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tomcics
10-17-2015, 04:12 PM
Sad news, I had been thinking about Orlando :orlando since I woke up today as I had not seen him since they began the so called 'Beautification Project' (cutting down all old bushes in front). I looked out front door and thought I seen him a couple apartments down but he ran when I whistled. Mid afternoon, I seen a foxer in back and I knew immediately it was him (seen his white spot under neck and he has smaller head than normal here). Unfortunately, I also noticed his left eye was severely swollen and injured, not since Percy the Foxer have I seen something that badly swollen here. It looks like a wound he got a week or two ago to me, not fresh. He was still moving around and chasing the greys away. He ate a lot and I did give him a dose of ivermectin (although doubtful it will do him any good at this point) but nothing else I could do. He left when a neighbor walked out her door. I am not sure if/when I will see him again. Posting some pictures to see if anyone has any idea what may have happened to the poor sweet boy.

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This is his good side
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lennysmom
10-17-2015, 05:04 PM
Oh no Tom!! Poor Orlando. :Cry That looks just awful! I wonder if giving him ABs at this point would do any good?? Praying that he will be ok. :grouphug

squizzabelle
10-17-2015, 05:30 PM
This is so awful, i feel so sad for you and the little fella. Why cant bloody people leave things alone? So sorry :hug from england
Love
Chez x

California Squirrel Lover
10-17-2015, 05:35 PM
oh tom, nooooo! I didn't look at the injury yet, I scrolled right down fast. I have to work up the nerve to look. I'm so sorry, I hate the injuries. Poor Orlando, he's so sweet. Remember, I had more than one survive, recover, and even do great after suffering terrible eye injuries, even losing the eye. I think my Butch may have had the worst, so I know they are capable of surviving horrific injuries. I immediately starting wetting some nuts with the liquid echinacea whenever anyone got injured, especially with a bad injury. The kind without alcohol, I even have spare brand new bottles, I'd be more than happy to ship one right out to you!! I didn't have antibiotics, and the echinacea was the only thing I knew to do at the time. Let me know if you'd like a bottle, PM me, and I'll send it out. :grouphug:grouphug

tomcics
10-17-2015, 05:58 PM
Thanks Len Len's Mom, have never had to give ABs to anyone here and since I am allergic to most, my doctor only prescribes bactrim to me.

Thanks squizzabelle from England - yes I wish they would have left it alone, it was far more beautiful before they started this project.

Thanks California Squirrel Lover for the tip (liquid echinacea) and generous offer, I have a Whole Foods at corner, I will pick some up there early in morning (in case Orlando comes back again in afternoon)

California Squirrel Lover
10-17-2015, 06:26 PM
poor Orlando. I peeked at his injury. It actually reminds me of what happened to Butch. I remember his had swelled up and bulged out like that, before it receded and went inward, and I thought he had lost it completely. Then one day a long time later, it got re-injured in another fight, and it looked like how Orlando's looks all over again. Then he once again healed and recovered, and it went completely inward again, as if he had no eye. I hope that story made sense, sorry. I think all I had was the echinacea, and I actually gave it to him often, and I believe it helped.

This is what I use, I've liked the herb pharm brand, alcohol free, but I know there are several brands.

264694

Shewhosweptforest
10-17-2015, 06:37 PM
Oh no Tom....that's bad.....I do think you should give him AB's ....do you have anything at home....oh I wish I had seen this earlier....we could over night you some meds.....thing is you need the vet type....that tastes good..that way when you put it on a nut he will eat it. I'm afraid he's not going to eat the nasty stuff :shakehead I'm sure his eye is lost...but if that abscess will burst and you get AB's in him he could recuperate :please

Shewhosweptforest
10-17-2015, 06:38 PM
poor Orlando. I peeked at his injuryj. It actually reminds me of what happened to Butch. I remember his had swelled up and bulged out like that, before it receded and went inward, and I thought he had lost it completely. Then one day a long time later, it got re-injured in another fight, and it looked like how Orlando's looks all over again. Then he once again healed and recovered, and it went completely inward again, as if he had no eye. I hope that story made sense, sorry. I think all I had was the echinacea, and I actually gave it to him often, and I believe it helped.

This is what I use, I've liked the herb pharm brand, alcohol free, but I know there are several brands.

264694



So there is hope :please

tomcics
10-17-2015, 06:56 PM
poor Orlando. I peeked at his injury. It actually reminds me of what happened to Butch. I remember his had swelled up and bulged out like that, before it receded and went inward, and I thought he had lost it completely. Then one day a long time later, it got re-injured in another fight, and it looked like how Orlando's looks all over again. Then he once again healed and recovered, and it went completely inward again, as if he had no eye. I hope that story made sense, sorry. I think all I had was the echinacea, and I actually gave it to him often, and I believe it helped.

This is what I use, I've liked the herb pharm brand, alcohol free, but I know there are several brands.

264694

Thanks California Squirrel Lover, I will look for that brand and I do remember those terrible times when Butch was suffering same type of eye issue, I recall it very clearly as it looked so sad for the sweet boy to have been hurt that way

tomcics
10-17-2015, 06:56 PM
Thanks Sweeps for looking in, hoping for the best outcome.

Bravo
10-17-2015, 06:56 PM
Oh no. :grouphug Orlando :grouphug And bravely these wild ones soldier on. I can hope that it looks worse than it feels, but I also know what a beating nature dishes out. I'm so sorry. With any luck it's healing.

I meant to comment on the community thread about the uglification, it's happening in my neighbourhood too. In fact it's all over the place downtown, several properties here. As much as I prefer wild to "gardened", I see how property owners have to deal with the piles of leaves and also are compelled to keep the properties "desirable and saleable", so it looks like they contract as cheaply as possible in the fall to do both at the same time. I hadn't put the two together until I saw it in your thread.

I'm surprised and saddened to read that they're going after your trees as well... up here that's almost a crime and the contractors can't touch them. Which is in itself a problem, many of the older trees are thick with suckers and parasitic growth that should be removed. But it all comes down to costs. :(

Nancy in New York
10-17-2015, 07:11 PM
Oh no Tom, I am SO sorry to read this.
That looks terrible.
I can send something to you, and it will be in suspension
so the taste will be better.
I first want to direct a couple of people to this thread to see
what the best recommendation would be for this.

Can you pm me your address. I will overnight this Monday morning
along with dosing insturctions. Is Orlando a BIG foxer or medium sized?
I have to guesstimate a weight for the dosing.

Poor baby. :sadness:hug

SammysMom
10-17-2015, 07:28 PM
Oh Tom, I am so sorry to see this!!! The only thing about ABs is that you have to be able to give them daily. Do you see Orlando enough to be able to do that? It doesn't really sound like it, but maybe he will be regular again now.

stepnstone
10-17-2015, 08:10 PM
I agree with attempting to deal with the infection, the eye is lost.
Which ab would have the best results to that area, for that type injury,
is the only question... besides the how regular this could be managed. :dono

HRT4SQRLS
10-17-2015, 08:12 PM
Tom, that looks bad but there is hope. Another member (KB) had a release that came home with an eye injury just like that. It was awful. Her situation was different and she was able to bring him in and treat. He was on Clavamox and he healed beautifully. The eye was lost but he was released and is doing well.

I would dose pecans with the antibiotic. I dosed a squirrel that way. I coated the ridges of a pecan with a very thin film of molasses for the sweetness and the tackiness sorta like glue. I then put the antibiotic in the ridges of the pecan. It would definitely be better than nothing. From my limited experience with antibiotics and squirrels, I think Clavamox is one that is not as foul tasting as some of the others. I doubt a squirrel would eat a pecan with Clindamycin or Baytril on it (not that I would recommend Baytril :tilt ).

I know a vet last week prescribed Chloramphenicol for a squirrel that had an abscess behind the eye but that's not a drug that we can get without a vet.

I think the Clavamox is worth a try.

Shewhosweptforest
10-17-2015, 08:23 PM
Yay! It sounds like a plan :Love_Icon

tomcics
10-17-2015, 09:30 PM
Oh no Tom, I am SO sorry to read this.
That looks terrible.
I can send something to you, and it will be in suspension
so the taste will be better.
I first want to direct a couple of people to this thread to see
what the best recommendation would be for this.

Can you pm me your address. I will overnight this Monday morning
along with dosing insturctions. Is Orlando a BIG foxer or medium sized?
I have to guesstimate a weight for the dosing.

Poor baby. :sadness:hug

Thanks Nancy, I just sent you a PM (and guesstimated a pound and a half)

tomcics
10-17-2015, 09:31 PM
Yay! It sounds like a plan :Love_Icon

Thanks Sweeps, looks like a plan to me too (hope I see him again)

tomcics
10-17-2015, 09:33 PM
I agree with attempting to deal with the infection, the eye is lost.
Which ab would have the best results to that area, for that type injury,
is the only question... besides the how regular this could be managed. :dono

Thanks stepnstone, that's the big question, when and will he return during hours I am home (as I work during day M-F)

tomcics
10-17-2015, 09:35 PM
Oh Tom, I am so sorry to see this!!! The only thing about ABs is that you have to be able to give them daily. Do you see Orlando enough to be able to do that? It doesn't really sound like it, but maybe he will be regular again now.

Thanks SammysMom

I only see Orlando on weekends and not all weekends at that, that will be the big challenge, he is not a regular and not sure how far away he lives, assume not close since he is not around too often.

tomcics
10-17-2015, 09:39 PM
Tom, that looks bad but there is hope. Another member (KB) had a release that came home with an eye injury just like that. It was awful. Her situation was different and she was able to bring him in and treat. He was on Clavamox and he healed beautifully. The eye was lost but he was released and is doing well.

I would dose pecans with the antibiotic. I dosed a squirrel that way. I coated the ridges of a pecan with a very thin film of molasses for the sweetness and the tackiness sorta like glue. I then put the antibiotic in the ridges of the pecan. It would definitely be better than nothing. From my limited experience with antibiotics and squirrels, I think Clavamox is one that is not as foul tasting as some of the others. I doubt a squirrel would eat a pecan with Clindamycin or Baytril on it (not that I would recommend Baytril :tilt ).

I know a vet last week prescribed Chloramphenicol for a squirrel that had an abscess behind the eye but that's not a drug that we can get without a vet.

I think the Clavamox is worth a try.

Thanks HRT4SQRLS for all this information, Orlando is poor but picky and normally only eats walnuts, so I would have the opportunity to put medication in ridge of walnut. As I mentioned in other replies, the major challenge is his availability to treat, as he is not at all regular. Nobody commented that I seen but I got the impression it was not a very recent (more than a couple days) wound but not sure. His personality seemed pretty normal other than being more nervous in the front area (where landscaping was done)

tomcics
10-17-2015, 09:43 PM
Oh no. :grouphug Orlando :grouphug And bravely these wild ones soldier on. I can hope that it looks worse than it feels, but I also know what a beating nature dishes out. I'm so sorry. With any luck it's healing.

I meant to comment on the community thread about the uglification, it's happening in my neighbourhood too. In fact it's all over the place downtown, several properties here. As much as I prefer wild to "gardened", I see how property owners have to deal with the piles of leaves and also are compelled to keep the properties "desirable and saleable", so it looks like they contract as cheaply as possible in the fall to do both at the same time. I hadn't put the two together until I saw it in your thread.

I'm surprised and saddened to read that they're going after your trees as well... up here that's almost a crime and the contractors can't touch them. Which is in itself a problem, many of the older trees are thick with suckers and parasitic growth that should be removed. But it all comes down to costs. :(

Thanks Bravo, what you commented here is the very sad truth.

I have some beautiful pine trees just 50 feet away and I am quite sure they are going after them next. I am not sure when though. I have many different birds that gather there to eat too, so it will be sad when they cut them down and place new little bushes there (that offer no protection from predators).

SugarBugFerret
10-17-2015, 09:46 PM
NOOOOOOO! Not your handsome Orlando! That looks awful...poor sweet boy. I so hope he is going to be ok. :boohoo

MyBushyTail
10-18-2015, 07:16 AM
Oh No Poor Orlando - his eye injury reminds me a little of Big Boy's severe eye injury (see below picture) and Big Boy did just fine once he healed. He did loose the eye but overall he did very good in the wild with his disability. Prayers for Orlando :grouphug.

Big Boy with his eye injury - the first week.

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TubeDriver
10-18-2015, 09:49 AM
Tom - I am so sorry to see poor Orlando hurt like that. :(

I agree with Step, that eye is gone but there is a decent chance that Orlando can heal from this and continue living as an outdoor squirrel.

If you are going to try and treat him outside, the basics are make sure that he gets food and water whenever you see him. If you go to a local Pet mart type store, they often sell a liquid rodent vitamin solution (contains ~5-8 vitamins) designed for pet rats, mice eat that might be helpful to place in his water.

The Ivermectin you gave him might be good just to prevent secondary stuff like mange from starting as his immune system fights to heal the injury to his eye.

If you get some AB, perhaps try to start them on a day when you might be around more over the next couple days. For example, if you can hang around Friday and treat him, then you may be able to be there Sat, Sun and perhaps even Monday which would be almost a short course. This is probably better than random treatments with AB.

As long as the eye gets no worse and he continues to be healthy, vigorous and active, I think he has a pretty good chance. Squirrels have amazingly powerful healing abilities. if he starts to lose weight, gets weaker or if the infection spreads, then trapping him and bringing to a rehabber would be best if that is an option. With no bushes in front of your home, it will now be virtually impossible to secretly set up a trap.:(

Will be talking with some folks here and checking in regularly to see how things are going. I hope Friendly Orlando starts to heal up soon!

:grouphug

tomcics
10-18-2015, 10:25 AM
NOOOOOOO! Not your handsome Orlando! That looks awful...poor sweet boy. I so hope he is going to be ok. :boohoo


Thanks SugarBugFerret

Hoping to see Orlando today but stuck at work for now.

tomcics
10-18-2015, 10:28 AM
[FONT=lucida console][COLOR=#0000ff]Oh No Poor Orlando - his eye injury reminds me a little of Big Boy's severe eye injury (see below picture) and Big Boy did just fine once he healed. He did loose the eye but overall he did very good in the wild with his disability. Prayers for Orlando :grouphug.

Big Boy with his eye injury - the first week.



Thanks [B]MBT, I do recall the injuries suffered by your sweet Big Boy and CSL's sweet Butch. I am hoping Orlando can heal too.

tomcics
10-18-2015, 10:35 AM
Tom - I am so sorry to see poor Orlando hurt like that. :(

I agree with Step, that eye is gone but there is a decent chance that Orlando can heal from this and continue living as an outdoor squirrel.

If you are going to try and treat him outside, the basics are make sure that he gets food and water whenever you see him. If you go to a local Pet mart type store, they often sell a liquid rodent vitamin solution (contains ~5-8 vitamins) designed for pet rats, mice eat that might be helpful to place in his water.

The Ivermectin you gave him might be good just to prevent secondary stuff like mange from starting as his immune system fights to heal the injury to his eye.

If you get some AB, perhaps try to start them on a day when you might be around more over the next couple days. For example, if you can hang around Friday and treat him, then you may be able to be there Sat, Sun and perhaps even Monday which would be almost a short course. This is probably better than random treatments with AB.

As long as the eye gets no worse and he continues to be healthy, vigorous and active, I think he has a pretty good chance. Squirrels have amazingly powerful healing abilities. if he starts to lose weight, gets weaker or if the infection spreads, then trapping him and bringing to a rehabber would be best if that is an option. With no bushes in front of your home, it will now be virtually impossible to secretly set up a trap.:(

Will be talking with some folks here and checking in regularly to see how things are going. I hope Friendly Orlando starts to heal up soon!

:grouphug

Thanks TubeDriver

It's always so sad when these things happen, only thing one can do is try their best to help. In Orlando's case, I will make sure he is fed and has fresh water and get ABs to him if he is available. He is a tough sweet boy, so I am hoping he pulls thru.

I have no idea how such a thing happened either.

He was one of the squirrels that benefited a lot from my old front bushes as he wanted to sit there to beg and not be in the open.

I have no idea where he lives but I know it is not close, otherwise he would have been much more regular, what normally happens is the one that lives far away will pop in and if they don't see anyone at that time, they will leave. On weekends I am there more often, so I have a greater likelihood of seeing them.

The most positive thing is when he was here, he ate plenty and The Shadow tried to get his feeding spot (hassled him but to no avail) but he was not giving it up.

tomcics
10-18-2015, 04:52 PM
Brief update:

I did see Orlando today on front porch, looking the same, active and hungry again, he ate about 6 hazelnuts and 6 walnut halves. CSL, I was able to wet one with echinacea, same exact brand you recommended I got at Whole Foods this morning.

Nancy is sending me some meds but I think it is low probability I will see him during the week. Thanks so much again Nancy.

My gut feeling is that he has been thru the worse part of it and will heal and learn to survive with one eye.

I appreciate everyone's thoughts and prayers and kind help for Orlando.

California Squirrel Lover
10-18-2015, 07:47 PM
Hey, I'm taking this as a good update, as good as can be under the circumstances! It's good that he doesn't seem worse, is able to get to you for added food and water, and he got some echinacea. It is hard to dose medication to wilds, especially if you're working someplace other than home, and you're just not there, and don't see him daily. I do hope and pray he'll be ok, and will heal in time. I guess you'll have to see if it's going to be possible or not to try giving him the ab's. Orlando will remain in my prayers, he's such a beautiful, sweet boy. :Love_Icon:Love_Icon:grouphug:grouphug

SugarBugFerret
10-21-2015, 05:36 PM
Good heavens! Orlando looks pretty good compared to Big Boy in the beginning. I mean, his eye is swollen, but it doesn't look very red, oozy, or infected in comparison. If Big Boy was able to rally after that, I am holding out for no less than that for Orlando! Stay strong little buddy, and go home and visit often so you can get good stuff to make you heal faster! :strong


Oh No Poor Orlando - his eye injury reminds me a little of Big Boy's severe eye injury (see below picture) and Big Boy did just fine once he healed. He did loose the eye but overall he did very good in the wild with his disability. Prayers for Orlando :grouphug.

Big Boy with his eye injury - the first week.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/MyBushyTail/Backyard%20Squirrels%202012/BigBoy08_zpssiqyqwjw.jpg (http://s267.photobucket.com/user/MyBushyTail/media/Backyard%20Squirrels%202012/BigBoy08_zpssiqyqwjw.jpg.html)

squizzabelle
10-22-2015, 01:51 PM
Hello Tom, i hope all is well, have you seen Orlando...? Im finding myself all worried about the squirrels now reading all the posts....dreading the time change here in UK at the weekend as i wont see my squirrel buddies except at weekends but we have ordered two feeding boxes from ebay today so they will be able to snack during the day and the bloaty pigeons are too dumb to work out how to get at the food :grin2

Cheryl :Love_Icon

tomcics
10-22-2015, 07:26 PM
Hello Tom, i hope all is well, have you seen Orlando...? Im finding myself all worried about the squirrels now reading all the posts....dreading the time change here in UK at the weekend as i wont see my squirrel buddies except at weekends but we have ordered two feeding boxes from ebay today so they will be able to snack during the day and the bloaty pigeons are too dumb to work out how to get at the food :grin2

Cheryl :Love_Icon

Thanks Cheryl

Hah sounds like a good idea
having feeding boxes reserved for squirrels for daytime snacks, I am guessing you have no chippies there to foil your plans :grin2

Getting ready to post an Orlando update.

tomcics
10-22-2015, 07:28 PM
Thanks SugarBugFerret

Yes, Big Boy really does look bad in that pic (remarkable he could recover), my guess is Orlando went thru that phase early on and I did not see him at the onset of the injury.

tomcics
10-22-2015, 07:31 PM
Hey, I'm taking this as a good update, as good as can be under the circumstances! It's good that he doesn't seem worse, is able to get to you for added food and water, and he got some echinacea. It is hard to dose medication to wilds, especially if you're working someplace other than home, and you're just not there, and don't see him daily. I do hope and pray he'll be ok, and will heal in time. I guess you'll have to see if it's going to be possible or not to try giving him the ab's. Orlando will remain in my prayers, he's such a beautiful, sweet boy. :Love_Icon:Love_Icon:grouphug:grouphug

Thanks California Squirrel Lover

I am hoping the different treatments I have given Orlando will have some benefit, I did see him today and will post an update and pics in a few. Thanks this little buy really is a 'beautiful, sweet boy'

tomcics
10-22-2015, 07:40 PM
Update: Orlando is not a regular so I have not seen him everyday but maybe a bit more since he has been injured.

Nancy was kind enough to send me the meds and I feel fortunate that he happen to come at about the only time today that I could get him a medicated walnut (which he did eat in full). In all he ate 4 walnuts and 4 hazelnuts, then took a big drink and left.

His eye still looks very bad but something is happening to it, maybe flaking or peeling, you should be able to see this in these pics, so hard to see him injured this way but I will show his healthy side too.

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Even in this shape, he managed to smile for me
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lukaslolamaus
10-22-2015, 07:54 PM
Poor :Love_IconOrlando:Love_Icon. Sending prayers:grouphug

Sara in NW MS
10-22-2015, 08:06 PM
That poor baby, I can't imagine how uncomfortable that must be for him. His eye looks terrible. I'm praying for Orlando, what a beautiful boy.

California Squirrel Lover
10-22-2015, 08:09 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't look at the latest pics yet, I kinda started to, but then had to scroll down. Gives me the shivers, I have a hard time looking. I'll get brave and look later. Poor love, man I hate seeing them hurt. That's good you got a medicated nut to him, and he ate it all. Right on, Nancy, way to help! :thumbsup Anytime you're able to wet some walnuts with the echinacea and get them to him, I think will help, as well. I do hope and pray he'll heal and be ok. Still seems like a good sign to me that he is running around ok, and is coming to you for food and water. All your help really adds up, and it's good he knows you and knows to come to you. :grouphug:grouphug

Nancy in New York
10-22-2015, 08:32 PM
Oh Tom, I'm SO happy that you saw Orlando and were able to dose him in a nut.
How lucky was it that you were home when he came. :w00t
Yeah the eye looks different for sure. It does sort of look like it's "drying up".
I have to get a better look and compare.
Looks like Orlando has a little Lenny in him, with that smile! :)
Keep up the great work! :hug

edit: Looking at the pictures side by side, I think the swelling has gone down some too.


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SammysMom
10-22-2015, 10:00 PM
Ok he's a smartypants for sure! He knew what he needed and came when you were there to give it to him. My first thought about the "flaking" was that it might be that the eye is oozing out the pus and infection in it and thereby healing. It might be drying and flaking off of the eye.
Whatever it is, it does look like it is smaller and that is good. Keep up the good work, Tom. You are a Godsend to the critters in your world for SURE!:grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

TubeDriver
10-22-2015, 10:15 PM
:grouphugOrlando:grouphug

That eye looks terrible but overall he still looks healthy and strong. :w00t I hope your medication treatment helps and hopefully you can give him some more soon.

lennysmom
10-22-2015, 11:05 PM
I've been praying for poor Orlando and I am glad to see he is still visiting and even smiling a little.:Love_Icon I was also happy to read that you were able to get the ABs in him today. :thumbsup Hope he will continue to hang around more, at least until he heals. I know you are concerned about him.:grouphug

tomcics
10-23-2015, 12:40 PM
Poor :Love_IconOrlando:Love_Icon. Sending prayers:grouphug

Thanks lukaslolamaus - he could sure use the prayers, amazing how well his spirits are considering the injury he sustained

tomcics
10-23-2015, 12:41 PM
That poor baby, I can't imagine how uncomfortable that must be for him. His eye looks terrible. I'm praying for Orlando, what a beautiful boy.

Thank You Sara in NW MS

Always appreciate the extra prayers, despite being a softee at heart, he is a tough little boy

tomcics
10-23-2015, 12:43 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't look at the latest pics yet, I kinda started to, but then had to scroll down. Gives me the shivers, I have a hard time looking. I'll get brave and look later. Poor love, man I hate seeing them hurt. That's good you got a medicated nut to him, and he ate it all. Right on, Nancy, way to help! :thumbsup Anytime you're able to wet some walnuts with the echinacea and get them to him, I think will help, as well. I do hope and pray he'll heal and be ok. Still seems like a good sign to me that he is running around ok, and is coming to you for food and water. All your help really adds up, and it's good he knows you and knows to come to you. :grouphug:grouphug

Thanks California Squirrel Lover

I have a hard time looking at the pictures too, even harder time realizing the pain and suffering he must of felt when it occurred. Appreciate your always kind words and well wishes

tomcics
10-23-2015, 12:46 PM
Oh Tom, I'm SO happy that you saw Orlando and were able to dose him in a nut.
How lucky was it that you were home when he came. :w00t
Yeah the eye looks different for sure. It does sort of look like it's "drying up".
I have to get a better look and compare.
Looks like Orlando has a little Lenny in him, with that smile! :)
Keep up the great work! :hug

edit: Looking at the pictures side by side, I think the swelling has gone down some too.


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Thanks Nancy

That is an excellent comparison shot and brings some hope to the table.

I don't know how these critters manage to function with these kind of serious wounds. He is very smart too, the pics at the door, he kept his blind eye towards me and his good eye at the bushes (where another squirrel was hanging out).

Hoping to see him today and/or this weekend

tomcics
10-24-2015, 08:29 PM
Quick update, I seen Orlando this afternoon and was able to get him another dose of medication (the new dosage Nancy)

Eye is still looking bad but changing in appearance, less swollen
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Nancy in New York
10-24-2015, 08:42 PM
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WOW, it looks like it burst, and if I'm seeing correctly the infection is seeping out.
I'm glad you upped the dose a little. As I said, he still isn't near the daily dose, but
I feel better that he's getting a little more.
Keep up the great work, it should gradually start looking better and better daily.
:Love_Icon Orlando :Love_Icon

lukaslolamaus
10-24-2015, 08:45 PM
Thank goodness you were able to medicate him again!
Prayers for sweet :Love_IconOrlando:Love_Icon continue

TubeDriver
10-24-2015, 08:51 PM
My heart just breaks when I see Orlando like that.:sadness


He must be in terrible pain but you can still see his sweet nature. I hope that open draining helps along with the AB treatments you are giving him work to eliminate the infection. He is lucky to have a caring friend in you, Tom!:clap

Hang in there Orlando.:grouphug

SammysMom
10-24-2015, 09:45 PM
It is getting so much better!!! Thank goodness he has such a caring friend! :grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

California Squirrel Lover
10-24-2015, 10:21 PM
Sweet Orlando, it's terrible he has to go through such an injury. :( It's great he's getting some meds, food and water from you. I'm just so glad he already knew you, and knew he could come to you for help. I don't like to think about the ones who don't have any help when they really need it. I'm so hoping and praying he'll heal and be ok. :grouphug:grouphug

tomcics
10-25-2015, 10:00 AM
Sweet Orlando, it's terrible he has to go through such an injury. :( It's great he's getting some meds, food and water from you. I'm just so glad he already knew you, and knew he could come to you for help. I don't like to think about the ones who don't have any help when they really need it. I'm so hoping and praying he'll heal and be ok. :grouphug:grouphug

Thanks California Squirrel Lover, I feel so sad for the many out there that have noone to turn to for any help but I know they are so very good at survival in this dangerous world and I do believe they get love/support from their family/friends. Orlando came by with Stan (another male foxer) yesterday, they stayed together most of the time and it was clear Orlando was in charge.

tomcics
10-25-2015, 10:01 AM
It is getting so much better!!! Thank goodness he has such a caring friend! :grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

Thank You SammysMom - hoping I can be lucky enough to see and dose him another time today when I get home from work.

tomcics
10-25-2015, 10:03 AM
My heart just breaks when I see Orlando like that.:sadness


He must be in terrible pain but you can still see his sweet nature. I hope that open draining helps along with the AB treatments you are giving him work to eliminate the infection. He is lucky to have a caring friend in you, Tom!:clap

Hang in there Orlando.:grouphug

Thank You TubeDriver

I was surprised to see the draining in pics, it does seem to be healing, just hoping he gets no secondary infections.

Thanks for the kind words.

tomcics
10-25-2015, 10:04 AM
Thank goodness you were able to medicate him again!
Prayers for sweet :Love_IconOrlando:Love_Icon continue

Thanks lukaslolamaus - would be great if he keeps showing up when I am home.

tomcics
10-25-2015, 10:06 AM
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WOW, it looks like it burst, and if I'm seeing correctly the infection is seeping out.
I'm glad you upped the dose a little. As I said, he still isn't near the daily dose, but
I feel better that he's getting a little more.
Keep up the great work, it should gradually start looking better and better daily.
:Love_Icon Orlando :Love_Icon

Thanks Nancy,

I like seeing the comparisons, you can really see the changes.

Orlando :orlando would give you a big hug if he knew how much help you have provided.

Shewhosweptforest
10-25-2015, 11:38 AM
:shakehead It's heartwrenching to see :orlando go through this...and as you said Tom he's the lucky one ...he has someone looking out for him :Love_Icon my heart hurts too, for the wild's that have no one and just have to depend on good genes and immunity systems (which thank goodness squirrels possess) I think it looks horrible...but I agree it's definitely part of the healing process....it did have to open up to allow all that ick to drain :yuck it's going to look pretty bad for a while and I'm just glad it's not in the summer with all the bugs :bowdown that drainage is probably going to cause him to lose a lot of fur on his face :dono I'm glad you were able to dose him...although it's not ideal...getting random doses....I do believe it helps, and sometimes these guys only need that extra little boost to get them through :Love_Icon :please

tomcics
10-25-2015, 06:55 PM
:shakehead It's heartwrenching to see :orlando go through this...and as you said Tom he's the lucky one ...he has someone looking out for him :Love_Icon my heart hurts too, for the wild's that have no one and just have to depend on good genes and immunity systems (which thank goodness squirrels possess) I think it looks horrible...but I agree it's definitely part of the healing process....it did have to open up to allow all that ick to drain :yuck it's going to look pretty bad for a while and I'm just glad it's not in the summer with all the bugs :bowdown that drainage is probably going to cause him to lose a lot of fur on his face :dono I'm glad you were able to dose him...although it's not ideal...getting random doses....I do believe it helps, and sometimes these guys only need that extra little boost to get them through :Love_Icon :please

Thanks Sweeps, I did (as I mentioned on my general thread) get another good dose to him today. I placed a small amount of a delicious (and very expensive) walnut spread over the medicine and he seemed to love it. He has been eating very well (about 5 walnut, 6 hazelnuts, and hid a couple too). His behavior has really been about the same but he doesn't like to get too close to me when I am outside, he prefers I throw him treats. I always have to be super careful with the medicated nut and luckily it was fairly easy today (only 1 other squirrel in area at that time)

tomcics
10-25-2015, 07:00 PM
Orlando today, Nancy I did give him the new dose today too. Unfortunately, when he comes, it is only once a day, so only one dose possible.
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TubeDriver
10-25-2015, 07:02 PM
:grouphugOrlando:grouphug

Shewhosweptforest
10-25-2015, 07:14 PM
I'm really glad you were able to get another dose in him:great and I'm equally glad to see he's looking so well, besides the eye:great it gives us hope that he's winning the battle :bowdown with a lot of help from his friends..you and Nancy :grouphug and all of us fans :blowkiss

California Squirrel Lover
10-25-2015, 07:45 PM
Oh good, I'm glad he took another dose! :thumbsup :grouphug

tomcics
10-26-2015, 02:08 PM
:thankyou Sweeps, California Squirrel Lover and TubeDriver - I am confident he can overcome this injury with everyone's support.

lukaslolamaus
10-26-2015, 02:10 PM
:Love_IconOrlando:Love_Icon:grouphug

Nancy in New York
10-26-2015, 03:15 PM
You're doing wonderful Tom! :hug
He is looking better with less swelling.
I'm SO glad he seems to be coming around more often.
I was a little concerned that the dosing would be so sporadic, but
we have to keep the hope that it's helping, because it sure does look
a lot better than when he first showed up.
:Love_Icon Orlando :Love_Icon

SugarBugFerret
10-26-2015, 04:17 PM
It just hurts my heart that sweet Orlando is having to go through this, but his injury does at least seem to be going through the normal healing process and improving, as icky as it may look. I'm so thankful that he is coming around and getting food, fresh water and meds, and that he isn't really acting like he feels sick or injured. That's a good sign, right? Oh Orlando, hang in there little buddy! Even with one eye, he is still a handsome little foxer! No offense to all of the other sweet babies on TSB, but he is one of my favorites. Feel free to tell him that Tom. I'm still sending prayers and healing vibes his way. He just HAS to get better! Because I said so Orlando!
:orlando :get_em

stepnstone
10-26-2015, 06:16 PM
Even though the meds are sporadic it's far better then doing nothing,
the eye does look better and appears to be starting to dry up.
He's obviously a strong boy, with your help he will be ok with time.
I'm glad your there for him, keep up the good work! :grouphug

tomcics
10-26-2015, 06:56 PM
You're doing wonderful Tom! :hug
He is looking better with less swelling.
I'm SO glad he seems to be coming around more often.
I was a little concerned that the dosing would be so sporadic, but
we have to keep the hope that it's helping, because it sure does look
a lot better than when he first showed up.
:Love_Icon Orlando :Love_Icon

:wave123 Nancy

Unfortunately I did not see Orlando today, I looked for him over my lunch hour and then spent every moment after work outside until dark. Plenty of squirrels but not him.

I had two other worries today, someone thru a bag of peanuts in the middle of my street, I don't know if it was a car litter bug or evil person wanting to attract squirrels birds in the middle of street. I was out there with broom and bag trying to sweep them out of the street but some were mashed into cement by cars. Even afterwards, one of the squirrels (Streak) I had to keep chasing out of the street as he was trying to scrape them up. Also had a red tail hawk for 2 hours in the area, he got nothing but me in his face.

I hardly ever see Orlando during week but will keep looking.

tomcics
10-26-2015, 06:58 PM
Even though the meds are sporadic it's far better then doing nothing,
the eye does look better and appears to be starting to dry up.
He's obviously a strong boy, with your help he will be ok with time.
I'm glad your there for him, keep up the good work! :grouphug

Thanks stepnstone, I do think Orlando will overcome this injury but worry about his survival afterwards with one eye.

tomcics
10-26-2015, 07:01 PM
:Love_IconOrlando:Love_Icon:grouphug

Thanks lukaslolamaus - Always appreciate good wishes, prayers and people who care.

tomcics
10-26-2015, 07:04 PM
It just hurts my heart that sweet Orlando is having to go through this, but his injury does at least seem to be going through the normal healing process and improving, as icky as it may look. I'm so thankful that he is coming around and getting food, fresh water and meds, and that he isn't really acting like he feels sick or injured. That's a good sign, right? Oh Orlando, hang in there little buddy! Even with one eye, he is still a handsome little foxer! No offense to all of the other sweet babies on TSB, but he is one of my favorites. Feel free to tell him that Tom. I'm still sending prayers and healing vibes his way. He just HAS to get better! Because I said so Orlando!
:orlando :get_em

Thank You SugarBugFerret - I just feel awful that he had to suffer and be in pain like that, he is really a sweet innocent little guy here. He also hid quite a few nuts in last week, so I know he has some supplies when he needs them and there is fresh water out. Was hoping to dose him again today but he really is not someone I normally see every day. I still have high hopes he will heal though.

California Squirrel Lover
10-26-2015, 08:13 PM
oh great, peanuts in the middle of the street!! Just what you DON'T want!! I love that you went to sweep them up, thanks for doing that. :thumbsup You know darned well most people would not, wouldn't even give it a thought that it could attract animals. Ya, I think like you, I'm so suspicious of people! Sure it's possible someone threw them out there on purpose, with harm to animals in mind. Either that or just another lazy idiot who treats the world like their personal trash can!! :soapbox Well, that was a pretty good rant for today, lol!

I wish you'd seen Orlando, but hopefully you will see him during the week, and he'll get some more doses of meds. I'm telling you, until I got to know my squirrels, and got so much info from everyone on this board, I had no idea what they can endure and survive. They're really remarkable little creatures. I love Orlando, he's just so sweet and such a gorgeous boy, I'm hoping and praying he'll be ok. I'm thinking positive, that he WILL be ok. :serene He's been on my mind a lot. :Love_Icon:Love_Icon

stepnstone
10-26-2015, 08:24 PM
Thanks stepnstone, I do think Orlando will overcome this injury but worry about his survival afterwards with one eye.

He's already been facing that challenge and having to be in pain.
Having his "field of vision" decreased definitely will add another chapter
to his survival instincts. I would like to think when challenged with such
a disability as (partial) sight other senses become stronger to compensate.

I have heard of several people that have had one eyed squirrels living in or
around their back yards for years. One the man saw nearly everyday and had
been feeding her for 7 years. Maybe their senses tell them to shorten their
playing field to compensate for the lack of vision and /or stay close to a food
source they can count on so they aren't subject to fights and attack.
One can always hope...
Whatever it is they are an incredible species! Their will to survive is extraordinary!
Time will tell, you may just have yourself a little buddy that decides to call your place
his home and stick around... got any nest boxes up? :grin2

tomcics
10-27-2015, 06:39 PM
He's already been facing that challenge and having to be in pain.
Having his "field of vision" decreased definitely will add another chapter
to his survival instincts. I would like to think when challenged with such
a disability as (partial) sight other senses become stronger to compensate.

I have heard of several people that have had one eyed squirrels living in or
around their back yards for years. One the man saw nearly everyday and had
been feeding her for 7 years. Maybe their senses tell them to shorten their
playing field to compensate for the lack of vision and /or stay close to a food
source they can count on so they aren't subject to fights and attack.
One can always hope...
Whatever it is they are an incredible species! Their will to survive is extraordinary!
Time will tell, you may just have yourself a little buddy that decides to call your place
his home and stick around... got any nest boxes up? :grin2

Thank You stepnstone, your words are very encouraging, the little boy is very sweet and with the new batch of pics I will be posting you can see some of that sweetness shines thru.

Today, I got a break and Orlando showed up, it wasn't the easiest time to treat him but it worked out and I got to take a lot of new pics, one thing that caught my eye right away is the major reduction of swollen in the eye.
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His good eye
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Can you find Orlando?
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He is always a cutie when standing up
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SammysMom
10-27-2015, 06:48 PM
Oh my goodness he looks wonderful! Great job Dr. Tom!:grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

stepnstone
10-27-2015, 06:53 PM
It is looking better each time. With the swelling residing hopefully it means so is the infection.
It sure looks like it is comparing these (new) pictures to the last ones, I'm not seeing that "goop"
in the corner of the socket now. The bottom half still looks puffed out, hope it also starts drying
up soon. Keep doing what your doing, you are the best advantage he has and thank you for being
who you are and taking this sweet little dude under your wing. You are truly his guardian angel.
:grouphug

Nancy in New York
10-27-2015, 07:00 PM
WOW what an improvement!
He is looking wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a difference 10 days makes Tom!
This is looking SO much better and dryer.
Glad that infection seems to have stopped draining.
That eye has to feel so much better without all that pressure.

You are doing wonderful! :bowdown
These babies are LUCKY to have you watching out for them.

About the peanuts in the street.
If this happens again, pour something like ammonia on the spots
that are difficult to get up, that should deter the squirrels.
I do hope that was an accident and not "something" else deliberately done! :bash




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lukaslolamaus
10-27-2015, 07:11 PM
Sweet :Love_IconOrlando:Love_Icon is looking so much better!!!:clap
He sure is lucky boy to have you:grouphug
Prayers continue for that special boy!

tomcics
10-27-2015, 07:15 PM
It is looking better each time. With the swelling residing hopefully it means so is the infection.
It sure looks like it is comparing these (new) pictures to the last ones, I'm not seeing that "goop"
in the corner of the socket now. The bottom half still looks puffed out, hope it also starts drying
up soon. Keep doing what your doing, you are the best advantage he has and thank you for being
who you are and taking this sweet little dude under your wing. You are truly his guardian angel.
:grouphug

Thank You stepnstone - appreciate your kind encouragement again. I do think the worse of this injury is behind him and now he needs to get rid of the last of it (I know it will take time) and cope with loss of his eye, I really don't know how a squirrel could adjust jumping from one branch to the next (without binocular vision) but they do seem to do it.

tomcics
10-27-2015, 07:19 PM
WOW what an improvement!
He is looking wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a difference 10 days makes Tom!
This is looking SO much better and dryer.
Glad that infection seems to have stopped draining.
That eye has to feel so much better without all that pressure.

You are doing wonderful! :bowdown
These babies are LUCKY to have you watching out for them.

About the peanuts in the street.
If this happens again, pour something like ammonia on the spots
that are difficult to get up, that should deter the squirrels.
I do hope that was an accident and not "something" else deliberately done! :bash
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Thanks Nancy - the comparison you posted says it all and I do hope he is feeling better with less pressure there.

I appreciate that ammonia tip, I am not positive but I think some kids may have thrown that bag out of a school bus, I don't really know for sure but the time frame fits and it was in center of street (the bag) which fits with the school bus stopping in front of my place (and the left side of school bus windows being in middle of street).

Thanks for the ABs again and hope to see him again tomorrow.

tomcics
10-27-2015, 07:21 PM
Sweet :Love_IconOrlando:Love_Icon is looking so much better!!!:clap
He sure is lucky boy to have you:grouphug
Prayers continue for that special boy!

Thank You lukaslolamaus

I really do appreciate your prayers and hugs for this lovely male foxer, hope can see his sweetness come thru when he is standing up, I really love him.

California Squirrel Lover
10-27-2015, 09:08 PM
Oh ya, he's definitely looking better. It's just such a nasty wound, though, poor guy. SO glad he has you!!! I always think back to my sweet Butch, and how well he did in the wild, even after his eye injury. He was the boss around here for sure, and it was awesome to see him command respect from the rest of my crew, despite his one eye challenge. All Butch had to do was turn toward another squirrel with his one good eye, LOL, and they knew to get outta here. As long as Orlando heals from it, it's absolutely possible he can survive and do well for a long time to come. I'm going to try to think positive, and of course I'll keep him in my prayers. :grouphug:grouphug:serene

Shewhosweptforest
10-27-2015, 10:05 PM
:klunk Wow that's a relief :facepalm he looks sooo much better...I could cry with relief :bowdown and his sweetness does shine through :Love_Icon and boy did I have a hard time finding him...I finally saw him peeking over the bush (if that's what you can call it:crazy1) you really are amazing Tom :hug you take such good care of your friends :Love_Icon

SugarBugFerret
10-28-2015, 03:27 PM
Oh that really does look better! Go Orlando Go! He really is a gorgeous boy...that tail! :klunk I guess we are just going to have to get used to having another pirate squirrel around here on TSB. I think we could have done without such realism on the Halloween costume though Orlando!

tomcics
11-01-2015, 02:10 PM
Oh ya, he's definitely looking better. It's just such a nasty wound, though, poor guy. SO glad he has you!!! I always think back to my sweet Butch, and how well he did in the wild, even after his eye injury. He was the boss around here for sure, and it was awesome to see him command respect from the rest of my crew, despite his one eye challenge. All Butch had to do was turn toward another squirrel with his one good eye, LOL, and they knew to get outta here. As long as Orlando heals from it, it's absolutely possible he can survive and do well for a long time to come. I'm going to try to think positive, and of course I'll keep him in my prayers. :grouphug:grouphug:serene

Thanks California Squirrel Lover for keeping Orlando in your prayers. I will always remember your sweet boy Butch and how remarkable he dealt with his injury. I had not seen him for about 4 days, I did see him this morning thankfully and will update with pics soon.

tomcics
11-01-2015, 02:12 PM
:klunk Wow that's a relief :facepalm he looks sooo much better...I could cry with relief :bowdown and his sweetness does shine through :Love_Icon and boy did I have a hard time finding him...I finally saw him peeking over the bush (if that's what you can call it:crazy1) you really are amazing Tom :hug you take such good care of your friends :Love_Icon

Thanks Sweeps for your sweet comments, the little boy seems to keep improving some, I was concerned as I had not seen him for four or five days but since he is not a regular, I knew it was going to be not a regular schedule of visits.

tomcics
11-01-2015, 02:14 PM
Oh that really does look better! Go Orlando Go! He really is a gorgeous boy...that tail! :klunk I guess we are just going to have to get used to having another pirate squirrel around here on TSB. I think we could have done without such realism on the Halloween costume though Orlando!

Thanks SugarBugFerret - appreciate the kind comments, I do think he is a very handsome boy. He showed up today about 1 PM, so I was very thankful of that. Downloading some pics now

California Squirrel Lover
11-01-2015, 02:16 PM
Oh good, I'm so glad you saw him today!!! He's so sweet, I just want him to recover and do well. :Love_Icon:Love_Icon:serene

Thank you for remembering Butch, he really was remarkable. I try to tell myself he's just fine, just moved further away. :grouphug

tomcics
11-01-2015, 02:18 PM
Thanks Nancy, I did get another dose of medicine to Orlando today, this is probably going to be the last, since he is not keeping regular (been 4-5 days since last). Let me know what you think if you get a chance to view the recent pics:

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tomcics
11-01-2015, 02:20 PM
Oh good, I'm so glad you saw him today!!! He's so sweet, I just want him to recover and do well. :Love_Icon:Love_Icon:serene

Thank you for remembering Butch, he really was remarkable. I try to tell myself he's just fine, just moved further away. :grouphug

I honestly believe that is quite possible California Squirrel Lover, Butch was so tough and sweet at the same at your place, he was adjust anywhere.

California Squirrel Lover
11-01-2015, 02:28 PM
You never know, if by chance you caught sight of him on a lunch break tomorrow, maybe he could get another dose?? :dono

tomcics
11-01-2015, 02:44 PM
You never know, if by chance you caught sight of him on a lunch break tomorrow, maybe he could get another dose?? :dono

Yes your right CSL, it is possible, not sure, seems to be showing about 1 pm normally (at work) and since he does not live nearby, he probably leaves if I am not around. Hoping Nancy pipes in about the wisdom of keeping him on the ABs so sporadically at this point

SammysMom
11-01-2015, 03:11 PM
Oh my goodness...Orlando looks fabulous! I think he would be okay without the AB, but it probably wouldn't hurt either.

lennysmom
11-01-2015, 03:40 PM
Oh wow Tom, he looks SO much better now!! :dance Wonderful update!! :w00t

Nancy in New York
11-01-2015, 05:47 PM
Orlando's progress from 10/17 to 11/1

WOW Tom, you did an amazing job with Orlando! :bowdown

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I think that you can stop the antibiotics since it's really going to be so sporadic.
IF you see any sign of reddness, or discharge, we will start them up again.
It looks like it's drying up wonderfully,
just keep an eye on him.........I know you will! :hug

tomcics
11-01-2015, 05:55 PM
[CENTER]Orlando's progress from 10/17 to 11/1

WOW Tom, you did an amazing job with Orlando! :bowdown

I think that you can stop the antibiotics since it's really going to be so sporadic.
IF you see any sign of reddness, or discharge, we will start them up again.
It looks like it's drying up wonderfully,
just keep an eye on him.........I know you will! :hug

Thanks Nancy - appreciate the comparison pics and the expert advise during Orlando's injury/healing process.

I will keep my eyes open for any new issues, I thought he looked much better today and from a distance, I did not recognize him because that eye did not look swollen. I remember first time I seen him, my heart just dropped.

tomcics
11-01-2015, 05:57 PM
Oh wow Tom, he looks SO much better now!! :dance Wonderful update!! :w00t

Thanks Len Len's Mom - it was nice to see him today and notice the improvement so clearly.

tomcics
11-01-2015, 05:58 PM
Oh my goodness...Orlando looks fabulous! I think he would be okay without the AB, but it probably wouldn't hurt either.

Thanks SammysMom - I will be watching him closely (and hoping he gives me that opportunity to see him often).

California Squirrel Lover
11-01-2015, 06:34 PM
Wow, he really took a beating, didn't he, poor love. When I look at all the pics lined up, of course I can see how huge the improvement is, but still, he really has gone through a rough time. :( He's still such a beautiful boy, and such a sweetheart. :Love_Icon:Love_Icon

Shewhosweptforest
11-01-2015, 10:16 PM
It really is amazing how much he's improved:bowdown I do firmly believe his quick recovery is do to his extra boost of bacteria fighting AB's :grin3 and I know he must feel so much better :Love_Icon

lovesmice
11-02-2015, 09:52 AM
I am sure you were much relieved to see him yesterday. The pictures make for really happy news. They are great shots anyway, but especially nice because he looks so much better. I like the comparison shots Nancy did, and I agree with Sweeps' comment about the ABs helping him get better quicker. Nancy was kind to send the ABs, and you did a terrific job getting them into him and making sure he had food. Orlando sure knew to come to the right place to get help.

TubeDriver
11-02-2015, 11:56 AM
Orlando looks much better. :w00t Those darker patches on his exposed skin are hopefully new hair growth which usually signifies the infection is over. That would be the most important thing to watch for now, new hair growth!

Hi is still a handsome boy and he should be able to survive out there with just one eye, especially if he gets some treats from you! :grin2

Rocky1
11-02-2015, 01:43 PM
Love the picture of Clara looking at Orlando. I wonder if they are related. They are both such beautiful squirrels.

tomcics
11-02-2015, 02:14 PM
Wow, he really took a beating, didn't he, poor love. When I look at all the pics lined up, of course I can see how huge the improvement is, but still, he really has gone through a rough time. :( He's still such a beautiful boy, and such a sweetheart. :Love_Icon:Love_Icon

Hello California Squirrel Lover, yes poor little guy went thru Hell I'm sure. I am very pleased with the help of Nancy and TSBers, he is healing well.

tomcics
11-02-2015, 02:15 PM
Love the picture of Clara looking at Orlando. I wonder if they are related. They are both such beautiful squirrels.

Thanks Rocky1 - I think Clara and Orlando have mated but the relationship was taxed by another woman in the relationship - Carrie.

tomcics
11-02-2015, 02:16 PM
Orlando looks much better. :w00t Those darker patches on his exposed skin are hopefully new hair growth which usually signifies the infection is over. That would be the most important thing to watch for now, new hair growth!

Hi is still a handsome boy and he should be able to survive out there with just one eye, especially if he gets some treats from you! :grin2

Thanks TubeDriver - yes I think I noticed some new hair growth which made me very happy to see

tomcics
11-02-2015, 02:17 PM
It really is amazing how much he's improved:bowdown I do firmly believe his quick recovery is do to his extra boost of bacteria fighting AB's :grin3 and I know he must feel so much better :Love_Icon

Thanks Sweeps - I agree the ABs must of helped, I really didn't expect to see that much improvement so fast.

tomcics
11-02-2015, 02:21 PM
I am sure you were much relieved to see him yesterday. The pictures make for really happy news. They are great shots anyway, but especially nice because he looks so much better. I like the comparison shots Nancy did, and I agree with Sweeps' comment about the ABs helping him get better quicker. Nancy was kind to send the ABs, and you did a terrific job getting them into him and making sure he had food. Orlando sure knew to come to the right place to get help.

Thanks lovesmice - it was a huge relief to see him, especially with hawk in area and also worrying about the effect of meds. I do believe the worse days of the injury Orlando spent alone resting and came to see me when he was hungry and needed some assistance. The first time I spotted him with the injury he was competing with several others for treats that was on neighbor's lawn.

Rocky1
11-03-2015, 01:34 AM
Thanks Rocky1 - I think Clara and Orlando have mated but the relationship was taxed by another woman in the relationship - Carrie.

These are going to be the cutest babies!

tomcics
11-03-2015, 06:51 AM
These are going to be the cutest babies!

Thanks Rocky1 - wish I am lucky enough someday to actually see some foxer babies here.

SugarBugFerret
12-02-2015, 03:59 AM
I just saw that last pic of Orlando. All I can say is WOW! He looks fantastic! Whatever infection he has/had in there is gone or just about so. No swelling, no redness... That tough boy looks like he is going to be just fine as a one-eyed wonder squirrel! Have there been any recent sightings?

tomcics
12-02-2015, 09:18 AM
Hello SugarBugFerret

Yes Orlando looked great last time I saw him, unfortunately I have not seen him or his little friend Stan since. It is not unusual though for the male foxers to drop out of sight this time of year here. My gut feeling is he is fine where ever he is, thanks for thinking about him :hug.

California Squirrel Lover
12-02-2015, 05:56 PM
I'd sure love to hear about an Orlando sighting soon. :Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

SammysMom
12-02-2015, 08:03 PM
I'd sure love to hear about an Orlando sighting soon. :Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

Me too!!!

Shewhosweptforest
12-02-2015, 08:46 PM
Me too!!!

Me three! :Love_Icon