On way to get baby squirrel need refresher

[MyLittleMercy]

Picking up baby squirrel, less than 5 min away. do not know age or weight yet. people said he is covered in flies & possibly mites & looks very weak. How long should i give him water from syringe until i can give him formula? I have fox valley at home. Do i use joy detergent with wet wash cloth for flies and mites? Any advice, I would be grateful.

[Milo's Mom]

Picking up baby squirrel, less than 5 min away. do not know age or weight yet. people said he is covered in flies & possibly mites & looks very weak. How long should i give him water from syringe until i can give him formula? I have fox valley at home. Do i use joy detergent with wet wash cloth for flies and mites? Any advice, I would be grateful.


Warm first
Hydrate with hydration fluid for 24 hours
Start on diluted formula and work to full strength

Depending on the level of dehydration you may need to do some "in between" water feedings (feed at 12, water at 2, feed at 4, water at 6, etc.)

DAWN dishsoap

[MyLittleMercy]

You are a doll!!! Thank u :) It's a little boy approx 7 - 8 weeks old.

Got him warm, fed him 5 cc's of sugar water. He is sleeping in a fleece snuggie close to my body until i plug heating pad in. How often should i feed him the sugar water? He was starving! He grabbed a hold of that syringe with both hands! :)

Need prayers for this little gift!!! He is beautiful!!!


Warm first
Hydrate with hydration fluid for 24 hours
Start on diluted formula and work to full strength

Depending on the level of dehydration you may need to do some "in between" water feedings (feed at 12, water at 2, feed at 4, water at 6, etc.)

DAWN dishsoap

[Milo's Mom]

I'd start with every 2 hours.

Get a weight on him too when you get a chance.

[MyLittleMercy]

ok thanks ♡ after next feeding i will get weight & post. i'll upload pics too so u can see how beautiful he is.


I'd start with every 2 hours.

Get a weight on him too when you get a chance.

[MyLittleMercy]

Guys please help, he is not taking pediatlyte mixture that i made from recipe from here. What do i do? He's dehydrated (did pinch test) and he will not drink. He drank 5 ccs at 7 of mixture but will not take at this feeding. :(

[MyLittleMercy]

he took 5 cc's of pedialyte mixture (found on here) but refuses to eat anymore 2 hours later. He is dehydrated & he took it so good the 1st feeding at 7. I dont know if he is going to make it or not. i dont know what else to do. He is warm, did pinch test but he did not want anymore fluid. He just wants to sleep. :(

[Rhapsody]

Guys please help, he is not taking pediatlyte mixture that i made from recipe from here. What do i do?
He's dehydrated (did pinch test) and he will not drink. He drank 5 ccs at 7 of mixture but will not take at this feeding. :(Did you warm it back up? --squirrels like the liquids they drink to be warm --moms milk is hot when it comes out.

[Rhapsody]

Did you warm it back up? --squirrels like the liquids they drink to be warm --moms milk is hot when it comes out.

[MyLittleMercy]

Yes i put fluid in syringe & than in mug with hot water. tested it before i tried to give to him. im holding syringe so that end is up & pushed out drop but instead of swallowing it, it is coming right back out of his mouth.

[Nancy in New York]

he took 5 cc's of pedialyte mixture (found on here) but refuses to eat anymore 2 hours later. He is dehydrated & he took it so good the 1st feeding at 7. I dont know if he is going to make it or not. i dont know what else to do. He is warm, did pinch test but he did not want anymore fluid. He just wants to sleep. :(

OK, calm down and let's back up for a minute.
When did you get the little one.
When you say pedialyte mixture what do you mean,
the homemade one with water,salt and sugar?
How old is he, and how long have you had him.
ARE his eyes open?
Do you have him on LOW heat?
I will wait for your answers for a while before I ask more
questions.
Can you post pictures?

[MyLittleMercy]

he looks more like 6 weeks instead of 7 to 8 weeks old. im getting weight on him now.

[Rhapsody]

Yes i put fluid in syringe & than in mug with hot water. tested it before i tried to give to him. im holding syringe so that end is up & pushed out drop but instead of swallowing it, it is coming right back out of his mouth.Try just placing a few drops of water on his mouth and see if he will take it?

[MyLittleMercy]

I just tried to give him couple more drops, it comes right back out :(

[Nancy in New York]

You have two threads going on here. I am going to combine them.
I did not see your other thread.

[Rhapsody]

She just picked him up tonight Nancy - and she was trying to hydrate him.


Picking up baby squirrel, less than 5 min away. do not know age or weight yet. people said he is covered in flies & possibly mites & looks very weak. How long should i give him water from syringe until i can give him formula? I have fox valley at home. Do i use joy detergent with wet wash cloth for flies and mites? Any advice, I would be grateful.

[Rhapsody]

I just tried to give him couple more drops, it comes right back out :(
How is his breathing? --is it shallow.
Was he covered with flies, fleas or mites?

(((hugs)))

[MyLittleMercy]

Nancy, I originally posted earlier today with refresher course om emergency board. Got him tonight at 7pm. Eyes were opened. He wrapped both of his hands around syringe and took drop by drop up to 5 cc's. Have him in box on heating pad low, started trying to feed at 9. Yes mixture is 4 cups water ((1 quart) 1 teaspoon salt, 1 tablespoon sugar. No injuries. let me get on computer downstairs and send pic to this link.
Thanks Nancy

[MyLittleMercy]

My brother found him this evening, he was on tree barely hanging on. said he had flies on him & put him in box till we got there. i did not see any flies. he weighs 8 grams.

[Rhapsody]

My brother found him this evening, he was on tree barely hanging on. said he had flies on him & put him in box till we got there. i did not see any flies. he weighs 8 grams.
Is he a pinkie (or) a squirrel with fur that is starved?
Do you have a soft blanket over the heating pad?

...... how is his breathing? --shallow.

[MyLittleMercy]

Here is a pic when we first brought him home

[Rhapsody]

He looks good.... are there any wounds on him we are not seeing?
Please weigh him again, he has to weigh more than 8 grams.

Thanks.

I would put him at 6-8 weeks due to his white belly, just under weight poss.

[MyLittleMercy]

Rhapsody,

I just posted pic...i have him in box with fleece blankets over heating pad on low. His breathing is slow, but than again, I'm not real sure what normal breathing should look like?

[MyLittleMercy]

Let me get another weight on him and I will be right back

Thank you for your help :Love_Icon

[Nancy in New York]

If he took 5 cc's already, he may be full. Clearly he is under 100 grams, and the rule of thumb is
5-7% of their body weight.
He may be full for now.

edit: Just a little recap, he took 5 cc's at 7:00 tonight, correct?

[Rhapsody]

If he took 5 cc's already, he may be full. Clearly he is under 100 grams, and the rule of thumb is
5-7% of their body weight.
He may be full for now. That is what i was just thinking to Nancy. :thumbsup
I would give him 5% body weight of pedialyte every 3-4 for 12 to 24 hours,
depending on how dehydrated he is.... then start him on the diluted formula.

....... all is well... baby is not dying - he just has a full tummy. (((hugs)))

[MyLittleMercy]

Ok, thank you for reassuring us! Yes, he did take 5 cc's at 7 pm this evening. I just re-weighed him and he is 8 grams (without blankie, just him) Also, no wounds...he does have a few mites. Do you guys think I should wait to do wet wash cloth with Dawn until tomorrow? Or should I do tonight?

[Nancy in New York]

Ok, thank you for reassuring us! Yes, he did take 5 cc's at 7 pm this evening. I just re-weighed him and he is 8 grams (without blankie, just him) Also, no wounds...he does have a few mites. Do you guys think I should wait to do wet wash cloth with Dawn until tomorrow? Or should I do tonight?

Honestly he can't be 8 grams.....Put a quarter and a dime in your hand, that is 8 grams.
Is he heavier than that? (God I hope so). :grin2
Go weigh a quarter and a dime and let me know what you get, OK?

See this little one? This is a little pinky red that I got last year, his
weight is 11 grams.
241866

[MyLittleMercy]

ok checking now :Love_Icon

[IncrediblyPink]

I had scale issues a week or so ago. Weigh 4 quarters. On my scale they were 21 grams. Nancy in New York's scales they were 22. This will at least give you an idea if yours are working properly. I went through 3 and 4th works perfectly! Good luck! Praying for your guy!!!

[pappy1264]

Oh he is a little one, so 5 cc's is quite a bit, he probably won't take any for a while, but you should still potty him now if you have not already, as he will have to go potty, most likely (although may not if he is really dehydrated). Def. not 8 grams.

[MyLittleMercy]

just weighed a quarter and a dime at 8 grams.
put plastic plate on top of scale, cleared to 0 and put him on scale. 8 grams

[Rhapsody]

Are you using a digital scale? --if not, remember those lines are 10 or 20 grams each.

[MyLittleMercy]

here is the pic of the scale

[MyLittleMercy]

yes, it's digital

[Rhapsody]

Yeah - I see it is a digital scale, but some thing has to be off, as he weighs
more than 8 grams (that would make him a pinkie). I would place him at a
good 50 to 60 grams and that would be placing him under weight.

[Nancy in New York]

I had scale issues a week or so ago. Weigh 4 quarters. On my scale they were 21 grams. Nancy in New York's scales they were 22. This will at least give you an idea if yours are working properly. I went through 3 and 4th works perfectly! Good luck! Praying for your guy!!!
See 4 is the charm, right? :poke

[Nancy in New York]

Does he feel heavier than the dime and the quarter?

[MyLittleMercy]

Both times we weighed him at 8 grams (which is the same when we put quarter and dime at 8 grams) Something has to be off with our scale :eek

[ALittleNutty]

There is definitely something wrong with the scale. If it runs on batteries they may need changing or try changing mode from grams to ounces and see what you get. One ounce = 28.35 grams (I rounded it off).

[MyLittleMercy]

he is very light, about the same when I hold the quarter and dime in my hand.

[Nancy in New York]

Both times we weighed him at 8 grams (which is the same when we put quarter and dime at 8 grams) Something has to be off with our scale :eek

Well the dime and the quarter are right.
Can you just "plop" him on the scale like you did with the dime and quarter?

[Nancy in New York]

he is very light, about the same when I hold the quarter and dime in my hand.

:eek OMG seriously I don't even know if that's possible and him still being alive.
Are his eyes open?

[MyLittleMercy]

thanks a little nutty, I will try now

[MyLittleMercy]

Nancy, his eyes were opened and he opened them from sleeping when we put him back on the scale. Something has to be wrong with this scale. let me try changing scale to ounces

[Nancy in New York]

Nancy, his eyes were opened and he opened them from sleeping when we put him back on the scale. Something has to be wrong with this scale. let me try changing scale to ounces

:thumbsup
This is the same little red that's on the
other page, but he weighs 19 grams here.
See how small, please tell me that your's is
larger than this little guy?

[MyLittleMercy]

Oh my gosh, my husband had it on KG instead of G!!! Urghhh!!!!! Sorry :grin3
Whoops! This was for sure a user ERROR!!!!:bash
CORRECT WEIGHT is: 2.9 ounces = 82.2 grams

[MyLittleMercy]

He has not gone potty yet. (I'm hoping due to dehydration. He just drank few drops (Thank God!) only 1 cc. Should I express bladder?

[MyLittleMercy]

Thanks for being patient with me Nancy :Love_Icon

[MyLittleMercy]

I think I'm the one that needs prayers!:eek

[Nancy in New York]

Oh my gosh, my husband had it on KG instead of G!!! Urghhh!!!!! Sorry :grin3
Whoops! This was for sure a user ERROR!!!!:bash
CORRECT WEIGHT is: 2.9 ounces = 82.2 grams

Perfect. That sounds right!:)

[ALittleNutty]

Oh my gosh, my husband had it on KG instead of G!!! Urghhh!!!!! Sorry :grin3
Whoops! This was for sure a user ERROR!!!!:bash
CORRECT WEIGHT is: 2.9 ounces = 82.2 grams

Glad you figured it out. My husband changes my shipping scale all the time, lol! 82 grams sounds much better!

[MyLittleMercy]

Thanks guys:Love_Icon

[Nancy in New York]

Have you ever raised a squirrel before?
Just asking if you want us to try to find a rehabber for you.
We have several in Maryland that we can reach out to.
This little one may not pee right away, he is so dehydrated.
BUT if you see the tummy getting hard and doesn't go down,
and has not peed or pooped, then nothing by mouth until we
get the tummy, (bloat) down.

[Nancy in New York]

My brother found him this evening, he was on tree barely hanging on. said he had flies on him & put him in box till we got there. i did not see any flies. he weighs 8 grams.

One more thing, please tell your brother to listen and watch for more.
Send him this link and tell him this is what he needs to be listening for.
If this baby was coming down the tree and barely hangin on, there couold be
more and most likely mama is not around.
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?37716-BABY-SQUIRREL-CALLING-FOR-MOM

[MyLittleMercy]

Thanks Nancy. This little guy will be my 3rd squirrel. The two prior were not dehydrated like this little guy & I panicked. I have fox valley formula powder & block in freezer from Henrys. We are meeting a new vet in our area this Friday (taking 2 sugar gliders to her to get exam) & will see if she can be on stand by for this little guy. He should be able to potty himself, but I will keep an eye on his tummy. Step was a HUGE help with our first squirrel, Mercy. He had broken leg & abcess from cat bite. He still visits us. Pecan was our second & we released earlier this year. They have brought lots of love and joy to us. I'm sure we will be good with this little guy, especially with all of your support!!! Thank u soooo much for helping. ♡

[MyLittleMercy]

We brought the ladders out and checked nests in tree he was in & 2 other nests that were close by. We did not see any other babies & I hope he was the only one :(Thanks for sending me the link. I will message link to him ♡

[redwuff]

Hi Mercy,

:thankyou for taking in this one. How is he doing this morning?

Best of luck and know that you have some good rehabbers near you, starting with Step, if you need help.

Trysh

[MyLittleMercy]

Hey Trysh,

He is still not out of the woods yet but he is A LOT better today!!! He doesn't want me to put him down & he climbs fast so he can stay close to me. I started him on diluted fox valley this afternoon and doing hydration in between feedings. He is so beautiful, I know he's gonna make it & I'm not going to think any other way. When we first brought him home, I didn't think he was going to make it. He was really dehydrated but I've been getting fluids in him drop by drop. His last feedings, he drank .5 cc's of fluid & 2 cc's of diluted formula. I have to feed him often as he will only take so much at a time. He is going potty both ways. Has dark runny stools but I'm glad he's going. His energy level has improved from last night. So far so good ♡ I messages step but I'm sure he is still snoozin! lol I will probably hear back from him today. Will upload more pics to this thread in little bit so you guys can see this little stinker! lol And yes, everyone on this board is AMAZING & super helpful. I wouldn't be able to be a part of this precious little gift if it wasn't for this board! You are in MD right? Do you have any babies this season? Or should I ask how many babies do you have? ;-)

[MyLittleMercy]

Could someone please help? We have had Miracle since last weds. The 1st few days were rough, but he started coming around and had been doing really good. I have been feeding him FV full strength (worked up to) and have been adding 1/3 vanilla flavored yoplait to formula. This past Mon his weight was 103g and was eating 7 cc's every feeding. He weighed 100g this morning (1 day later) and has been taking less formula (started with 4 cc's, went to bathroom, slept) and each feeding after that he was eating less and less down to 3 cc's. His stomach looked a little bloated after he ate 3 cc's at 9:30 p.m. I gave him .3 cc simethicone & laid him flat over my shoulder, patted him for 20 min and massaged his tummy until he was clearly uncomfortable, pushing my fingers away. During the patting and the massaging he twitched a few times. He is not clicking but he does sneeze every once in a while. He is peeing great & but he did not poop today. (He has been pooping and everything has looked great) I noticed him scratching at his ears earlier today and he also shook his head a few times. Most of the day & night he sleeps in between feedings. I feed, he goes to the bathroom and wants to go back to sleep. Is this normal for an approx 6 week old squirrel to be this tired? He has sneezed a few times but I have been very careful with feeding and also use miracle nipples. I have attached some pictures to show you his belly. It does feel a little firm but still squishy. He curls up in a ball and doesn't want me touching his tummy. Also, he was covered in Flies when my brother 1st found him and I found maggot eggs on his back and his legs. I gave him 1/4 capstar and diluted with a little water last Sunday.

1st Question: Does his stomach look overly bloated? If so, how much and how often can I give him the simethicone & is .3 the appropriate dose for 100 g baby? Also, as long as I can get the bloat down in his tummy can I continue to feed him? I was thinking I should add 3 parts of water to FV instead of 2 parts. Will be going tomorrow to get Esbilac with ProBiotics instead of using Yogurt. Any other suggestions?
2nd Question: Is it a possibility that he could have pneumonia? He clicks a little after eating, but it does not continue. He does not click in his sleep. However, he does sleep a lot. Not sure if this is normal. During the day after I feed him, he does run to the potty and he is pretty quick and that hasn't changed.

Am I being paranoid and this is just bloat? I just get so attached to these little guys...I don't want anything to happen to him :(

[farrelli]

A couple drops of infant simethicone can't hurt.

Clicking isn;t necessary for pneumonia but lethargy and lack of appetite usually accompany.

[MyLittleMercy]

Thanks Farrelli
should I start AB?

[MyLittleMercy]

Can someone please help me with meds and dosing instructions for possible pneumonia?

[Rhapsody]

They will need name and mg of med & weight of squirrel to dose.

(((hugs)))

[MyLittleMercy]

Thanks Rhapssody,

Weight 100g
Baytril 250 mg

need dosing please

I think it's .04 but I wanted to confirm

[MyLittleMercy]

I need to know how much water I add to the 250 mg baytril pill please

[MyLittleMercy]

I have baytril 250 mg

need dosing for 100 g squirrel and how much water do i add to crushed tablet?

[island rehabber]

I have baytril 250 mg

need dosing for 100 g squirrel and how much water do i add to crushed tablet?


MLM, this is the dosage if you had a 50mg tablet -- per Jackie in Tampa a few years ago:

crush 50mg baytril
add 4 ccs water
dose for 60 gram sq is
0.05ml{cc}
once a day with probiotics.

CAN ANYONE ELSE convert this to the dose if you had a 250mg tablet?? I DO NOT trust MY MATH.

[redwuff]

Hey Mercy,

Give me a minute and I will figure it out. If you want to come and get some Baytril that is liquid and not hard to dose, I have plenty and can get more when I go to the vet soon. If you are interested let me know and I will PM my number.

Trysh

[Nancy in New York]

I just sent you a pm with dosing help.
:thumbsup

[redwuff]

.04cc is correct if you dilute it with 11cc sterile water

[stepnstone]

I need to know how much water I add to the 250 mg baytril pill please

11cc

[Nancy in New York]

11cc

stepnstone,
She has two threads going on here, I dosed this for her earlier, as did redwuff. :thumbsup

[stepnstone]

Sounds like a little panic going on... stepping out. :dono

[Nancy in New York]

Sounds like a little panic going on... stepping out. :dono

Did she contact you Russell, I know that you have helped her in the past. :dono

[farrelli]

How is he today? I won;t be around for much of today, but if you think he needs ABs, state why, what you have, the strength, and how much he weighs.

[Nancy in New York]

How is he today? I won;t be around for much of today, but if you think he needs ABs, state why, what you have, the strength, and how much he weighs.

Sorry Chris I think this is posted in three different threads, this was already dosed for a 100 gram squirrel. :thumbsup

[MyLittleMercy]

Thank you guys for your help♡

I have given him 2 doses so far and I already see improvement! He is more active & has been awake today more than yesterday.

I need to do some research on where I can get meds to have on hand without having RX. I have seen websites that have meds but they are out of country & wanted to know if anyone has ordered from them before and got the legit med?

Thanks again ♡ I will keep you all updated on Miracles progress. He has had a rough start from the maggots, tummy bloat and now this. I'm praying he will continue to get better♡

Julia

[MyLittleMercy]

Thanks for dosing help :)

I'm getting ready to call Russel now ♡

[MyLittleMercy]

Miracle is doing GREAT! Thank you all for your help:Love_Icon
I talked to Step on phone yesterday and he gave me ratios in transitioning from FV formula to Esbilac Formula.
A huge change from yesterday! He's been running around, crawling all over me, bathroom breaks are normal :bliss
I have him in a temp play pen with the zipper lid and right as feeding time comes around, he takes both of his hands, and lunges at the side of the playpen making a growling noise. Something tells me that he is going to be a fire cracker! He's such a lover and a sweetie though:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon
Is there anyway that we can combine my threads for him? I panicked at the time and wasn't sure if it had to be new thread for emergency.
Thanks SOOOOO SOOOOOO much for all of your help:Love_Icon I wouldn't have been able to save this little one without my mentors on here!!! You guys ROCK!
Here are the latest photos from today. Can't you just see that little ornery look in his eyes! Hee hee
Weight this morning 107 grams!!! YaY!!! First feeding for today was 12 cc's!!!

[Nancy in New York]

I just merged your threads.
Miracle looks fantastic, SO cute! :Love_Icon

[MyLittleMercy]

Wow! That was quick! Thanks Nancy :thumbsup
I will keep updates on him so you guys can watch him grow too:Love_Icon

[Nancy in New York]

Wow! That was quick! Thanks Nancy :thumbsup
I will keep updates on him so you guys can watch him grow too:Love_Icon

Sounds perfect to me!!!!!!!!:)

[rshultz1972]

When ever I raised baby squirrells I went to the pet store and bought a milk replacement for orphan kittens. If they woudnt suck from a little bottle Iwould use a syringe or medacine dropper

[Nancy in New York]

When ever I raised baby squirrells I went to the pet store and bought a milk replacement for orphan kittens. If they woudnt suck from a little bottle Iwould use a syringe or medacine dropper

We always recommend Puppy Esbilac with probiotics (powdered), for neonates and NEVER feed with a bottle or a dropper as they can easily aspirate.
When they are eyes opened you can switch to Fox Valley 20/50 and the Esbilac with probiotics. Do half FV and half Esbilac, they come out just perfect!:thumbsup
Pinkies and up to eyes open use a 1 cc syringe with a nipple, and feed in an upright position.

[MyLittleMercy]

I'm lovin how easy the esbilac mixes! No clumps! FV i would mix with hot water and then put that container in a bowl with hot hot water just to get clumps to dissolve and mix. He is a feisty one! lol