SEIZURE: POSSIBLE POISONING! HELP NEEDED ASAP

[magna]

10 mo old grey. HHB 2 a day. Nuts dusted with calcium carbonate. Veggies, fruit,excellent diet. Three days ago started to have seizures. First one 5+ minutes. Then they got progressively longer. Def not MBD blood calcium 13.3 complete blood work up. Glucose was at 191. This squirrel has been with me since furred baby. Tried release he wouldn't go. No known injuries. No known toxins. Liver and pancreas elevated, white blood count normal. Vet advised glucose not high enough to worry about diabetic seizure. All values were compared to rat. The FL study on labs are consistant with theirs. I am at a loss. Physical exam under anesthesia showed no cuts or abrasions. No ray as everything is responding and functioning as it should. I feel like everything is consistant with diabetic episode because of pancreas issue. Gets same diet as two NR we have that are several years old. Same type cages etc.

[MollyBear361]

:Love_Iconprayers.....

[SugarBlossoms]

I'm obviously not a squirrel but I am a diabetic. (have been all my life, I am 50) From everything you've stated, I tend to think your squirrel may be diabetic. If it were me, I would look for another vet that specializes in endoctronology for animals. Normally, 70 to 120 is considered in the normal BS range, however, if MINE were to drop in that range, I would drop to the floor. Everyone is different including animals.

In the meantime, I would pull back on feeding fruit or much of anything sweet for a few days to see if your baby seems better and the seizures stop. I am not familiar with your squirrel but am wondering if there is a reason you add or were told to add calcium to the nuts? I am asking because I have a sugar glider that will have seizures if she gets under stress of any kind such as bright lighting or is scared and needs a calcium boost to bring up her blood sugar. (yes, I said that right) :)

Good luck with your baby and I pray all gets well FAST! :)

[farrelli]

I'll PM Jackie in Tampa so that she can check out the thread in the morning. She gets up early and has seen just about everything.

[Rhapsody]

I would have suggested some molasses on the gums to make sure the blood level was up and then a dose of calcium via a crush tums --but you are saying that you do not feel this is due to low calcium, Hmmmm......... trying to think. :thinking:thinking:thinking

[Unikorngrrl]

I'll PM Jackie in Tampa so that she can check out the thread in the morning. She gets up early and has seen just about everything.
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[magna]

Ok Pickles is hanging in there still. Here is alittle more background. He is 300g and was healthy as could be. He started to ignore his HHB about two weeks ago. I was giving him fresh Cherries as part of his diet, two sometimes up to four a day and after moving him to a heated aquarium, last night when returning from the vet, I checked and there were not many pits under his pen. The others spit them out within a few moments, basically pitting the cherry as we would do.
He shows about 80% of the symptoms of cyanide glycoside poisoning, less the vomiting. I did get valium, baytril, and some metacam in him this morning and he didn't seize when I touched him, which he did yesterday. I also got a half pill of milk thistle and aprox 5-6cc of 100% apple juice in him. He got a SQ of 15cc LR yesterday about 4pm. He is very lethargic which I would expect from valium but he does fuss and chatter when he is disturbed, so this is good. His eyes are clear (healthy), no tears, he has bitten through his lips when seizing and his cornea's are ulcerated due to abrasion so he is getting drops. This little guy will not be handled peacefully so this is a big adventure. Many thanks to those of you that have responded.
I am trying to locate some Hydroxocobalimin to inject him with, no luck yet. Worse case scenario he will have lots of B12 in his system, best case it will start to convert cyanide to cyanocobalimine and he will heal if it is poisoning as I suspect. I will keep everyone up to date.

[virgo062]

I will share this with you....Knothead had seizures since he was a pinky because of a head injury. About, Oh, 6 onths ag I started him on Ensure (pecan flavor) He usually gets just a couple cc's a month what I can get down him and he has been seizure free:crazy

[farrelli]

I'm sorry that you haven't gotten much of a response. Perhaps if you PM Jackie in Tampa? She has a lot of experience with squirrel pharmacology. I know she's on the list today.

[Charley Chuckles]

Please forgive me for not reading through thread, on iPod, however my Little Girl started getting seizures, I was told to rub molasses on her gums, it has worked like a charm, hers can be brought on by loud noises,she will be 2 and she jus started this. Praying for yours:grouphug for the

[CritterMom]

So this little actually IS suffering from cyanide poisoning from ingested cherry pits? I pit and peel pretty much everything but always wondered if this was actually possible or just theoretically possible, and it sounds as though poor Pickles has proved it out. I wonder how frequently this happens in the wild? I do hope you have caught it in time...

[TubeDriver]

This should be a sticky. Sounds like the OP dx this quickly and is doing everything possible to treat the squirrel. Keeping fingers crossed for your squirrel!








Cliffnotes: cyanide poisoning after two weeks exposure to 2-4 cherry pits per day.

[magna]

I have two NR that have had whole cherries since for years, both maloclusions and will spit the seed out in a matter of moments. All indications are pickles was chewing on his pits which is why I think this is possible. the cummulative effect of the toxin would account for the slow onset. The vet is stumped as well due to white blood count being normal and calcium being at the top and glucose being within tolerance just spiked a little.

He appears to have been poisoned, yet the only thing he has had different or access to is the cherries. I grew up and live in the woods and recall 30 years ago seeing many rats poisoned in our barn in the feed room exibit these same symptoms. I am praying he is still hanging in there when I get home this evening. Also hope no irreversible damage has been done. The poisoning theory is strictly my own. Molasses in his mouth has had no effect. I do know cherry pits are toxic in large quantities as are lots of seeds. Hopefully someone on here will have seen this in another and can substantiate my theory. Any de-tox info would be appreciated also. To late for charcoal I am sure. He did urinate during the night so that is a positive sign. Thanks for the prayers, there is nothing God can't accomplish!!!!!!

[Unikorngrrl]

Lurking Magna and hoping all will turn out well!!! :grouphug

[Charley Chuckles]

Again on iPod grrrrrr has anyone suggested charcoal ?

[stepnstone]

So this little actually IS suffering from cyanide poisoning from ingested cherry pits? I pit and peel pretty much everything but always wondered if this was actually possible or just theoretically possible, and it sounds as though poor Pickles has proved it out. I wonder how frequently this happens in the wild? I do hope you have caught it in time...

This has been a question I have pondered a lot about since there is so much they do eat in the wild that we can't safely feed them in captivity. Since the wilds know what and how to eat to balance their own nutritional levels, I also have to think they know what to eat to counter effects from adverse verities they come across in the wild.

[magna]

Update...Pickles is hanging on. Seemed a little more mobile this eve. Last night and this morning he was almost paralyzed and stiff like rigors. Still not moving around but did turn around in his hut. Chatters and fusses at me the whole time I am working with him. At 8pm est I dosed Valium, metacam, baytril. Drank close to 8cc pedialyte with milk thistle from syringe. Took two CC apple sauce. The prayers are working. Not sure how many people are reading this because it is just another seizure caused by MBD most will assume. I wish I knew for sure it was the cherries so nobody else has to go through this. His suffering is ripping my heart out. Keep the good vibes coming!!!!:thankyou

[SammysMom]

The prayers are terrific and milk thistle is awesome!!! :grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

[Anne]

Yes, Apple Seeds and Cherry Pits are Poisonous
By Anne Marie Helmenstine, Ph.D., About.com
In fact, if you eat enough apple seeds or cherry pits, you could die. Apple seeds contain cyanogenic acids. Cherry pits, and seeds from related fruits, including peaches, plums, almonds, pears, and apricots, contain cyanogenic glycosides. Your body can detoxify small quantities of cyanide compounds. If you accidentally eat a cherry pit in a pie or swallow an apple seed or two, you'll be fine. Actually, if you swallow several seeds whole, you would absorb a minimal amount of the toxic compounds. Chewing the seeds makes them much more hazardous to your health. Children and pets are much more likely to suffer poisoning from eating the seeds than adults.
Symptoms of mild poisoning include headache, dizziness, confusion, anxiety, and vomiting. Larger doses can lead to difficulty breathing, increased blood pressure and heart rate, and kidney failure. Reactions can include coma, convulsions, and death from respiratory arrest. There are several treatment options, but the main thing is to limit the absorption of the chemicals from the seeds. Basically, this means it's important to seek immediate medical attention if a child or pet is known to have eaten several seeds. Usually, the plan of action is to pump the stomach or induce vomiting. Antidotes are available, but they are somewhat controversial. If you or someone you know eats a seed or two, don't worry... as I said, your body is well-equipped to detoxify small quantities of cyanide compounds. They naturally occur in several foods. However, if you were wondering whether or not it's true that the seeds and pits are toxic and potentially lethal... yes, apple seeds and cherry pits are poisonous.

[TubeDriver]

Sending positive vibes to you and Pickles! Hang in there little fellow! :grouphug

[Skul]

Not sure how many people are reading this because it is just another seizure caused by MBD most will assume. I wish I knew for sure it was the cherries so nobody else has to go through this. His suffering is ripping my heart out. Keep the good vibes coming!!!!:thankyou
Perhaps many of us have already determined you've discovered the most probable cause.
Don't offer whole cherries. Occum's razor and all. :grin

[magna]

Morning update: Pickles appeared a little more vibrant this morning. He took 2cc of yogurt and 2-3cc of apple juice with milk thistle, a little calcium, and one drop of multivitamin along with his meds. The best sign was his face was clean which meant he was alert enough now to groom himself. He had a bm and urinated during the night, strange how such things excite us :grin He is still not moving around much but is more aware of his enviroment. I haven't seen a seizure in aprox. 24 hrs now. Anne and I spoke at length several times about Pickles and we both think it is toxins, I see she posted about the pits last night, thank you miss Anne!!! I would like to let all of you on here know what a wonderful person Anne Miller is and how caring she is, our heart and thanks go out to her!!! :thankyou

On a happier note we are now eight bunnies short, there are eight happy, free little guys runnin the woods!! :wahoo

[TubeDriver]

Great news about Pickles! Keep getting stronger little fellow. :thumbsup

[Scooterzmom]

Yes, Apple Seeds and Cherry Pits are Poisonous
By Anne Marie Helmenstine, Ph.D., About.com
In fact, if you eat enough apple seeds or cherry pits, you could die. Apple seeds contain cyanogenic acids. Cherry pits, and seeds from related fruits, including peaches, plums, almonds, pears, and apricots, contain cyanogenic glycosides.

Am I reading this correctly? Almonds??? I've been putting lots of almonds in my homemade HHB's and boo-balls. Does this mean my fuzzers might end up with an accumulation of the toxins for having those every day?

I know I may be an overprotective mom but I'm worried now that for wanting to do good by using almonds for the extra calcium I may have cause them harm. :(

[Skul]

Almonds are fine. If they weren't, you wouldn't be able to purchase them at the store.
Or in candy bars, or this or that....

[magna]

All things listed have miniscular amounts. My belief is pickles was eating the pits. Like candy, to much and you get sick. Just got home, he is still with me. He drank aprox 6cc Boost, 2cc apple sauce with a touch of calcium. Allowed a baby wipe bath so long as his eyes were covered. Waiting to see if vet will give me a prescription for HydroXocobalamin. So far no luck. The only movement is darty jerks when he fusses and I am putting him back in his hut. All extremeties have great feeling even the very tip of his tail. Thank you Admin for adding to title. Will try and update this eve.

[TubeDriver]

This type of injury will cause systemic damage (brain, heart , liver etc). I hope damage to the cortex and cerrebellum is minimal. Squirrels do seem to have almost superhuman powers of healing and recovery, someone should look into this.

[Unikorngrrl]

Magna I'm still following and my heart is definitely with you. I don't have any knowlege to add, I'm sending my love though!!! :Love_Icon :Love_Icon :Love_Icon :Love_Icon

[magna]

Update...eightish feeding went well. He was a little squirmy and very fussy, seems to want to be more active. I was impressed with how much he took, 7-8oz applesauce with a touch of calcium, 7-8oz pedialyte and boost mixed, meds and milk thistle. He still only wants to lay on his side but he will crawl into his hut when I put him back. Thank you unikorngirl and all of you for the prayers. I will continue to update as everyone likes.

[SammysMom]

Just remember Pedialyte ONLY for 24 hours. After that there is too much sodium and that is contradictory to continued hydration. You can use sugar water, but truthfully Ensure has more than enough sugar. :grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

[magna]

I am trimming the pedialyte back considerably, hence the boost mix. I know he needed electrolytes and thats what we had on hand. He drank boost and apple juice mix plus an apple sauce and vitamin slurry this morning at 5am before work with his meds. He was wiggly and fussy and actually was up on all four and went back in his hut after feeding. I have the wife watching him for movement, he is in a 40gl aquarium with a heated area and lots of fleece. I got a call from her at 9:15 to say he came out and walked around the aquarium!!!! He was wobbly but I will take it! This is his first walking since the siezures got severe and I took him to the vet. Things are looking up, we have our fingers crossed :wahoo I was wondering if anyone is using or has used actual coconut water as an electrolyte boost???? :Drink Shows very low sodium and light potassium.

[Skul]

I'm not sure on the coconut water(milk?).
For some reason I recall a comment on coconut, and it wasn't advised.
Just a tic in the memory, so I'm not positive.

[CritterMom]

I am trimming the pedialyte back considerably, hence the boost mix. I know he needed electrolytes and thats what we had on hand. He drank boost and apple juice mix plus an apple sauce and vitamin slurry this morning at 5am before work with his meds. He was wiggly and fussy and actually was up on all four and went back in his hut after feeding. I have the wife watching him for movement, he is in a 40gl aquarium with a heated area and lots of fleece. I got a call from her at 9:15 to say he came out and walked around the aquarium!!!! He was wobbly but I will take it! This is his first walking since the siezures got severe and I took him to the vet. Things are looking up, we have our fingers crossed :wahoo I was wondering if anyone is using or has used actual coconut water as an electrolyte boost???? :Drink Shows very low sodium and light potassium.

Send Stosh a PM. I think he gives it to his CR crew?? Maybe?

[Jackie in Tampa]

waiting to see how he is doing?:grouphug

[magna]

Ok, here is his latest news..... penis was out of the sheath, distended and swollen last night, applied sugar poltice and it seemed a little better this morn. Applied triple AB ointment before leaving him this morn. He ate good last night and wobbled around the aquarium twice. This morning he seemed less eager to eat. I did put some dried raisins and cranberries in a croc for him and they had been moved around so I am hoping he ate some. I forgot to count them last night which I would normaly do with babies. Mixed FV and Boost this morning, he took about 6cc of that and about 4cc of apple juice. this afternoon he is getting a bath and I am going to exercise all his legs and joints. He did spread his front legs as I rubbed his chest down with a baby wipe this morning and enjoyed it. I used to scratch him there and he would lean from one side to the other so it's a good sign. I will post again this eve and try and get some pics posted.

[Jackie in Tampa]

fingers crossed for your guy.

[magna]

Ate 6-8cc spinach,kiwi,pear baby food, 6-8cc boost, meds and got bath. Couple cc's water and apple juice. Was having tremors gave Valium to help ease them. He came out twice and wobbled around his aquarium during the day. His swelling has gone down some put trip ab ointmment on after bath. He perked up a little after his bath. Still not able to walk more than a foot or two.

[Anne]

He appears relaxed!
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Just a tad smaller.

[Unikorngrrl]

Ate 6-8cc spinach,kiwi,pear baby food, 6-8cc boost, meds and got bath. Couple cc's water and apple juice. Was having tremors gave Valium to help ease them. He came out twice and wobbled around his aquarium during the day. His swelling has gone down some put trip ab ointmment on after bath. He perked up a little after his bath. Still not able to walk more than a foot or two.

Just an FYI Magna. Warrior's little peenie would do that when he was dehyrated. I would do the same kind of. I would put Neosporin on it and then use a warm, wet rag and just let it lie on his belly over his peenie and it would go back to normal. :dono if that is will, but hope so :thumbsup :grouphug

[magna]

Just drank 5cc yogurt!!!! Was trying to move around some. Held him and rubbed him for 15-20minutes, moving his legs and coaxing him to hold his head up a little. Lord willing we will start over bright and early in the morning. Thanks for the support guys!!!!

[farrelli]

His eyes look like he's with it, and it seems that he's moving forward. Great job and thanks for loving him so much.

[magna]

Latest.... Pickles ate goooood this morning, 7-8cc baby food, 6cc boost, took his meds and was very alert.....no valium. He crawled up my shirt and clung to my collar, then promptly peed all over me......:thumbsup He enjoyed his bath and his awareness was way up this morning. When one of the fawns came over and nuzzled me, he turned to look at him and fussed!!! No tremors for the first time since this started. He still has very jerky movements but moving more. Will try and get some better pics, had my daughter take a couple last night with my phone, but I looked like an alien holding a fuzzy pickle...:rotfl

[Jackie in Tampa]

great news... I missed what meds you are giving...

[Jackie in Tampa]

K2George had bad shakes too...toxins...
he is now released and stopped the shakes after about two weeks of good healthy food and proper care... just thought I would share ...
protect his liver best you can.

[magna]

He is getting baytril, meloxicam, milk thistle, and a small dose of Valium for tremors. No Valium now for probably 24+ hrs. Not listing doses, I would not want someone to duplicate. He took about 12cc danon yogurt drink for his eve meal. Ate pear, kiwi, spinach baby food and apple juice for lunch. Good bm and urine. He is so frail. He cannot use his back legs coordinated so I supported him some and helped him walk around. He pawed at the croc full of water and flipped the stones around. I held some food to see if he would eat. He tried to bite some food but was uncoordinated and couldn't figure it out.
Overall he is looking better. He mostly wants to curl up and sleep which is good.

[magna]

Farrelli, how can I not love the little snot. He has drawn more blood than all the other animals combined over the last two years!!!!:rotfl. I figure he must love me or I taste reeeeeally good cause he keeps trying to eat me....:skwredup. Course I look like a jumbo auce buffet and after his vet visit a large quantity of people now say I'm nuts.:confused: just gotta convince him I,m not one....

[TubeDriver]

I hope Pickles continues to improve! You are doing so much for him!:thankyou

[magna]

Pickles ate ok this morning, he was very active and fussy. He got at least 12cc of boost and his meds and a couple sips of apple juice. He was trying to crawl all over and seemed a little more coordinated. His bm's are good and he urinates a lot. He cannot seem to get his front legs coordinated and working at the same time as his back legs of which he has very limited use. Will post an update this eve. Thanks for the PM's and emails from everyone, I do tell him about them, he is very appreciative and he would write back but his little feets just aren't working quite right!!! Maybe this eve he will feel like typing a note or two.......

[TubeDriver]

Pickles ate ok this morning, he was very active and fussy. He got at least 12cc of boost and his meds and a couple sips of apple juice. He was trying to crawl all over and seemed a little more coordinated. His bm's are good and he urinates a lot. He cannot seem to get his front legs coordinated and working at the same time as his back legs of which he has very limited use. Will post an update this eve. Thanks for the PM's and emails from everyone, I do tell him about them, he is very appreciative and he would write back but his little feets just aren't working quite right!!! Maybe this eve he will feel like typing a note or two.......

The cerebellum is especially susceptible to damage from hypoxia. The limb weakness, tremors, loss of coordination are all symptoms from this type of injury. Pickles has made a lot of progress in the last couple days, so I hope this is a sign that he will have a good recovery! Go Pickles!!! :thumbsup

[magna]

PikPIk ate a good breakfast and was more active this morning. Last night at around eight I gave him a dose of Valium so he would be manageable. He was nippy and fussy and was being a snot about eating. After the tiny dose I let him veg on my chest for an hour or so. He ate good at lunch 12cc baby fruit squeeze and about 8cc of boost. He urinated a lot and when I was getting ready to leave he was outside laying in front of his hut and picked his head up to look at me. he walked with my help today at lunch. Will keep everyone posted.

[SammysMom]

SO glad he is hanging in!!! Good squammy!!!:grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

[Jackie in Tampa]

is he still on metacam/meloxicam?

[magna]

Yup gave scrip for 14 days of Meloxicam and Baytril. I think he would do better on Prednisone possibly but know that the Melox and Pred are contraindicative so not sure how long it would take to clear his system, one week is advisable for a larger animal. Not willing, with the progress he is making, to take a few days to change yet. I will drop a note this eve after feeding to say how he is. Will try and get some new pics.

[Jackie in Tampa]

Yup gave scrip for 14 days of Meloxicam and Baytril. I think he would do better on Prednisone possibly but know that the Melox and Pred are contraindicative so not sure how long it would take to clear his system, one week is advisable for a larger animal. Not willing, with the progress he is making, to take a few days to change yet. I will drop a note this eve after feeding to say how he is. Will try and get some new pics.
that is exactly why I asked... you're reading my mind.
I def would switch...I say that from experience..I have seen such great improvements with the steroid long term therapy in cases where limb reactions are slow to improve.
My current vet as well as many others have always said to wait 24-30 hours between the NSAID and the steroid... I push hydration during this void in treatments.
I do think it will make a difference...
I have found after 5 days on metacam, you have seen the majority of reduction that you will see.... yet with the pred, I continue to see drastic improvements...
Prednisone is not as diffecult as dex in the taper down either... I can always share what I have done in the past..
would love to see your guy ralley!:Love_Icon
so happy he is doing as well as he is..ty

[Charley Chuckles]

Been praying and sending good vibes :grouphug

[magna]

Wife called me about 45 min ago and said Pik was at the croc trying to pick up a raisin or cranberry!!!! He is having a lot of coordination problems like mentally he is fried. Hoping it will improve, it's been a week now. I will wash and groom and care for him as long as he needs me. Will post more later this eve. Thanks Mrs. Jackie for the chat.

[magna]

Ate good last night but refuses anything this morning and is out walking around!!!! Got his Milk Thistle and a little fruit maybe 1-2cc in him.... he drank a lot and tried to eat some. Got one craisin down. Was very agitated at being held and fussed and tried to climb away which made me sooooo happy to see him this energetic. I would like to send a big thanks to Mrs. Gail for the advice on Milk Thistle!!!! Her and her husband are some of the most wonderful people we have ever had he pleasure of meeting.

[Jackie in Tampa]

:banana:banana

[SammysMom]

Milk thistle saved my aunt's cat when the vet wanted to euthanize her. What are you using for a dose? It is fantastic for liver health and it seems like something that is not at all dangerous and could be used almost whenever ABs are given to help protect the organs. I am so glad your guy is getting better! Isn't it funny that we are pleased when they are cranky? :grouphug:Love_Icon:grouphug

[magna]

Latest update....more drastic improvement!! He is eating on his own now since yesterday. Got home last night and he had eatin a whole HHB, a grape, 4 baby rice puffs, most of a tums, and a PITTED cherry!!! He still struggles to hold things even the weight of a grape is to much, so I support his food and he thinks " I got this!!!" Bit me twice yesterday drawing the red life fluid from my hand, which is good because five days ago he was to weak to break the skin. This morning he sounded like an angry chainsaw when I walked by and he saw me. He will let me handle him once he knows it's me and the fear of being attacked has passed. So we are soft and quiet around him. His bites could have been MUCH worse, I think he just wanted me to know he still cares about our relationship....:rotfl So here are a couple pics from last night and the difference is amazing than just a week ago.210897210898210899
You can see from the pics he was able to hold the partial grape but that was about it. Even then he kept dropping it.

[TubeDriver]

I am no squirrel expert but I would think this rapid improvement bodes well for his recovery. You must be very relieved.

[Jackie in Tampa]

beautiful pictures!!!! doing the happy dance... you Rock magna!!!

[Anne]

So glad to see how well he is recovering. You two are diff blood brothers--LOL! Pictures are amazing. Good care, good meds, and a lot of good love, that's what he needed and what he has gotten.:Love_Icon:thumbsup

[magna]

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[magna]

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[Jackie in Tampa]

nothing better than a sleeping baby deer on the sofa and a happy grape eating sq!!
so cute!!!!

[magna]

SHHHHHH!!!! :sleep1 It's not a sofa it's a boulder in the wild.....there are many dangers lurking there... One false move and that towel could jump him!!! :hidechair Not to mention he took off his floral pajama pants!!! :wiggle

[SammysMom]

This thread is a happy tears inducer for sure!!! Great job sticking to it with that sweet guy!:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

[Ellymae]

Magna, so glad to see that Pickles is doing better. Haven't checked TSB lately, so it was good to see that he has improved. Also, thank you for your kind words earlier in the thread. Will keep checking on little Pickles....you know how to reach us if you need anything. :)

[magna]

Thank you Ellymae and he is doing much better this eve. He actually relaxed in my arms this evening and got some lovin.

[magna]

Pickles is about 90% back to normal....CRANKY if you reach in, but fine once I'm holding him. He still wobbles when he sits but he doesn't fall over....most of the time. Some of our other temporary guests were peering in at him this evening and he was telling them what he thought!!! He is eating the HHB again and chewing his hut to shreds. I assume his teeth must be bothering him but I don't want to mess with them. He had perfect teeth prior to being sick but he hasn't been able to grind them on anything do to being so weak. They still look great just a tad long. Anyway, all else is good. Now Pickle's has a thing or two he would like to say :thumbsup

"WHILE I APPRECIATE ALL THE PRAYERS, WHICH MOST LIKELY SAVED ME, AND THE LOVE, COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE TALK TO THIS HIDEOUS THING THAT KEEPS PRODDING AND POKING ME AND HAS THE DRAGON BREATH FROM %^$#.....IN SPITE OF ALL MY EFFORTS TO MAIM AND WOUND THIS THING IT KEEPS COMING BACK AND WAKING ME UP AND SQUIRTING THESE NASTY TASTING THINGS IN MY MOUTH. I WIPE MY FACE ALL OVER IT'S SKIN AND IT STILL DOESN'T GET THE IDEA I DON'T LIKE IT, I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY INTELLIGENT. I DIG MY TALONS INTO IT'S SOFT MOOSHY HIDE AND GROWL TO NO AVAIL, IT MAKES SOFT SISSY NOISES AND THEN FORCES ME AGAINST IT'S BODY WHILE RUBBING ME ALL OVER, AT THIS POINT I JUST PLAY DEAD AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. I AM TRAPPED IN A WORLD OF INVISIBLE WALLS AND I CAN'T GET OUT. PLEASE SEND HELP ASAP!
P.S. I could really use some nuts about now, oh and a slurpy!!!!! COLA NOT CHERRY!!!!

So now everyone knows what I am up against!!! :grin3

[SammysMom]

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[Anne]

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[MollyBear361]

yay Pickles! I am so glad you are feisty enough to type that note about that mean thing doing all those bad things to you! But just gotta tell you three words....Tough Squammy Love! :Love_Icon

[Jackie in Tampa]

maybe time for a small cage...:thumbsup
awesome update... he continues to do better each day, loving this!

[TubeDriver]

Wow squirrels have an amazing talent for healing and for putting up with pesky, lovey humans. :grin3

[magna]

WALLS....CLOSING......IN. FOOD VERY BLAND.....CANNOT BREAK FREE THROUGH STRANGE MESH LIKE SKY. INVISIBLE WALLS HOLDING FIRM...FEAR SORCERY IS BEING USED. ODDLY ENOUGH DESIRE TO WOUND AND MAIM FADING. TRYING TO PUT UP RESISTANCE, SNARL, GROWL, SQUEAL, CHATTER, YET CREATURE SEEMS ABLE TO PLACE IN TRANCE WITH A SIMPLE TOUCH....POSSIBLE HYPNOTIC DRUG INDUCED THROUGH CONTACT SIMILAR TO ANEMONE. STILL WEAK TRIED TO CROSS SKY FOUND MYSELF HANGING BY REAR FEET UNABLE TO DO CRUNCH TO GET HAND HOLD...LANDED ON HEAD POSSIBLE DAIN BRAMAGE LEADING TO AFFECTIONATE FEELING TOWARDS CREATURE....POSSIBLE STOCKHOLM SYNDROME.....:grin

[island rehabber]

WALLS....CLOSING......IN. FOOD VERY BLAND.....CANNOT BREAK FREE THROUGH STRANGE MESH LIKE SKY. INVISIBLE WALLS HOLDING FIRM...FEAR SORCERY IS BEING USED. ODDLY ENOUGH DESIRE TO WOUND AND MAIM FADING. TRYING TO PUT UP RESISTANCE CREATURE SEEMS ABLE TO PLACE IN TRANCE WITH TOUCH....POSSIBLE HIPNOTIC DRUG INDUCED THROUGH CONTACT SIMILAR TO ANEMONE. STILL WEAK TRIED TO CROSS SKY FOUND MYSELF HANGING BY REAR FEET UNABLE TO DO CRUNCH TO GET HAND HOLD...LANDED ON HEAD POSSIBLE DAIN BRAMAGE LEADING TO AFFECTIONATE FEELING TOWARDS CREATURE....POSSIBLE STOCKHOLME SYNDROME

:goodpost:rolf

[Jackie in Tampa]

:grin yay!

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HIDEOUS CREATURE HAS MADE ITSELF ELUSIVE TODAY. NOT HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF AS IT SEEMS TO MOVE AT THE SPEED OF A SLOTH. I NOW AWAKE EACH MORNING TO FIND STRANGE SQUARE CUBES WITH A NUTTY FLAVOR IN MY PRISON. THE HOLLOW STICKS FULL OF THAT VILE SUBSTANCE WHICH IT FORCES ME TO TAKE ARE BECOMING LESS FREQUENT. I FIND MY STRENGTH RETURNING, AS I DEMONSTRATED TODAY WHEN THE CREATURE INTRODUCED A FOREIGN OBJECT INTO MY CELL, WHICH BEGAN COLLECTING ALL MY TREASURES AND FOOD ..... I POUNCED AT ONCE!!!!!.....IN SPITE OF MY SNARLS AND BITES IT KEPT GATHERING ALL MY WELL HIDDEN KEEP SAKES. THEN IT HAPPENED, THE CREATURE STRUCK LIKE A COBRA AND I GOT THE DREADED STICK FULL OF GOO IN MY MOUTH...YUK . I PRETENDED TO BE PLAYFUL AFTERWARDS HOPING TO LURE IT BACK FOR A CHANCE TO BREAK FREE, BUT I HAD THE STRANGEST URGE TO BITE THE LIVING ^&^%$# OUT OF IT, AND DID!!!!:rotfl. THE THING MADE TERRIBLE HOWLING SOUNDS, RECOILED AND THEN SEIZED ME, PUTTING ME IN A TRANCE WITH THE DREADED BELLY RUB. I FEAR IF THERE IS NO HELP SOON I AM DOOMED TO A FEMININE LIFE OF BELLY RUBS AND BABY WIPES. THE MATE TO THE CREATURE HAS SHOWN AN UNCANNY INTEREST IN ME RECENTLY. IT'S SOUNDS ARE SOOTHING. HEAR IT COMES NOW, WHEN IT MAKES NOISES I FIND MYSELF UNABLE TO MAINTAIN A TRAIN OF THoug........... :sleep

[island rehabber]

:jump:jump:Love_Icon Resistance is futile, sweetie.....

[SammysMom]

My goodness you crack me up!

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THINGS NOWHERE IN SIGHT, WAS ABLE TO MAKE WAY TO KEYBOARD. S.O.S...... STILL CONTAINED BY INVISIBLE WALLS AND MESH SKY...FOOD REEEEAAAAALLLLY GOOD NOW, :Drink FUR SUIT GETTING VERY VERY SNUG AROUND MIDDLE. LITTLE TO DO BUT EAT AND SLEEP AND WATCH OUTDOORS. TRYING NEW, MORE DOCILE APPROACH TO CREATURES HOPING FOR MOMENTARY CHANCE TO BREAK OUT. ALLOWING BRIEF ARMAGE AND SNUGGLES, RESISTANCE IS VERY HARD!!!! URGE TO BITE STILL BAD... TRICKED THE DOMINANT ONE INTO LETTING ME CLIMB UP ITS HIDE LATE YESTERDAY FOR BETTER VIEW OF SITUATION. NOT GOOD, MASSIVE STRUCTURE AROUND PRISON. NO WORKOUT EQUIPMENT IN SIGHT. WATCHED PROJECT RUNWAY AND GAME OF THRONES ......WALLS NEED CLEANING!!!! ALL TREASURES TAKEN VERY LATE LAST NIGHT, DURING SHAKEDOWN BY LARGE CREATURE, ATTACKED AND TRIED TO RUN IT OFF TO NO AVAIL. :madd WAS SEIZED AND PUT IN DREADED BELLY RUB HOLD, CANNOT DEFEND AGAINST THIS. I FEAR THE WORST.........

[magna]

Update on Pickles. He is looking good however, he feels like a plastic squirrel when I pick him up. He is very firm all over, otherwise he appears normal. He almost appears muscle bound. Diet is good, eating good, hoping he is just getting reeeeeally fat!!! He moves like a robot though, very deliberate and exagerated at times, other times very fluid like he should be. I think he may have some lasting neurological issues. He just moved back into a wire cage, not very tall yet so we can see how he does. Thanks for all the interest from everyone he really is a cool little guy, I thought we were going to lose him at first but his story says it all!!! Prayers do work!!!!!

[SammysMom]

:Love_Icon:Love_Icon:Love_Icon

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FREEEEEEEDOM!!!!!! TRANSFERED FROM MAXIMUM SECURITY TO GENERAL POPULATION....THEN WITHIN DAYS MOVED TO WORK CAMP. LARGE FACILITY WITH LOTS OF ROOM, EXCELLENT VIEWS...NO AIRCONDITIONING???? FOUND OUT NAME OF CREATURE, ACCORDING TO FOX NEWS ONLY SHERRIF JOE ARPAIO HAS THESE DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS FOR PRISONERS. FOUND DEAD MONKEY HANGING BY NECK, APPARENTLY HUNG HIMSELF FROM DESPAIR IN MY NEW QUARTERS. HE IS VERY SOFT AND FEELS REEEEALLLY GOOD WHEN I WRESTLE WITH HIM, A WALKING DEAD TYPE FRIEND I SUPPOSE ..... KINDA CREEPY!!! POKED A HOLE IN HIM TO VERIFY HE WAS IN FACT DEAD AND HE IS, NOTHING BUT WHITE FLUFFY STUFF INSIDE!!!! TAXIDERMIST DID GOOD JOB. FOOD, JUST OK, IN NEW FACILITY, GETTING STRENGTH BACK. SNUCK IN THROUGH SIDE WINDOW TO ACCESS COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT. SAW NUMEROUS SMALL CLONES OF MYSELF INSIDE OTHER WINDOW ONLY HALF DEVELOPED, TENDED BY CREATURE AND WHAT CAN ONLY BE IT'S MATE. APPARENTLY THIS IS A SCIENTIFIC FACILITY CONDUCTING TWISTED EXPERIMENTS ON :eek

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[SammysMom]

Don't worry, if there are a lot of half developed creatures for that giant pinkie and its mate to tend, you will be able to get back to the tech room. Those half-baked creatures seem to require a whole lot of time and a lot of high-pitched baby talk that I find quite annoying!
Keep the faith!
Your friend...Sammy

[magna]

AAAAHHHH HAAAAAAAA.....BITING URGE SATISFIED!!! LARGE PINKIE AS YOU SAY HAS SUCCUMBED TO MY SPELLS....COMES EVERY DAY WHEN I PACE MY WIRE SHIP AFTER IT'S ARRIVAL AND DEPOSITS FOOD LIKE SUBSTANCE....BELLY RUBS ARE FINALLY UP TO MY STANDARDS AND QUITE SATISFYING..HAVE BEEN DOING MUCH PHYSICAL ACTIVITY NOW WITH ONLY THE OCCASIONAL CASE OF CONFUSION OR MENTAL PROLAPSE.....THINK EXPERIMENTS MAY HAVE LEFT NEUROLOGICAL SHORT CIRCUIT IN CRANIUM....FEEL BAD ABOUT PUNY RANDOM BITES AFTER SEEING PINKIE HAND WOUND JUST INFLICTED BY GINORMOUS TUBBY COUSIN ....HIS SPEED WAS LIKE A COBRA ON CRACK...NEVER HAVE I SEEN ANOTHER OF OUR RODENT BROTHERS MOVE SO FAST WITH SUCH DETERMINATION...LIKE A SUPER NINJA BUDDHA WITH SWORD TEETH!!!!!HE WAS TRYING FOR DEATH AND ONLY GOT LOUD UNPLEASANT NOISES AND A PROFUSE AMOUNT OF RED FLUID THE CREATURES LEAK WHEN PUNCTURED... NOW HAVE MANY RODENT FRIENDS HERE AND THE NUMBER SEEMS TO BE GROWING EVERY DAY....SOME PASS THROUGH AND AFTER A WHILE, AND FEELING BETTER, GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SHIRE AND LIVE THERE.......BEEN THERE AND IT WAS SCARY, CAME HOME...HOME IS ALWAYS GOOD!!!....THE SMALL ONES SEEM TO BE STAYING ON A WHILE...THE LONG WINTER IS COMING I THINK THEY WILL BE HERE WITH ME UNTIL SPRING....HEAR PINKIE TRANSPORT DEVICE APPROACHING MUST GO.....PICKLES OUT