Is this squirrel pox?

[Kit-Ten]

I'm having trouble attaching pix of the squirrel's lesions. I will keep trying.

Found 2 baby squirrels on the ground. I have been hydrating and warming them according to the Squirrel Tales site by Sarah Rowe. About 4 weeks by my guess--maybe a bit younger. I've had them almost a week and their eyes are still closed. They are still not completely hydrated but I'm giving them formula watered down by a quarter and try to get them to drink a little plain water 2 or 3 times a day between meals.

I have them in a small cardboard box padded with paper towel and tissues on top of a small animal heating pad. I pulled the heating pad out from under the box enough to provide unheated 1/3 space in case they got hot. 3 days ago I found the little boy out of the box on the naked part of the heating pad. I was horrified to find blisters on his tummy. I rearranged and covered everything so this cannot happen again but now both squirrels have lumps and blisters. I'm beginning to think that the blisters and bumps are not from the heating pad but from squirrel pox and that the discomfort from the pox is why he was toasting his tummy. I've been reading everything I can find on the internet about squirrel pox and now am 99% convinced that is it. I'd like to be able to post pix to get confirmation. I've raised baby squirrel rescues before and have never come across this.

If anyone can help me post the pix, please help. Meantime I'll keep trying.
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[ALittleNutty]

I'm having trouble attaching pix of the squirrel's lesions. I will keep trying.

Found 2 baby squirrels on the ground. I have been hydrating and warming them according to the Squirrel Tales site by Sarah Rowe. About 4 weeks by my guess--maybe a bit younger. I've had them almost a week and their eyes are still closed. They are still not completely hydrated but I'm giving them formula watered down by a quarter and try to get them to drink a little plain water 2 or 3 times a day between meals.

I have them in a small cardboard box padded with paper towel and tissues on top of a small animal heating pad. I pulled the heating pad out from under the box enough to provide unheated 1/3 space in case they got hot. 3 days ago I found the little boy out of the box on the naked part of the heating pad. I was horrified to find blisters on his tummy. I rearranged and covered everything so this cannot happen again but now both squirrels have lumps and blisters. I'm beginning to think that the blisters and bumps are not from the heating pad but from squirrel pox and that the discomfort from the pox is why he was toasting his tummy. I've been reading everything I can find on the internet about squirrel pox and now am 99% convinced that is it. I'd like to be able to post pix to get confirmation. I've raised baby squirrel rescues before and have never come across this.

If anyone can help me post the pix, please help. Meantime I'll keep trying.
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First I have never dealt with pox so I can't confirm that is what it is. It could be mange, too much heat or something else. Are there lesions just on the lower sides or do they have them all over? What temp is the heating pad set on? It should be on low and under half the container. You can place a dish rag or hand towel under the unheated part to make the container level.

What help I can offer is they should be in a deep plastic container with lots of fleece to burrow in. The cardboard, paper towels and tissues are causing them to dry out. I would add a small container with a moist sponge in it to their container to boost the humidity levels. It can be a baby food jar with holes poked in the lid or something similar just as long as they can't tip it over and get hurt.

Until we figure out what this is some coconut oil or even olive oil could be applied to sooth their skin.

[Daisey007]

I'm by no means an expert on Pox but it doesn't quite look like pox to me. I reminds me of some babies I once had that laid in their own urine and it caused... um, um, um... omg, the name escapes me! Anyway, it looked raw and blistery but once cleaned and kept clean it dried up and cleared up. Let's hope... :blowkiss

[Nancy in New York]

First I have never dealt with pox so I can't confirm that is what it is. It could be mange, too much heat or something else. Are there lesions just on the lower sides or do they have them all over? What temp is the heating pad set on? It should be on low and under half the container. You can place a dish rag or hand towel under the unheated part to make the container level.

What help I can offer is they should be in a deep plastic container with lots of fleece to burrow in. The cardboard, paper towels and tissues are causing them to dry out. I would add a small container with a moist sponge in it to their container to boost the humidity levels. It can be a baby food jar with holes poked in the lid or something similar just as long as they can't tip it over and get hurt.

Until we figure out what this is some coconut oil or even olive oil could be applied to sooth their skin.

Great advice.:w00t
What formula are you feeding, what amount, and how often?
These little ones look bloated to me.
The first one appears to have a hard tummy while
the second just seems large.
Are you stimulating them after every feeding?
What setting is the heating pad on?
These appear like blisters to me.
Are they on other areas or just the tummies?

[redwuff]

Are there any lesions around their eyes or any place else other than their belly?

Some one else asked, what level is the heating pad on...

Wonder if it could be staph?

[Kit-Ten]

Thank you for the advice. I am feeding them Esbilac with a little whipping cream in the proportions spelled out on the Squirrel Tales site. This formula worked great on my last three baby squirrels who have since been released and still sometimes visit.

I've been giving them all they are willing to take and then rub their tummies with a special ointment Inotyol from France. It is great for healing scrapes, cuts and burns. They love it and relax. And the stimulation usually brings urine and poop. The reason I feel they are still dehydrated is that their poop is still hard little pellets instead of the soft poop I've been expecting. Getting them to take a little water between meals seems to increase urination and pooping so I think that is good. Their tummies are soft and not nearly as huge as they seem in the pictures. I also rub on a little Neosporin sometimes to keep the lesions from getting infected. The Inotyol is white and accentuates the scabs. I hope it doesn't make it hard to tell what is wrong.

[Kit-Ten]

Great advice.:w00t
What formula are you feeding, what amount, and how often?
These little ones look bloated to me.
The first one appears to have a hard tummy while
the second just seems large.
Are you stimulating them after every feeding?
What setting is the heating pad on?
These appear like blisters to me.
Are they on other areas or just the tummies?

The heating pad is a small animal warming pad with only the very low setting. They have a few bumps on their backs but so far they haven't broken the skin. They start out like white bumps under the skin. I feed them every 3 hours. More often than that they aren't willing to wake up. Later they panic.

[Kit-Ten]

Are there any lesions around their eyes or any place else other than their belly?

Some one else asked, what level is the heating pad on...

Wonder if it could be staph?

So far no lesions around the eyes, cross my fingers! A few bumps on their backs but I've been rubbing them with ointment and they don't seem to be getting worse. The heating pad is a small K & H pad for using in heated cat and dog beds. It doesn't get very hot and the squirrels never want to got to the unheated parts of the nest.

[Kit-Ten]

The heating pad is a small animal warming pad with only the very low setting. They have a few bumps on their backs but so far they haven't broken the skin. They start out like white bumps under the skin. I feed them every 3 hours. More often than that they aren't willing to wake up. Later they panic.

I first thought they were blisters from the heating pad but the original ones are healing and new ones keep cropping up.

Thank you all for your help!

[ALittleNutty]

Thank you for the advice. I am feeding them Esbilac with a little whipping cream in the proportions spelled out on the Squirrel Tales site. This formula worked great on my last three baby squirrels who have since been released and still sometimes visit.

I've been giving them all they are willing to take and then rub their tummies with a special ointment Inotyol from France. It is great for healing scrapes, cuts and burns. They love it and relax. And the stimulation usually brings urine and poop. The reason I feel they are still dehydrated is that their poop is still hard little pellets instead of the soft poop I've been expecting. Getting them to take a little water between meals seems to increase urination and pooping so I think that is good. Their tummies are soft and not nearly as huge as they seem in the pictures. I also rub on a little Neosporin sometimes to keep the lesions from getting infected. The Inotyol is white and accentuates the scabs. I hope it doesn't make it hard to tell what is wrong.

They shouldn't eat all they can take as this can lead to bloating. 5-7% of weight is the norm and slightly over is okay as long as they don't bloat. Overfeeding can lead to runny stool.

I looked up Inotyol and it seems to be a mixture of zinc oxide and ichthammol, which is a "drawing" agent. It's probably okay to use.
Are you cleaning them up well after eating? Formula can actually harm their skin and cause fur loss if left on just like urine can.

Another possibility is that this is staph.

With burns it's not unlikely for blisters to show up in stages but since they have them on their backs too I am having my doubts about it being the heat.

[redwuff]

Has the lesions shown any movement toward healing

[redwuff]

Is the heating 'pad' a hard black plastic that has no temperature control but just plug into electricity?

[Kit-Ten]

I'm by no means an expert on Pox but it doesn't quite look like pox to me. I reminds me of some babies I once had that laid in their own urine and it caused... um, um, um... omg, the name escapes me! Anyway, it looked raw and blistery but once cleaned and kept clean it dried up and cleared up. Let's hope... :blowkiss

Thank you Daisey! It would be so great if they could heal on their own. I keep them clean and dry. They have not been urinating a lot (except when I am holding them) and once overnight it soaked through to the cardboard but I have them on several layers of kleenex so I don't think they got wet.

I also clean them every day with colloidal silver which should kill viruses and bacteria. And it is very safe.

[Kit-Ten]

Is the heating 'pad' a hard black plastic that has no temperature control but just plug into electricity?

No, it is a flexible tan but it has no temperature control and just plugs into electricity. It is supposed to be safe for cat beds. You can hardly feel that it is on unless the cat is lying on it and then most of the heat comes from the cat!

I have other heating pads but they have controls and higher temps and I read where they can malfunction. I'm constantly checking. They were so cold the first couple of days. I had to hold them to warm them up before putting them in the box. Now they seem to be staying warm. Of course I still hold them whenever I can.

[Kit-Ten]

They shouldn't eat all they can take as this can lead to bloating. 5-7% of weight is the norm and slightly over is okay as long as they don't bloat. Overfeeding can lead to runny stool.

I looked up Inotyol and it seems to be a mixture of zinc oxide and ichthammol, which is a "drawing" agent. It's probably okay to use.
Are you cleaning them up well after eating? Formula can actually harm their skin and cause fur loss if left on just like urine can.

Another possibility is that this is staph.

With burns it's not unlikely for blisters to show up in stages but since they have them on their backs too I am having my doubts about it being the heat.

I am drying them off after eating and wrapping them in fresh kleenex. Maybe I should run a damp cotton over them to make sure there is no formul remaining. And I'll definitely back off encouraging them to eat if they get runny stool. Right now their little pellets are so hard it worries me.

[Kit-Ten]

Has the lesions shown any movement toward healing
Yes! Some have pretty much disappeared. Most have scabbed and I'm not seeing new bumps under the skin. Of course, with all the scabbing they could be there but not easy to see.

[ALittleNutty]

I am drying them off after eating and wrapping them in fresh kleenex. Maybe I should run a damp cotton over them to make sure there is no formul remaining. And I'll definitely back off encouraging them to eat if they get runny stool. Right now their little pellets are so hard it worries me.

Of course I haven't dealt with anything that looks like this but my skin care for them consists of a bath every few days with a drop of Dawn, wiping them with unscented baby wipes after feedings and a little coconut oil about once a week if needed.

Like I said in my first post I would move them to fleece bedding or old t-shirts in a plastic bin. The paper products can be contributing to the dehydration.

[redwuff]

Is there a reason you are keeping them in Kleenex? Does the Kleenex have lotion infused in it? When did these lesions appear?

Sorry for the million questions, but this is a stumper. It does not appear to be like any pox I've seen.

[redwuff]

I just looked up k and h small animal heating pad and those pads are often used to keep animals warm outdoors in the winter. If this is what your little darlings are on it might be just too hot for them. When you rescued other babies, did you use this heating pad?

[Rocky1]

Burns
Put your hand on the heating pad after it's been on for a while just to make sure it's not getting too hot and that there are no hot spots. Some people put a good pile of fleece, t-shirts, and/or flannel as well between the baby and the heating pad as additional protection from overheating.

Allergies
To safeguard against allergies, I personally only wash squirrel laundry with unscented detergent and double or triple rinse it. To my understanding, some squirrels have very sensitive skin and are sensitive to chemicals and require well-rinsed stuff free of scents, free of lotions, etc.

Something Else
I will defer to the others about any possibility that this could be caused by a fungus or parasite. If so, I suspect there will be a medication remedy for that, and nothing more serious than what a cat or dog might come down with.

Not Pox, IMO
Does NOT look like pox to me. The pox that I have seen has been redish bumps, and in advanced stages, redish bumps sometimes with accompanying crustiness, nothing like this, IMO.

[Daisey007]

I honestly believe it's from urine. If you look close, the male has it all over his underside but the female has it on her lower areas the most. This is bc his penis is centrally located in the center of his body so the urine spreads out evenly over his underside, and of course, hers is located lower as is most of her scaling.

I would get rid of all the paper. All of it. And put them on fleece, and only fleece... it is cheap, and you can wash it. Plus fleece is very porous and will allow urine to drain away from them thus keeping them dryer. Also, I would stop with the wet wipes. The liquid in those contains alcohol, and is drying out their skin. In fact, don't use anything on them except warm water... NO DAWN! lol... That also dries out delicate skin! Stop with all the lotions too. Not needed. :hug

[ALittleNutty]

I honestly believe it's from urine. If you look close, the male has it all over his underside but the female has it on her lower areas the most. This is bc his penis is centrally located in the center of his body so the urine spreads out evenly over his underside, and of course, hers is located lower as is most of her scaling.

I would get rid of all the paper. All of it. And put them on fleece, and only fleece... it is cheap, and you can wash it. Plus fleece is very porous and will allow urine to drain away from them thus keeping them dryer. Also, I would stop with the wet wipes. The liquid in those contains alcohol, and is drying out their skin. In fact, don't use anything on them except warm water... NO DAWN! lol... That also dries out delicate skin! Stop with all the lotions too. Not needed. :hug

I think things have gotten a little mixed up. The finder is using kleenex to dry them, colloidal silver and a cream that contains zinc oxide and ichthammol. I am almost wondering if it might be an allergic reaction to one or a combination of these things.
I am the one that recommended bathing with a drop of Dawn once a week and the wet wipes. The ones I use do not contain alcohol. I agree plain water is best but I don't feel it removes all of the formula residue.

[Daisey007]

I think things have gotten a little mixed up. The finder is using kleenex to dry them, colloidal silver and a cream that contains zinc oxide and ichthammol. I am almost wondering if it might be an allergic reaction to one or a combination of these things.
I am the one that recommended bathing with a drop of Dawn once a week and the wet wipes. The ones I use do not contain alcohol. I agree plain water is best but I don't feel it removes all of the formula residue.

Sorry for the confusion... I think you're right about the creation of an allergy. I feel that 'less' is better for wildlife (except for fabric softener in their fleece! lol). I just never needed all of that with mine. Messy bottom; off to the sink for warm wash with maybe a half drop of baby wash, and a nice warm (waiting under heating pad) towel. That's all.

[ALittleNutty]

Sorry for the confusion... I think you're right about the creation of an allergy. I feel that 'less' is better for wildlife (except for fabric softener in their fleece! lol). I just never needed all of that with mine. Messy bottom; off to the sink for warm wash with maybe a half drop of baby wash, and a nice warm (waiting under heating pad) towel. That's all.

I'm pretty natural in my approach too. When I say bathing with Dawn it's like a drop in a half gallon of water and rinse, rinse, rinse. I might pick up some baby wash though. Haven't bought that stuff in over 15 years. I do the same trick with the towel under the heating pad. :)

[Kit-Ten]

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Of course I haven't dealt with anything that looks like this but my skin care for them consists of a bath every few days with a drop of Dawn, wiping them with unscented baby wipes after feedings and a little coconut oil about once a week if needed.

Like I said in my first post I would move them to fleece bedding or old t-shirts in a plastic bin. The paper products can be contributing to the dehydration.

Thank you for that. I soaked them both up to their armpits this morning in warm water followed by a wipedown with colloidal silver then dried them off and took fresh pix before recoating tummies with Inotyol. I don't believe they are dehydrated anymore. Their skin springs back after pinching. But I am having second thoughts about the kleenex. I am switching to paper towels which is what I used for the earlier squirrels. I just thought because these were younger they needed something softer. I like the coconut oil idea. I will definitely try that.

[Kit-Ten]

Is there a reason you are keeping them in Kleenex? Does the Kleenex have lotion infused in it? When did these lesions appear?

Sorry for the million questions, but this is a stumper. It does not appear to be like any pox I've seen.

Thank you Redwuff! The kleenex I've been using is Puff's Plus which contains lotion. I was looking for softness because they are so young but allergy would be a definite possibility. I immediately snatched out all the kleenex and replaced it with paper towels which is what I used for the last squirrels and had not problems with. That may not be the problem but better safe than sorry! The lesions appeared the second day after I had wrapped them in tissues.
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[Kit-Ten]

I just looked up k and h small animal heating pad and those pads are often used to keep animals warm outdoors in the winter. If this is what your little darlings are on it might be just too hot for them. When you rescued other babies, did you use this heating pad?

Yes, this is the pad I used with the earlier squirrels. It feels barely warm even with my hand on the naked pad but I have paper towels between the pad and the box and more paper towels lining the box and now paper towels wrapping and covering the babies. The only moving they ever do is toward the heat even though they have 1/3 box with towels but no heating pad.

[ALittleNutty]

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Thank you for that. I soaked them both up to their armpits this morning in warm water followed by a wipedown with colloidal silver then dried them off and took fresh pix before recoating tummies with Inotyol. I don't believe they are dehydrated anymore. Their skin springs back after pinching. But I am having second thoughts about the kleenex. I am switching to paper towels which is what I used for the earlier squirrels. I just thought because these were younger they needed something softer. I like the coconut oil idea. I will definitely try that.

Is there some reason you don't want to use fleece? It keeps them warmer, it doesn't not dehydrate them like paper products and it is much softer on their skin.

I personally would move them to fleece and stop using anything but water to clean them with for a few days and use the coconut oil and see how they do. I would stop using the ointments, as this may be an allergic reaction to either them, the lotion in the kleenex or a combination. Organic coconut oil has some antibacterial properties and it is gentle enough for them.

[Kit-Ten]

I'm pretty natural in my approach too. When I say bathing with Dawn it's like a drop in a half gallon of water and rinse, rinse, rinse. I might pick up some baby wash though. Haven't bought that stuff in over 15 years. I do the same trick with the towel under the heating pad. :)

Thank you Daisey! It never occurred to me to wash the babies. I'm still a little afraid of using Dawn but I soaked them up to their armpits in a bowl of warm water this morning and they loved it! Baby wash sounds good. I'm going grocery shopping tomorrow. Redwuff and Nutty warned me about lotion in the tissues. Allergies or urine would be so much easier to deal with than pox! I'm hoping.

[Kit-Ten]

Is there some reason you don't want to use fleece? It keeps them warmer, it doesn't not dehydrate them like paper products and it is much softer on their skin.

I personally would move them to fleece and stop using anything but water to clean them with for a few days and use the coconut oil and see how they do. I would stop using the ointments, as this may be an allergic reaction to either them, the lotion in the kleenex or a combination. Organic coconut oil has some antibacterial properties and it is gentle enough for them.

Hi Nutty! When you say fleece do you mean polyester batting or sheepskin? Thank you for the warning about the allergic reaction to the lotion in kleenex. I have organic coconut oil. I'm going to try it. It can't hurt and if they get better we'll know what was causing the blisters.

[pappy1264]

Fleece like this: http://www.joann.com/fabric/fleece-fabric/#prefn1=type&prefv1=Anti-pill%20Fleece%20Prints

Stop using the paper products. If you need to dry them a soft cotton towel works best, then put them in clean fleece. Did they come to you like this? Almost looks fungal to me. Pick up some Aloe Juice. It is very soothing for their skin, (heck you could drink it yourself). Oils can block pores in skin, but the aloe juice is absorbed into the skin. You can get it at health food stores.

[pappy1264]

Just to cover your bases, I would get them on some bactrim, as well.

[ALittleNutty]

Hi Nutty! When you say fleece do you mean polyester batting or sheepskin? Thank you for the warning about the allergic reaction to the lotion in kleenex. I have organic coconut oil. I'm going to try it. It can't hurt and if they get better we'll know what was causing the blisters.

It's the polyester. You can find it at Wal-Mart or any store that carries fabric. The no-pill kind is best. I check the remnant sections often for cheap buys. I have also gotten fleece blankets cheap at places like Goodwill and just cut them down to size. Paper products are made of wood fibers and so they are not gentle on delicate skin. That's one reason you don't clean glasses with paper towels, they scratch the lenses.

Just stop all the other creams for a few days, get them on some fleece or flannel and let's see if this improves. By eliminating these possible causes it will make it easier to figure out.

When I recommended bathing with Dawn it's only 1 drop in at least a half gallon of water and rinse, rinse, rinse in clean water being sure to get up under their necks, armpits and all the other creases. No more often than once a week. As soon as they are rinsed make sure they are completely dry and I usually put a piece of fleece under my heating pad to warm it up to use as a drying towel. We don't ever want them to get chilled.

[Kit-Ten]

Fleece like this: http://www.joann.com/fabric/fleece-fabric/#prefn1=type&prefv1=Anti-pill%20Fleece%20Prints

Stop using the paper products. If you need to dry them a soft cotton towel works best, then put them in clean fleece. Did they come to you like this? Almost looks fungal to me. Pick up some Aloe Juice. It is very soothing for their skin, (heck you could drink it yourself). Oils can block pores in skin, but the aloe juice is absorbed into the skin. You can get it at health food stores.

OMG! I had tons of that stuff. I just took it all to Goodwill last week. I've stopped sewing now that my granddaughter is a teenager. I'll look for scraps I may have missed. Otherwise I'll use the little fleece blankies I made for her when she was a baby.

[ALittleNutty]

OMG! I had tons of that stuff. I just took it all to Goodwill last week. I've stopped sewing now that my granddaughter is a teenager. I'll look for scraps I may have missed. Otherwise I'll use the little fleece blankies I made for her when she was a baby.

Yep, that's the way it goes. You don't need it until you get rid of it. Since you sew you will probably have fun making all sorts of things for these little ones.

I think you will see a big difference moving them to the blankies and out of the paper. Nothing sweeter than little squirrels all cuddled up in a pile of fleece.

[Kit-Ten]

Okay, they are now slathered with coconut oil and tucked into a fleece blankie. They didn't enjoy the coconut oil like they did the Inotyol--kept squirming instead of passing out asleep. But if it makes a difference in their lesions they will learn to like it! And they are insulated from the heating pad by at least an inch and a half of fleece. I'll keep checking to make sure they don't get cold

[Kit-Ten]

Okay, they are now slathered with coconut oil and tucked into a fleece blankie. They didn't enjoy the coconut oil like they did the Inotyol--kept squirming instead of passing out asleep. But if it makes a difference in their lesions they will learn to like it! And they are insulated from the heating pad by at least an inch and a half of fleece. I'll check often to make sure they don't get cold.

I have "Liquid Immune Barrier." coming from CAOH and Nutriferon from Shaklee arriving tomorrow. Not sure how to give to such tiny ones but I'll keep researching.

[ALittleNutty]

Okay, they are now slathered with coconut oil and tucked into a fleece blankie. They didn't enjoy the coconut oil like they did the Inotyol--kept squirming instead of passing out asleep. But if it makes a difference in their lesions they will learn to like it! And they are insulated from the heating pad by at least an inch and a half of fleece. I'll keep checking to make sure they don't get cold

Sounds great! You might not need that much but since it's not a temp controlled pad they may. The fleece will help contain their own body heat so much better than the paper. Just keep a check and see if they feel warm or chilled and then adjust the thickness if you need to.

[Kit-Ten]

Just to cover your bases, I would get them on some bactrim, as well.

I'll get them some aloe vera when I go shopping tomorrow. I'm a bit worried the coconut oil will block the pores of their skin. I'll look for bactrim too.

[ALittleNutty]

I use coconut oil everyday as a cleanser and moisturizer on my face. It doesn't block the skin. I am prone to acne in my t-zone and dry skin on my forehead and cheeks. Since I started doing this my skin has been clear and almost glows. I've even been asked what my "secret" is. The key is you want organic, unprocessed oil, not the kind you find in the grocery store cooking section.

[ALittleNutty]

Okay, they are now slathered with coconut oil and tucked into a fleece blankie. They didn't enjoy the coconut oil like they did the Inotyol--kept squirming instead of passing out asleep. But if it makes a difference in their lesions they will learn to like it! And they are insulated from the heating pad by at least an inch and a half of fleece. I'll check often to make sure they don't get cold.

I have "Liquid Immune Barrier." coming from CAOH and Nutriferon from Shaklee arriving tomorrow. Not sure how to give to such tiny ones but I'll keep researching.

I haven't use the first item but I have used Nutriferon on occasion. Right now we need to eliminate things that may be causing the issue and adding more things might confuse the situation. I'd wait several days and see how they do with the changes you have made.

[Kit-Ten]

I use coconut oil everyday as a cleanser and moisturizer on my face. It doesn't block the skin. I am prone to acne in my t-zone and dry skin on my forehead and cheeks. Since I started doing this my skin has been clear and almost glows. I've even been asked what my "secret" is. The key is you want organic, unprocessed oil, not the kind you find in the grocery store cooking section.

Thank you Nutty. I might try it myself! The one I have is organic, cold pressed, extra virgin. I have high hopes!

[ALittleNutty]

Thank you Nutty. I might try it myself! The one I have is organic, cold pressed, extra virgin. I have high hopes!

Perfect!!!

[Kit-Ten]

I haven't use the first item but I have used Nutriferon on occasion. Right now we need to eliminate things that may be causing the issue and adding more things might confuse the situation. I'd wait several days and see how they do with the changes you have made.

Great! I found a thread on TSB that said "What saved my poxy squirrels," so I wanted to try. They both seem to be immune strengtheners because the lady said that the pox has to run its course but the squirrel needs to be strong. Even if it turns out not to be pox it seems like a good idea to have a strong squirrel but I am up with waiting to see if coconut oil and fleece make a difference.

[ALittleNutty]

I think if it's an allergic reaction you should see some improvement in just a few days. If not we will try to figure out what next. I just wouldn't add anything topically right now. Sending you a Private Message.

[ALittleNutty]

How are the babies this morning?

[Kit-Ten]

How are the babies this morning?

Hi Nutty! They seem well I'm feeding them less so no fear of bloating but very little pee and poop. I'm going to soak them before their 4 pm feeding. They are eager eaters. I see several new bumps under the little boy's skin but so far they haven't broken through. The little girl has one on her head and a couple on her back. The coconut oil helps and is a lot prettier than the Inotyol! I think the scabs are softening a little. I found a small fleece receiving blankie at Goodwill so there is a lot less fleece between them and the heating pad. They don't seem to be drying out or dehydrating but I'm looking for a plastic container that will fit in the squirrel cage and still provide easy access. I'll post pix after their bath. Thank you for posting the 6 page guide for baby squirrels. it cleared up a lot for me.

[ALittleNutty]

Hi Nutty! They seem well I'm feeding them less so no fear of bloating but very little pee and poop. I'm going to soak them before their 4 pm feeding. They are eager eaters. I see several new bumps under the little boy's skin but so far they haven't broken through. The little girl has one on her head and a couple on her back. The coconut oil helps and is a lot prettier than the Inotyol! I think the scabs are softening a little. I found a small fleece receiving blankie at Goodwill so there is a lot less fleece between them and the heating pad. They don't seem to be drying out or dehydrating but I'm looking for a plastic container that will fit in the squirrel cage and still provide easy access. I'll post pix after their bath. Thank you for posting the 6 page guide for baby squirrels. it cleared up a lot for me.

That is great! Sounds like they are moving in the right direction. You can slowly go up on the feeding amount each time by .1 or .2 cc each feeding without any issues. Good to hear the scabs are falling off. Glad to hear the coconut oil is helping. Can't wait for pics. We love pics!

Here is what I use for my pinkies. I get them at the dollar store pretty cheap. I have a larger one that is about 15 inches deep that I use up until they are about 5 weeks and they move to the small cage. This one is about 9" wide, 11 inches long and 9 inches deep. You can drill holes in the lid for air but I rarely use them unless I have to transport them. I took it off the heating pad so I could get a good pic. My nightstand is a pinkie care wreck right now, lol!

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[Kit-Ten]

That is great! Sounds like they are moving in the right direction. You can slowly go up on the feeding amount each time by .1 or .2 cc each feeding without any issues. Good to hear the scabs are falling off. Glad to hear the coconut oil is helping. Can't wait for pics. We love pics!

Here is what I use for my pinkies. I get them at the dollar store pretty cheap. I have a larger one that is about 15 inches deep that I use up until they are about 5 weeks and they move to the small cage. This one is about 9" wide, 11 inches long and 9 inches deep. You can drill holes in the lid for air but I rarely use them unless I have to transport them. I took it off the heating pad so I could get a good pic. My nightstand is a pinkie care wreck right now, lol!

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I didn't find a plastic box yet but I switched out the cardboard box for this Ikea fold/zipper organizer. It should be comfortable for them until I can find one more like yours that fits in the squirrel cage. I'll attach pix of my setup after the pix of the squirrels today.
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[ALittleNutty]

They are looking much better IMO. Glad you found something that will fit in the cage. You must have other pets since you keep them in there. Better safe than sorry. :) I just got back from Wal-Mart. Had to get some groceries and of course I had to buy my "babies" something. They now have glass jars for their formula to be stored in. The lids on my plastic ones don't seal as good as they used to.

[Kit-Ten]

It isn't squirrel pox! This morning the little boy had several lesions that were bright red like the squirrel pox pix online so I freaked out and took them to my holistic vet. Redwuff was right--bacterial, possibly staph or strep. He put them on antibiotics, Amoxicillin one drop twice a day, Lymphtone III one drop twice a day and mineral oil one drop twice a day for the little girl who isn't pooping. Their feedings are now full strength, no extra water. They do look better. And they love their coconut oil rubdowns. The vet and his staff really enjoyed them!

[ALittleNutty]

It isn't squirrel pox! This morning the little boy had several lesions that were bright red like the squirrel pox pix online so I freaked out and took them to my holistic vet. Redwuff was right--bacterial, possibly staph or strep. He put them on antibiotics, Amoxicillin one drop twice a day, Lymphtone III one drop twice a day and mineral oil one drop twice a day for the little girl who isn't pooping. Their feedings are now full strength, no extra water. They do look better. And they love their coconut oil rubdowns. The vet and his staff really enjoyed them!

:thumbsup That is great news!!! So glad to hear your vet figured it out. I told you the coconut oil was good even though they didn't care for it the first time. :grin3

[DaSquirrelMom]

The bumps with yellow crusts look very similar to human impetigo.

[Kit-Ten]

:thumbsup That is great news!!! So glad to hear your vet figured it out. I told you the coconut oil was good even though they didn't care for it the first time. :grin3

Thank you so much about the coconut oil. It relaxes them. They go right to sleep after feeding and tummy rub and I have to wake them up in 3 hours to eat again. They are always eager. I thought they were 4 weeks old when I got them but it has been 2 weeks today and their eyes are still not open so they could not have been more than 3 weeks old. The antibiotics have not made a noticeable difference yet but they have a lot of energy and their lesions are not worsening. I credit the coconut oil!

[Kit-Ten]

Thank you so much about the coconut oil. It relaxes them. They go right to sleep after feeding and tummy rub and I have to wake them up in 3 hours to eat again. They are always eager. I thought they were 4 weeks old when I got them but it has been 2 weeks today and their eyes are still not open so they could not have been more than 3 weeks old. The antibiotics have not made a noticeable difference yet but they have a lot of energy and their lesions are not worsening. I credit the coconut oil!

Turns out I'm told these are fox squirrels which explains why they were so large as babies that I thought they were much older. They are now going on 8 weeks, eyes and ears open and very lively. No more skin problems. They are starting to nibble on dog kibble, grapes, carrots and bananas. Not too interested in broccoli. I've ordered a large cage because I'm afraid they won't be ready to release before the cold comes. I will try to attach a picture for all you wonderful people who helped them survive.
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[Rhapsody]

Were all these areas bumps at first? --I am thinking possible ant bites that have dried up and are now leaving the area brittle. I would suggest a small amount of olive oil or cocoa butter cream to be applied to the body for a week to aid in healing.

[Kit-Ten]

Thank you Rhapsody! That could well have been the case since the babies were found on the ground and cold. Who knows how long they were there. Unfortunately, the wounds got infected and needed antibiotics according to the vet. They are now fine and their tummies are so furry it is hard to tell the little boy from the girl!