swollen puffy eyes after revolution treatment

[joyceb11]

yesterday I treated George with revolution, every thing was fine this morning when he woke up his eyes are all puffy and swollen and he is franticly trying to wipe them on every thing, I was thinking he might of got some in his eyes or some sort of a reaction, I gave him a quick bath thinking I would wash some of it off and I have been wiping his eyes with a wet paper towel and that seems to help for a little while then he will freak out and start wiping them again, I am not sure what to do I am a little frantic here are some pictures225264225265

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

How old is he and how much does he weigh ? Do you have any liquid children's Benadryl?

[Milo's Mom]

Have you changed his bedding? If not I would do so.

Did you treat with Revolution for a specific reason? Is this the first time you've used it on him? If not, has he ever had this type of a reaction before?

Am I safe to assume you applied the Revolution between his should blades?


EDIT: Do you have any Children's Benedryl? How much does he weigh?

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

How much did you put on him and where did you put it? What strength?
I would change everything in his cage so he can't re-wipe it onto himself, and cold compress on the eye like you were doing, COLD not warm.

[joyceb11]

I have treated him before with the revolution this was a follow up treatment after one month and yes it was between the shoulder blades and no I do not have any childrens benidril, and no he did not have any reactions before

[joyceb11]

should I go buy some Children's Benedryl? I gave him the kitten revolution and he weight 620 grams

[Milo's Mom]

Yes, I would go buy some. It's one of those things I like to have on hand at all times.

[joyceb11]

George is 9 months old and he eats HHB and a healthy diet

[joyceb11]

I will go out and buy some Children's Benedryl right now how much should I give him. and yes his bedding is in the washer right now

[joyceb11]

I gave him two drops of the revolution between his shoulder blades

[iwonka]

I gave him the kitten revolution and he weight 620 grams

How much in ml did you give him?

[Nancy in New York]

I am going to pm the benedryl dosing chart to you.

[joyceb11]

Nancy I got the PM I sent you one back

[joyceb11]

How much in ml did you give him?
I gave him the puppy and kitten for 2.5 kg, two drops

[joyceb11]

It looks like he must of scratched his eyes the are all red and puffy now, I can get him to stop wiping his eyes

[iwonka]

I gave him the puppy and kitten for 2.5 kg, two drops

This is not an overdose then.

[Milo's Mom]

NIN - thanks for sending the dosing info.:thumbsup I was working with MJ and still cannot send or receive PM's.



Joyce - can you calm him down enough to do some cool compresses? I think they'll help him feel better...at least they would me.

[CritterMom]

The benadryl will stop the itching fairly quickly. I would get some ASAP.

[TubeDriver]

The benadryl will stop the itching fairly quickly. I would get some ASAP.

Yes, Benadryl would be good. Hopefully, George will not scratch his cornea as he messes with his eyes.

I helped with the dosing and the amount, type and placement should be ok.

Revolution is irritating to eyes. It may be too late but rinsing with water can help remove it.

I would be cautious about using Revolution again in case this is a true allergic reaction and not just some irritation due to exposure in the eyes.

[Nancy in New York]

The benadryl will stop the itching fairly quickly. I would get some ASAP.
She got it CritterMom and just gave it not that long ago. :thumbsup

[joyceb11]

I just gave him the benadryl and he is calming down. He does not like me right now! I am taking every thing out of his cage and washing it and I have to catch again and get a cool compress on his eyes, I am just letting him calm down a little first. should I give him some childrens ibuprofen also?

[CritterMom]

No, the benadryl should do the trick. I will probably make him a little sleepy, too - it sure does me! Unrelenting itching is very distressing - now that it is going away he should calm down. I would just let the antihistamine do it's thing and not even mess with the compresses if it is upsetting him.

[joyceb11]

He has calmed down a lot and now he is eating his lunch. I will leave him alone now. He must of really scratched him self pretty good he has some blood around the out side of his eyes.225273

[joyceb11]

This picture was before I cleaned him up

[TubeDriver]

Poor George. :grouphug

I would not use Revolution again. If this was a true systemic allergic reaction, the next dose could kill him.

[joyceb11]

Poor George. :grouphug

I would not use Revolution again. If this was a true systemic allergic reaction, the next dose could kill him.

Oh trust me I will not be using revolution again, my baby means way to much to me!!!

[lukaslolamaus]

Poor George hope that the benadryl will work quickly:Love_Icon

[TubeDriver]

Oh trust me I will not be using revolution again, my baby means way to much to me!!!

He might have scratched his corneas when he was messing with his eyes. If this happened, it will heal in a couple days but keep an eye on this. The only risk is that they become infected before they heal.

[kastillo]

Oh my! that poor baby, I did not know revolution could do this. Yikes.

I've never used revolution on my squirrels, probably never will now. I'll use capstar in combo with activyl (recommended by vet) for cats for ectoparasites.

Hope this little guy is feeling better soon.

[TubeDriver]

Oh my! that poor baby, I did not know revolution could do this. Yikes.

I've never used revolution on my squirrels, probably never will now. I'll use capstar in combo with activyl (recommended by vet) for cats for ectoparasites.

Hope this little guy is feeling better soon.

I dont think this is common? Either poor George got some in his eyes or he is allergic to the med.

[California Squirrel Lover]

I hope George is feeling better, poor sweetie :grouphug:grouphug

[joyceb11]

I had to run out to the dentist, and when I got back George had thrown up or had diarrhea I dont know what to do!

[joyceb11]

he was doing ok when I left

[joyceb11]

He ate a HHB before I left

[SammysMom]

Oh poor George...:shakehead This doesn't mean Revolution is bad for every squirrel. I do know that with my cats I only use it once every 2 1/2 - 3 months because they are not exposed to the outdoor and the ticks I worry about. If I am not mistaken it is good for up to 3 months for fleas. Since it does get into their system, maybe it was too soon for him.

[joyceb11]

so is it ok that he got sick?

[SammysMom]

Vomited?

[SammysMom]

If he vomited, what did he vomit? What is he doing right now?

[joyceb11]

he is just sitting in one spot with his head kind of down, I think he threw up the HHB but not sure

[SammysMom]

Give him water via syringe to hydrate him. I am going to try to find help.

[sdreamcatcher]

Oh poor George!! Maybe his tummy is just a little irritated? I will say prayers for him :Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[joyceb11]

he just drank a lot of water

[SammysMom]

I have to leave and will be back in about 30 minutes. I have alerted experienced members.

[TubeDriver]

he just drank a lot of water

This is good! Hydration is always a good thing.

[Nancy in New York]

Since you dosed before with revolution and never had this problem, is there anything different that could have happened?
Did you put new branches in his cage?
Did he eat ANY type of NEW Food?
Do you give him any type of HARD nuts.
Do you keep your HHB's in the freezer or refrig?

[joyceb11]

Since you dosed before with revolution and never had this problem, is there anything different that could have happened?
Did you put new branches in his cage?
Did he eat ANY type of NEW Food?
Do you give him any type of HARD nuts.
Do you keep your HHB's in the freezer or refrig?

The only thing I can think of is the revaloution must of got in his eyes
no new food
he did have a couple nut amonds yesterday
and I keep the HHB in the freezer

I will keep giving him water

[TubeDriver]

Also, can you confirm that the Benadryl contained only benadryl and not anything else? Sometimes, Benadryl comes packaged with other active ingredients like pseudoephedrine. Double check the box.

[joyceb11]

the only active ingredent is diphenhydramine HCL 12.5 mg/5ml

[TubeDriver]

the only active ingredent is diphenhydramine HCL 12.5 mg/5ml

:thumbsup

[pappy1264]

After you gave him this dose of Revolution, did you see him immediately scratching at the area or on his body? I am just wondering if he could have gotten in somehow on his back foot and licked it, to cause him to vomit? I have heard of having a reaction to revolution and being crazy itchy, which generally benedryl (and bathing with dawn) is the best course of action. What is he doing now? Any more vomiting?

[joyceb11]

he just threw up again most water

[joyceb11]

he keeps on throwing up but he did drink alot of water

[CritterMom]

The vomiting from what I am reading online is usually associated with them INGESTING the revolution. Did it get in his mouth? Even if he licked it off his paws it could be an issue...

[joyceb11]

its not really liquid he is throwing up it kind os semi solid, do you think he still is have a reaction to the revolution?

[joyceb11]

The vomiting from what I am reading online is usually associated with them INGESTING the revolution. Did it get in his mouth? Even if he licked it off his paws it could be an issue...

I dont know he could of, what should I do to help him?

[joyceb11]

I think he is done throwing up, I just gave him some more water

[TubeDriver]

he just threw up again most water

If this is an allergic reaction, it could well be a response in his GI tract which would cause vomiting and/or diarrhea. Has he peed or pooped recently?

[joyceb11]

about an hour ago he did go poop

[lukaslolamaus]

Praying for sweet George and you :Love_Icon:grouphug

[TubeDriver]

Continue giving him water but do it slowly. Let his stomach process a little water before adding more. Perhaps wait 30 minutes and then give a little more.

[joyceb11]

ok I will do that, thank you

[Nancy in New York]

What time last night did you give the revolution?
Are you sure it was 2 drops?

[joyceb11]

What time last night did you give the revolution?
Are you sure it was 2 drops?

I gave him the revolution around 5:00 PM yesterday 2/5/2014
it is hard to tell how much came out but I tested it on a paper towel before I gave it to him so I am pretty sure it was only 2 drops

[iwonka]

Continue giving him water but do it slowly. Let his stomach process a little water before adding more. Perhaps wait 30 minutes and then give a little more.

I would say the same.
And no food at all.

[Nancy in New York]

I gave him the revolution around 5:00 PM yesterday 2/5/2014
it is hard to tell how much came out but I tested it on a paper towel before I gave it to him so I am pretty sure it was only 2 drops

Is this the one that says NOT to rub in?
There was something I used once and it said not
to rub into skin, which seemed strange to me as I remember
being concerned that it could/would get on something if I didn't rub it in. :dono

[joyceb11]

I would say the same.
And no food at all.

I really dont think he would eat right now any way

[joyceb11]

Is this the one that says NOT to rub in?
There was something I used once and it said not
to rub into skin, which seemed strange to me as I remember
being concerned that it could/would get on something if I didn't rub it in. :dono

this is the kind that just sits on the skin, no rubbing in

[SammysMom]

Is he still hunched up doing nothing? Just keep drop by drop hydration.

[pappy1264]

Do you have any infant gas drops? The vomiting can cause gas to build up, which will cause pain. I had asked if you saw him scratching at his back immediately or shortly after you administered it. He would be able to reach his back with his back feet. Can you get a pic of what you say he is vomiting?

[CritterMom]

I have some questions...

How much of the benadryl did you give him? It is the children's strength, right? What was the dose and I don't mean to be insulting but you DO know how to read a syringe? It isn't all that easy and many don't.

What has he eaten today?

[SammysMom]

These are the questions that I wanted to know. What is the strength of the Benadryl and what specifically (please list) in the last 24 hours.

I have some questions...

How much of the benadryl did you give him? It is the children's strength, right? What was the dose and I don't mean to be insulting but you DO know how to read a syringe? It isn't all that easy and many don't.

What has he eaten today?

[joyceb11]

Is he still hunched up doing nothing? Just keep drop by drop hydration.

yes he is still like that I thought I would let him be for now but he is sill drinking water

[joyceb11]

Do . have any infant gas drops? The vomiting can cause gas to build up, which will cause pain. I had asked if you saw him scratching at his back immediately or shortly after you administered it. He would be able to reach his back with his back feet. Can you get a pic of what you say he is vomiting?

I dont have any of the gas drops, should I send some one to the store?
and I thought the same thing about him getting it on his paws and then his eyes. picture is coming225302

[joyceb11]

I have some questions...

How much of the benadryl did you give him? It is the children's strength, right? What was the dose and I don't mean to be insulting but you DO know how to read a syringe? It isn't all that easy and many don't.

What has he eaten today?

I gave him 0.5 ml of the childrens benadryl, yes I know how to read a syring, he has eatem 2 HHB this morning, grape, and a little bit of avacodo, the avacodo was not ripe yet could that be it? and a couple of snap peas

he has only had one dose of the benadryl at 10:30 today

[SammysMom]

Is that what he vomited?

[Nancy in New York]

Just wanted to make the photo a little smaller.
http://nmognoni.smugmug.com/photos/i-2dwR5rz/0/M/i-2dwR5rz-M.jpg (http://nmognoni.smugmug.com/Other/TSB-resizing/28182094_d4nbWs#!i=3062565903&k=2dwR5rz&lb=1&s=A)

[joyceb11]

Is that what he vomiting?

yes a little hard to tell but I think it was the HHB
and he threw up again, after I give him water, I'll go a little slower with the water

[SammysMom]

No avocado skin, right? (I do NOT think you are a dope, just have to ask everything)

[joyceb11]

No avocado skin, right? (I do NOT think you are a dope, just have to ask everything)

no skins at all

[Nancy in New York]

Can you just double check the remaining HHB's just to see if they look alright to you.
They have no preservatives in them, so they can mold, even if kept in the refrig.

[joyceb11]

Can you just double check the remaining HHB's just to see if they look alright to you.
They have no preservatives in them, so they can mold, even if kept in the refrig.

They look fine to me, their doesnt seem to be any mold at all. I used to store them in the fridge and I did see mold on them but that was months ago

[Nancy in New York]

They look fine to me, their doesnt seem to be any mold at all. I used to store them in the fridge and I did see mold on them but that was months ago

Thank you for checking. Do you store them in the freezer now?
That's where I keep mine.:thumbsup

[SammysMom]

Any possibility of a stash that has molded?

[joyceb11]

Any possibility of a stash that has molded?

I will dig threw the bag again to double check

[joyceb11]

Thank you for checking. Do you store them in the freezer now?
That's where I keep mine.:thumbsup

yep in the freezer now

[SammysMom]

No, I mean in his cage or house. Something he hid for "later" that didn't make it.

[joyceb11]

No, I mean in his cage or house. Something he hid for "later" that didn't make it.

I clean his cage 2 times a day and I dont usually see any left overs and if I do I throw them out

[CritterMom]

How long has it been since the last time he vomited? And what is he doing right now?

[TubeDriver]

If we assume that this is an allergic reaction to the Revolution, then George is probably experiencing the worst symptoms 24-48 hours after exposure (peak plasma levels). But this drug will be present in his system for at least a week and possibly up to a month (just a guess based on Selamectin pharmacokinetics in dogs and cats). This means that he should probably be on benadryl for at least another couple days.

Again this is based on the assumption that this is an allergy reaction to Selamectin.

[joyceb11]

How long has it been since the last time he vomited? And what is he doing right now?

I want to say around 45 min. may be a little longer, he seems to be holding down his water better

[joyceb11]

If we assume that this is an allergic reaction to the Revolution, then George is probably experiencing the worst symptoms 24-48 hours after exposure (peak plasma levels). But this drug will be present in his system for at least a week and possibly up to a month (just a guess based on Selamectin pharmacokinetics in dogs and cats). This means that he should probably be on benadryl for at least another couple days.

Again this is based on the assumption that this is an allergy reaction to Selamectin.

I hope it does not get any worse then this, I am a wreck! could I have a little help on how often I should give him the benadryl, his only dose was given at 10:30 today

[SammysMom]

Are you able to see a vet or are you near any TSB member who is?

[CritterMom]

I am bothered that he did not vomit until after the benadryl. I think he should get periodic hydration fluid and maybe a heating pad and be monitored closely, and if the itching returns, give half of what you did earlier. I kind of want to see what he does without more meds....

[joyceb11]

Are you able to see a vet or are you near any TSB member who is?

I live in NH so I really do not have access to a vet, I am not sure if I live by any other TSB members

[joyceb11]

I am bothered that he did not vomit until after the benadryl. I think he should get periodic hydration fluid and maybe a heating pad and be monitored closely, and if the itching returns, give half of what you did earlier. I kind of want to see what he does without more meds....

I have been giving him water around every 20 min or so. I have been camped out by his cage all day, I did run out a couple of time but the rest of the day has been right beside him. I have seen him itching a couple of times but it has been on his blankie which is nice and soft, I'll wait for a while before I give any benadryl

[TubeDriver]

I am bothered that he did not vomit until after the benadryl. I think he should get periodic hydration fluid and maybe a heating pad and be monitored closely, and if the itching returns, give half of what you did earlier. I kind of want to see what he does without more meds....

Might be a timing issue (first symptoms were eye irritation followed by GI symptoms). Anything is possible, he could have reaction to both the Revolution and the Benadryl?

The Benadryl dose should be wearing off since it was administered at 10:30AM. Maybe watch and see how he is doing? If he starts to get worse (either more throwing up or eyes start to bother him again or breathing issues) then you could always redose with Benadryl?

It is a good sign that he is keeping down the water. Keep hydrating slowly, dont let him drink too fast.

[Nancy in New York]

We have a member near Amherst I believe.
Are you anywhere close by.
If you are you don't need to answer on open board, you
can pm me.

[lukaslolamaus]

I don't know if that is helpful, but my son had chemotherapy for leukemia and several allergic reactions with it, and nausea. The benadryl helped with the allergic reactions of course, but what I didn't know till then it can help with nausea (the Dr explained in details but can't remember it all). If it is the same for animals I don't know.
:grouphug

[joyceb11]

This only gets worse as the night goes on, George just threw up and there was some blood, I think a blood clot? but I know it has some blood in it here is a picture my phone takes really bad pictures

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[Nancy in New York]

Please keep what he threw up. Put it in a sandwich bag.
I am going to see if more help is on. I have to be off for about
a half hour.

[SammysMom]

I am here and looking for help and information. Hang on and put the vomit in a ziploc.

[joyceb11]

here is a better picture

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[SammysMom]

Does it look like a clot or is it a piece of something that has blood on it? What is his demeanor now?

[Duckman]

I'm just coming on in here. Can you give me a quick rundown on what you have given him and when? Starting with the Revolution. How much and what strength, as well as when.

[SammysMom]

2 drops on shoulders 5 pm yesterday. Benedryl today, dosed by Nancy.

[joyceb11]

Does it look like a clot or is it a piece of something that has blood on it? What is his demeanor now?

I thought it was a grape skin at first but I picked it up and it feels jelly like I dont know how to explain it but I know there is blood in it

[Duckman]

Has he eaten or drank anything since the Revolution?

[joyceb11]

2 drops on shoulders 5 pm yesterday. Benedryl today, dosed by Nancy.

thank you for telling him

[joyceb11]

Has he eaten or drank anything since the Revolution?

he ate some HHB earlier and he has been drinking blenty of water, he hasnt had any thing to eat for a while He has been throwing alot

[SammysMom]

Earlier post:
I gave him 0.5 ml of the childrens benadryl, yes I know how to read a syring, he has eatem 2 HHB this morning, grape, and a little bit of avacodo, the avacodo was not ripe yet could that be it? and a couple of snap peas

he has only had one dose of the benadryl at 10:30 today

[SammysMom]

Will he still take little bits of water? Vomiting causes dehydration.

[TubeDriver]

2 drops on shoulders 5 pm yesterday. Benedryl today, dosed by Nancy.

Approx 24 hours after the Revolution dosing, George had puffy, irritated eyes. The eye condition was clearly distressing and George was rubbing them aggressively.

Benadryl was started today at 10:30 and George started vomiting this afternoon.

Up to this point, I was convinced this was an allergic reaction to the Revolution. Is it at all possible that what he just threw up is grape skin and juice?

[Duckman]

Do you have any Ensure or Fox Valley Formula? I suspect the blood and vomiting is because his stomach is irritated and possibly working on ulcerating. Either should coat and settle the stomach a bit.

EDIT - I still suspect this to be an allergic reaction. Irritated stomachs aren't uncommon with high antibody counts.

[joyceb11]

I had to get him up a while ago and try to clean his eyes because they were starting to get closed up by the dried blood, that is when he threw up the blood, he really does not look good at all

[joyceb11]

Do you have any Ensure or Fox Valley Formula? I suspect the blood and vomiting is because his stomach is irritated and possibly working on ulcerating. Either should coat and settle the stomach a bit.

No I do not have ether one but I can run to the store if you think he needs it

[joyceb11]

Approx 24 hours after the Revolution dosing, George had puffy, irritated eyes. The eye condition was clearly distressing and George was rubbing them aggressively.

Benadryl was started today at 10:30 and George started vomiting this afternoon.

Up to this point, I was convinced this was an allergic reaction to the Revolution. Is it at all possible that what he just threw up is grape skin and juice?

I thought it was grape skin also but the texture was not right

[Duckman]

Have you fed him grapes in the last 12-24 hours?

[joyceb11]

[QUOTE=Duckman;977676]Do you have any Ensure

should I go to the store and get some?

[joyceb11]

Have you fed him grapes in the last 12-24 hours?

yes this morning he had one

[Duckman]

Soon, but not yet. Lets get all the details and history first.

[CritterMom]

Duckman, everything is answered in the thread.

He had a grape, right? If it was this morning or earlier it would be partially digested. The blood could be irritation in the throat and esophagus from vomiting - it doesn't do those tender tissues any good for sure. I know it is rather nasty, but look closely at it - pick through it with a toothpick or something. Grape skins and grape pits - even the seedless ones have that little string in the middle - can cause issues.

The hydration: you are trying to replace what he is losing through vomiting, and provide what he would normally drink. There isn't any need to "pound fluids" and small amounts at a time are the answer. You may want to mix up some hydration fluid instead of plain water to use for the next few hours:

1 teaspoon salt
3 Tablespoons sugar
1 quart water

The salt will replace the electrolytes lost in the vomiting, the sugar helps address blood sugar issues from being empty of food - plus it has kind of a nice taste. This is only for the next half dozen or so drinks - don't want to give too much salt but a little will help.

[Duckman]

Ok, that is better news. The stomach acids will make it almost like jelly, after this amount of time, so that is more than likely what that is. There does appear to be some blood as well, could this be some juice that you gave him?

[SammysMom]

Where are you and is there any chance of a vet?

[joyceb11]

Where are you and is there any chance of a vet?

I live in NH and Nancy is looking into someone that might help, and no I do not have a vet that I can trust

I am going to make hydration fluid now

[stepnstone]

Do you have any Ensure or Fox Valley Formula? I suspect the blood and vomiting is because his stomach is irritated and possibly working on ulcerating. Either should coat and settle the stomach a bit.
EDIT - I still suspect this to be an allergic reaction. Irritated stomachs aren't uncommon with high antibody counts.

Also crossed my mind but would it not be better to give a probotic even yogurt to coat
the stomach and help balance or maybe a mineral oil to coat and help get whatever the
irritation is moving out the other end?

[SammysMom]

You have wonderful knowledgeable members helping you. Breath and just take one minute at a time. Many prayers being said...:grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

[Nancy in New York]

Is there blood in George's eyes?



I had to get him up a while ago and try to clean his eyes because they were starting to get closed up by the dried blood, that is when he threw up the blood, he really does not look good at all

[joyceb11]

Is there blood in George's eyes?

yes he was scratching so much before the benadryl that he made him self bleed, and I am trying to get the dried blood off, but his eyes are still bleeding a little bit

[Duckman]

Also crossed my mind but would it not be better to give a probotic even yogurt to coat
the stomach and help balance or maybe a mineral oil to coat and help get whatever the
irritation is moving out the other end?

Yes, the probiotic would be just as good. But if he is on the hydration formula, that comes first, and then the stomach soother. A small amount of flaxseed oil would work too, but again, after the hydrating formula. I think Crittermom is on the right track and I won't recommend anything until after her.

[joyceb11]

Yes, the probiotic would be just as good. But if he is on the hydration formula, that comes first, and then the stomach soother. A small amount of flaxseed oil would work too, but again, after the hydrating formula. I think Crittermom is on the right track and I won't recommend anything until after her.


I actually have some flax seed oil

[Duckman]

Can you start him on the hydrating fluid, and in a couple hours, give him a small amount of flaxseed oil? If we give him both, it will only irritate his stomach more. He needs the hydration first, in little amounts, with the vomiting. Small amounts every 10-15 minutes will be much better than a large amount and have him vomit that as well.

[joyceb11]

Can you start him on the hydrating fluid, and in a couple hours, give him a small amount of flaxseed oil? If we give him both, it will only irritate his stomach more. He needs the hydration first, in little amounts, with the vomiting. Small amounts every 10-15 minutes will be much better than a large amount and have him vomit that as well.

I just made a batch of the hydrating fluid and gave him some about 10 min ago. I'll keep you post on how he is doing

[CritterMom]

Try to keep him nice and warm - if you have a heating pad, slip it under his bed. And quiet - it would be great if he could sleep a little and totally relax. If you can keep him right there with you though - they need their mamas when they are sick and it does them good.

[SammysMom]

You are doing great. Now it sounds like hydration, warmth and mama is the way to go. :grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

[lukaslolamaus]

Praying for sweet George and his Mommy:Love_Icon:grouphug

[SammysMom]

Any news on George? Praying for good news in the morning...:grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

[HappyLittleSquirrely]

Praying. Paying close attention to this thread. :grouphug

[pappy1264]

Any updates? Sorry I was gone last night, got a sad call from a friend.

[joyceb11]

Well George and I had along rough night last night, he scared the poop out of me. He vomited at 9:00, 11:00,2:00, and 6:00 this morning mostly mucus mixed with a little blood. I hydrated him every hour and he even got up on his own to get some water, and he got up on his own this morning to get some water he cant seem to hold much down. I gave him about 1/2 teaspoon of vanilla yogurt this morning and he gobbled it right up. He did pee a lot this morning and poop a small amount. I had to clean is eyes when he got up because they were crusted closed. He is resting right now which he needs.

I do have a question should I give him any thing to eat or just keep on giving him the hydrating fluid, it was mentioned last night about maybe giving him some flax seed oil.
does any one have any thoughts on that

[Baxied]

:grouphug :grouphug George :grouphug:grouphug

[SammysMom]

Did he keep down the yogurt? I am so glad that he is drinking water. I am the flax seed oil suggester, but lets see what others say first.

[TubeDriver]

Well George and I had along rough night last night, he scared the poop out of me. He vomited at 9:00, 11:00,2:00, and 6:00 this morning mostly mucus mixed with a little blood. I hydrated him every hour and he even got up on his own to get some water, and he got up on his own this morning to get some water he cant seem to hold much down. I gave him about 1/2 teaspoon of vanilla yogurt this morning and he gobbled it right up. He did pee a lot this morning and poop a small amount. I had to clean is eyes when he got up because they were crusted closed. He is resting right now which he needs.

I do have a question should I give him any thing to eat or just keep on giving him the hydrating fluid, it was mentioned last night about maybe giving him some flax seed oil.
does any one have any thoughts on that

I think I would just stick with water for now this morning, perhaps just a tiny bit of yogurt. If he does not vomit, then slowly add a little more yogurt.

If this is being caused by an allergic reaction, he is probably just getting through the worst of it.

[joyceb11]

I am pretty sure he kept the yogurt down I keep going in to check on him and he hasn't thrown that up, the only good thing when he throws up he gets out of his bed so I can hear him

[joyceb11]

Just to let everyone know I have not given George any more of the benadryl, he has only had that one dose yesterday at 10:30, I really do not want to give him any more because of all the throwing up.

[pappy1264]

Maybe try a tiny bit of Ensure? He probably is very hungry and sometimes on an empty stomach water can make naseau worse. Maybe try offering 'wet' foods (a little watermelon or such). Is he scratching anymore (not the normal once in a while scratch, but like he is really itchy?) I would not give anymore benedryl. Again I would pick up some infant gas drops, as him not eating and all the vomitting will cause gas to build. Just give him a couple of drops every few hours.

[TubeDriver]

Just to let everyone know I have not given George any more of the benadryl, he has only had that one dose yesterday at 10:30, I really do not want to give him any more because of all the throwing up.

You should be getting (or already received) a PM with some treatment options, I think you should consider this carefully. George is very ill and unfortunately this reaction will probably continue for some time since the active ingredient in revolution is now being slowly released from his sweat/oil glands.

In the meantime, continue to slowly hydrate him. Slow and steady, dont let him drink too much too fast.

[sdreamcatcher]

I got up early to feed the wilds and checked in just to see how George is doing. I hope he is through the worst of it. I think if he can keep the yogurt down then the ensure may be the best way to go? Get better soon, George!! My thoughts and prayers are with you today :grouphug:grouphug:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[jbtartell]

ok Joyce I wanted to say I believe it is time for a vet visit.. I am sure everyone agrees.. he has been sick for to long and we don't want him to get worse. at vets they can give him a good dose of hydration and nausea meds and maybe something to counteract the reaction...

[Nancy in New York]

ok Joyce I wanted to say I believe it is time for a vet visit.. I am sure everyone agrees.. he has been sick for to long and we don't want him to get worse. at vets they can give him a good dose of hydration and nausea meds and maybe something to counteract the reaction...

Yup, this is exactly what was discussed in the triage area. :thumbsup
She is on her way.

[jbtartell]

I am sooooo glad I hope he will be ok.. he has been soo sick for way too long. I thought he would be better by this morning... poor babby:Love_Icon

[Nancy in New York]

I just heard from our wonderful member who was a Godsend to George and to us, along with her vet.
I will let Joyce fill you in, but George is fine.
Thank you to everyone involved in this. What a relief to have such dedicated
people involved and helping.

This is from our fantastic member:


"George climbed on the doctor's back, was friendly, no vomiting since early AM. The doctor gave him SQ fluids, a steroid injection and treated his eyes."

[TubeDriver]

Good news indeed! The steroid should help reduce inflammation and hopefully his plasma levels of Selamection will start to drop. To be honest, I am not sure if the body can just produce an endless amount of IgE antibodies so maybe the allergic reaction would jdust drop off over time anyway?

[lukaslolamaus]

So happpy George is OK:Love_Icon

You guys are awesome

So glad I found TSB
:grouphug

[SammysMom]

Fantastic member indeed!!! Thank-you so much to this member and her vet and thank-you to Nancy for finding this member.
Terrific job Joyce for working so hard and being willing to trust the person who offered vet help. That is not easily given and you got wonderful help because of it. :grouphug:Love_IconGeorge:Love_Icon:grouphug

[joyceb11]

First off I don't even know how to thank every single one of you!


George is going to be fine, George was given a steroid shot, fluids, and ointment for his eyes. I did not let George leave my sight at the vets (I think I am a little over protective) I went out back with them and watched every thing that was done. And George was a little feisty which I took as a good sign. The vet said he could start to small amounts of food and he was staving, I gave him 3 cheerios a little more yogurt and he stole a nut off the counter before I got it, so I let him have it. He is resting right now I even got some snuggles before he went in his house for a nap. I think he will be back to normal in a couple of days so I have a lot of spoiling to do!

I will keep every one updated

[HappyLittleSquirrely]

:):grin

[SammysMom]

You did a wonderful job! I am so glad George is okay. Thank-you for being so diligent with your care of this boy!!!

[CritterMom]

Phew! I will be very honest with you - I was afraid to check the board when I woke up this morning - and I do that before coffee! This is wonderful! And it is also one for the record books - this is the FIRST bad reaction to Revolution I recall ever seeing on the board, and we use it extensively.

[TubeDriver]

Phew! I will be very honest with you - I was afraid to check the board when I woke up this morning - and I do that before coffee! This is wonderful! And it is also one for the record books - this is the FIRST bad reaction to Revolution I recall ever seeing on the board, and we use it extensively.


Unfortunately, someone at some point is going to be allergic to just about anything. It was poor George who was patient zero for Revolution allergy. So glad he is feeling better! :):alright.gif

[Nancy in New York]

So thrilled that this worked out so wonderfully.
I love this board and it's members. We sure can
pull off miracles sometimes when everything lines up
perfectly! :grouphug

[joyceb11]

You really need a "like" button!!!!

[SammysMom]

Joyce, I just can't tell you how happy I am that George is better. You did such a great job sticking to the whole process of getting him through this. That is one lucky boy to have a mama like you!:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Duckman]

I am so glad George is doing much better! Still have a little more work to do before he is 100%, but the worst is over!

As a substitute to Revolution, I give my babies a bath every week in Dawn. I don't know how George will do getting a bath, but if you do it right (large pan instead of the scary tub or super scary kitchen sink), you might be able to pull it off with him, and they look so fluffy right after the bath! That is my favorite snuggely time!

:grouphug George :grouphug

[SammysMom]

What was the reason for the repeat of the Revolution? Is he having an issue or was it just preventive?

[California Squirrel Lover]

So happy to hear George is doing well! :Love_Icon:Love_Icon :thumbsup

[joyceb11]

What was the reason for the repeat of the Revolution? Is he having an issue or was it just preventive?

I just think it was being overly protective, lesson learned, maybe I do need to be especially when it comes to chemicals

[Duckman]

I just think it was being overly protective, lesson learned, maybe I do not need to be especially when it comes to chemicals


With squirrels, it is always better to be overly cautious, than overly protective. Especially when chemicals are concerned. Unless you see a reason to introduce chemicals into their lives, I always side with caution. Our bath time is actually a special time that my kids just love now and the only flea I have ever seen either have is when I first rescued Rex. We have quite a few cats and a dog and no fleas have ever made it to either Rex or Winkers (of course, if they did, they wouldn't last long because of the weekly bath!).

[joyceb11]

quick update on George, he has been eating small amounts of watermelon and yogurt with added hydration, he has been peeing but I haven't seen any poop yet. But the best part he is not throwing up any more! he hasn't been real active but I knew he wouldn't be yet, we are both resting easy tonight and I am one happy squirrel mommy right now!:grin3

[SammysMom]

I was not being critical Joyce. I was just curious whether he had an ongoing skin issue. You are doing a great job!:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[joyceb11]

I was not being critical Joyce. I was just curious whether he had an ongoing skin issue. You are doing a great job!:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

Oh I know you were not being critical, and yes he has had issues with hair loss, I believe mites. I want to find a non chemical solution to get ride of the mites if he has another issue in the future

[Nancy in New York]

quick update on George, he has been eating small amounts of watermelon and yogurt with added hydration, he has been peeing but I haven't seen any poop yet. But the best part he is not throwing up any more! he hasn't been real active but I knew he wouldn't be yet, we are both resting easy tonight and I am one happy squirrel mommy right now!:grin3

Most likely you won't see many poops since he hasn't eaten much.
WOW I am so thrilled this turned out like this.
OMG you sure had us scared here. Looks like George is on the road
to recovery.
A HUGE shout out to our member mcfccc, who really went above and beyond! :bowdown

[joyceb11]

A HUGE shout out to our member mcfccc, who really went above and beyond! :bowdown[/B][/I][/FONT][/QUOTE]

You so right on this one I am so grateful for her help

[joyceb11]

Quick update, George had a great night last night! I got up with him a couple of times and made sure he was well hydrated and small amounts of food. I haven't started him on solids besides the cheerios and only a couple of them. He stayed in his bed and poked his head out and that is how he ate last night. this morning was different he ate a little in his bed then he came out went pee and stayed out of his bed for about 10 min. sat in the window and ate a little more. I was so happy he was up moving around a little. I know it will take a little more time before he is back to his old self, but I am so happy he is on his way.

[Milo's Mom]

Excellent update!!! :alright.gif:alright.gif

So happy for both of you.

[Nancy in New York]

Quick update, George had a great night last night! I got up with him a couple of times and made sure he was well hydrated and small amounts of food. I haven't started him on solids besides the cheerios and only a couple of them. He stayed in his bed and poked his head out and that is how he ate last night. this morning was different he ate a little in his bed then he came out went pee and stayed out of his bed for about 10 min. sat in the window and ate a little more. I was so happy he was up moving around a little. I know it will take a little more time before he is back to his old self, but I am so happy he is on his way.

Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!:wahoo

[jbtartell]

yayyyyy:grouphug

[Duckman]

:thumbsup3:highfive:wiggle:nurse

[pappy1264]

What a wonderful update!!:grin2:grouphug:Love_Icon

[TubeDriver]

:thumbsup Give the little fuzzer a hug from me!

[lukaslolamaus]

:woot:thumbsup
Wonderful news
:Love_Icon hugs for George and mom:grouphug

[Nancy in New York]

Hey, we need updates over here too! :tap:grin2

[joyceb11]

Sorry! :grin2
George is doing great! He was running around and playing last night, and he looks so good you wouldn't believe how happy his mommy is now!!!!! He is almost back to normal still a little tired at times but he lets me know and he goes to bed. His appetite is back and has been eating really well. So very thankful for TSB and all your help :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou

[Nancy in New York]

Sorry! :grin2
George is doing great! He was running around and playing last night, and he looks so good you wouldn't believe how happy his mommy is now!!!!! He is almost back to normal still a little tired at times but he lets me know and he goes to bed. His appetite is back and has been eating really well. So very thankful for TSB and all your help :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou

Fantastic update, thanks for sharing how well little George is doing! :grouphug

[TubeDriver]

:alright.gif:) Give little George a pet on the head from me!