feed them avacodos, peaches, pears, broccoli and they get a pecan a day as a traat. I ordered the rodent block but it has not come in yet. Please advise me if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks again for all your help.
Mbritt7676
10-02-2017, 04:22 PM
I forgot to reply to the last post but you were correct when I went back and read it it said two Tablespoons (30ml) of liquid per 4ounces (115g) of body weight daily. I must have been tiers when I read it the first time. I have been mixing it like you said ever since you told me to. Figured you k ow more about them then the puppy people and also myself. Did you see what I'm feeding the while I'm waiting on the rodent block? Does this sound ok?
Mbritt7676
10-06-2017, 08:30 AM
Never mind I think I have it all under control. I purchased pellets although they are still not there favorite food. I also added some calcium into there avacodos (that is there favorite food).that way if they were not eating enough pellets they were still getting the calcium they needed. They love there puppy milk and I'm now mixing it correctly. The little girl Precious is all cleared up of her bump thanks to the antibiotics. They are running all over the house yard and up some of my smaller trees as long as I'm outside with them. My husband is going to make them a more permanent home outside so they have a safe place to go but can still interact with other squirrels and I'm going to continue to feed them through the winter. We normally have mild winters around here but I k ow they don't k ow how to forage for themselves yet. If anyone sees that I'm doing something wrong please let me know. Thanks for everyone's help.
Mel1959
10-06-2017, 09:30 AM
Were these babies orphaned as a result of hurricane Irma back on Sept.14? How old are you estimating them to be now? And these babies are actually running around your yard because they chewed through the screen enclosure on the patio? We typically don't like to see them released until 14-16 weeks old. They lack the necessary skills, both for foraging and staying safe, until they are older.
Sounds like the canned liquid Esbilac instead of the powdered formula..
stepnstone
10-06-2017, 12:20 PM
I forgot to reply to the last post but you were correct when I went back and read it it said two Tablespoons (30ml) of liquid per 4ounces (115g) of body weight daily. I must have been tiers when I read it the first time. I have been mixing it like you said ever since you told me to. Figured you k ow more about them then the puppy people and also myself. Did you see what I'm feeding the while I'm waiting on the rodent block? Does this sound ok?
Sounds like the canned liquid Esbilac instead of the powdered formula..
:great
I sure don't know what they have been eating but do know Esbilac powered puppy formula does not read like the above...
Jen413
10-06-2017, 12:34 PM
Scroll up and you can see where Nancy posted a picture of the back of her esbilac can. If I hadn't seen that picture I would have been wondering too. We probably just don't pay it any attention because we follow the 5%-7% rule of thumb. :)
stepnstone
10-06-2017, 12:46 PM
Scroll up and you can see where Nancy posted a picture of the back of her esbilac can. If I hadn't seen that picture I would have been wondering too. We probably just don't pay it any attention because we follow the 5%-7% rule of thumb. :)
:greatGot it! :thankyou
Mbritt7676
10-06-2017, 05:44 PM
Thanks for all your help. They're doing great and I even go a bottle of extra calcium to put in there avacodos. Since I'm having a hard time getting them to eat the pellets. They have been getting use to them they just don't eat as much as they should.
Nancy in New York
10-07-2017, 03:23 PM
Thanks for all your help. They're doing great and I even go a bottle of extra calcium to put in there avacodos. Since I'm having a hard time getting them to eat the pellets. They have been getting use to them they just don't eat as much as they should.
What kind of pellets are you feeding?
Have you ever tried the picky blocks from Henry's?
All my squirrels will actually eat these and NOT shred or bury. :w00t
https://www.henryspets.com/squirrel-diet/
Mbritt7676
10-07-2017, 03:32 PM
I think they are around 12 weeks now and we were not planning on just releasing them but making more or a cage that they can get in and out of but predators can't. I found one on the internet that looks like it will work. We also are not planning on doing this for a few more weeks so they should be around 14 weeks when we put them in the outdoor cage. Plus it will be right by our front porch so the will have us as watchers. They follow me everywhere now. Yes it was the result of the hurricane and I think they were around 8 or 9 weeks then. They have both super and lower teeth all the way in and there tails are full. They are are around 13 or 14 inches from tip of nose to the tip of there tail and are already hiding food. Lol I keep finding it everywhere. If you feel I'm wrong on the age please let me k ow. Thank you294477294481
Mbritt7676
10-07-2017, 03:38 PM
I just went to pet smart and got the brand that said ok for squirrels. I will look and probably order the ones you sugeseted. Thanks again for all the help
Mbritt7676
10-07-2017, 03:43 PM
I'm not feeding them the caned it's the power. I just read it wrong the first time. I was looking at the second instructions instead of the first ones. That is done by weight.
stepnstone
10-07-2017, 05:11 PM
What kind of pellets are you feeding?
I just went to pet smart and got the brand that said ok for squirrels. I will look and probably order the ones you sugeseted. Thanks again for all the help
There are several block on the market that may indicate for squirrels that are nothing but junk food that shouldn't be fed.
You can't go wrong with HHB's in my opinion.
Pictured below is the commercial block recommended. Many have success getting them to eat them, not all.
https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=294492&stc=1https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=294493&stc=1https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=294494&stc=1Blue bag only for KeeTee.
Mbritt7676
10-11-2017, 03:43 PM
The bottom blue bag is what it have. The girl is now making a nest back in the tree in the exact spot that they fell from. She however still co.e. back for all feedings. I'm still having a hard time getting them to eat the block so I may try that picky squirrel food.
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