Maggie has hurt her eye - Help

[sassysquirrel]

Maggie has hurt her eye. I noticed it this afternoon.
I wiped it with a warm rag. She definitely has pain in
it. Everytime I touched he she fussed like she was in
pain.

I checked on her just a few minutes ago. Her eye
is turning white. I wiped it again with a warm rag.
It is still hurting her. I have just know given her some
childrens motrin for the pain.

What do I need to do?
Is there anything I can put on her eye?
Can I give her some pain medicine?
Do I need to bring her inside?
Do I need to seperate her and Ace?
Do I take her to the vet? Will that stress her too much?

She is in the release cage with Ace. I was going to
release them this fall. He is a little bigger than her.
They play all the time. Ace is always grabbing her
from behind. Maybe he could of have scratched her
eye with one of his nails??? Also there is some fresh
and old tree cuttings in the cage. She could of possibly
hurt her eye on one of them.

She is in pain. What can I do?
Can't stand to see her hurting.

[sassysquirrel]

She is 6 months old. She is small for her age.
I don't know how much she weighs. There is
no way I can hold still enough to weigh her.

[stepnstone]

I would flush her eye with a sterile saline solution,
flushing from the outside toward her nose.
Then use a topical ophthaimic antibiotic ointment. (without steroids)

[sassysquirrel]

I would flush her eye with a sterile saline solution,
flushing from the outside toward her nose.
Then use a topical ophthaimic antibiotic ointment. (without steroids)


Where can I get the ophthaimic antiboitic ointment?

[stepnstone]

Where can I get the ophthaimic antiboitic ointment?


All drug stores should carry some brand of it,
if your not sure what your looking at/for ask the pharmacist.
Like putting neosporin on a cut, Ophthaimic just means it's used/safe for the eyes.

[stepnstone]

You may also want to consider bringing her back in to get her out of any bright light until it has a chance to heal.
If it is a scratch or any irritation for that matter light is just going to irritate it even more.

[CritterMom]

All drug stores should carry some brand of it,
if your not sure what your looking at/for ask the pharmacist.
Like putting neosporin on a cut, Ophthaimic just means it's used/safe for the eyes.

Neosporin actually makes its product in an opthalmic version.

[Jackie in Tampa]

hoping it's a minor irritated eye and she feels better soon... I scratched my eye recently {a sq did it}
it hurt for two days non stop.. mean pain, but day three was as if nothing had happened...eyes heal fast...
hoping that is all it is.

[sassysquirrel]

What about some pain meds?

[Jackie in Tampa]

What about some pain meds?
why not!:thumbsup tramadol would be great...ibuprofen too...
is she still squinty?

[Starfish]

Does polysporin eye drops have seroids in it? The also have the eye formula in an ointment form rather than liquid drops. Ask your pharmacist. It should be behind the counter.

[sassysquirrel]

Just know took these after I brought her inside.

The eye seems to look a little better - not as
squinty

Does not seem to be as painful. But she still
has pain.

I flushed it and put on eye oniment on it.
I also gave her some more ibuprofen.

She seems to be ok with coming back inside.
She is probably glad to get away from Ace:grin3

[Starfish]

When dealing with eyes, be very cautious. They're precious.

Mother-hen style warning:
Also, pay attention for signs of allergic reaction to whatever treatment you give. I've had this happen in kittens to veterinary prescribed eye meds. Unfortunaly, in my situation, one little guy list an eye (very extreme situation... He had a major reaction to the meds) but his sacrifice saved both his brother's eyes (we were better prepared for the signs and symptoms of the allergic reaction).

It's always best to get professional help. However, here is some info to guide you....


Yahoo! Answers- Dog’s Eye Turnign white:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090331030329AAPsKGu


All About Vision – CommonEye Discorders
http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/eye-disorders.htm

Eye Infections and Injuries in Horses
http://horses.about.com/od/diseasesandillness/a/eyeproblems.htm

14 Things Your Eyes Say About Your Health
http://health.yahoo.net/caring/14-things-your-eyes-say-about-your-health

[TubeDriver]

Looks like great info above^^^^^^^^^^!


Keeping fingers crossed for little Maggie.

[Starfish]

Not to torture you little one, can you get a closer shot of your little pne's eye?

I'm really concerned that she could end up with something similar as my little guy years ago. Not to scare you, there's no guarantees either way; I'm just concerned..... My kitten developed a coat (scab) over his eye and (keeping in mind that cats have two sets of eyelids) his inner eye lid ended up sealing shut. It's different for a squirrel about the eyelids but I still worry. You don't want it to develop a scab on top of its eye.

Sorry, don't want to freak you out. Can't remain silent in concerns either....

[jbtartell]

I have eye drop abs.. I will send you in the morning.. just do what we talked about and you should see a difference with in it in a few days use a warm wet cloth to keep it clean.. you can us the drops when you get them even if there is improvement.

[sassysquirrel]

Maggie's eye seems worse.

Not bad swelling or squinty.

But cloudy and dry.

I flush it gently with sterlie saline and put some eye oniment on it. Flushing it with the saline and onimnet seemed to feel good to her. She is still have pain.

I am so worried about her. It does not seem she has any sight in the eye.

Please let me know what I should do.

I have also started her on AB's - TMS oral

These are pics from just 15 minutes ago

***also picked up 2 pinkies from a hawk attack. 1 has already died :( Working on warming the other one up. The guy left them out this afternoon to reunite with the mom but she did not comeback.

[sassysquirrel]

These pics were taken before the eye flush and oinment

[MollyBear361]

poor baby, I wonder why her eye is turning white??? Isn't that usually a sign of blindness....HUGS and PRAYERS :Love_Icon

[Nancy in New York]

The morning shots of her, I noticed the same thing, a whitish haze over the eye.
Can you get her to a vet?
I will direct Jackie to this thread tomorrow.
I have no idea what to do, I would go to my vet, but that too can be stressful.
Let's see what Jackie says.

[sassysquirrel]

Was thinking the same thing. I am going to try and get
her to the vet tomorrow. Calling first thing in the morning. Hope the vet can work her in.

It just hurts me to see her hurting. She is just so sweet. Even after I do all that to her eye. She still wants me to love on her.

[TubeDriver]

:( :( Poor little Maggie. The sudden onset and whiteness could mean retina detachment. If so, she would need surgery ASAP.

[jbtartell]

this looks and sounds like corneal oedema.

http://www.ehow.com/way_5409830_corneal-edema-treatments.html

[jbtartell]

here are some pics
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-900-1&va=corneal+oedema

[jbtartell]

she could have scratched it and caused damage or infection.. when my eyes got messed up from the surgery my cornea was damaged.. and well abs were given and drops..

[sassysquirrel]

These are from today - the first few are before
eye wash and oinment - and the last few are after.

She still has some pain when touching her eye.
The dryness looks much much better. But other
than that things look the same.

Could not get her in the vet today. She has appt tomorrow at 10

***The 2 pinkies I picked up late last night did not make it :(

[sassysquirrel]

forgot one

[jbtartell]

Awww poor Maggie... and eye drops are on the way.. with shells..lol :grin3 get her into the vet also he may give you something better.. plus to be sure I am right but I am 99%sure this is what it is..:grouphug

[Nancy in New York]

Robin do you have Maggie on antibiotics. That whole eye area looks swollen.
You can see it especially good in the second to last picture.
Poor baby.
So very sorry about the pinkies. :Love_Icon



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[jbtartell]

here is what my vet friend said about this.. she asked to pass it on to you Robin..

hope this helps you and Maggie..


Bringing maggie out of bright light is the correct thing as it will reduce the pain. She can also try oral pain meds (NSAIDS like petcam will be ok for short term use, tramadol may also help but can cause sedation)

She needs to see a vet. Fluorescein dye will easily detect corneal ulcers or scratches. If Maggie has glaucoma and your friend waits any longer to go to the vet, the treatment will only be for pain relief. If there is corneal oedema but no scratches/ulcers, eye drops with steroids can resolve the corneal oedema but if the underlying cause does not resolved, the oedema will return after meds are stopped.

Corneal oedema can cause loss of vision because it prevents light from getting in to the eye. This is reversible if the oedema resolves. Glaucoma wrecks the retina... loss of vision quickly becomes permanent.


You can pass this on to her.

First off, this is not retinal detachment or cataract. I agree with you that it is corneal oedema (you may spell it odema too). Corneal oedema is caused by water getting through the membranes and collecting between the cells of the cornea.

It can be caused by;
1. scratches or foreign bodies on the cornea (claws, wire, plant material, dust, etc.)

2. infections. Not only eye infections. Systemic infection (especially viruses) can cause changes that result in corneal oedema.

3. Glaucoma. This causes painful cloudy eyes and if untreated, or treated to late, permanent blindness. Permanent blindness may develop within 24 hrs of first clinical signs. If this is the problem ythen the other eye is also at risk.

4. anterior uveitis. This is an inflammation inside the front chamber of the eye (between the cornea and the iris). it can be caused by eye infections or injuries as well as systemic infections

[sassysquirrel]

Robin do you have Maggie on antibiotics. That whole eye area looks swollen.
You can see it especially good in the second to last picture.
Poor baby.
So very sorry about the pinkies. :Love_Icon



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I do have her on AB's started them yesterday
TMS oral - what I had left over with Precious

This pic was also taken after the eye wash and oinment - so her hair is slicked down. But yes it is swollen.

Have vet appt in the morning at 10am


***Also hoping to get to talk to Dr Hendershott about Precious. Georgia and I sent her videos, pics and x-rays

[Starfish]

Robin do you have Maggie on antibiotics. That whole eye area looks swollen.
You can see it especially good in the second to last picture.
Poor baby.
So very sorry about the pinkies. :Love_Icon



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The swollen eye makes me suspect infection. Similar to my kitten years ago. On the plus side, it if that equerry he case,it shouldn't require surgery. Meds and diligent care.

... Or cataract....

If course, only the vet will be able to diagnose.

PlEase keep us informed.

[sassysquirrel]

Pics of Maggie from tonight

[farrelli]

Beautiful little girl! If she's hurt too bad, I'll bet that she has a wonderful forever home that she really loves. :Love_Icon

[Nancy in New York]

Little Maggie is looking more like a little Fluffer.....:poke:grin

[TubeDriver]

What a cute little squirrel. I really hope she heals and can recover her eyesite. :grouphug

[sassysquirrel]

Back from the vet.

She said she does have a injury/scratch to her eye.
She thinks is will be ok with meds
She thinks she will heal completely - might (emphasis might) have a small white spot on eye - but feels like it will not impair her vision
Vet thinks with the meds Maggie will have dramatic impovement in the next couple of days.

Maggie goes back to the vet on Friday

These are the meds she gave
Tobramycin Ophthalmic Solution USP 0.3% 4 times a day
Remend Corneal Repair drops - 6 times a day

[sassysquirrel]

Back from the vet.

She said she does have a injury/scratch to her eye.
She thinks is will be ok with meds
She thinks she will heal completely - might (emphasis might) have a small white spot on eye - but feels like it will not impair her vision
Vet thinks with the meds Maggie will have dramatic impovement in the next couple of days.

Maggie goes back to the vet on Friday

These are the meds she gave
Tobramycin Ophthalmic Solution USP 0.3% 4 times a day
Remend Corneal Repair drops - 6 times a day

Forgot to add
Maggie was so good at the vet today.
She did not have to be sedated or anything.
I held her and held her eye open while they examed
her and put all the meds and dyes in.
She was such a good little girl. I really did not
expect her to be that good:Love_Icon

She came home took a little nap. Just woke up and
ate some veggies and back inside her sack for another
nap.

[MJS]

:thumbsup GOOD NEWS!!! HOPE SHE'S FEELING BETTER TODAY.

[TubeDriver]

Yippee! Maggie get better soon! :crazy:)

[Squirrel Girls Mom]

Get well soon, sweet little Maggie!! :Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[sassysquirrel]

Pics from last night and today

I think her eye is looking a little better

[Nancy in New York]

The swelling has gone down a lot.
Did she go to the vet. I have been somewhat out
of touch lately.:tilt

[sassysquirrel]

The swelling has gone down a lot.
Did she go to the vet. I have been somewhat out
of touch lately.:tilt

Yes I did. The vet put her on

Tobramycin Ophthalmic Solution USP 0.3% 4 times a day
Remend Corneal Repair drops - 6 times a day

[Kristin Ward]

:grouphugMaggie:grouphugRobin:grouphug

[TubeDriver]

Maggie! :Love_Icon:grouphug

[jbtartell]

Ok soo now I see how she is doing...lol soo what does she have in her food bowl mmm looks colorful and good.. just curious.. always trying to get new things for my babies..lol I wish I could smooch that little eye.. I knew as soon as I seen it what it was just could not remember the name.. it is common with squirrels I have seen several including one of my own get this..soo glad you caught it early robin..

[MJS]

:wave123 LOVE MAGGIE...SHE'S SUCH A GOOD GIRL. SO GLAD SHE'S DOING BETTER!!! :tilt :Love_Icon

[TubeDriver]

Keep getting better little Maggie! :grouphug

[sassysquirrel]

Maggie's eye looks worse today.

I am calling the vet tomorrow and see if she can see her.

This afternoon it was a little dry, but seemed to get better

Tonight it had a dry film on it . It was loose and came off.
It also looks swollen and red.

She still has pain in it also.

Her eye was supposed to be much better by now.

?????????????

[Unikorngrrl]

Poor girl!! :Love_Icon

[TubeDriver]

:( :( Poor Maggie.

[MJS]

:grouphug :Love_Icon :Love_Icon :Love_Icon :grouphug

[kastillo]

This happened to one of my 6 week old, I think another baby tried nursing his eye and got it with a tooth. It got thick and cloudy looking, I gave internal AB's and topical ointment, but eventually the body reabsorbed it. I hope this does not happen to Maggie's eye, but there are a lot of happy one eyed squirrels out there. Popeye is no different from the other babies, well, actually he's faster! But happy as can be.
211940
Get well Maggie.

[sassysquirrel]

Need help!!!!!!!

My vet is calling a exotic vet. She does not know what else to do. Maggie's eye is worse.

She is continuing with tobramycin drops
But not sure on any other medications

Maggie was not a good patient today. She did not want the vet looking at her. She got spooked and jumped. The when I was trying to get her - she bit me - really hard - and continued to try and bite me.

Does she need to be on oral AB's or anything else??????pain meds?????different drops????

Please HELP!

will post pics from this afternoon in a few minutes

[jbtartell]

Need help!!!!!!!

My vet is calling a exotic vet. She does not know what else to do. Maggie's eye is worse.

She is continuing with tobramycin drops
But not sure on any other medications

Maggie was not a good patient today. She did not want the vet looking at her. She got spooked and jumped. The when I was trying to get her - she bit me - really hard - and continued to try and bite me.

Does she need to be on oral AB's or anything else??????pain meds?????different drops????

Please HELP!

will post pics from this afternoon in a few minutes

umm wwhat... why did you not call me.. she may be having a allergic reaction to drops.. yes keep her on abs.. she has to get them time to work. Robin she will be ok just got to get her on the right meds.. have you got what I sent yet? kiss her nose for me.. :grouphug

[jbtartell]

This happened to one of my 6 week old, I think another baby tried nursing his eye and got it with a tooth. It got thick and cloudy looking, I gave internal AB's and topical ointment, but eventually the body reabsorbed it. I hope this does not happen to Maggie's eye, but there are a lot of happy one eyed squirrels out there. Popeye is no different from the other babies, well, actually he's faster! But happy as can be.
211940
Get well Maggie.

I had one named popeye..lol and released him he lived for 3 years before I moved and like you said he was better than a normal squirrel.. he was still alive when I moved..:grin2

[sassysquirrel]

pics from today

[Starfish]

Utltimately, not matter what happens to the eye, she'll be ok. She's young enough and will adapt. It will be her new normal.

[SammysMom]

:grouphug:Love_IconMaggie:Love_Icon:grouphug

[TubeDriver]

Poor Maggie! She only bit you because she was scared. I hope the eye can be saved, the ABs can require several days before they start to work. Poor little thing. :(

[sassysquirrel]

Can anyone help?

Any suggestions???

[jbtartell]

Utltimately, not matter what happens to the eye, she'll be ok. She's young enough and will adapt. It will be her new normal.

yes she will.. you will see:thumbsup:Love_Icon

[jbtartell]

Poor Maggie! She only bit you because she was scared. I hope the eye can be saved, the ABs can require several days before they start to work. Poor little thing. :(

ABS will work soon just keep her on them..

[SammysMom]

She is taking oral ABs, right? What is she taking?

[sassysquirrel]

I am still needing help

I need to know what to reccomend to my vet tomorrow

The only thing Maggie is on right now is the AB eye drops and tramadol.

If AB's orally need to be given. I need to know which one. Or if to change the eye drops.

I really don't want her to loose her eye

[jbtartell]

go you all the info.. pm u now hope it helps...

[jbtartell]

this is what my vet friend says,


In this picture it seems like a deep corneal ulcer. These take longer to heal..
Scratches on the cornea heal fairly quickly. Deep corneal ulcers are a different story, they can take many weeks to heal and are very painful. There is the additional risk of a ruptured eye ball which would, of course, cause loss of sight in the eye.

Deep ulcers can be caused by injury, infection or prolonged corneal oedema. If film she saw come off the eye maybe discharge from the eye, but it could also be the surface of the cornea. If the cells of the cornea lose the strong attachments that hold cells together then the cells may slough off. This does not necessarily cause permanent damage but deep corneal ulcers can cause scarring and vision loss.

I'm not sure I would use a sulfa drug like TMS as that drug can affect teat production later on in life and Maggie is starting off with eye trouble. If she can she should switch to a different AB (norfloxacin should be ok and can be used in young animals if used for less than 1 week... how old is Maggie?)

The sloughing of the cornea (if that is, in fact, what has happened), can be the original problem getting worse, or it may be a reaction to the eye drops.

It is difficult to tell from that picture if it truly is an ulcer or if it is just the light on the eye. The vet would have to see her. There are many things that can be done to treat deep ulcers but all of them take a long time. If Maggie has not been to both an exotic vet and a veterinary ophthalmologist as yet, I suggest she get there as soon as possible.

[Squirrel Girls Mom]

Robin, keep us updated on sweet little Maggie. Let us know if you get her in to an exotic vet or a veterinary ophthalmologist.

:Love_Icon:Love_Icon Prayers for Maggie :Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[kastillo]

If something works for maggie, I'd like to know if I could have saved Popeye's eye, or my little maggy who has a bad eye as well.

Keep a log of everything you do for her. Maybe you will find a procedure that works. That would be very helpful to other rehabbers.

[SammysMom]

Might the vet be able to culture the eye to see what or if bacteria is present?

[Starfish]

this sounds a lot like what happened to my kittens back in the day. Polysporin wasn't strong enough and They had an allergic reaction to the two most comply prescribed drops by vets. There were two others that worked. Let me me read watch and get back to you. What kind of eyedrops are you giving?

[Starfish]

Ok, so, one of the 'good ones' was bnp by vetoquinal.
http://www.drugs.com/vet/bnp-ophthalmic-ointment-can.html

I think there was one I preferred to it but vet switched to bnp when they ran out if the other (racking my brain to remember)... There was a generalized shortage of my preferred one at the time. I believe bnp is essentially polysporin plus one additional ingredient (if memory serves)

[sassysquirrel]

this is what she is currently on

Tobramycin Ophthalmic Solution USP 0.3% 4 times a day

also she is on tramadol for pain


I have call into vet right now about changing the AB eye drops and putting her on oral AB's

Any suggestions on anti-inflamatory medicine?

Will post pics of her eye from today in a few minutes

[sassysquirrel]

Ok, so, one of the 'good ones' was bnp by vetoquinal.
http://www.drugs.com/vet/bnp-ophthalmic-ointment-can.html

I think there was one I preferred to it but vet switched to bnp when they ran out if the other (racking my brain to remember)... There was a generalized shortage of my preferred one at the time. I believe bnp is essentially polysporin plus one additional ingredient (if memory serves)


thank you I will mention this to my vet when she calls me back

Thank you so much

[sassysquirrel]

Robin, keep us updated on sweet little Maggie. Let us know if you get her in to an exotic vet or a veterinary ophthalmologist.

:Love_Icon:Love_Icon Prayers for Maggie :Love_Icon:Love_Icon


I will. I am so worried about her right now. I just don't want her to loose her eye or her sight in that eye.

If she does, I really don't want to release her if she looses her eye or eye sight

[sassysquirrel]

Pics from today.

The last couple are not that good.
She does seem to feel better today.
She was wanting to play. When she
wants to play - she will not be still

Luckly no more bites or attempts.
She was a little snipping last night
but not today

[Starfish]

Ok so.... I called my vet and here's the info I have for you:

-:sanp3 Tetracycline/terramycin is what my cat originally reacted to. It's one of the most popular ones but it's not uncommon to have an allergic reaction to.
-:sanp3 Chloramphenicol my cats also reacted badly to.

:grin2 Pentamycetin; their notes weren't detailed about. They knew we had switched off but it's wasn't clear why. In Google searching the image, I believe that was the one that did work for my cat but ended up having a shortage so we were forced to switch. I remember it was one made by Sandoz (which pentamycetin is). Being swithced due to shortage would explain the vet's lack of detailed notes. (Shortage list from that time period seems to support that this is the mysetery drops that seemed to be working https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.canadiangenerics.ca%2Fen%2Fad vocacy%2Fdocs%2FCGPADrugShortagelistdec82011.xls&ei=--4LUo3aLLSx4AO7mIHQDg&usg=AFQjCNH-Jc4frEWG9Wrz8Bm9jFUQCV7RVg&sig2=Xk3NY9ApG8Hxve77FcajlQ&bvm=bv.50723672,d.dmg)

:grin2 BNP was on the good list in terms that might cats didn't react negatively to it but it didn't seem as effective (strong enough) as the one they were forced off of due to shortage (which I believe to be pentamycetin).

Finally, we tried :grin2 Gentocin when both BNP and the other good one (likely pentamycetin) were in shortage. That one worked as well.

That's it; that's all i got

[Starfish]

either way, your vet should know these products... you can ask which ones are least known to have had issues and be effective. I believe that, by the time we got to trying gentocin, I was asking my vet these types of questions and she said that, the ones my cats reacted to, it wasn't unheard of for the animal to react to but that she would be really suriprised if they reacted to gentocin (I think)...

just ask if (s)he's heard of negative reactions to some more than others

[jbtartell]

try these.. they work.. I knew you would get it this way...lol one it drops the other is ointment..

[sassysquirrel]

Ok so.... I called my vet and here's the info I have for you:

-:sanp3 Tetracycline/terramycin is what my cat originally reacted to. It's one of the most popular ones but it's not uncommon to have an allergic reaction to.
-:sanp3 Chloramphenicol my cats also reacted badly to.

:grin2 Pentamycetin; their notes weren't detailed about. They knew we had switched off but it's wasn't clear why. In Google searching the image, I believe that was the one that did work for my cat but ended up having a shortage so we were forced to switch. I remember it was one made by Sandoz (which pentamycetin is). Being swithced due to shortage would explain the vet's lack of detailed notes.

:grin2 BNP was on the good list in terms that might cats didn't react negatively to it but it didn't seem as effective (strong enough) as the one they were forced off of due to shortage (which I believe to be pentamycetin).

Finally, we tried :grin2 Gentocin when both BNP and the other good one (likely pentamycetin) were in shortage. That one worked as well.

That's it; that's all i got


Thank you so much. I will give this information to my vet.

:thankyou:thankyou:thankyou

[Mochi&Mocha]

try these.. they work.. I knew you would get it this way...lol one it drops the other is ointment..


Mocha had what looked like the same thing as a baby, she scratched her eye when she had a head tilt due to an ear infection. This ointment helped! She has partial site when we didn't thinks she would have any.

[Starfish]

try these.. they work.. I knew you would get it this way...lol one it drops the other is ointment..

I think this basically BNP (each letter stands for an ingredient) from another company the vetoquinol.

http://www.catalog.md/drugs/bnp.html

Which would mean you now have two votes on that one

my only issue for my kitten was that it seem quite strong enough... it seemed like one step above polysporin drops but i needed to be two steps above.

[jbtartell]

I say this with the abs I listed below will do the trick... hit from the inside and the out..:poke:Love_Icon:grouphug:thumbsup

[Starfish]

Good point. Yes, my kittens had to take oral antibiotics at the same time. Was absolutely heartbreaking. On the plus side, I've always kept syringes on hand since. Very useful when we found baby squirrels.

Interesting links... there's none for squirrels specifically though.... Drugs by animal category (as what works on a cat may not for another species)
http://www.catalog.md/drugs-categories/wild-miscellaneous.html

[sassysquirrel]

Ok finally talked to the vet.
This is what she wants to do. After talking to a vet opthamolgist(?)

Put Maggie on oral AB Clavamox or she can give her a shot of Convenia. The shot of Convenia will last for 14 days.

The vet also wants to change the AB eye drops. Don't remember the big name she used - but it was not BNP - I don't think? The AB eye drops she can't get until Friday. They will have to be ordered


Please let me know what you think
I will need to know asap - she has a appt in the morning

Should Maggie get the shot?
Clavamox? or something else?

[Starfish]

Ok finally talked to the vet.
This is what she wants to do. After talking to a vet opthamolgist(?)

Put Maggie on oral AB Clavamox or she can give her a shot of Convenia. The shot of Convenia will last for 14 days.

The vet also wants to change the AB eye drops. Don't remember the big name she used - but it was not BNP - I don't think? The AB eye drops she can't get until Friday. They will have to be ordered


Please let me know what you think
I will need to know asap - she has a appt in the morning

Should Maggie get the shot?
Clavamox? or something else?


I don't know the shot; I think the kittens got clavamox. and eventually prednisone as well. Someone else with squireel experience should chime in.

Try to find out what the big name of eye ointment was. I'm thinking it's likely tetracycline (one of the ones on my bad list). That said, there's also a lot of good feedback for it too. Just pay close attention. if they eye gets worse or doesn't improve at all within 2-3 days call back and get something else.

[Starfish]

for the shot, ask if there are risks. How effective is it? It might be nice to not have to dose out 2-3 times a day.

[sassysquirrel]

Hoping someone will chime in on the shot or the oral AB.

I don't know what to do???????

Need advice on what to do

:thankyou

[jbtartell]

I would vote for oral.. a squirrels metabolism is really high. it would be less than 14 days.. what does vet say?

[sassysquirrel]

I would vote for oral.. a squirrels metabolism is really high. it would be less than 14 days.. what h does vet say?




The vet said it was up to me. She said she could give the shot of convenia or clavamox orally


I think this is the same shot that the 1st vet gave Precious before she came to me. Someone else said the same thing. It would not stay in a squirrels system for 14 days.

I am thinking about going with the clavamox.

What do you think?

[SammysMom]

That is what Precious had and it was said that you were lucky if it lasted 6 days due to the fast metabolism of a squirrel. Good luck to Maggie tomorrow...:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[sassysquirrel]

Pics from tonight.

Some of the pics she is squinting her eye. It
is not swollen shut. There is a couple where
you can see her eye.

She felt much better today. She played most
of the day. She did take some naps off and on.
She was sleeping a lot.

[TubeDriver]

The downsides to a single injection AB dose is that if she has a bad reaction to the shot there is not much you can do. Also, if no progress is made then it just runs its course.

I think she should have both topical and systemic ABs. I would go for a oral, daily dose AB plus AB cream plus anything else te vet recommended (ie pain meds, anti inflammatory etc).


Fingers crossed for Maggie!

[jbtartell]

yes that is what my friend just said that you cant take the shot back if they have a bad reaction...:goodpost:grin2

[lilidukes]

Sassy I have an adult squirrel named Puffy who is
blind in both eyes now. His left eye got infected
and very swollen a few days ago. I've been using
erythromycin ophthalmic ointment in the eye 2 times
a day with no other ab's and this morning all the redness
and swelling is gone. Wishing I had gotten a picture of
just how bad it looked a few days ago. Just wanted to
share this with you. I've been lurking and watching
Maggies progress.:grouphug:grouphug

[jbtartell]

:poke:pokewaiting:poke for good news:poke:Love_Icon

[Jackie in Tampa]

I'm with Laura...waiting for good news...:Love_Icon

[Nancy in New York]

I;m waiting with Laura and Jackie for GOOD news.
:Love_Icon Maggie :Love_Icon

[jbtartell]

robin called me yesterday and said the dr gave her the abs and she is getting new drops.. she will have to say what they are- as we know I have a horrible memory and would hate to get it wrong..:grin3 but she said little Maggie is acting as if she is feeling better, which is good news.. lets hope the abs work..:thumbsup

[MJS]

COME ON LITTLE MAGGIE GIRL...GET WELL!!! YOU HAVE SOOOOO MANY PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT YOU!!! :Love_Icon :Love_Icon :Love_Icon

[sassysquirrel]

Sorry everyone. Just know getting on the computer.

As of today Maggie'e eye is not better or seems to be no worse.

She is currently on the Clavamox oral AB and tramadol.
Just now got the eye drops from the pharmacy. They
did not have them until today. They are Ciproflacin eye drops.

Hoping so bad this will work. Vet said should know in the next 2-3 days.

Thank you everyone!!!!!


*****Just found more baby bunnies in the backyard. They are very tiny. Looks like Daisy is going to have babies any day also. Rosie is showing no signs of being pregnant ----- yet

[TubeDriver]

Keeping fingers crossed!

[sassysquirrel]

Maggie's eye from yesterday.

To me it looks the same - no better but not worse.

Hoping these AB's kick in soon.

She is definitely feeling better. She has made several
tissue nests. She still loves to play. She entertains herself
really well.

[Jackie in Tampa]

sassy...this is a new one on me... will be interesting to see how the Cipro drops do... I have used several eye meds but not this one.
Good Nutrition def will help with the outcome...and you know I have to push probiotics...they are the avenue to good health... all nutrition comes from the gut...
DrOhirra's Probiotics is good stuff for all mammals.
Maggie & Sassy:Love_Icon

[TubeDriver]

:grouphug

[Nancy in New York]

Just checking in on the little patient.
Many prayers being sent for a full recovery
for precious Maggie.:Love_Icon
I wished I could help, but have no experience
with eye problems, or drops, :(
so I am sending tons of prayers.212416212416212416

[sassysquirrel]

Wendell and I both think that Maggie's eye
looks a little better today.

She still is feeling better. Still works on her tissue nests.
Still wanting to play.

Thanks everyone. Still hoping for the best.

[MJS]

:thumbsup :Love_Icon MAGGIE :Love_Icon

[Squirrel Girls Mom]

:Love_Icon :grouphug :Love_Icon

[TubeDriver]

Wendell and I both think that Maggie's eye
looks a little better today.

She still is feeling better. Still works on her tissue nests.
Still wanting to play.

Thanks everyone. Still hoping for the best.


Squirrels are amazingly tough. I hope she heals up. Maggie! :grouphug

[sassysquirrel]

I really think Maggie's eye is getting better.

Here are a few pics. She is squinting in all of them
but I do think her eye looks better.

She is still feeling good - still wants to play and making
new tissues nests

[SammysMom]

Squinting may mean that she is seeing more light than she was. So glad she is feeling better!:Love_Icon

[TubeDriver]

I so hope that Maggie gets better! Keep on with the meds and will keep fingers crossed.

[jbtartell]

yes she is looking better..yayyy I am soo glad her eye is not as hazy as it was.. big turnaround..:thumbsup great job robin:grin3

[sassysquirrel]

Maggie'e eye from today

I really think it is getting better

[TubeDriver]

I am so happy for you and Maggie! I hope she continues to get better and that her vision is not too bad after all this.

[MJS]

SHE LOOKS GOOD...PRETTY LITTLE GIRL!!!! :thumbsup

[jbtartell]

yayyyyy it is getting better, just remember stay on the abs.. even if it looks totally healed.. this type eye problem will come back if you remove her too soon..

[TubeDriver]

yayyyyy it is getting better, just remember stay on the abs.. even if it looks totally healed.. this type eye problem will come back if you remove her too soon..

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[stepnstone]

Her eye really does look better, not so cloudy. :highfive

[jbtartell]

Ok now we need a update... ;0)

[sassysquirrel]

Maggie went to the vet today.

The vet said she is 85-90% better.
The vet was very happy. She was not expecting
Maggie to be this much better. She thinks she
will regain full vision - so she can be released.
Even when she put the stain in her eye - nothing showed
up. Her eye is still a little cloudy - but it will continue to heal
over the next few days. The vet was surprised how well
Maggie has done.
I am supposed to continue the oral AB's until gone.
Also to continue eyes drops for 7 more days.
Only give tramadol if needed.

:fireworks:fireworks

[TubeDriver]

:crazy:crazy:crazy:crazy:grin2:thumbsup

[farrelli]

Awesome! :)

[sassysquirrel]

Maggie's eye from the last couple of days.

Her eye looks more white in the pics than it does to me.

[SammysMom]

:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[TubeDriver]

Sweet little Maggie!:Love_Icon. Do you know how her eyesight is from that eye? Does she use it or does she rely on her other eye?

[sassysquirrel]

Some pics of Maggie from today. Her eye looks much better.
I am almost sure she has regained some sight back in her eye.
She is looking good. I am planning on releasing her later this fall.

[TubeDriver]

She does look much better. :thumbsup. She is a cute little thing.


Does she always face you from one side or does she alternate sides? That might tell you how much she can rely on her injured eye.