Gave baby Esbilac before I realized it was rancid HELP! TAMPA, FL

[Gantheia]

1) I have been giving the baby pedia lite since yesterday and it was improving

2) Gave whipping cream because pet stores were closed

3) Got esbilac and used the recommended formula now baby is declining, just recently read posts about bad esbilac!!! I compared the pictures and the PetAg I bought is definitley rancid. Now the baby is doing worse again and I need help! It has been constipated and when it does poo it is diarrhea :( I can see its ribs.

4) I am planning on buying Fox Valley 32/40 and am trying to get my hands on some goat's milk in the mean time. Is this the right course of action?

5) I see posts from a woman in Tampa, can she help me?

6)Working on purchasing the correct syringe, the eye dropper I am using temporarily isn't sufficient.

7) I have a heating pad with a 1-hour automatic shut-off; not good for night time.

Thank you!!

I don't want Euclid to die.

[Nancy in New York]

1) I have been giving the baby pedia lite since yesterday and it was improving

2) Gave whipping cream because pet stores were closed

3) Got esbilac and used the recommended formula now baby is declining, just recently read posts about bad esbilac!!! I compared the pictures and the PetAg I bought is definitley rancid. Now the baby is doing worse again and I need help! It has been constipated and when it does poo it is diarrhea :( I can see its ribs.

4) I am planning on buying Fox Valley 32/40 and am trying to get my hands on some goat's milk in the mean time. Is this the right course of action?

5) I see posts from a woman in Tampa, can she help me?

6)Working on purchasing the correct syringe, the eye dropper I am using temporarily isn't sufficient.

7) I have a heating pad with a 1-hour automatic shut-off; not good for night time.

Thank you!!

I don't want Euclid to die.

I will notify Jackie in Tampa, and give you full access if you don't already have it.

[Rhapsody]

Yes, you are doing the right thing by stopping the Esbilac and feeding the GM with vanilla yogurt added until the Fox Valley arrives.
I would also recommend that you use some of the Pedialyte you have left over and flush the rancid Esbilac out of the body.

[Jackie in Tampa]

Euclid is a street near my home...are you in south tampa?

[Gantheia]

Yes, you are doing the right thing by stopping the Esbilac and feeding the GM with vanilla yogurt added until the Fox Valley arrives.
I would also recommend that you use some of the Pedialyte you have left over and flush the rancid Esbilac out of the body.

Thank you so much. He just peeped for the first time ever, I think he's in pain... :'( Less than two weeks old but not pink. I am flushing with pedilyte.

Are you a rehabber?

about to order FV. Do i have the right ratio?

[Rhapsody]

Thank you so much. He just peeped for the first time ever, I think he's in pain... :'( Less than two weeks old but not pink. I am flushing with pedilyte.

Are you a rehabber?

about to order FV. Do i have the right ratio?Yes, I am a rehabber --we have a great rehabber name Jackie that is closer to you in Tampa.
The Fox Valley 32/40 is the correct formula to purchase, and get some 1cc syringes & 3cc syringe with the long gated nipples.

[Gantheia]

Also, he is sucking down Pedilyte like a champ. Great Advice.
Is is bad to give him too much?

Thank you

[Rhapsody]

Also, he is sucking down Pedilyte like a champ. Great Advice.
Is is bad to give him too much?

Thank you Pedialyte should never be given for more than 24 hours..... then you can go to water in between feedings if hydration is still needed.
I would flush his body for a few hours, feeding every 20-30 minutes....... then start with the GM mixed with vanilla yogurt.

[Gantheia]

Euclid is a street near my home...are you in south tampa?


I'm in Temple Terrace on Whiteway Dr.

I was in Sarasota when I found him on the cement at a gas station. He was writing in the rain and right in front of my tire. I would have squished him if I didn't see him. Very supernatural. Euclid was the street we were driving by as I started to cry for the poor thing. I also think he will be good at geometric proofs ;) I was just starting to get into an argument with my significant other when Mother Nature plopped him into my life. Haven't argued since. Such a blessing

[Gantheia]

Pedialyte should never be given for more than 24 hours..... then you can go to water in between feedings if hydration is still needed.
I would flush his body for a few hours, feeding every 20-30 minutes....... then start with the GM mixed with vanilla yogurt.

I've been giving Pedilyte since about 9 or 10 PM last night but he still looks dehydrated. I'll try to post a picture... if I can figure out how. I will stop tonight according to your instructions. I'm looking for stores now that sell GM.

THANK YOU <3

[Rhapsody]

I've been giving Pedilyte since about 9 or 10 PM last night but he still looks dehydrated. I'll try to post a picture... if I can figure out how. I will stop tonight according to your instructions. I'm looking for stores now that sell GM.

THANK YOU <3

You can get GM at most grocery stores either in the milk section in a carton (or) in a can with the condense milk
and dont forget the vanilla yogurt..... you will not need the heavy cream since you are ordering FV too.

I use PhotoBucket.com to upload my PICS with..... it works GREAT!!

Homemade Recipe - until FV arrives

1 cup Goats Milk * (if can - dilute)
1/3 cup Full Fat Vanilla Yogurt
1/3 cup Heavy Cream

(lasts 72 hours in frig)



Homemade Pedialyte
1 cup warm water
1/4 tsp salt (teaspoon)
1 Tbsp sugar (tablespoon)

..... omit salt after 24 hours.

[Jackie in Tampa]

I do have syringes and nipples that I can share...I use GMformula for the wee babies.
A no shut off heating pad is a must, CVS or Walgreen $15, you will need this for many weeks.
You can make a rice buddy using 2 cup'ish of any dry rice in a sock, tied off, microwave for 20 seconds, squish it around so there are no hot spots.
You'll have to reheat every couple hours...make sure the heating pad is not too hot that you are using... placing fabric between the pad and the container will work best... you just want a warm spot, don't want to over heat him. Is the baby a boy?
slow is key, head up tail down, never tilted back like a human baby... slow...
if you see liquid coming out his nose you are going too fast, gently tip nose to floor for a few seconds, allowing fluids to exit, wipe of residual and go slower.

As Rhapsody has explained, pedialyte after 24 hours becomes counter productive...
use sugar water, no salt.

:WelcomeWelcome to TSB..
two weeks old is little... I have two here now that age:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Jackie in Tampa]

I've been giving Pedilyte since about 9 or 10 PM last night but he still looks dehydrated. I'll try to post a picture... if I can figure out how. I will stop tonight according to your instructions. I'm looking for stores now that sell GM.

THANK YOU <3





PUBLIX has Meyerberg Fresh near the milk AND yogurt and also canned...
You will need to freeze and thaw what you need as you go, GM has short shelf life after container has been opened..

you are getting great info from Rhapsody...:thumbsup

[Gantheia]

You can get GM at most grocery stores either in the milk section in a carton (or) in a can with the condense milk
and dont forget the vanilla yogurt..... you will not need the heavy cream since you are ordering FV too.

I use PhotoBucket.com to upload my PICS with..... it works GREAT!!

Homemade Recipe - until FV arrives

1 cup Goats Milk * (if can - dilute)
1/3 cup Full Fat Vanilla Yogurt
1/3 cup Heavy Cream

(lasts 72 hours in frig)



Homemade Pedialyte
1 cup warm water
1/4 tsp salt (teaspoon)
1 Tbsp sugar (tablespoon)

..... omit salt after 24 hours.

The homemade pedialyte is what I did when I first brought it to my friend with baby bunnies. It was a fluke actually, found it on the way to her house.

I do have syringes and nipples that I can share...I use GMformula for the wee babies.
A no shut off heating pad is a must, CVS or Walgreen $15, you will need this for many weeks.
You can make a rice buddy using 2 cup'ish of any dry rice in a sock, tied off, microwave for 20 seconds, squish it around so there are no hot spots.
You'll have to reheat every couple hours...make sure the heating pad is not too hot that you are using... placing fabric between the pad and the container will work best... you just want a warm spot, don't want to over heat him. Is the baby a boy?
slow is key, head up tail down, never tilted back like a human baby... slow...
if you see liquid coming out his nose you are going too fast, gently tip nose to floor for a few seconds, allowing fluids to exit, wipe of residual and go slower.

As Rhapsody has explained, pedialyte after 24 hours becomes counter productive...
use sugar water, no salt.

:WelcomeWelcome to TSB..
two weeks old is little... I have two here now that age:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

PUBLIX has Meyerberg Fresh near the milk AND yogurt and also canned...
You will need to freeze and thaw what you need as you go, GM has short shelf life after container has been opened..

you are getting great info from Rhapsody...:thumbsup


I would get a heating pad but I don't have enough money... ^-^; I used it all on bad esbilac ...
I will try the rice buddy. I do have rice and socks!

Any help I can get I will take. I can pick up the feeding supplies.
It is a baby boy, yes, as far as I can tell.

I have it on the heating bad with bandanas and a towel in between. He's so precious... and pitiful ...

Off to the store~ Be back soon!

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[Rhapsody]

PRECIOUS.......... :Love_Icon :Love_Icon :Love_Icon

[Jackie in Tampa]

Wow, he is a little one:Love_Icon...he needs to be fed every three hours round the clock.

[Starfish]

The homemade pedialyte is what I did when I first brought it to my friend with baby bunnies. It was a fluke actually, found it on the way to her house.




I would get a heating pad but I don't have enough money... ^-^; I used it all on bad esbilac ...
I will try the rice buddy. I do have rice and socks!

Any help I can get I will take. I can pick up the feeding supplies.
It is a baby boy, yes, as far as I can tell.

I have it on the heating bad with bandanas and a towel in between. He's so precious... and pitiful ...

Off to the store~ Be back soon!

212637


Make sure you shake the rice buddy around. You don't want it to get hotspots from microwaving and burn the wee fella. There have been cases in the past.

[Gantheia]

Wow, he is a little one:Love_Icon...he needs to be fed every three hours round the clock.


PRECIOUS.......... :Love_Icon :Love_Icon :Love_Icon


Thank you two SO much for your advice. I am trying to ask friends for $ for GM >~< *facepalm* First thing in the morning, I am getting my money back from that pet store.

Here is another one for size comparison. Sorry about the blurriness, he does NOT like lights.

http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss75/gantheia/euclid010_zps5a7c3f56.jpg (http://s563.photobucket.com/user/gantheia/media/euclid010_zps5a7c3f56.jpg.html)

And here's another just because he's awesome sauce.
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[Gantheia]

Wow, he is a little one:Love_Icon...he needs to be fed every three hours round the clock.


He is sleeping nice thanks to your advice. I think I have enough $ now for some GM and yogurt.

I will be SURE to feed him every three hours. You're a life saver. Literally.

When can I pick up those supplies? Or if you want to drop them somewhere I can get them, whichever you prefer. <3

[Rhapsody]

Checking in...... how is our little one doing? Have you gotten the GM and yogurt yet?
I am in Lakeland and Jackie is in Tampa if you need our help. :Love_Icon

[HRT4SQRLS]

:wave123 Gantheia
I work in Temple Terrace (on the campus of USF). I can bring supplies tomorrow if you would like. I have FoxValley 32/40, proper syringes and nipples that I would be happy to share. You can start with the Goat milk formula and Jackie can tell you when to transition to the FV 32/40. If you are interested, send me a PM and I will give you contact information. In case I don't link up with you tonight, I will bring the supplies to work tomorrow, just in case. :thumbsup

Be VERY careful with that eye dropper!!! It is very easy to aspirate them (get fluid in their lungs) with an eye dropper. If that happens he will get pneumonia.

I am at work from 6:30 AM to 3:00 PM. If you could pick up the syringe/nipple during the day, it would be better than waiting until I get off work.

[Jackie in Tampa]

thank you ashton and grace for rescueing baby Euclid
everything fell into place....meant to be... thank you!
She's doing well with her new brothers.:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Gantheia]

Euclid is a street near my home...are you in south tampa?


:wave123 Gantheia
I work in Temple Terrace (on the campus of USF). I can bring supplies tomorrow if you would like. I have FoxValley 32/40, proper syringes and nipples that I would be happy to share. You can start with the Goat milk formula and Jackie can tell you when to transition to the FV 32/40. If you are interested, send me a PM and I will give you contact information. In case I don't link up with you tonight, I will bring the supplies to work tomorrow, just in case. :thumbsup

Be VERY careful with that eye dropper!!! It is very easy to aspirate them (get fluid in their lungs) with an eye dropper. If that happens he will get pneumonia.

I am at work from 6:30 AM to 3:00 PM. If you could pick up the syringe/nipple during the day, it would be better than waiting until I get off work.


Checking in...... how is our little one doing? Have you gotten the GM and yogurt yet?
I am in Lakeland and Jackie is in Tampa if you need our help. :Love_Icon


Hey everyone!

After seeing how wonderfully Jackie takes care of all her animals, I reluctantly gave little Euclid up.

She turned out to be a girl and I will miss her so dearly. As a student, I know this is the best thing for her. However, she was like my child for a day. I was surprised how quickly I became attached.

Thank you for all your wonderful help. I would recommend Jackie to anyone, she has a squirrel sanctuary over there.

After Euclid got fed, Jackie put her with some pinkie boys who she immediately snuggled up to and I knew I had made the right choice. My baby needs to be raised with other squirrels. I'm gonna visit often and bring organic vegetables.

<3
Glad I found this website and all of the amazing people on it!

[island rehabber]

Gantheia, you are a most wonderful, intelligent, loving person and I am so glad that you found us. You've done an extraordinary thing: rescued this tiny little being, kept her alive and safe and warm until you could bring her to probably the best squirrel person anywhere. You researched, you decided, and you followed through -- I predict that you will be a very happy, successful person for life. If only all squirrel finders were like you.

Someday, when you've finished school, if maybe you're working from home or even much later on when you've got the time, you might return to this feeling when you had little Euclid and become a wildlife rehabilitator. Jackie in Tampa will be still rehabbing, I'm sure, and she'll welcome the help. :grin2 :Love_Icon :thumbsup Great job!

[Garden71]

:bowdown Gantheia :bowdown

[MJS]

:bowdown Gantheia :bowdown

DITTO FROM HERE...HAPPY ENDING (BEGINNING)!!! :thumbsup

[Nancy in New York]

Hey everyone!

After seeing how wonderfully Jackie takes care of all her animals, I reluctantly gave little Euclid up.

She turned out to be a girl and I will miss her so dearly. As a student, I know this is the best thing for her. However, she was like my child for a day. I was surprised how quickly I became attached.

Thank you for all your wonderful help. I would recommend Jackie to anyone, she has a squirrel sanctuary over there.

After Euclid got fed, Jackie put her with some pinkie boys who she immediately snuggled up to and I knew I had made the right choice. My baby needs to be raised with other squirrels. I'm gonna visit often and bring organic vegetables.

<3
Glad I found this website and all of the amazing people on it!





As island rehabber said, you are one of the most amazing finders
to come on the board in a while.
You loved your little one enough to give her the best possible chance.
You put her first, thank you!:bowdown
She couldn't be in better hands. :Love_Icon

[jbtartell]

Hey everyone!

After seeing how wonderfully Jackie takes care of all her animals, I reluctantly gave little Euclid up.

She turned out to be a girl and I will miss her so dearly. As a student, I know this is the best thing for her. However, she was like my child for a day. I was surprised how quickly I became attached.

Thank you for all your wonderful help. I would recommend Jackie to anyone, she has a squirrel sanctuary over there.

After Euclid got fed, Jackie put her with some pinkie boys who she immediately snuggled up to and I knew I had made the right choice. My baby needs to be raised with other squirrels. I'm gonna visit often and bring organic vegetables.

<3
Glad I found this website and all of the amazing people on it!





awwwww what a happy ending/beginning for a baby girl whou now has 2 bothers and a wonderful caregiver.. Jackie.. you are right she is very good and your new baby is in wonderful hands.:Love_Icon

[Rhapsody]

Thank you for all your wonderful help.
I would recommend Jackie to anyone, she has a squirrel sanctuary over there.




You are singing to the Choir here.................. Jackie is the BEST!! :grin3
I LoVe visiting "Aunt Jackie's" place as often as I can...... :Love_Icon

[stepnstone]

Hey everyone!

After seeing how wonderfully Jackie takes care of all her animals, I reluctantly gave little Euclid up.

She turned out to be a girl and I will miss her so dearly. As a student, I know this is the best thing for her. However, she was like my child for a day. I was surprised how quickly I became attached.

Thank you for all your wonderful help. I would recommend Jackie to anyone, she has a squirrel sanctuary over there.

After Euclid got fed, Jackie put her with some pinkie boys who she immediately snuggled up to and I knew I had made the right choice. My baby needs to be raised with other squirrels. I'm gonna visit often and bring organic vegetables.

<3
Glad I found this website and all of the amazing people on it!






This is awesome! Really made my day! :thankyou :bowdown


Gantheia, you are a most wonderful, intelligent, loving person and I am so glad that you found us. You've done an extraordinary thing: rescued this tiny little being, kept her alive and safe and warm until you could bring her to probably the best squirrel person anywhere. You researched, you decided, and you followed through

Gantheia :grouphug

[virginia_arce2280]

Great story! I love reading these stories especially when they have a happy ending!
Jackie, I have a cousin now who lives in clearwater and whenever we go visit, we definitely want to come visit if that's okay. Would love to see your squirrel sanctuary!:thumbsup
Great job:thumbsup!:grin2

[Gantheia]

Gantheia, you are a most wonderful, intelligent, loving person and I am so glad that you found us. You've done an extraordinary thing: rescued this tiny little being, kept her alive and safe and warm until you could bring her to probably the best squirrel person anywhere. You researched, you decided, and you followed through -- I predict that you will be a very happy, successful person for life. If only all squirrel finders were like you.

Someday, when you've finished school, if maybe you're working from home or even much later on when you've got the time, you might return to this feeling when you had little Euclid and become a wildlife rehabilitator. Jackie in Tampa will be still rehabbing, I'm sure, and she'll welcome the help. :grin2 :Love_Icon :thumbsup Great job!



Thank you so much, this means a lot coming from the admin of the site. Squirrel daddy and I couldn't be happier that Euclid is safe. Your kind words give me hope. This site gives me hope. There are people out there who care for something other than themselves. Living in Tampa, it is rare to see. So THANK YOU and farewell for now. If I can ever be of service, please don't hesitate to contact me. Jackie has my number.



:bowdown Gantheia :bowdown


DITTO FROM HERE...HAPPY ENDING (BEGINNING)!!! :thumbsup



As island rehabber said, you are one of the most amazing finders
to come on the board in a while.
You loved your little one enough to give her the best possible chance.
You put her first, thank you!:bowdown
She couldn't be in better hands. :Love_Icon

awwwww what a happy ending/beginning for a baby girl whou now has 2 bothers and a wonderful caregiver.. Jackie.. you are right she is very good and your new baby is in wonderful hands.:Love_Icon


You are singing to the Choir here.................. Jackie is the BEST!! :grin3
I LoVe visiting "Aunt Jackie's" place as often as I can...... :Love_Icon


This is awesome! Really made my day! :thankyou :bowdown

Gantheia :grouphug


Great story! I love reading these stories especially when they have a happy ending!
Jackie, I have a cousin now who lives in clearwater and whenever we go visit, we definitely want to come visit if that's okay. Would love to see your squirrel sanctuary!:thumbsup
Great job:thumbsup!:grin2


Thank you to everyone. I came back to this thread and all of your love and group hugs and EVERYTHING made me all warm and fuzzy. What a great community you have all established on the interwebs! Like I said, it gives me hope for the future that we won't live in a selfish world but a world that will help innocent little helpless creatures because WE have the abilities and resources to! YAY GO SQUIRREL BOARD!!!!

[Gantheia]

Euclid is a street near my home...are you in south tampa?


Hey Jackie,
How is little Euclid doing?
Did she make it?
Is there anything I can do to help?
The farm will have its first harvest in a few weeks and I will bring as much as I can to your sanctuary.

LOVE~~

[Gantheia]

Hey Everyone!! I have another 2 baby squirrels in critical condition!! I am going to start a new forum but I lost the contact info for the Tampa Squirrel Lady I went to before. Please help!

[island rehabber]

If you are on Facebook, you can find her as Jackie Bedford.
I will alert another Tampa area member to come here, also, and hopefully help you.

EDIT: I just did it for you. Can you PM me your tel # or email so that I can pass it along?

[Sottinger]

I offered supplies... going to bed now. I hope these littles are safe and sound 💕

[island rehabber]

Update: reached JIT through FB, JIT called Gantheia (still had her number) and the babies are on their way to a rehabber safe and sound.

:serene

[dr3am]

It's amazing to me to see all the love, care and effort that goes into helping lost babies get back on a path to their homes again...all of ya'll are so awesome :blowkiss