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Crys
11-08-2013, 07:35 PM
Hello, I'm new to the forum.

I have a baby squirrel that is about 11 weeks old. That's just an estimate as I got him from a neighbor who found him in the backyard where a tree had fallen and his mother died soon after the fall, his eyes were open and he was fully furred weighing about 150 grams. I compared him with the pictures to see how old he was and guessed about 5-8 weeks. I took him to the vet because he had a head injury/tilt and a swollen eye. Dr. Davis told me he had inter-cranial bleeding and his eye was permanently damaged, he also gave him a steroid shot for inflammation and swelling. After learning this, and doing research on pros/cons and expenses of having him with me for his lifetime, I decided to keep him with me. I live in Ar, we have very lenient pet laws. Literally on the game and fish website/book it states that any person may own up to 6 bobcats, raccoons, skunks, deer, squirrels, and all kinds of other critters from outdoors, weird right? My vet showed me the book and the website for our state. I have a very close relationship with my vet bc the store I work at uses him as well and I have to see his face everyday haha. He rehabs a lot of wild animals and owns 2 greys so he has been a anchor getting nugget through his injury. He is very strong and healthy besides a lame eye. His head tilt is completely gone, bleeding quit a day after taking him to the vet.

I've done enough research to get him through the formula stages which we're still on and will remain on until he decides he doesn't want the formula anymore. My vet reccommended and I have seen many other users on here recommend self-weaning, so that's what we are going with. He started on a goat milk recipe that my vet gave me until I recieved the FV formula that I ordered after I left the vet. He has his teeth and I have been providing antlers, twigs, and other small animals chews which he does gnaw on. Recently I have been putting in forti-diet rodent blocks for him but he has yet to show any interest in them and still drinks the formula consistently. I have saw many on this forum using the HHBs and I like that they are especially formulated for squirrels. I have not purchased any bc currently I get the kaytee forti-diet blocks for free from petsmart where I work as the petcare lead. I know, it's not fair, but hey. We use the blocks for all the small animals we sell and I have a very awesome boss that doesn't really care that I take some home every week. I get my carefresh, cuttle bones, rodent blocks, and chews from store use. My point with this past the rambling is that I would like to make the HHB before I buy them and try them out. I saw that one of the main post mentioned a recipe but I have not been able to locate so I was wanting someone to help me find it by posting a link or directions for where to go. I really want to encourage him to try his blocks. He doesn't seem ready to wean just yet, but when he is I want to have them available for him. All he gets is formula and a few blocks I put in his cage for the day. He is currently on about 3-4 feedings a day with FV, I'm going with the tough love approach that I read on here about getting him to eat blocks before introducing supplements. Another question, I have seen that forti-diet is an option but since the HHBs are speciafically for squirrels are they then better, and if i make them myself with the vitamins from the website are they just as good as the original HHBs?

Behavior/Training

My little nugget is really playful and active. I've read that they are one-person animals, and I am definitely that person. He is not mean to my fiance but he doesn't particularly like to be handled by him unless he happens to have formula on him haha. However, he runs to me soon after James is done feeding him and he likes to bum underneath my cover with me usually on my stomach or lap curling up to sleep or running under the covers creating tunnels. I also use my hand to play "fight" or that's what I am calling it. So here is the question, is this bad? When I trained my doberman through schutzhund, I learned that a dog should never have their teeth on you unless commanded, not even with teething or play. Is this the same with squirrels? Should I not allow him to nibble my fingers when he pounces on my hand. He turns flips and really enjoys play biting my fingers especially. He doesn't usually bite too hard, only when he gets carried away, which I then squeal like an idiot to let him know he is hurting me. He usually acknowledges it and lessens his bite.

Any answers will be greatly appreciated, Thanks so much!

Do you think my professor will believe me if I tell him my squirrel ate my homework??!

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squirrellove89
11-08-2013, 07:54 PM
I play with gabby with a stuffed animal. she play fights with that and has never bit me. as far as them being one person animals gabby wants nothing to do with anyone but me if someone else is around she wont bother them she may get curious and go near them but not for long and if they approach her she will attack them my friend who i have had for years is here right now and offered gabby a green bean and she attacked her hand and then she kept trying and gabby was getting mad i finally had to tell her stop but she takes it fine from me.

Crys
11-08-2013, 08:00 PM
I play with gabby with a stuffed animal. she play fights with that and has never bit me. as far as them being one person animals gabby wants nothing to do with anyone but me if someone else is around she wont bother them she may get curious and go near them but not for long and if they approach her she will attack them my friend who i have had for years is here right now and offered gabby a green bean and she attacked her hand and then she kept trying and gabby was getting mad i finally had to tell her stop but she takes it fine from me.

I also play with him with a stuffed dog toy that I bought. He likes it but will soon go for my hand, he has yet to actually bite me hard. As with most animals I suspect that will only be a matter of time, but no way it could ever compare with a Moluccan too bite haha so no worries. I just want to make sure I am not teaching him that biting is okay as is likely to happen when playing with dogs like this.

Anne
11-08-2013, 08:07 PM
:Welcome To you and Nugget!:wave123

Don't think your professor will buy the "My squirrel ate my homework" bit :rofl4:rofl4 But you are free to try it!
Sounds like Nugget has a loving squmammy and a great vet. Great on both fronts.:grouphug You are doing the best thing to reduce the play biting he does. Somewhere in puberty he will start what we call "wilding up" and his bites more than likely will change and get hard. Sometimes they get a nasty attitude and are hard to handle or work with, your boyfriend will most often be seen as the enemy.
I believe you will find the Henry's homemade block recipe in the Nutrition section, The most important thing you will ever do for Nugget is to feed him a healthy diet everyday he is with you. The diet too is in the Nutrition section. You will find that there are two issues we really are strong about on the board. Diet! Diet! Diet!
And pictures-I didn't see any pictures with you post :poke. Once you have full access you will be able to post pictures of Nugget--a lot of pictures! We love seeing squirrels of all ages and types. You will be hounded for pictures :grin3

Crys
11-08-2013, 08:33 PM
:Welcome To you and Nugget!:wave123

Don't think your professor will buy the "My squirrel ate my homework" bit :rofl4:rofl4 But you are free to try it!
Sounds like Nugget has a loving squmammy and a great vet. Great on both fronts.:grouphug You are doing the best thing to reduce the play biting he does. Somewhere in puberty he will start what we call "wilding up" and his bites more than likely will change and get hard. Sometimes they get a nasty attitude and are hard to handle or work with, your boyfriend will most often be seen as the enemy.
I believe you will find the Henry's homemade block recipe in the Nutrition section, The most important thing you will ever do for Nugget is to feed him a healthy diet everyday he is with you. The diet too is in the Nutrition section. You will find that there are two issues we really are strong about on the board. Diet! Diet! Diet!
And pictures-I didn't see any pictures with you post :poke. Once you have full access you will be able to post pictures of Nugget--a lot of pictures! We love seeing squirrels of all ages and types. You will be hounded for pictures :grin3

I thought I posted a pic with the professor part haha, it shows it on my pc, idk maybe it didn't work. Nugget was trying to chew on my homework with his head sticking out of the cover. I'm a lazy heffer when I get home from work, I usually curl up on the couch with my cover and school work until I go to bed and have successfully completed caring for pets at home. Nugget usually wakes up begs to be fed FV and then to get out of the cage for a bit with me.

Your advice will be taken. I am going to start trying to get him to focus his chewing and biting on the toys and not me. It worked great for my dogs lol.

By the way, if James becomes the enemy that's fine with me. He recently graduated and took a job 4 hours away so I do almost all the animal care including the cockatoo who happens to love James to death but hates my guts... Moluccans are the largest cockatoo species and they are considered the most difficult parrot to own. Just to put this in perspective he broke my finger last fall and almost completely severed it over getting too close to James while he was handling him... I think this will be only fair then don't you think??!?!? :grin3
Not to mention every single animal we own loves James completely and me second to him haha, so I deserve at least one right?! Nugget is the only male in our household so maybe that is why he has chosen me?
What about neutering? My vet's squirrels are neutered, and he recommended it to me. Will this help at all with settling him down some as far as any aggression. I have read that many neutered their squirrels. I would be interested to know at what age this is recommended or if it is necessary at all?

Duckman
11-08-2013, 09:07 PM
Hello, I'm new to the forum.

:Welcome to the Squirrel Board, henceforth known as TSB!





Behavior/Training

My little nugget is really playful and active. I've read that they are one-person animals, and I am definitely that person. He is not mean to my fiance but he doesn't particularly like to be handled by him unless he happens to have formula on him haha. However, he runs to me soon after James is done feeding him and he likes to bum underneath my cover with me usually on my stomach or lap curling up to sleep or running under the covers creating tunnels. I also use my hand to play "fight" or that's what I am calling it. So here is the question, is this bad? When I trained my doberman through schutzhund, I learned that a dog should never have their teeth on you unless commanded, not even with teething or play. Is this the same with squirrels? Should I not allow him to nibble my fingers when he pounces on my hand. He turns flips and really enjoys play biting my fingers especially. He doesn't usually bite too hard, only when he gets carried away, which I then squeal like an idiot to let him know he is hurting me. He usually acknowledges it and lessens his bite.

Any answers will be greatly appreciated, Thanks so much!

Do you think my professor will believe me if I tell him my squirrel ate my homework??!



Squirrels are pretty much as different from each other, as humans are from each other. My Rex is one of a kind. Even though I was the one who was Mama during his rearing, he has attached to my wife, my son, and myself and will interact completely with all of us. The only thing he does different with me, is that he loves and cuddles with me, and me only. Also, when he gets scared while out, he will only come diving into my lap, for comfort. (If I am not there, he runs into his cage to hide)

As for the hand fighting, that is a tough one. With Rex, he would play fight with my hand all the time, but once he got into his squirrel teens, he started to get REALLY aggressive with my hand. I ended up having to have him neutered. Had I known then what I know now, I would not have played hand wrestling with him, and would have used a toy instead. Playing with your squirrel is definitely recommended, because they need LOTS of interaction with you, when they are a non release.

Nugget is adorable, but I have to say that Rex has shredded my son's homework before, and the teacher didn't buy it, even with a note from me. :grin3

farrelli
11-08-2013, 10:27 PM
Neutering is generally not recommended here. Most reports have no change.

The extra aggression can go toward toys, but he should be allowed to use his teeth, though not bite. Grooming you is one of their main ways of showing affection and bonding. They give frequent manicures.

If you don't find the recipe and no one posts it, ask again.