PDA

View Full Version : Found baby with bad teeth



Guga
04-15-2015, 06:39 AM
Hi guys,

a week ago i saw a squirrel fall from about 5 meters.
She is fine, anything broken. But i don't like her teeths. 255733
She eats only milk, puppy food with syringe. I think they're over grow. May be vet will help?
Please tell me what to do with her, she is so sweet little baby. Judging by her size she is probably 1-2 months old, but don't think she is older.

Hope i can help her!
:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

squirrelfriend
04-15-2015, 09:27 AM
Yes her teeth are definitely overgrown. If you have a vet that will see her they can trim them or you can learn how to do it yourself. There might be a video or tutorial here on the board somewhere. If anyone knows where it is can you post the link for it?

The teeth need to be trimmed right away. Those lower ones look like they are stabbing her upper gums and may even penetrate her nasal cavity soon. I know this because I have a couple with the same problem. I have to trim them every couple of weeks.

You may have yourself a forever pet. If her teeth are not aligned properly then she shouldn't be released. They need regular trimming otherwise they will over grow and can prevent her from eating. They can also grow so long that they will be stabbing her in the mouth, pallet and nose.

Please eve keep us updated on how she is. She's a cutie. Thank you for helping her.

Annabelle's papa
04-15-2015, 02:57 PM
:)Hi Guga, were you able to have the Lil' One seen by a vet today, the teeth definitely appear to be too long as squirrelfriend said, and they don't look aligned properly either. (Malocclusion) :sadness

:)How has Shoko, Choco been doing, do you have any recent photos you could post.:Love_Icon

Guga
04-16-2015, 06:14 AM
Thank you very much,

i speak with the vet today, she told me that teeth should necessarily be cut. Here in my town there are veterinary clinics, but they can not readily make anesthesia so little animal (cats and dogs only) so I kept an appointment for Sunday morning. There have machine for cutting teeth, which prefer to work because of pliers can break teeth, and cut with this machine is more proper. The vet said that it is not normal, the teeth of wild animal to be over grown.

She tries to eat some apple, but growls while eating, I guess that hurt her :(

I hope everything will be fine with the procedure. After that i will inform you about her condition.

Dear Annabelle's papa, thanks for asking about Choko, he says "hi" :)

I can glory that I grow squirrel in good health and shape. He is in a great mood, we had no problems with coccidia no more. Now he moult and is very sleek and very fluffy. Every day he enjoys sunbathing and a lot of playing. Now he waits his new friend to come home (after she goes to the vet).
As you wish i'm posting some pictures of him :) Enjoy

PS. On one of the pictures you can see what he did to his wooden box for just 15 days :D
255775255776255777255778255779255780255781

Annabelle's papa
04-17-2015, 01:03 AM
:)Good Morning Guga, Thank You for posting the new pictures of Choko he really looks wonderful, :klunk are those cherry blossoms in the bottom pictures.:great You are very fortunate to have good vets where you are, and it sounds as though he is going to use a grinding or cutting type of tool to do the Lil' Girls teeth. There can be some pain involved however vets over here don't use pain medicine either unless it's absolutely necessary, but you can get some liquid 'infant' ibuprofen pain reliever to give her but you will have to get the dosing instructions from someone here on the Board before you use any with her.:thumbsup

:)You will need a proper weight on the Lil' Girl to have the pain medicine dosed for her, or if you could post an additional photo of her next to a can of soup her weight can be closely guessed.:great

:)Choko really did enjoy his house and it looks like he is ready for another one already, I'm sure his teeth are doing just fine.:dance

:)Post more photos of Choko and your Lil' Girl when you get a chance, you are doing a wonderful job with both of them.:Love_Icon

czarina
04-17-2015, 02:46 AM
Hi, I love the pictures of your squirrels! I can tell by the way you write about them how much you care for them. Looks like you are doing a wonderful job.
And I agree, I think he is ready for another house!

I am very glad that the vet is willing to help your new guy. Hopefully, if there isn't much permanent damage, to the tissues in his mouth, there is a very good chance that after a few trimmings, his teeth will correct themselves, and grow normally.

While you are at the vet, ask them for a 1cc syringe, with no needle. You will need this to give your squirrel a proper dose of the infant ibuprofen. And, as Annabel's papa suggested, if you don't know his actual weight, if can get a picture of him next to a soda or soup can, we can guess his weight, and will be able to give you the correct dose of infant ibuprofen to give him.

I am sure those teeth are really hurting him, poor little guy.

Guga
04-17-2015, 05:32 AM
Hi everyone,

Anabelle's papa, yes it is cherry blossoms, i'm giving him twigs and flower buds from different fruit trees - cherry, apple, plooms and from conifers - spruce, scotch pine and etc. Fortunately it is already spring and there is wide variety of vegetation, quality salads, vegetables anf fruits.

About the good vets, unfortunately in my town there isn't specialist hwo can help me, so i have to travel 170km to the biggest and prestigious veterinary clinic in the country. With a lot of specialist and major equipment. This clinic serves the largest zoo here in Bulgaria, and I agree to trust them, although the longer trip.

Few are the people here in Bulgaria we grow this type of animal, so the experts are not much. That's why I rely so much on your expertise and opinions :thankyou

About the girl's teeth, on Sunday i will take her, and go to the vets. Choko's weight i measure on kitchen scale, give him something to eat on the scale and he is stays there very obedient :reallybiggrin. I will try this with the little one, hope she will be good to me :)

Thanks for advice about pain medicine. I will speak with the vet about the pain medicine. May be they have some solution. Otherwise i think can find here infant ibuprofen.

About the house of Choco, he has already a new house. His "daddy" made especially for him a house with a roof of tree bark to have something to destroy our little beast :) This days he starts another project for larger cage for Choco and the girl (she isn't at home with us already, so she has no name :( ) I'll upload photos after the cage is done.

And again about her teeth, when she will start to eat after the cutting (1-3 days maybe) I'm seriously concerned about her condition after the cutting, she was never traveling, she will be anestesied, and the pain... I hope she wouldn't be really scared of this things. :dono

CritterMom
04-17-2015, 06:02 AM
Hi everyone,

Anabelle's papa, yes it is cherry blossoms, i'm giving him twigs and flower buds from different fruit trees - cherry, apple, plooms and from conifers - spruce, scotch pine and etc. Fortunately it is already spring and there is wide variety of vegetation, quality salads, vegetables anf fruits.

About the good vets, unfortunately in my town there isn't specialist hwo can help me, so i have to travel 170km to the biggest and prestigious veterinary clinic in the country. With a lot of specialist and major equipment. This clinic serves the largest zoo here in Bulgaria, and I agree to trust them, although the longer trip.

Few are the people here in Bulgaria we grow this type of animal, so the experts are not much. That's why I rely so much on your expertise and opinions :thankyou

About the girl's teeth, on Sunday i will take her, and go to the vets. Choko's weight i measure on kitchen scale, give him something to eat on the scale and he is stays there very obedient :reallybiggrin. I will try this with the little one, hope she will be good to me :)

Thanks for advice about pain medicine. I will speak with the vet about the pain medicine. May be they have some solution. Otherwise i think can find here infant ibuprofen.

About the house of Choco, he has already a new house. His "daddy" made especially for him a house with a roof of tree bark to have something to destroy our little beast :) This days he starts another project for larger cage for Choco and the girl (she isn't at home with us already, so she has no name :( ) I'll upload photos after the cage is done.

And again about her teeth, when she will start to eat after the cutting (1-3 days maybe) I'm seriously concerned about her condition after the cutting, she was never traveling, she will be anestesied, and the pain... I hope she wouldn't be really scared of this things. :dono

You are a good squirrel parent - researching and finding someone who can help!

She will likely be sleepy after the anesthesia. Make her a nice little bed in the travel cage and pile lots of soft rags in there so she can burrow in and make herself comfortable. I would also bring a blanket or something so you can almost completely cover it on the outside, so she feels nice and protected while you are driving.

We need to do some digging for you for information. She will likely need to have this done at least a few times if not for the rest of her life. You CAN do it yourself, with the proper clippers. Doing the first one at the vet is good because so much needs to be trimmed off, but if you keep after it yourself you shouldn't need to remove so much tooth ever again. There are threads on the board with info about tooth trimming.

Guga
04-17-2015, 06:33 AM
I will ask the vet, if i can be there when they're trimming the teeths, to show me what and how can i do this the next time. If she can gave me some advice and show me "on air" how to do this, it will be perfect.
I have a small cage with a bag to cover it up when travell, and i will put inside a lot of rags for more comfy :)

Start thinking she will be fine :)

Annabelle's papa
04-17-2015, 06:37 AM
:)Good Morning Guga, Squirrels are illegal to own in almost every state here also, and some members have to travel several hundred kilometers to have their Squirrel seen by a good vet.:tilt

:)Stay in contact to get some good information on pain reliever dosing when you need it, I'm sure the Lil' Girl will be just fine.:thumbsup

Guga
04-17-2015, 06:38 AM
:woot Just now i was playng with Choco, and noticed something. Look at the balls (or as they are called) i think they're too red. Is it normal?
255855255856255857

island rehabber
04-17-2015, 06:54 AM
The skin there does look a little irritated. Do you see any bumps or bites, or signs of a parasite on him? What a beautiful squirrel he is!!

nchls_school
04-17-2015, 07:15 AM
Hi guys,

a week ago i saw a squirrel fall from about 5 meters.
She is fine, anything broken. But i don't like her teeths.
She eats only milk, puppy food with syringe. I think they're over grow. May be vet will help?
Please tell me what to do with her, she is so sweet little baby. Judging by her size she is probably 1-2 months old, but don't think she is older.

Hope i can help her!
:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

If you need to learn to clip teeth I do not believe it is painful to the squirrel. Our red squirrel has worse teeth; the lowers grow towards and into the nostrils and the top teeth grow inward towards the throat. We clip Peanut's teeth every two weeks. At first it was difficult, mostly because of the squirrel's fear and ours. It has now been six months of clipping every two weeks. Immediately after clipping Peanut wants to eat and play; from his behavior I doubt there is any pain. Be sure to get a good pair of clippers. If the clippers are dull or of poor quality the teeth will break off and that's a rather scary situation. Before getting a good pair of clippers one of Peanut's lower teeth did break off. We were lucky in that the tooth broke horizontally and above the gum line. With some additional trimming the teeth grew back as they were before breaking in a matter of a few weeks. When we first started clipping we gave Peanut a small piece of bread to chew on after the clipping. This seemed to help. Initially there was some bleeding and the bread worked well in stopping it. Chewing the bit of bread seemed to comfort the squirrel. Peanut now seems to look forward to getting a treat after the clipping. He no longer struggles and that is great. With the top teeth we have to reach far into the mouth to clip them and Peanut is very small-130 grams. What took a long time and a lot of anxiety now just takes a few seconds. Good luck to you.

Annabelle's papa
04-18-2015, 06:02 AM
If you need to learn to clip teeth I do not believe it is painful to the squirrel. Our red squirrel has worse teeth; the lowers grow towards and into the nostrils and the top teeth grow inward towards the throat. We clip Peanut's teeth every two weeks. At first it was difficult, mostly because of the squirrel's fear and ours. It has now been six months of clipping every two weeks. Immediately after clipping Peanut wants to eat and play; from his behavior I doubt there is any pain. Be sure to get a good pair of clippers. If the clippers are dull or of poor quality the teeth will break off and that's a rather scary situation. Before getting a good pair of clippers one of Peanut's lower teeth did break off. We were lucky in that the tooth broke horizontally and above the gum line. With some additional trimming the teeth grew back as they were before breaking in a matter of a few weeks. When we first started clipping we gave Peanut a small piece of bread to chew on after the clipping. This seemed to help. Initially there was some bleeding and the bread worked well in stopping it. Chewing the bit of bread seemed to comfort the squirrel. Peanut now seems to look forward to getting a treat after the clipping. He no longer struggles and that is great. With the top teeth we have to reach far into the mouth to clip them and Peanut is very small-130 grams. What took a long time and a lot of anxiety now just takes a few seconds. Good luck to you.

:goodpost

Guga
04-21-2015, 10:26 AM
Hi guys,
sorry for not posting in a few days.

Little Tuti is fine, the journey was not too stressful for her :) .
After anesthesia vet was able to better look at what is happening with hers teeth.
Unfortunately the results are not so good.
It has misaligned jaw as a result of which teeth are not in place. She cut them a little, but not much because she was afraid of infection if affect the tubules of the teeth.
Now Tutti agrees to eat mushrooms, apples, hazelnuts and pecan. But nothing solid.
Try to eat carrot, squeezed it, bit it, growled, licked it and no longer wanted.
From my observations it seems to me that no teeth ache, but gums which has been hurt before.
The vet told me to daub with pansoral, but it is very difficult because Tuti is at home since 3 days and still not trust me enough.
I will try to take some pictures of her new smile to show you what happend there.

Oh i forgot to say, Choco does not seems to like Tutti, and this is also a problem, obviously he kept his territory and us also.
:peace1

Guga
04-21-2015, 10:30 AM
If you need to learn to clip teeth I do not believe it is painful to the squirrel. Our red squirrel has worse teeth; the lowers grow towards and into the nostrils and the top teeth grow inward towards the throat. We clip Peanut's teeth every two weeks. At first it was difficult, mostly because of the squirrel's fear and ours. It has now been six months of clipping every two weeks. Immediately after clipping Peanut wants to eat and play; from his behavior I doubt there is any pain. Be sure to get a good pair of clippers. If the clippers are dull or of poor quality the teeth will break off and that's a rather scary situation. Before getting a good pair of clippers one of Peanut's lower teeth did break off. We were lucky in that the tooth broke horizontally and above the gum line. With some additional trimming the teeth grew back as they were before breaking in a matter of a few weeks. When we first started clipping we gave Peanut a small piece of bread to chew on after the clipping. This seemed to help. Initially there was some bleeding and the bread worked well in stopping it. Chewing the bit of bread seemed to comfort the squirrel. Peanut now seems to look forward to getting a treat after the clipping. He no longer struggles and that is great. With the top teeth we have to reach far into the mouth to clip them and Peanut is very small-130 grams. What took a long time and a lot of anxiety now just takes a few seconds. Good luck to you.

Thank you so much for this post, it will be very useful if she does not start on its own to deal with the problem. :thankyou

TubeDriver
04-21-2015, 10:51 AM
Here is an example of trimming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xfk6UEMmI


A couple things are important

1) Get a high quality trimmer, something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Wittex-Germany-Nail-Clippers-Diabetics/dp/B00RXOQSCK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1429630954&sr=8-7&keywords=german+clipper

or this:

http://www.amazon.com/Wiha-56813-Precision-Electronic-Diagonal/dp/B003XNTA2K/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0AK2MWYNBY0XJWA45J6K


2) It is FAR better to trim and leave a tooth too long then cut a tooth too short. If you cut too short, you could damage the root which can be very dangerous.


3) burritoing your squirrel (wrapping in towel) might help him to be calm and to lee him in control.

4) you can use a pencil to hold open your squirrels mouth

5) wear glasses as the clipped tooth can shoot of and hit you in the eye (also make sure it does not get into squirrel's throat).

6) Once you get comfortable doing this, it can be done in under a minute.

7) Will probably need to be done every 3 weeks.


Good Luck! :thumbsup