Need Help/Advice for our Sick Star Baby

[Stars Daddy]

We have a squirrel that would never release and she is 3 years old. Her name is Star Baby. She woke up yesterday sick and had puss/milky discharge coming out of her vaginal area. Took her to the vet today and was told she had an infection in her female organs. He give us antibiotics and said she has a slight chance of living. She is still drinking water and the only thing she will eat is a few nuts. You can tell she is weak and just wants to sleep. If we get her out of her bed she will not stay out for more than a few minutes. She is not urinating at all, she looks like she is trying to pee but very little to nothing comes out. The vet said from his experience with females they do not come through surgery well. He said he could take out the uterus but about 1/2 die on the operating table, and if they make it through most of them has hormonal problems and it kills them in a few days. He said lets see if the antibiotics helps at all and we should be able to tell in a day or two. But he really did not give her much of a chance. If anyone knows anything about this any advice would be greatly appreciated. She seems to have the will to live but you can tell she just feels terrible. Should we get her out of bed and try to keep her active and make sure she is drinking. Is it ok to give her the nuts if that's all she will eat. She normally eats veggies and monkey biscuits, and only gets nuts as treats. Or should we just let her sleep and only come out when she want too. Should we let him operate or just pray the antibiotics work. We are really just lost on what will be best for our little Star Baby. Any and all help would be appreciated.

[CritterMom]

What antibiotic did he prescribe?

I would set her up with a heating pad under her sleeping area, and I would also start syringe feeding her warmed sugar water ( 1 teaspoon sugar to a cup of water) like when she was a baby. She desperately needs to be very well hydrated. It can make a huge difference in their condition.

Surgery on an ill animal is always a risk...

[stepnstone]

Sorry to hear about your baby...
What ab did he prescribe?

[CritterMom]

Hey - one of the best squirrel vets around is in Raleigh - how far are you?

[Stars Daddy]

What antibiotic did he prescribe?

I would set her up with a heating pad under her sleeping area, and I would also start syringe feeding her warmed sugar water ( 1 teaspoon sugar to a cup of water) like when she was a baby. She desperately needs to be very well hydrated. It can make a huge difference in their condition.

Surgery on an ill animal is always a risk...

baytril is the AB

[Stars Daddy]

Hey - one of the best squirrel vets around is in Raleigh - how far are you?

We are one hour away who is the vet?

[Stars Daddy]

baytril is the AB

she just now got up on her own and drink a good bit of water

[SammysMom]

Crittermom has got it right for sure. Heating pad may make her feel much better. Think about how good it feels to get into a nice warm bed when you don't feel well. Water is probably the most important thing you can give her. Especially if she is trying to pee with no results. Firmly but gently syringe drop by drop into her mouth if that is what it takes.

[Nancy in New York]

We are one hour away who is the vet?

I will pm you the info. :thumbsup

[CritterMom]

http://avianandexotic.com/

Dr. Dan is THE MAN - we have had members travel from many states away to see him. Baytril is a good, strong antibiotic, so that is good.

I would positively, absolutely speak to this place and consult him. There are only a handful of vets in the country that can actually be called "specialists" and one lives an hour from you.:thumbsup

[farrelli]

If she's trying to pee, you might want to feel her abdomen and make sure her bladder isn't swollen. If it is hard and round, you might have to try to express her, though experts may have to weigh in on that if she is so swollen. You don't want her bladder rupturing.

[Stars Daddy]

http://avianandexotic.com/

Dr. Dan is THE MAN - we have had members travel from many states away to see him. Baytril is a good, strong antibiotic, so that is good.

I would positively, absolutely speak to this place and consult him. There are only a handful of vets in the country that can actually be called "specialists" and one lives an hour from you.:thumbsup

My wife is on it. We will be going to see him tomorrow if he will see us. I do not know how we could handle losing Star Baby she is another child to us. A lot of tears already shed today. I can say star seems to be feeling a little better tonight. Her getting up on her own and drinking a few minutes ago made me feel like she is fighting to survive

[SammysMom]

That is a very big step! The Baytril is a kick-butt antibiotic...:thumbsup

[CritterMom]

Well, keep her nice and warm and push the fluids - really, you would not believe how easy it is for them to get dehydrated and how dramatically it affects them.

They may want to keep her on antibiotics for a while and do the surgery when she is stronger. I would imagine with a pyometra like this that they are going to want to take the uterus out so it does not happen again. I have never heard ANYTHING about hormonal imbalance and death related to this. The place to have a procedure like that is at a place that specializes and has the experience like this. :thumbsup

Please keep us in the loop.

[TubeDriver]

Just sending healing thoughts your way for Star Baby! :grouphug

There has been some excellent advice given in this thread.:thumbsup

[Stars Daddy]

Thank you all for the advice. We will keep you posted. Been trying to get her a heating pad set up. One other thing she is doing that she never has before. We have a mineral block in her cage and she has never touched this thing until today. She has been licking this block several time today. It must have something she feels like she needs.

[Nancy in New York]

Does anyone know if the vet that was recommended will only see squirrels
brought to him by a licensed rehabber?

[Stars Daddy]

Just sending healing thoughts your way for Star Baby! :grouphug

There has been some excellent advice given in this thread.:thumbsup

Thank You

[starfairy]

Does anyone know if the vet that was recommended will only see squirrels
brought to him by a licensed rehabber?

Good question.:thumbsup

[SammysMom]

I emailed Lilidukes to ask her if she knows. Will let you know if I hear back...:thumbsup

[keetz1205]

Dr. Dan will see pet squirrels as well. You don't have to be a licensed rehabber.

[SammysMom]

Thank-you Heather!

[Stars Daddy]

Dr. Dan will see pet squirrels as well. You don't have to be a licensed rehabber.

Thank You

[Skul]

I'll bet Satrs Daddy, is working under the care of a rehabber, if you get my drift. :)

[Stars Daddy]

:thumbsup
I'll bet Satrs Daddy, is working under the care of a rehabber, if you get my drift. :)

[island rehabber]

Beautiful work by all of you here, getting help for poor Star Baby. She's got the best AB in her for UTI, and with the info her parents have now, thanks to you all, I'm thinking she will be fine.

[BigNibbler]

Isn't there is a range of dosing for Baytril? May want to discuss what Doc prescribed. In a high mortality situation anyway, a stronger dose might be of benefit.

[lilidukes]

Dr Dan will see you and you are safe.

He meet me at 2am once because he was going out
of town the next morning.

Healing wishes for Star Baby :grouphug

[Stars Daddy]

Morning report, Star Baby acts like she feels better this morning. She woke up come out on her own. She eat one peanut, about a 1/2 teaspoon of yogurt and drink water. The best news yet she pee pee' s a lot. That is something the vet told us yesterday that we had to hope for, because she had not been peeing. She was even sassy to one of the kids when they got close to her cage. That is something she does, being my wife and I are the only one allowed in her house for some reason. She has been up for about 30 min. so far and yesterday she would only stay out of her nest maybe 5 min. at a time. I believe the AB is helping already.

[TubeDriver]

Morning report, Star Baby acts like she feels better this morning. She woke up come out on her own. She eat one peanut, about a 1/2 teaspoon of yogurt and drink water. The best news yet she pee pee' s a lot. That is something the vet told us yesterday that we had to hope for, because she had not been peeing. She was even sassy to one of the kids when they got close to her cage. That is something she does, being my wife and I are the only one allowed in her house for some reason. She has been up for about 30 min. so far and yesterday she would only stay out of her nest maybe 5 min. at a time. I believe the AB is helping already.

:thumbsup

[farrelli]

Have you called the vet yet and made an appointment today?

[Stars Daddy]

Have you called the vet yet and made an appointment today?

I called and asked to talk to Dr. Dan, the lady would only give me his email and said he would respond to his emails. So I have emailed him and explained my case. I have yet to hear back from him, but feel confident I will soon.

[Stars Daddy]

I just got an Appointment with DR. Dan for tomorrow morning.

[island rehabber]

:thumbsup you're going to one of the best there is when it comes to squirrels. :thumbsup

[stepnstone]

I just got an Appointment with DR. Dan for tomorrow morning.

:wottHappy Happy Happy :grin2

[PennyCash]

:grouphug:grouphug:grouphug:grouphug:grouphug

[Charley Chuckles]

I am so happy she is doing better and that you will be going to Dr. Dan tomorrow :thumbsup Sending many prayers to her :grouphug

[Stars Daddy]

We would like to thank everyone for leading us in the right direction to making our Star Baby better. I believe she is a little better today, but still not herself. Sleeping a lot, but has drink water and is eating some yogurt. I have great hope Dr. Dan can fix her from all the praise he has got from everyone in here. We are blessed to have this quality of a Dr. this close. Again a Huge thanks from Star Baby, and her family.

[California Squirrel Lover]

sending healing prayers. so glad she has an appt, I hope it goes great! :grouphug

[SammysMom]

That is wonderful news! Dr. Dan gets rave reviews on TSB quite often and we are tough customers when it comes to the care of our squirrels!:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Stars Daddy]

More good news, Star Baby woke up about an hour ago and her vaginal area looks much better. Did not see the milky substance anymore either. She came out of her cage and played around in her room for while then got a acorn and found a place to hide it, that is always a 10 minute adventure. She drink plenty of water and eat more yogurt. Also my wife let her have a small banana chip, which she loves but don't get very often. She still will not eat her monkey biscuit or veggies. Seems to only want the junk food as we call it. Should we keep letting her have the nuts and banana chips and yogurt if that is all she will eat right now or quit letting her have that to see if she will start eating the veggies and Monkey biscuit if that's all we offer.

[CritterMom]

More good news, Star Baby woke up about an hour ago and her vaginal area looks much better. Did not see the milky substance anymore either. She came out of her cage and played around in her room for while then got a acorn and found a place to hide it, that is always a 10 minute adventure. She drink plenty of water and eat more yogurt. Also my wife let her have a small banana chip, which she loves but don't get very often. She still will not eat her monkey biscuit or veggies. Seems to only want the junk food as we call it. Should we keep letting her have the nuts and banana chips and yogurt if that is all she will eat right now or quit letting her have that to see if she will start eating the veggies and Monkey biscuit if that's all we offer.

Please do Star Baby a HUGE favor: Please forget about the monkey biscuits and get her some of this: http://www.henryspets.com/picky-blocks-adult-formula/

Pretty much all of us feed these. They were researched and are made by a member here who decided to throw herself into squirrel nutrition. In addition to having exactly everything they need and nothing they don't, they TASTE GOOD.

The Zupreem Primate (the monkey biscuits) is an adequate food to feed after weaning and before release, but only because it has enough calcium to prevent MBD. Long term, it is made for primates, and they have different needs than squirrels, and have quite a bit more protein than they need. The "HHB's" (Henry's Healthy Bites) are fed at the rate of 2-3 per day with healthy veggies and limited fruit and treats.

I take out a week's worth and freeze them - they are fresh baked without preservatives so you need to handle accordingly. Star Baby deserves the best, and these are that!

[Duckman]

Please do Star Baby a HUGE favor: Please forget about the monkey biscuits and get her some of this: http://www.henryspets.com/picky-blocks-adult-formula/

Pretty much all of us feed these. They were researched and are made by a member here who decided to throw herself into squirrel nutrition. In addition to having exactly everything they need and nothing they don't, they TASTE GOOD.

The Zupreem Primate (the monkey biscuits) is an adequate food to feed after weaning and before release, but only because it has enough calcium to prevent MBD. Long term, it is made for primates, and they have different needs than squirrels, and have quite a bit more protein than they need. The "HHB's" (Henry's Healthy Bites) are fed at the rate of 2-3 per day with healthy veggies and limited fruit and treats.

I take out a week's worth and freeze them - they are fresh baked without preservatives so you need to handle accordingly. Star Baby deserves the best, and these are that!

:goodpost:goodpost

Long term, you will be taking years off her lifespan by staying with the Monkey Biscuits. Even Rodent Block (as unpalatable as it looks) is tons better than the monkey block for long term maintenance. Making the switch to the HHB's (or Rodent block, if you have to) is the hard part and should be the only thing given to them to eat until they understand they HAVE to eat it, than you can introduce snacks (like nuts and healthy veggies) after they finish their block! Tough love is the only way your are going to get all the years with your girl that you can!

[Ziggyspal]

Ziggy actually prefers HHB's to veggies or even fruit. Once they get in the habit, squirrels love them.

[Stars Daddy]

Please do Star Baby a HUGE favor: Please forget about the monkey biscuits and get her some of this: http://www.henryspets.com/picky-blocks-adult-formula/

Pretty much all of us feed these. They were researched and are made by a member here who decided to throw herself into squirrel nutrition. In addition to having exactly everything they need and nothing they don't, they TASTE GOOD.

The Zupreem Primate (the monkey biscuits) is an adequate food to feed after weaning and before release, but only because it has enough calcium to prevent MBD. Long term, it is made for primates, and they have different needs than squirrels, and have quite a bit more protein than they need. The "HHB's" (Henry's Healthy Bites) are fed at the rate of 2-3 per day with healthy veggies and limited fruit and treats.

I take out a week's worth and freeze them - they are fresh baked without preservatives so you need to handle accordingly. Star Baby deserves the best, and these are that!

Just ordered a bag. I will have to admit she is not on the best diet. She is pretty fat like me. She loves sweets and I try not to let her get them but sometimes she will take something right out of your hand a run with it. You cannot eat ice cream around her, she will attack it. The same goes for chocolate. So we just try our best to keep stuff like that away. She will even get into my glass of sweet tea if I don't watch her. She is a sugar junky.

[CritterMom]

You will need to let us help you break that. If she has to eventually lose her uterus she will be even more prone to being heavy and it isn't good...The blocks are a good start!

[Nancy in New York]

Can you post a photo of your little girl, I'm anxious to see her. :tilt
:eek Did you just call your girl fat? :poke:poke:poke:poke

[Stars Daddy]

You will need to let us help you break that. If she has to eventually lose her uterus she will be even more prone to being heavy and it isn't good...The blocks are a good start!

Yes I agree we need some help. I have been reading in here and have already seen some things we have done wrong for her. The #1 thing we have done wrong more than any is we usually let her have 4 to 5 nuts a day, even though she usually hides at least 2 of them. She does love veggies and eats them very well. Not crazy about fruit, will eat a little but not very often. We have been giving her Exotic Nutrition Monkey Biscuits and not the zupreme. What my wife read these was for squirrels and rodents. I have seen here go two days without touching them though and then you may see her eat on them several times a day. I hope she will eat these new blocks it sounds like she needs a different diet.

[Stars Daddy]

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Star on her log
Most of our pictures I have of her on my computer she was a lot younger. This one is probably the most rescent.

[Duckman]

Yes I agree we need some help. I have been reading in here and have already seen some things we have done wrong for her. The #1 thing we have done wrong more than any is we usually let her have 4 to 5 nuts a day, even though she usually hides at least 2 of them. She does love veggies and eats them very well. Not crazy about fruit, will eat a little but not very often. We have been giving her Exotic Nutrition Monkey Biscuits and not the zupreme. What my wife read these was for squirrels and rodents. I have seen here go two days without touching them though and then you may see her eat on them several times a day. I hope she will eat these new blocks it sounds like she needs a different diet.

Believe it or not, getting the parents to agree that the diet is wrong is the hardest step. Getting her to EAT the blocks is the second hardest step, but is easy to rectify. They will not starve themselves for long and will eventually eat the block. Then you can reintroduce the goodies.

Glad to have you on the board now and hopefully you will post a thread about your little Star in The Nursery (with pictures, of course!). We all keep track of the little ones and I am amazed at how "on the edge of my seat" I am when someone posts a good update on their little ones. The Squirrel Board really is more a family than just a bunch of strangers on a forum. We all live and breath squirrels, whether our own or one of the members! :Welcome

Edit - I just saw her picture and she is just gorgeous! She does have a "healthy" weight, but she is not fat! My Rex also has the "healthy" weight. Remember though, that it is winter time and they do pack it on for the winter. I also understand about sweets. Rex loves sweet tarts and will raid my stash (he has even figured out how to open the drawer by himself to raid them!) whenever he smells them in the drawer!

[stepnstone]

I'm pretty anxious to hear what Dr. Dan's prognosis is once he's
had the opportunity to thoroughly examine Star, I'm betting it's not
going to be as negative as you've gotten from the other vet. :grouphug

[Stars Daddy]

I'm pretty anxious to hear what Dr. Dan's prognosis is once he's
had the opportunity to thoroughly examine Star, I'm betting it's not
going to be as negative as you've gotten from the other vet. :grouphug

I agree, she seems so much better tonight. She is not just sleeping. She has been awake for over 2 hours. She is staying in her cage but is not sleeping. She is laying in her hammock and on top of her nest at the top of the cage . She just seems to feel much better.

[California Squirrel Lover]

She's a beautiful girl! :Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon :grin3

[Nancy in New York]

221280

Star on her log
Most of our pictures I have of her on my computer she was a lot younger. This one is probably the most rescent.

Oh she is BEAUTIFUL...... love that white tummy too! :Love_Icon
WOW that sure is some "log" you have for her there! :grin2

[SammysMom]

Terrific update! So glad that you are here and so willing to learn the right way to do things. Star will be much better off because of that willingness! Welcome to the TSB family!:grouphug

[farrelli]

If she's not eating, have you Tried vanilla or Pecan Ensure? We recommend it for squirrels who are resisting food because it's concentrated nutrition. THe fact that she likes sugar will help her like it more. Some don;t though. For those, we recommend NutraCal.

[Stars Daddy]

Oh she is BEAUTIFUL...... love that white tummy too! :Love_Icon
WOW that sure is some "log" you have for her there! :grin2
Yes star is very spoiled with a 8 foot log, she has a 6 foot real tree made from a large oak limb a man from Pa. makes as cat trees, she has 2 large cat towers, and all kinds of toys. Here is a funny story. We have bought her many small stuffed animals she will sleep with certain ones and then tear them up. But she has one tiny bear that my grand daughter give her when she was 1 week old. This one she always sleeps with and has never offered to tear it up. You take it out of her nest to wash it and she has a fit. soon as you bring it back she will grab it and to the nest it goes.

[Stars Daddy]

If she's not eating, have you Tried vanilla or Pecan Ensure? We recommend it for squirrels who are resisting food because it's concentrated nutrition. THe fact that she likes sugar will help her like it more. Some don;t though. For those, we recommend NutraCal.
actually tonight she did eat a couple pieces of cauliflower, and a little bit of the block. she also had about 1/2 teaspoon of yogurt and 1 nut. she is drinking a lot of water. She has just now went to bed after being up for 2.5 hours.

[Nancy in New York]

Yes star is very spoiled with a 8 foot log, she has a 6 foot real tree made from a large oak limb a man from Pa. makes as cat trees, she has 2 large cat towers, and all kinds of toys. Here is a funny story. We have bought her many small stuffed animals she will sleep with certain ones and then tear them up. But she has one tiny bear that my grand daughter give her when she was 1 week old. This one she always sleeps with and has never offered to tear it up. You take it out of her nest to wash it and she has a fit. soon as you bring it back she will grab it and to the nest it goes.

Oh you HAVE to show us pictures of those cat trees.:eek WOW, I have never heard of a cat tree made out of real oak!
I guess there is nothing better than a little teddy bear given to her by your granddaughter. How cute that sleeps with it, and misses it when it's being washed. OMG this girl sounds adorable. :Love_Icon

[Stars Daddy]

Terrific update! So glad that you are here and so willing to learn the right way to do things. Star will be much better off because of that willingness! Welcome to the TSB family!:grouphug

Thank you, we defiantly want to do what is best for her, and always have thought we was. We are by no means experts but have raised and released 3 others over the years. Star just would not release, extremely scared to be outside from the 1st time we took her out, could never get her used to being out. She would just sit in the corner of the outside cage and shake. We are more than willing to learn all we can from people that does know more than us. This is the 1st time she has ever been sick at all. So this was a huge scare for us and hope it was nothing we was doing wrong, but it could have been and we do not know. So we welcome all the advice we can get.

[Stars Daddy]

This is part of it with Star eating a nut .221286

Oh you HAVE to show us pictures of those cat trees.:eek WOW, I have never heard of a cat tree made out of real oak!
I guess there is nothing better than a little teddy bear given to her by your granddaughter. How cute that sleeps with it, and misses it when it's being washed. OMG this girl sounds adorable. :Love_Icon

[SammysMom]

I am NOT going to let Sammy get a look at this! That is beautiful and makes Sammy's "tree" look pretty pathetic in comparison!:sanp3

[TubeDriver]

:rotfl at the tiny bear story! :grin2

[Stars Daddy]

221288This is the top half you can see behind the log.
This is part of it with Star eating a nut .221286

[SammysMom]

Wow!:thumbsup

[SugarBugFerret]

This is part of it with Star eating a nut .221286

OOOOOOOOOooooooooo! I.......WANT......ONE! That is incredible!

[Stars Daddy]

She is spoiled and very loved. She does love her tree and log very much. Buy honestly spends more time laying on the corner of my desk than anywhere. We have a home business and our office is her room. We had to squirrel proof it with all the computer wires, but she can run the office as long as we are in it. We work from there so that is most of the time. We know she is a very happy girl, and she make us very happy too. She is worse than a child. My wife has said so many times, it does not matter what she does or gets into I just can't get mad at her. She knows what NO NO means and you can tell her no no when she is messing with something she is not supposed to, and she runs straight to the corner of my desk and lays flat and looks at you like I didn't do anything. You cant do anything but laugh with that looks she gives you. She is just adorable.

[SugarBugFerret]

You cant do anything but laugh with that looks she gives you.

Yep...I know that look all too well. :grin3

[Nancy in New York]

She is spoiled and very loved. She does love her tree and log very much. Buy honestly spends more time laying on the corner of my desk than anywhere. We have a home business and our office is her room. We had to squirrel proof it with all the computer wires, but she can run the office as long as we are in it. We work from there so that is most of the time. We know she is a very happy girl, and she make us very happy too. She is worse than a child. My wife has said so many times, it does not matter what she does or gets into I just can't get mad at her. She knows what NO NO means and you can tell her no no when she is messing with something she is not supposed to, and she runs straight to the corner of my desk and lays flat and looks at you like I didn't do anything. You cant do anything but laugh with that looks she gives you. She is just adorable.

Oh, I know how true this is!
Why is it that they really can't do anything wrong?
Every little thing they do, just seems so darned CUTE!
That sure is some cat tree.:eek I bet that weighs a ton!
Gorgeous!
You are so fortunate that you get to spend most of
your time with her too, even while working!
I would say this little girl sure is lucky to have found her
way to you. :grouphug

[Stars Daddy]

Let me start out by Saying Dr. Dan was AMAZING!. Today was a very stressful and eventful and successful day at Dr. Dan's. First Star Baby got up and was looking and feeling back to normal. So off we went and she really did not travel well and chewed on her carrier door all the way there. Once there and back in the examining room Dr. Dan could not believe how nice of a squirrel she was, he said he had never seen a squirrel as mild mannered as her. He checked her teeth and she never offered to bite him once, he could not believe it. He examined her all over and then he needed to draw blood for the blood work and said as calm as she was he thought we could do it without putting her to sleep. So he had my wife and I hold her as he tried to draw the blood. As we held her she struggled a minute and then stopped as he drew the blood, then she stopped breathing and died right there on the examining table. My wife started crying and yelling for him to help her, Dr. Dan calmly looked at her and said I will and walked out the room with her, telling someone to get the oxygen ready. I thought my wife was going to have a nervous breakdown right there is the room. I know it was only a few minutes, but seemed like hours a lady came back and said Dr. Dan got her breathing again, but needed to keep her on oxygen. My wife asked if she was going to be ok and the woman said she did not know. So finally about 5 minutes later Dr. Dan brought her in to us and said I think she seen the light, but he was able to save her. Poor Star Baby was pitiful, she just lay on my wife's chest and starred at her for I know 15 minutes before finally wanting to get in her carrier. Needless to say our hearts about exploded when this happened and then melted when we seen our Baby was going to be ok. Dr. Dan put her on the AB,s for 3 weeks, but is waiting for blood test on white cell to come back to know how bad the infection is. Should know in a day or 2. He thinks she is going to be fine but the other test will tell him if her uterus needs to come out. The main thing he told us is she has to lose weight, and we expected that. She needs to lose between 8 and 12 ounces. He said very few, if any nuts for a while. He said if he has to operate on her she needs to be in better shape. So diet and exercise time for our Star Baby. I have a feeling she is going to be mad at us for a while until we get her used to eating healthier. The picture is of DR. Dan & Star right before we left the examining room.221306

[stepnstone]

Damn! About got me in tears here!
I would have been the one needing oxygen if I were there.
What a scare! So very very happy Dr. Dan could revive her
and she's going to be alright.
Both you and your wife's nerves have to be frazzled!

[Stars Daddy]

Damn! About got me in tears here!
I would have been the one needing oxygen if I were there.
What a scare! So very very happy Dr. Dan could revive her
and she's going to be alright.
Both you and your wife's nerves have to be frazzled!

Yes nerves is about shot. I think it is time for a drink and calm down a bit.

[SammysMom]

Oh my goodness! Thank heavens you started by saying it was a successful day! I almost keeled over when I read that story! Dr. Dan is wonderful and so are you and your wife. That was way too stressful for anyone!
God bless Dr. Dan for caring!:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Duckman]

My heart stopped for a moment and I was actually in tears! Thank god I kept reading! What a shock!! Poor baby Star and Poor Mommy and Daddy! I am SO happy things turned out alright. I'm still in shock! I can't even imagine what you were going through!

[Stars Daddy]

We have another question about the HHB'S. With Star needing to lose weight and eat less nuts and sugars are these going to help her lose weight or just get her eating the right thing. I noticed the HHB'S has pecans in them, so I was just wondering. Dr. Dan said feed her the veggies but not the nuts for a while, because the nuts is what's making her fat. So I am kind of lost on what is going to be best for her to lose weight.

[island rehabber]

First of all, Star baby and Dr Dan both set the Cuteness Meter rockin' off the wall here :rotfl:tilt

Seriously, I can't imagine how scary that all was for you and Star. It is not the first time I have heard this scenario described when a squirrel needs a blood test, however. It may be why we don't have a lot of definitive info on correct blood levels for squirrels, and why vets often don't "just draw blood" as amatter of course when we bring our little guys in. For whatever reason, being a prey animal and having a needle stuck in your leg while you are being restrained is so stressful it can stop your heart. :(
I'm SO happy that Dr Dan is going to get to the bottom of this infection and that Star will be on the road to good squirrelly health very soon. You guys are awesome, awesome squarents. :bowdown

[CritterMom]

We have another question about the HHB'S. With Star needing to lose weight and eat less nuts and sugars are these going to help her lose weight or just get her eating the right thing. I noticed the HHB'S has pecans in them, so I was just wondering. Dr. Dan said feed her the veggies but not the nuts for a while, because the nuts is what's making her fat. So I am kind of lost on what is going to be best for her to lose weight.

Absolutely feed the HHBs. 2 per day plus fresh vegetables. Cut out the fruit (sugar) and "junk food" and try to increase her exercise maybe with play and she will be on the right road.

[Stars Daddy]

Absolutely feed the HHBs. 2 per day plus fresh vegetables. Cut out the fruit (sugar) and "junk food" and try to increase her exercise maybe with play and she will be on the right road.
Ok that's what we will do. She loves to play with my wife and they usually have a wrestle match on the floor everyday. We will see if she will double that. Plus I will keep her out of the bed as much. Can someone tell me how much she should be sleeping everyday.

[Nancy in New York]

Oh dear God, what a scare.
Did Dr. Dan suggest any type of rest for Star
after that ordeal?
I can't even imagine how scared you and your wife
must have been.
Does Dr. Dan consider this a heart attack?

I'm just so happy you are all home and can have that drink
now. What a day!
:grouphug:grouphug:grouphug

Sorry almost forgot.
Squirrels vary in their sleeping habits, I would say that mine
are awake an "average" of 8-12 hours in a 24 hour period.
You have to understand that mine are right in my kitchen, and
it has movement and noise until around 1:00 am in the morning.

[SammysMom]

I do not think that the number of nuts int he HHBs will do anything other than get her to eat them happily. Leigh has really worked out the nutritional values in those blocks and I am sure that if you stick to 2 - 3 per day along with veggies, she will be fine.

[SugarBugFerret]

:eek Oh my goodness! Reading that almost made my heart stop! I'm soooooo glad she is ok.

HHBs are so amazing. Besides meeting all the wonderful people here at TSB, discovering them is probably the single best thing I did by coming here. I call them wonder nuggets! :thumbsup

[Duckman]

I wish I could get you one of the wheels my kids have here (bicycle wheel with metal mesh around the spokes and sheet metal). The link is below and the last picture in the first post shows the wheel. Maybe you can make one off the picture. My kids run miles a day each on their wheel (except for Rex, who doesn't have one yet, because I haven't figured how to attach it to his cage) and they are pretty easy to make. Great for exercise!!!

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?42913-The-rest-of-my-Blessings!

[Stars Daddy]

I wish I could get you one of the wheels my kids have here (bicycle wheel with metal mesh around the spokes and sheet metal). The link is below and the last picture in the first post shows the wheel. Maybe you can make one off the picture. My kids run miles a day each on their wheel (except for Rex, who doesn't have one yet, because I haven't figured how to attach it to his cage) and they are pretty easy to make. Great for exercise!!!

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?42913-The-rest-of-my-Blessings!

Star had a wheel when she was a lot smaller, but out grew it. She then and still does runs circles around her hammock. At one time it was a everyday several times a day thing for her. Now she may only do this once or twice a week. My wife is going to start making her exercise when she get her strength back. She has a plan she says.

[Stars Daddy]

Star slept almost 24 straight hours. We got her up 1 time to make her drink a little water and eat some yogurt. I had to make her get up about a hour ago and I am making her stay out of her cage a little while. She is moving around good now, but she wants back in that cage so bad. I just can't believe she needs to keep sleeping. It can't be good for her to sleep that much. What is your thoughts on this. Should we make her stay up and run some or just let her sleep as much as she wants? I know she went through a traumatic experience yesterday, but I do not want her to just lay in her nest and not get any exercise.

[SammysMom]

Hydrate the heck out of her and the sleeping is not a problem. You just need to make sure she is not dehydrated which causes fatigue.

[TubeDriver]

Hydrate the heck out of her and the sleeping is not a problem. You just need to make sure she is not dehydrated which causes fatigue.

This^^^^^^^. Exactly right, hydration is important and real sleep is healing. Let her sleep and get her strength back on her own time.

[CritterMom]

I echo everyone else. I would encourage her to drink by adding maybe a little apple juice or something she likes to her water. I would also offer it WARM by SYRINGE like when she was a baby. Then I would let her sleep (but stick your hand in and love on her as much as you can) until she decides to come out. She has an infection and had a very traumatic day yesterday. Sleep with periodic drinks is just what she needs.

[stepnstone]

I just can't believe she needs to keep sleeping. It can't be good for her to sleep that much. What is your thoughts on this.
My girl is three and there have been days she just wants to hug the fleece too.
As long as she comes out to take a bite here and there and drink I don't
let it concern me, by the next day she's usually back to her normal.
The way I figure it, even the 4-legged can have lazy days... :sleep

Yesterday was a little stressful with your baby and she just needs to rejuvenate,
as long as she will eat and drink I wouldn't worry about it for today.
She knows what she needs...

[Stars Daddy]

Ok we give her the AB for today and she would not touch the veggies so my wife give her 1 peanut and 1 slice of a banana just so she eat something. We will give her some yogurt in a couple hours, she loves it. She is drinking a lot on her own when we get her up. But it just seems like we have to make her get out of her nest to drink. We kept her up for over 1 hour and when she finally realized we was not going to open her cage up she run around like normal. She went to all her hiding places looking for her nuts I guess, to discover that we had taken them all, she did not seem to happy about that. We actually found 24 nuts hidden around the room. After that she just lay on the corner of my desk and looked at me like I was being mean, so I had to let her back in the cage. She went right to the nest and back to sleep. So I guess from what everyone is saying I will just make her get up and drink a few times a day and let her sleep until she is ready to run again. Thanks to everyone for the great advice we get in here. You will never know how much we truly appreciate it.

[SammysMom]

Oh, we know how much you appreciate the help, because we were most all in your position at one point or another. Someday you will be here helping someone else who is frightened and doesn't know the right thing to do.:grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

[Fireweed]

Just wanted to pop in and say I've been following along since the beginning but not posting. I am totally in love with Star :Love_Icon and I think you and your wife are really, really great squeeps! :bowdown:bowdown
What a scary ordeal at Dr. Dan's. But I'm so glad she pulled through.
If I was a teenager, I'd have a pic of Dr. Dan in my locker. He's a rock star.

I'll be lurking more but know I'm following along and hoping for the best for your little sweetheart. :grouphug

[Stars Daddy]

:thankyou
Just wanted to pop in and say I've been following along since the beginning but not posting. I am totally in love with Star :Love_Icon and I think you and your wife are really, really great squeeps! :bowdown:bowdown
What a scary ordeal at Dr. Dan's. But I'm so glad she pulled through.
If I was a teenager, I'd have a pic of Dr. Dan in my locker. He's a rock star.

I'll be lurking more but know I'm following along and hoping for the best for your little sweetheart. :grouphug

[SugarBugFerret]

If I was a teenager, I'd have a pic of Dr. Dan in my locker. He's a rock star.

Whew! I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought Dr. Dan was a cutie! :crazy :rolf

Feel better Star!!! :Love_IconStar:Love_Icon

[Stars Daddy]

Whew! I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought Dr. Dan was a cutie! :crazy :rolf

Feel better Star!!! :Love_IconStar:Love_Icon

This is funny, our daughter and her best friend has already volunteered to take Star for her next visit for this reason.

[California Squirrel Lover]

My gosh, that scared the heck outta me!! I seriously freaked for a moment. Can't tell you how happy I am Star Baby made it. :thumbsup :grouphug:grouphug :Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Stars Daddy]

I am really starting to think what happened to Star yesterday has affected her in a bad way. She just really seems to not want anything to do with My wife or myself. She will let us pet her and my wife hold her but just seems scared to death every time we pet or hold her. She just runs back to her cage as soon as we let her go. This is really upsetting my wife. She thinks it is because we held her down while Dr. Dan took the blood and she stopped breathing. I sure hope this is not the case. She has always trusted us and wanted to be around us. Now it just seems like the opposite. If you have ever seen a dog that has been beaten, how they will cower down around people, that is how she is acting towards us now. I hope we did not break our Star Baby's trust in us. Has anyone ever seen this happen with a squirrel? Where they just started to seem scared of someone that they used to trust so much. I do not know how we can get it back if we got to keep holding her down to give her the AB,s. Changing her diet to where she cannot have treats anymore. I am not sure she will ever trust us again. Have we turned our baby girl away from us? Will she ever be the same Star Baby we had just a few days ago? This just has us miserable right now, just the thought of making her lose trust in us.

[stepnstone]

Squirrel attitude...
and your being punished.
Be patent, she'll come around.
And stop beating yourselves up!
You did what you had to do for her
and your little girl still knows you love her.

[TubeDriver]

From her point of view, you carried her to somewhere scary where they poked her and from what you described, she technically died of fright.

But as her parents, you had no choice. You did what was best for Star baby.


She does not completely understand that. It will take a while to reestablish her trust. How long will this take? Maybe a week, maybe a month, who knows how long?

Keep loving her, be gentle with her and she will accept you as her family again. Give her more time to settle down. Squirrels don't dwell on the past much, she will get over this.



I am really starting to think what happened to Star yesterday has affected her in a bad way. She just really seems to not want anything to do with My wife or myself. She will let us pet her and my wife hold her but just seems scared to death every time we pet or hold her. She just runs back to her cage as soon as we let her go. This is really upsetting my wife. She thinks it is because we held her down while Dr. Dan took the blood and she stopped breathing. I sure hope this is not the case. She has always trusted us and wanted to be around us. Now it just seems like the opposite. If you have ever seen a dog that has been beaten, how they will cower down around people, that is how she is acting towards us now. I hope we did not break our Star Baby's trust in us. Has anyone ever seen this happen with a squirrel? Where they just started to seem scared of someone that they used to trust so much. I do not know how we can get it back if we got to keep holding her down to give her the AB,s. Changing her diet to where she cannot have treats anymore. I am not sure she will ever trust us again. Have we turned our baby girl away from us? Will she ever be the same Star Baby we had just a few days ago? This just has us miserable right now, just the thought of making her lose trust in us.

[Stars Daddy]

From her point of view, you carried her to somewhere scary where they poked her and from what you described, she technically died of fright.

But as her parents, you had no choice. You did what was best for Star baby.


She does not completely understand that. It will take a while to reestablish her trust. How long will this take? Maybe a week, maybe a month, who knows how long?

Keep loving her, be gentle with her and she will accept you as her family again. Give her more time to settle down. Squirrels don't dwell on the past much, she will get over this.

I sure hope so, it bothers me because I do love her, but my wife is really tore up. I think she may have acted better this morning. She came out on her own and drink water and wanted out of her cage. I give her a teaspoon of yogurt after she turned down the veggies and monkey biscuit, and was begging for a treat. She ate about 1/2 the yogurt and continued to beg me for a nut. She does this by pawing at the door they are in my desk and looking at me. It was so hard not to give her a nut, but I didn't and she went back to her nest and went back to sleep. Normally she will get her morning nut and run around with it in her mouth for 10 minutes or so before cracking it and eating it laying on the corner of my desk. I am going to miss this morning ritual we have had together for years now. But I know its for her own good. I know she sure has not eat much at all for almost a week now, very little veggies and only seen her nibble a monkey biscuit a couple of times. She has basically been surviving on a couple teaspoons of yogurt a day. We just started giving her this yogurt from some advice we got in here to help her stomach while on the ABs. I am hoping the HHBs get here soon and she will like them as much as she does this yogurt.

[island rehabber]

I'm betting on Star being fine in a few days, you guys. She did have a traumatic experience and squirrels are smart enough to resist change, just like humans. They notice, they calculate, and they react accordingly. We have seen this before, especially after a vet visit or procedure. Keep loving her, talking to her, and don't let her know you are upset. She reads that too. :)

[Milo's Mom]

I am really starting to think what happened to Star yesterday has affected her in a bad way. She just really seems to not want anything to do with My wife or myself. She will let us pet her and my wife hold her but just seems scared to death every time we pet or hold her. She just runs back to her cage as soon as we let her go. This is really upsetting my wife. She thinks it is because we held her down while Dr. Dan took the blood and she stopped breathing. I sure hope this is not the case. She has always trusted us and wanted to be around us. Now it just seems like the opposite. If you have ever seen a dog that has been beaten, how they will cower down around people, that is how she is acting towards us now. I hope we did not break our Star Baby's trust in us. Has anyone ever seen this happen with a squirrel? Where they just started to seem scared of someone that they used to trust so much. I do not know how we can get it back if we got to keep holding her down to give her the AB,s. Changing her diet to where she cannot have treats anymore. I am not sure she will ever trust us again. Have we turned our baby girl away from us? Will she ever be the same Star Baby we had just a few days ago? This just has us miserable right now, just the thought of making her lose trust in us.

Star will be just fine. She has a lot of changes and new things lately and now her Daddy will not give her any of her precious treats...only those green yucky veggies. She is acting out, like a child does...call it a squirrel temper tantrum. What you are doing with her is called tough love and it will work.

Try not to fret around her too much...she'll pick up on it. Squirrels do not remember things forever like humans...they are much more "in the moment" (for the day).

Keep on the path you are on, Star will come around....they always do.

I do love reading about her and seeing her pics.

She will like the HHB's...they have NUTS!!!!!

[TubeDriver]

Star will be just fine. She has a lot of changes and new things lately and now her Daddy will not give her any of her precious treats...only those green yucky veggies. She is acting out, like a child does...call it a squirrel temper tantrum. What you are doing with her is called tough love and it will work.

Try not to fret around her too much...she'll pick up on it. Squirrels do not remember things forever like humans...they are much more "in the moment" (for the day).

Keep on the path you are on, Star will come around....they always do.

I do love reading about her and seeing her pics.

She will like the HHB's...they have NUTS!!!!!

:goodpost

[SammysMom]

Oh how these little devils can play us!!! Not to mention that she is a junk food junkie and you are withholding her "drug" of choice. It's all for her own good and leading to a healthy long life with you. Keep up the good work and don't let her punishment of you hurt your feelings too much.:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Stars Daddy]

Well Star Baby eat a little better today. Still not good but she did eat a little bit of her veggies. She did also stay up a little more today, but you can tell she is still not herself. It was encouraging that she at least nibbled the veggies though. If she will improve that much more tomorrow I might can quit worrying. Here is a today pic of her in the basket in the top of her tree. She was trying to hide from us.221510

[SammysMom]

Oh how I love that basket!!! The tree is amazing!!! So glad she is feeling better too!!!:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Stars Daddy]

Oh how I love that basket!!! The tree is amazing!!! So glad she is feeling better too!!!:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

She was funny in that basket today. I would call her name and say where is my Star Baby, and she would lay down so I could not see her. Then I would not say anything for a min. and she would stick her head up. This went on for about 10 min. So I had to get a picture. I was going to do a video and after the picture she cam down. She is a mess.:grin3

[Stars Daddy]

I was also wanting to ask if there is any better way to give Star her ABs other than just forcing it with a syringe. Dr. Dan even made her banana flavored AB, but it is still a fight to get this in her everyday. If anyone else has a way that is easier please let me know.

[SammysMom]

Is there anything that you can dip the syringe in or even draw a bit of up in front of the med that she really likes? Even a bit of grenadine or syrup? It's sweet so maybe tempting.

[Stars Daddy]

Is there anything that you can dip the syringe in or even draw a bit of up in front of the med that she really likes? Even a bit of grenadine or syrup? It's sweet so maybe tempting.
The only liquid I have ever seen her drink other than water is sweet tea. But that's a good Idea If I can find something she likes.

[Stars Daddy]

Can someone tell me if this will be ok to give Star for treats. She like these things almost as good as nuts.221531

[keetz1205]

As a treat given maybe once a week they'd be ok but the first ingredient is corn which means that's its main ingredient. You want to stay away from a lot of corn as it's calcium/phosphorus ratio is not good. If you click this link, and go to post #1, click on links (particularly the 2nd link) in the post and it will show you the calcium/phosphorus ratios for veggies, fruits and nuts/seeds. Corn is on the evil list.

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?15397-Food-Data-Chart-Update-Calcium-to-Phosphorus-Ratios

[Stars Daddy]

We got the HHB's today and Star Baby loves them. She attacked that thing when I give it to her. Now when she got done there was some of it just shredded up, but I am pretty sure she eat over 3/4 of it. This is awesome that she love her new healthy food so much. Thank you all for introducing these blocks to us. Star Baby said thank you too. She actually run circles around her hammock after she eat that thing. I think she is happy again.

[stepnstone]

She actually run circles around her hammock after she eat that thing. I think she is happy again.

She got that taste of nuts she's been craving,
she don't care if it's in a different package. :grin2

[PennyCash]

She is spoiled and very loved. She does love her tree and log very much. Buy honestly spends more time laying on the corner of my desk than anywhere. We have a home business and our office is her room. We had to squirrel proof it with all the computer wires, but she can run the office as long as we are in it. We work from there so that is most of the time. We know she is a very happy girl, and she make us very happy too. She is worse than a child. My wife has said so many times, it does not matter what she does or gets into I just can't get mad at her. She knows what NO NO means and you can tell her no no when she is messing with something she is not supposed to, and she runs straight to the corner of my desk and lays flat and looks at you like I didn't do anything. You cant do anything but laugh with that looks she gives you. She is just adorable.

OMG I love it. What a perfect description.

[PennyCash]

She got that taste of nuts she's been craving,
she don't care if it's in a different package. :grin2

:goodpost

Wonderful update today. Keep up the good work :grouphug

[sqrlmum]

Dr. Dan even made her banana flavored AB...

Dude. One day, I am going to marry the crap out of Dr. Dan! *swoon*

Too bad I'm not anywhere near that area. Well, it's probably a good thing... ;)

[Stars Daddy]

Got Dr. Dan's Blood test results today on Star Baby. He said the white counts was very high showing she had a pretty bad infection. He said to continue the AB'S for the full 3 weeks, and it is possible she may have to be spade if she did not improve or if it returned after the AB's. I can say she has improved greatly since our visit. Today she was wide open almost all day. She stayed out of her cage with me for 6 straight hours. She run all over this room. Looking for all her stash of nuts I am sure. She only found 1 almond I guess we missed and I could not catch her to get it from her so I let her win that one. That is the only nut in 3 days, but she has been good about eating her HHB and eating some veggies, she has cut back on veggies since she got these HHB. I assume it's keeping her more full is why she don't eat as much veggies. I sure hope the infection don't come back. After the scare we had just drawing blood I am not sure she can make it through a surgery.

[Nancy in New York]

Hoping that Star's infection doesn't come back.
I'm sure you don't even want to think of that possibility, so just
positive thoughts coming your way.
Sounds like she is getting back to her 'ol self, glad to hear that! :grouphug
:Love_IconStar :Love_Icon

[farrelli]

Wow, sounds like if you didn't get to Dr. Dan little Star would have been in very bad trouble indeed. I'm so glad that she's OK now. How are you going to determine if the infection returns? Did symptoms show up early last time?

[Stars Daddy]

Hoping that Star's infection doesn't come back.
I'm sure you don't even want to think of that possibility, so just
positive thoughts coming your way.
Sounds like she is getting back to her 'ol self, glad to hear that! :grouphug
:Love_IconStar :Love_Icon

UGHHH! Can't Sleep, Nancy I really cannot think of the infection coming back. To make a decision to have Star operated on after the near loss last Friday, That would be something I do not want to make. My wife is still blaming herself for what happened to Star the other day. Thinks she was holding her too tight and did that. I can't imagine what she would put her self through if we took Star for a operation and she did not make it. So I will continue to pray for my Star to stay healthy, and hope it does not have to come to that decision.

[Stars Daddy]

Wow, sounds like if you didn't get to Dr. Dan little Star would have been in very bad trouble indeed. I'm so glad that she's OK now. How are you going to determine if the infection returns? Did symptoms show up early last time?

Yes farrelli, it was bad, which I knew that the night I signed up in TSB asking for help. And we feel blessed we found TSB and got all the helpful info and advice we have here. I really am not sure how to determine if the infection returns other than the same signs as last time. Her feeling bad and the white substance coming from her vaginal area. Honestly when this originally happened she was fine one day and woke up the next feeling terrible and white stuff oozing. My wife checks her vaginal area several times everyday making sure the substance is not there. So if it happens we will be on top of it. But as of right now we are living on prayers that we never have to experience that again.

[Stars Daddy]

I have another question about the HHB's. Will it hurt to give Star more than 2 a day? She loves these things and I was wondering if I could use another of the HHB cut into 1/4 pieces to give to her when she is begging for a treat. Since I have been giving her these she has stopped eating as much veggies, although she does still eat some, but she is still begging for the treats as well. I have showed her I do not have the treats in the room anymore. But she still goes to where I kept them chewing on the drawer and looking at me like hey I know there in here. I was just thinking maybe the HHB might would satisfy her in place of the nut.

[SammysMom]

Giving 3/day is just fine! Far better to give those than anything else!

[Duckman]

Totally echo what Sammysmom said. Giving her 3 is no problem, but fill in after that will the good veggies for bulk. Once she is back to her healthy weight, it won't hurt to "Treat" her to a nut once a day, but that isn't now. Keep up the tough love with Star Baby and she will appreciate it later (trust me, she will!). When I switched Rex to rodent block, we had to do the cold turkey thing and took all treats away for 2 months (all he had was bland rodent block!). Now we use HHB's and he would rather eat those than the dry unappetizing block. The funny thing is that Blue Belle doesn't like the HHB's and would rather eat the rodent block. She is sitting eating one now, as I type and she just devours them. They all still want their one nut per day as a treat, and all love their evening veggies.

[Stars Daddy]

Awesome :thankyou I just cut one into quarters, she came over to see what I was doing and grabbed one of the little pieces and took off like It was a nut. I think this will make her feel like she is getting treats like this.

[Stars Daddy]

Something I noticed with Star this morning, her poop is almost white and very hard. Is this something the AB's could be doing. Yesterday it had white in it but not all white. Is this something I should be alarmed about or just something caused from the AB's and Diet change. Pic of poop below
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[island rehabber]

It could be from the ABs, and could also be from any extra calcium or supplements you're giving her? Tums will do that sometimes.....Try to get her to drink more water today if you can, then see how her poops turn out later. Put a drop of sweet tea in the water if you have to. :)

[Stars Daddy]

It could be from the ABs, and could also be from any extra calcium or supplements you're giving her? Tums will do that sometimes.....Try to get her to drink more water today if you can, then see how her poops turn out later. Put a drop of sweet tea in the water if you have to. :)

I did give her 1/2 a tums yesterday. So that probably is what it is.

[island rehabber]

I did give her 1/2 a tums yesterday. So that probably is what it is.

Yes. Remember that calcium is both constipating (a main reason why human women don't take calcium supplements when they should) and can make poops white, so try to give extra water and watery foods like melon when you're giving calcium. :)

[farrelli]

When supplementing calcium, especially if you suspect MBD, the idea is to provide calcium through the day and not just in one big dose. Paced through the day keeps the blood levels up, is much better utilized, and tends to not cause constipation and white poops.

[Stars Daddy]

Yes. Remember that calcium is both constipating (a main reason why human women don't take calcium supplements when they should) and can make poops white, so try to give extra water and watery foods like melon when you're giving calcium. :)

I got a lot of water in her last night and today and we now have normal poop once again. :thankyou

[SammysMom]

Excellent report!:thumbsup

[Stars Daddy]

Star Baby update: She is still eating great, and acting like she feels great as well. Her diet is going very well also, she has lost 1.4 ounces in the last 6 days. So if she stays on that pace she should be at normal weight in about 6 to 7 more weeks.

[SammysMom]

Yeah! Great update!!! Merry Christmas Star and family...:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Duckman]

:thumbsup:Love_Icon:thumbsup

[farrelli]

So glad she's getting slim and healthy!

[Stars Daddy]

Yeah! Great update!!! Merry Christmas Star and family...:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

Merry Christmas to all!