PLEASE HELP. I THINK THIS COULD BE PRETTY LIFE THREATENING.

[Ballenabeluga]

Hello, so... How do I explain this? A friend called me on Friday. She was going crazy about a baby squirrel that a girl at his job found. But, she could not take care of him and she needed to find someone else. I have experience with animals so they thougth about me. This is my first squirrel baby. I did a lot of research. But, this is what happenned. The girl who found him was giving him almond milk. She found him after the hurricane and that is the only thing she had at home. When I went to meet him she was giving him a baby (human) formula. She explained to me everything but, she was touching him too much, all the workers were touching him. She was giving him his food with an eye dropper. She did not have a heating pad on him. It was crazy when I saw all of that. So I took him rigth away. We went straight to get the Sbilac powder form. But, the girl at Petsmart told me not to do so. That I should get a kitten one. So I did, but them when I came home I saw pictures of babies that had been fed with kitten milk. And they were very weak. So yesterday I went to change it. They did not had Sbilac so I got other puppy replacement milk in powder form and whipping cream. I was giving him a home made pedyalite. Yesterday I got unflavored Pedyalite and Electrolyte water (I read that pedyalite was not good anymore because the zinc) So I was mixing those too. He was still dehydrated and very thin so I gave him some of the puppy formula and whipping cream thing. His stomach was very hard yesterday nigth. But, I figured out to make him go with a lot of patient. I am giving him pedyalite now. Because he was not suggesting the formula. I will give him one more feed of pedyalite then I am planning to start with formula. As you can see, this baby had changed food A LOT, I already love him. I don't want to lose him. He is warm and I have been doing all I can to keep him ok. I got the Fox Vally but it will be here probably by Thursday. I need help. What should I do? Should I give him the puppy formula with whipping cream? How? Please any advice for me will be good. I want to save him. He is so so strong. He is around 2-3 weeks old. This Url is of my Instagram post. The first picture is him yesterday. The second one is him the day I got him. THE THING DID NOT LET ME PUT THE PIC, IF SOMEONE COULD PLEASE HELP ME.]I am not sure about his poo. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT SHOULD LOOK. If someone have any picture. Please let me know. Also, I am completely new here. I don't know what I'm doing in this post. https://www.instagram.com/p/BZH_jiWhwYA/

[Ballenabeluga]

I FIGURED OUT HOW TO PUT THE LINK FOR PICTURES. IT IS ON THE BOTTOM.

[Jen413]

If you weren't able to get the esbilac with pre/probiotics I wouldn't give him the other kind. Here's a link to the goat milk formula that you can use. Then you can order esbilac or fox valley online.

https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?29904-TEMPORARY-Goat-s-Milk-Formula***

[cava]

Hi there. Breathe. We'll get you through this. That was a lot of information so let's go step by step.

You ordered Fox Valley squirrel formula 20/50 and that will be there on Thursday? But you couldn't get the Esbilac so you got a different brand of puppy formula? What kind?

Today start him on this temporary Goat's Milk formula that you will make at home.

3 parts goat milk (fresh from the fridge section at the store. If you cannot get fresh you may buy canned or powder but you must reconstitute it first to according to the directions given)

1 part full fat vanilla yogurt (yobaby is a good brand but whatever you get avoid artificial sweeteners)

1 part heavy whipping cream (in the milk isle, is not the same as half and half)

Mix this together and feed with a syringe and nipple, or just a 1 ml syringe. Do not use pet nurser bottles, they can aspirate milk into the lungs. You will need a gram scale (walmart, target) and feed 5%-7% of baby's weight in grams. For instance if he is 60 grams on the scale you will multiply 60 x .05 = 3 ml or 60 x.07 = 4.2 ml. In this case you would feed 3-4.2 ml each feeding. His amount is based on weight of baby so please get the scale. Over or underfeeding will cause problems. While you are at the store you can ask a pharmacist for a 1 ml syringe but say you are feeding orphaned kittens, not squirrel.

Baby can be fed every 4 hours and you may continue to hydrate with homemade hydration solution (recipe below) or pedialyte for up to three days. After that you should switch to plain water because because he doesn't need the salt. Hydrate in between feedings, not as a substitute for feedings. Warm all fluids before feeding baby. Baby must be warmed up before he can tolerate fluids by mouth.

Homemade hydration solution:
1 cup hot water
1 tablespoon sugar
1/4 tablespoon salt

Keep refrigerated and make new every 24 hours.

Please look through all of the pages on this site for more information, where to house him, proper feeding technique and how to keep him warm with a heating pad. https://www.henryspets.com/baby-squirrel-care/

[Coralreefer]

Great stuff from Cava.

You should be able to go today to any pet store and fine the Esbilac with probiotics for puppies. If you can just cancel the Fox Valley order since it's going to take days to get to you.

Use the goat milk formula as stated until then.

Their poop should be little hard pellets. Will generally be brown to black on his moms milk. Since he's been fed other things who knows what color it may be. The importance of their poop is that it is hard little pellets. If it comes out gooey or liquid form he's got stomach issues. You know how to stimulate them? His eyes are still closed so he needs stimulation to go to the bathroom. Take a cotton ball or soft cloth and stimulate his genital area to get them to go to the bathroom. Very important.

You mentioned the lady had an eye dropper. As you mentioned those are unsafe. You have 1cc syringes? Nipples?

You mentioned he had a hard stomach. Does it look excessively full? Like he's got a full belly even before you feed him? With the squirrel being given all these different foods that are not compatible for him it is very possible his digestive system has reacted by creating gas. This is called bloat and is common when baby squirrels are given inappropriate food. You need to pay close attention to this. There is a way to fix this if he has it.

We need to get pictures posted. I will private message you my email. Send me pictures and I'll post.

[Ballenabeluga]

Hi there. Breathe. We'll get you through this. That was a lot of information so let's go step by step.

You ordered Fox Valley squirrel formula 20/50 and that will be there on Thursday? But you couldn't get the Esbilac so you got a different brand of puppy formula? What kind?

Today start him on this temporary Goat's Milk formula that you will make at home.

3 parts goat milk (fresh from the fridge section at the store. If you cannot get fresh you may buy canned or powder but you must reconstitute it first to according to the directions given)

1 part full fat vanilla yogurt (yobaby is a good brand but whatever you get avoid artificial sweeteners)

1 part heavy whipping cream (in the milk isle, is not the same as half and half)

Mix this together and feed with a syringe and nipple, or just a 1 ml syringe. Do not use pet nurser bottles, they can aspirate milk into the lungs. You will need a gram scale (walmart, target) and feed 5%-7% of baby's weight in grams. For instance if he is 60 grams on the scale you will multiply 60 x .05 = 3 ml or 60 x.07 = 4.2 ml. In this case you would feed 3-4.2 ml each feeding. His amount is based on weight of baby so please get the scale. Over or underfeeding will cause problems. While you are at the store you can ask a pharmacist for a 1 ml syringe but say you are feeding orphaned kittens, not squirrel.

Baby can be fed every 4 hours and you may continue to hydrate with homemade hydration solution (recipe below) or pedialyte for up to three days. After that you should switch to plain water because because he doesn't need the salt. Hydrate in between feedings, not as a substitute for feedings. Warm all fluids before feeding baby. Baby must be warmed up before he can tolerate fluids by mouth.

Homemade hydration solution:
1 cup hot water
1 tablespoon sugar
1/4 tablespoon salt

Keep refrigerated and make new every 24 hours.

Please look through all of the pages on this site for more information, where to house him, proper feeding technique and how to keep him warm with a heating pad. https://www.henryspets.com/baby-squirrel-care/

Thank you so so much for have answering me so quickly. The one I got him is called gnc ultra mega premium milk replacer. Erinched formula powder. GNC Petshttps://www.google.com/search?q=gnc+milk+replacer+puppy&client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&sa=X&biw=412&bih=652&tbs=vw:l,ss:44&tbm=shop&prmd=sivn&srpd=14102737260903078348&prds=epd:2421011260014152573,cdl:1,cid:14130350828 433176809&ved=0ahUKEwiN783VyKzWAhXIyyYKHQCZBY4QgTYIvQQ This is the link of it. But I got the one that does not says goat milk. Don't know why because I got that one but when I got home it was different. Anyway that is the one I have. My dad is are already very mad at me for spendending that amount of money. I have spent like 60 or more so far with all the things. Do you think this could work at least meanwhile the Fox valley arrives?

[Ballenabeluga]

Great stuff from Cava.

You should be able to go today to any pet store and fine the Esbilac with probiotics for puppies. If you can just cancel the Fox Valley order since it's going to take days to get to you.

Use the goat milk formula as stated until then.

Their poop should be little hard pellets. Will generally be brown to black on his moms milk. Since he's been fed other things who knows what color it may be. The importance of their poop is that it is hard little pellets. If it comes out gooey or liquid form he's got stomach issues. You know how to stimulate them? His eyes are still closed so he needs stimulation to go to the bathroom. Take a cotton ball or soft cloth and stimulate his genital area to get them to go to the bathroom. Very important.

You mentioned the lady had an eye dropper. As you mentioned those are unsafe. You have 1cc syringes? Nipples?

You mentioned he had a hard stomach. Does it look excessively full? Like he's got a full belly even before you feed him? With the squirrel being given all these different foods that are not compatible for him it is very possible his digestive system has reacted by creating gas. This is called bloat and is common when baby squirrels are given inappropriate food. You need to pay close attention to this. There is a way to fix this if he has it.

We need to get pictures posted. I will private message you my email. Send me pictures and I'll post.

I have a syringe but is big. I have a nipple on it so it is fine. I have been stimulating him to get all the weird things out of his system. His poo is yellow. But, it does not smell weird. His belly is round but I try not to get it super full (bloated) I have been giving him Pedialyte since yesterday at 1 am trying to rehydrate him. I do not have a car and my dad is not willing to help me my local per stores do not have Sbilac (at least petsmart) I will check the others that are close (petco And supermarket)I am really scared. I don't want to lose him but I have 0 dollars on my account rigth now.

[Coralreefer]

I have a syringe but is big. I have a nipple on it so it is fine. I have been stimulating him to get all the weird things out of his system. His poo is yellow. But, it does not smell weird. His belly is round but I try not to get it super full (bloated) I have been giving him Pedialyte since yesterday at 1 am trying to rehydrate him. I do not have a car and my dad is not willing to help me my local per stores do not have Sbilac (at least petsmart) I will check the others that are close (petco And supermarket)I am really scared. I don't want to lose him but I have 0 dollars on my account rigth now.

You're in Florida.
Where?

[ques96]

Where in Florida are you? I have smaller syringes and supplies if you are near me.

[cava]

Yes, let someone near you help you. It is not fair to give him the incorrect thing, or wrong amounts because you don't have a ride or resources. I KNOW you are doing your best, I can tell how much you care, but it doesn't do him any good to eat the wrong thing. It will make him sick at the least, or kill him at worst.

Where are you so people can help you?

[Ballenabeluga]

Where in Florida are you? I have smaller syringes and supplies if you are near me.

Thank you so much. I am by the Orlando Area (Altamonte Springs)

[Ballenabeluga]

You're in Florida.
Where?

I am by the Orlando Area (Altamonte Springs) I have been the past two nights checking on him. And I can't lose him. How could I send you pictures of my baby?

[ques96]

Ugh that is and hour and a half from me. Anyone closer?

[cava]

If you have them on your computer you can upload them right into your message box by clicking on the square with a tree in it, see above on the toolbar, and follow the directions to choose and upload a photo from your computer. Hope this helps.

[Ballenabeluga]

Yes, let someone near you help you. It is not fair to give him the incorrect thing, or wrong amounts because you don't have a ride or resources. I KNOW you are doing your best, I can tell how much you care, but it doesn't do him any good to eat the wrong thing. It will make him sick at the least, or kill him at worst.

Where are you so people can help you?
I will go in my bycicle as far as I can to give him the rigth thing. I will return the formula I got si i can get the mo ey back to get what i need and try to find the Sbilac one. I do ride my bike a lot I do not mind to go far to get hi. But, what is best for him? The goat formula or the Sbilac powder. I do give him the Fox valley as soon as it arrives.

[Coralreefer]

I will be in Orlando tomorrow but it would be great if there was someone there that could look at him for you and get you some stuff today.

Let me see if someone can

[Coralreefer]

I am by the Orlando Area (Altamonte Springs) I have been the past two nights checking on him. And I can't lose him. How could I send you pictures of my baby?

I private messaged you an email.
Just email them to me and I can do it.

[cava]

You are resourceful, that's great. How much will you get back from the formula you bought? Get what is closest and easiest for you. I know you can't afford the scale right now so photos next to a ruler or quarters or something will help us tell you what amount to feed. Around here a can of powdered Puppy Esbilac is around $20.

You might want to make sure a store has goat's milk before you go.

[ques96]

In a pinch you can go to Walmart and get Meyenberg goat's milk along with full fat vanilla yogurt. If you are able to get these items they will work until you get the fox valley. Let us Know and we can walk you through the mixing.293138

[Nancy in New York]

Here's a post that was made on another thread.
This woman needs help so I'm sure she couldn't take yours, but perhaps she could at least access your little one if she is close by.

I just got off the phone with Maryjane, a home rehabber, in Altamonte Springs. She has 150 babies and could use some help finding foster rehabbers. If there's anyone in the Central Florida area that can help please call her at 407-260-6137. Leave a message.

Unfortunately, myself and another small Orlando rehabbing organization had already made arrangements to take some of the Blue Pearl babies that Coralreefer asked for help with. If anyone has social media rehabbing friends in the Central Florida area, please put a request out for some help for this lady.

Thank you. :hug

[Ballenabeluga]

If you have them on your computer you can upload them right into your message box by clicking on the square with a tree in it, see above on the toolbar, and follow the directions to choose and upload a photo from your computer. Hope this helps.

My email is this one Nicoleandrea.carrillo@gmail.com I am using my phone could someone please email me to send the pictures? I am trying to find the personal messages here but I am not sure where it is. I am sorry everyone. I am a mess rigth now. The only thing I know is that I love him already and I will do my best for him

[Ballenabeluga]

I will be in Orlando tomorrow but it would be great if there was someone there that could look at him for you and get you some stuff today.

Let me see if someone can

Thank you. That would be awesome. I know you sent me a message I just don't know where to see it! I am sorry. Thank you. Is my first time in a forum ever.

[Nancy in New York]

My email is this one Nicoleandrea.carrillo@gmail.com I am using my phone could someone please email me to send the pictures? I am trying to find the personal messages here but I am not sure where it is. I am sorry everyone. I am a mess rigth now. The only thing I know is that I love him already and I will do my best for him

Your doing fine honey.
Here's where the private messages are, green arrow.
Just click this on, and then click on your message.
On the bottom right it will say, Reply to message, hit that.
Type what you want, scroll down a little and hit submit message.

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[Ballenabeluga]

Your doing fine honey.
Here's where the private messages are, green arrow.
Just click this on, and then click on your message.
On the bottom right it will say, Reply to message, hit that.
Type what you want, scroll down a little and hit submit message.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Zn2BD3z/0/fb7410be/M/i-Zn2BD3z-M.jpg
Thank you so so much. I just sent the pics.

[Ballenabeluga]

You are resourceful, that's great. How much will you get back from the formula you bought? Get what is closest and easiest for you. I know you can't afford the scale right now so photos next to a ruler or quarters or something will help us tell you what amount to feed. Around here a can of powdered Puppy Esbilac is around $20.

You might want to make sure a store has goat's milk before you go.

Thank you. Let me get the ruler. I have a balance but My boyfriend have him rigth now. I could weight him later today when he gets home.

[Ballenabeluga]

Thank you. Let me get the ruler. I have a balance but My boyfriend have him rigth now. I could weight him later today when he gets home.

I will get back around 26 dollars

[UDoWhat]

I would not get the Esbilac. If he gets bloat we are dealing with someone who cannot quickly get gas-x and evey other thing they need. If you use a big syringe you will aspirate him and that will kill him if you can't get antibiotics within hours. Do you have a way to get a Vet to sell you antibiotics? They are expensive. About $50 Please get the goats milk formula ingredients and use that until the FV 20/50 comes. Baby squirrels die if fed FV 32/40.

Baby squirrels take $100s of dollars to raise. Do you go to school? This baby is about 3 1/2 weeks old. It needs to be fed every 3 1/2 hours all day and all night. Can you feed all day and night too? Please let someone help you. This baby should have a chance to live. If you really love him please give him to a person in your area that can take care of him. We will help you find someone. You are a wonderful young person to try but it takes all of your time and all of your $$$. It doesn't sound like you will get that support.

Thanks for trying to help him. :Love_Icon Let us help find someone to help you. :Love_Icon

[Ballenabeluga]

I would not get the Esbilac. If he gets bloat we are dealing with someone who cannot quickly get gas-x and evey other thing they need. If you use a big syringe you will aspirate him and that will kill him if you can't get antibiotics within hours. Do you have a way to get a Vet to sell you antibiotics? They are expensive. About $50 Please get the goats milk formula ingredients and use that until the FV 20/50 comes. Baby squirrels die if fed FV 32/40.

Baby squirrels take $100s of dollars to raise. Do you go to school? This baby is about 3 1/2 weeks old. It needs to be fed every 3 1/2 hours all day and all night. Can you feed all day and night too? Please let someone help you. This baby should have a chance to live. If you really love him please give him to a person in your area that can take care of him. We will help you find someone. You are a wonderful young person to try but it takes all of your time and all of your $$$. It doesn't sound like you will get that support.

Thanks for trying to help him. :Love_Icon Let us help find someone to help you. :Love_Icon

I got the rigth Fox Valley formula. I have a nipple on the syringe just little drops come out. I know that I cannot use a big hole for him an anything like that. I could go an get other syringe. I have the time. To take care of him. I have been feeding him all nigth too. I am making sure he is not bloated I stimulate him before and after of feeding him. I will go get the goat milk rigth now. To feed him that until fox valley arrives. Do you guys think that would be ok? He does not have a clicking sound when he breathes.

[Coralreefer]

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[Coralreefer]

He looks good to me as far as bloat IMO.
I don't see anything visually that concerns me.
Anyone else?

[Coralreefer]

Can you put your ear up to him.
Listen for any clicking.
Pnuemonia from laying in puddles in the storm or from people that aspirated him through improper feeding is a big risk. Probably the number one reason rescue squirrels do not make it. Listen for a clicking noise when he breathes.

[cava]

I think he looks good, nice soft belly. Needs some plumping up.

[Coralreefer]

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[Ballenabeluga]

Can you put your ear up to him.
Listen for any clicking.
Pnuemonia from laying in puddles in the storm or from people that aspirated him through improper feeding is a big risk. Probably the number one reason rescue squirrels do not make it. Listen for a clicking noise when he breathes.

I already did! Any sound clicking and he does not open his mouth to breathe. He only does this guppy mouth thing. But, I read in a post that it was Normal she. They are eating and he only does it when he is eating.

[Ballenabeluga]

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By now I am at Petsmart. I called a friend to give me a ride . Should I still change the formula for the goat milk in powder?

[Coralreefer]

Ok Ballen.

The heating pad.
Take it out of the box and place it under.
You don't want them right on top of it.
Place the heating pad under half of the box.
That way the little one can move to heat or off heat if he's uncomfortable.
Place the temp setting on low or if it goes by numbers place it on 1.
Is the heating pad one that has a switch to keep on constantly or is it just a 2 hour timer one?

The syringe.
That definitely is too big.
It's easy even for an experienced rehabber to aspirate (too much milk flowing into the squirrel and they breathe it into their lungs) the squirrel. We need to get you some 1cc. syringes. If possible get to a drug store or a Target and ask for a 1cc syringe. They will give you a few for free if you say you found a hurt baby animal you are helping.

The formula you got is a problem.

The pedialyte is fine. You don't want to use it for an extended amount of time though. Just a couple applications. His hair isn't spikey though so he may not need anymore rehydration. Just nutrition.

[UDoWhat]

He seens very skinny and the last picture he looks pretty lifeless. Maybe I need to look again but he is very dehydrated. Also no normal muscle mass on his little legs suggests wasting from not enough calories or food. Even if the nipple is small, the big syringe delivers too much volume. It really isnt how slow you go you can't change how much is pushed through the big syringe. Go to the pharmacy and get a 1 cc syringe. Tell them you are feeding kittens. They may help but squirrels they mostly likely won't. I would start looking for antibiotics right now. You will aspirate him with a big syringe. No question about it. You need Baytril or Clavamox (animal drug) or you can substitute Cipro / Augmentin ( human drugs). Amoxicillin will work if nothing else If he is clicking you need to start these drugs now ...today. He cant wait. He will die.
You are feeding with a 30 cc syringe at least. You can't feed or dose meds with that. 2 tablespoons = 30 ml (cc).

[Coralreefer]

Ok Ballen.

A board member close to you has agreed to help you.
She will meet you and look at the squirrel and help you with supplies.

Check your PM for her number!

[Ballenabeluga]

He seens very skinny and the last picture he looks pretty lifeless. Maybe I need to look again but he is very dehydrated. Also no normal muscle mass on his little legs suggests wasting from not enough calories or food. Even if the nipple is small, the big syringe delivers too much volume. It really isnt how slow you go you can't change how much is pushed through the big syringe. Go to the pharmacy and get a 1 cc syringe. Tell them you are feeding kittens. They may help but squirrels they mostly likely won't. I would start looking for antibiotics right now. You will aspirate him with a big syringe. No question about it. You need Baytril or Clavamox (animal drug) or you can substitute Cipro / Augmentin ( human drugs). Amoxicillin will work if nothing else If he is clicking you need to start these drugs now ...today. He cant wait. He will die.
You are feeding with a 30 cc syringe at least. You can't feed or dose meds with that. 2 tablespoons = 30 ml (cc).


Ok, I am going to get the small syringe and the goat milk rigth now. He is skinny but he is still very active and he is very happy when is feeding time. He was sleeping when I pick him up. So probably that is why he seems that way. I have done the hydratation test so many times and his skin is a lot more flexible now and it goes back. I already returned the formula. I am at Wal-Mart looking for the goat milk and the syringe.

[UDoWhat]

I didn't see if you said if your heating pad is an auto shut off. You have to get one that does not shut off after 2 or 3 hours. It needs to stay on all the time and be set to low only.

Please start looking for antibiotics from neighbors, friends, family, or in your family's medicine cabinet. When you need them there is no time to look for them. You need to have them on hand. We all aspirate babies. It happens. I just fed my babies and milk came out one of my baby's nose. I will be listening all day and will start antibiotics in a nanosecond if i hear a click or he doesn't want to eat or becomes lethargic. You need to find at least 1 pill. We can help dose it. You only will need a small bit but you must have someone who can help you dose it.

As a rule of thumb most rehabbers I have talked to in FL are starting antibiotics as soon as the babies come in to rehab. Almost all have pneumonia. I would follow suit

[ques96]

Update:

I have been communicating with Ballenabeluga via telephone and text. She stated a member was going to meet her tomorrow or Wednesday. She was able to get the goat's milk and full fat organic vanilla yogurt as well as a scale. The little boy weighs 38 grams. He is very underweight. She had been giving pedalyite to rehydrated and flush the bad formula out. His skin does not tent. I have walked her through mixing the goat's milk and yogurt 3 to 1 and will be holding off on the heavy cream until the diarrhea is completely resolved. The stool is already firming up and looking better. I have walked her through 2 feedings so far and he has taken 2.5 ccs. He is a very eager eater and is very vocal when it is time to eat. She will be weighing him once a day prior to feeding in the morning and charting his weight gain so that feedings can be adjusted accordingly. The heating pad has been moved to the outside of the box and placed under half. She will be getting a tote to replace the box. I have offered to go to her if there are any issues or suspect clicking ( I have antibiotics) but so far no aspirations. She is very dedicated to this baby and very eager and willing to learn.

[UDoWhat]

Wondering how this baby is today? He is really skinny. Poor little baby. :Love_Icon I wonder if a re- feeding syndrome protocal should be considered here? With him being as starved as he was/is he may need less cc's more frequently. With squirrel babies this starved, as with humans that are starved, it is advised to not feed regular amounts. The mainstay of re- feeding treatment is "start slow and go low". I think I would go under 5% a bit and feed more often for a few days working up to larger amounts so the gut can be reintroduced to food without causing upset. Also it is advised to add fat to the diet and avoid carbohydrates. I took several classes from the NWRA dealing with re-feeding starved babies called "When feeding kills". My questions are based on this information. Wondering?

[ques96]

Wondering how this baby is today? He is really skinny. Poor little baby. :Love_Icon I wonder if a re- feeding syndrome protocal should be considered here? With him being as starved as he was/is he may need less cc's more frequently. With squirrel babies this starved, as with humans that are starved, it is advised to not feed regular amounts. The mainstay of re- feeding treatment is "start slow and go low". I think I would go under 5% a bit and feed more often for a few days working up to larger amounts so the gut can be reintroduced to food without causing upset. Also it is advised to add fat to the diet and avoid carbohydrates. I took several classes from the NWRA dealing with re-feeding starved babies called "When feeding kills". My questions are based on this information. Wondering?

A member of the squirrel board was to meet Ballenabeluga today to check on the baby and give her formula. I have been working with the finder to try and reverse the effects of the incorrect formula.
When first contact was made with Ballenabeluga the baby had pretty bad diarrhea so I had her hold off on adding the heavy cream until the diarrhea improved a bit. The finder fed through the night with water in between feedings and she states he has tolerated the feedings well. As of 2:30 today his stool has started to form with less diarrhea and the genital irritation has improved. His urine output is good. I have attached pictures sent to me by the finder. One of the starting stool diarrhea and on from today on the tissue. She said his activity is improved. I am not sure what member was to visit but hopefully they were able to lay eyes and hands on the baby to get a better idea of his condition.293368293369293370293371

[Ballenabeluga]

Hello everyone, just wabted to update on little Isaac Nutton. He is doing very well. He opened both eyes. The day before yesterday and he is learning how to walk. He used to weight 38 grams, now he weigths 59. I am so so grateful with the squirrelboard and the people who have helped me and the member who came to check on him. I cannot explain how grateful I am for this. He has other heating pad (Which does not turns off every 40 minutes) He has a cozy cage and we have fully transfered to Fox Valley sucessfully. If someone contacts me again I would love to send pictures of him. (I still dont know how to attach them here. I am sorry) thank you so much to everyone. And I almost forgot! He is doing yellow solid little pellets! And peeing every time he eats!

[Mel1959]

What a great update! Glad to hear everything is going well.

To post pictures: if you scroll down below the square that has your typed message, you will see a heavy black line. Below that is a box that says "manage attachments" when you click on it a new page will open and on the right side will be a green + sign that says "add files". Click on that and an oval button will appear that says "choose file". Once you click on that you can load your photo from your library of photos. Another button will say "done" once the photo has loaded, or you can add more pictures. When your done adding pictures you can click on the "preview post" button and your pictures should appear with your text. Then just click the "submit reply" button.

[BigNibbler]

How is I.N doing today ?

[ques96]

I have attached the pictures that Ballenabeluga sent to me on Friday.294311294312

[Nancy in New York]

Precious, absolutely precious. :klunk

[BigNibbler]

Hope he gains more weight and gets big and strong soon.
Its six days later... love to see recent photos.

[Ballenabeluga]

Hello everyone! Just wanted to update in my Isaac Nutton, and ask some questions! He weigths now around 289 grams. He is a chubby boy now. He is around 13 weeks old. He is eating 2 Hebey Blocks per day of the adult formula. And he has a 55" inches cage indoors. We will be getting a cat tree of 72" on Wednesday. He is eating his vegetables! (My only question is how much of his weigth in vegetables should i give him) also, I am not giving him any calcium supplement becasue I am giving him his daily 2 blocks. And, how many times a day should I feed him? I usually put a little bowl of food in the morning not throughout the day. He is a very sweet boy. I am very thankful with everyone that help us. I can't believe how better he is now! I have a picture of him in my album called I.N!https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=296486&d=1511871222

[cava]

He looks great, like a plump, happy squirrel...waiting for a treat for letting you take a picture!:blowkiss I know you had a lot of stress and had to work really hard to get him to this point. Keep asking questions and posting updates.

Here's my schedule (for 10-11 week old foursome) Formula first thing in the morning adding new bowls of boo balls (blocks essentially), veggies and a little bowl of full fat vanilla yogurt. They won't drink formula out of a bowl so I try to keep something "like" formula in the cage.

In the afternoon or when their bowl is empty (usually early afternoon) they get a new bowl of veggies and boo balls.

In the evening they usually have a lot left in the bowl and that's when they get their second bottle feeding. I make sure they ALWAYS have plain old rodent blocks and water in the cage at all times so when they eat the other stuff they have a back up.

Hope that helps with your schedule. I'm sure others will chime in. You don't have to add calcium if you are giving formula and hhb's. I take a fruit flavored tums and break it up and give them pieces for a treat, which they seem to really like. You could do that if you're concerned.

Are you planning to overwinter and release in the spring? Send us pics of your new cage. I just got a new one and it was so fun to fix up!! Be sure to ask questions if you're unsure about a certain material. They chew EVERYTHING.

[island rehabber]

He looks wonderful :w00t:dance Good job, and I know it's been a tough one. :great

[Ballenabeluga]

He looks great, like a plump, happy squirrel...waiting for a treat for letting you take a picture!:blowkiss I know you had a lot of stress and had to work really hard to get him to this point. Keep asking questions and posting updates.

Here's my schedule (for 10-11 week old foursome) Formula first thing in the morning adding new bowls of boo balls (blocks essentially), veggies and a little bowl of full fat vanilla yogurt. They won't drink formula out of a bowl so I try to keep something "like" formula in the cage.

In the afternoon or when their bowl is empty (usually early afternoon) they get a new bowl of veggies and boo balls.

In the evening they usually have a lot left in the bowl and that's when they get their second bottle feeding. I make sure they ALWAYS have plain old rodent blocks and water in the cage at all times so when they eat the other stuff they have a back up.

Hope that helps with your schedule. I'm sure others will chime in. You don't have to add calcium if you are giving formula and hhb's. I take a fruit flavored tums and break it up and give them pieces for a treat, which they seem to really like. You could do that if you're concerned.

Are you planning to overwinter and release in the spring? Send us pics of your new cage. I just got a new one and it was so fun to fix up!! Be sure to ask questions if you're unsure about a certain material. They chew EVERYTHING.

Thank you! This was really helpful. To be honest, this is my first time seeing the boo balls reciept. I ran out of Fox Valley. But, it arrived yesterday so I will start to give it to him again. Do we have any special receipt foe the boo balls or is it the same everywhere? I will have to get some things but I will get it done. Well, I actually would like to keep him. He is a very good boy still. But, I will let him decide what he wants. In the meantime yes, I am planning to overwinter him. In case he changes his mind and wants to be wild! He has a lot of toys and things to chew on. Thay is why we have been ok. A headphoens destroyer for sure. My only trouble. And a little mess maker. My vaccum is tired. She now works every other day�� Here is a picture of our new cage! Qhttps://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=296488&d=1511879378 The thing in top is not supposed to be there. Is the old cage waiting for being picking up. But the new one has a little door in the top so he can get to a little cat toy that he has there. And the huge cat tree will arrive tomorrow.

[Mommas Munchkins]

Hello everyone! Just wanted to update in my Isaac Nutton, and ask some questions! He weigths now around 289 grams. He is a chubby boy now. He is around 13 weeks old. He is eating 2 Hebey Blocks per day of the adult formula. And he has a 55" inches cage indoors. We will be getting a cat tree of 72" on Wednesday. He is eating his vegetables! (My only question is how much of his weigth in vegetables should i give him) also, I am not giving him any calcium supplement becasue I am giving him his daily 2 blocks. And, how many times a day should I feed him? I usually put a little bowl of food in the morning not throughout the day. He is a very sweet boy. I am very thankful with everyone that help us. I can't believe how better he is now! I have a picture of him in my album called I.N!https://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=296486&d=1511871222

Oh my so precious you have done a fantastic job mommy! 😍:blowkiss

[Ballenabeluga]

Oh my so precious you have done a fantastic job mommy! 😍:blowkiss

Thank yo so much! The squirrel board have thaugth me a lot!

[Mel1959]

Great job! :great:great He looks perfect!

[Mel1959]

Thank you! This was really helpful. To be honest, this is my first time seeing the boo balls reciept. I ran out of Fox Valley. But, it arrived yesterday so I will start to give it to him again. Do we have any special receipt foe the boo balls or is it the same everywhere? I will have to get some things but I will get it done. Well, I actually would like to keep him. He is a very good boy still. But, I will let him decide what he wants. In the meantime yes, I am planning to overwinter him. In case he changes his mind and wants to be wild! He has a lot of toys and things to chew on. Thay is why we have been ok. A headphoens destroyer for sure. My only trouble. And a little mess maker. My vaccum is tired. She now works every other day�� Here is a picture of our new cage! Qhttps://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=296488&d=1511879378 The thing in top is not supposed to be there. Is the old cage waiting for being picking up. But the new one has a little door in the top so he can get to a little cat toy that he has there. And the huge cat tree will arrive tomorrow.

There are several recipes in the Nutrition section. I think they are basically the same. I grind Harlan Teklad 2018 block and mix it with some ground nuts, powdered formula, a little calcium powder and sometimes powdered peanut butter. Then I mix in enough baby food (either fruit or fruit/veggie combo) and coconut oil to make it a stiff moldable consistency. After refrigerating it for awhile you should be able to roll it into a ball and have it stick together. Some folks freeze the boo balls and give them to their squirrels frozen.

[Ballenabeluga]

Thank you Mel!:serene

[Ballenabeluga]

I found a receipt. But, It does not tell me wich probiotics should I use. Which one and how mucb should I give him?

[Mel1959]

I don’t put probiotics in my boo balls. I don’t think they need them all the time, only if their gut flora is upset from antibiotics or diarrhea. Then we give an amount that is the size of this 0. You can alwYs offer vanilla whole milk yogurt. Many squirrels love it.

[cava]

I ground up Harlan Teklad 2018 rodent blocks, 1 cup. Add a handful of nuts chopped to almost "salt" consistency in the food processor, a tablespoon of coconut oil and different flavor baby foods to taste. Mine refused them cold or wet from the fridge so I bake them in the oven like you would cookies, removing often to roll them around never letting one side become darker than the other sides. About four then move them around, then four minutes. Usually about 12-16 minutes. Let them cool on the counter and they should be fairly "hard" and store them in a tupperware with a paper towel to absorb moisture and good for about 5 days in the fridge. Hope that helps. I think everyone puts their own twist on the boo balls. I don't add probiotics or calcium at this point.